Lions Discipline WR Mike Williams (1 Viewer)

[datonn]

Per the FBGs News Blogger:

Detroit Lions wide receiver Mike Williams was held out of practice during the team's mini-camp activities on Friday in a disciplinary move. "I excused him on a team issue," head coach Rod Marinelli said.

Source: http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...PDATE/606020437

 

[hutchins929]

He Drank the Maple Syrup at breakfast?

 

[Jabroniking]

He Drank the Maple Syrup at breakfast?

Here we go again.Man, being a Lion's fan can make you feel Sometimes, you just can't help but and other times you just want to My God, will it ever end? Will our team ever be normal?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Keep it up Big Mike. The #2 job is all but assured to Scottie Vines now.

 

[datonn]

Here we go again.Man, being a Lion's fan can make you feel Sometimes, you just can't help but and other times you just want to My God, will it ever end? Will our team ever be normal?

Getting rid of Millen will exorcise the demons in Detroit, I think. I felt the "dark cloud" lift over Minnesota after Tice was FINALLY canned....although then they trade Culpepper for cheap and have the whole Fran Foley fiasco, so maybe storm clouds are STILL on the horizon?! At least you haven't had any Love Boat Scandals in Detroit......yet. Tarring and feathering Millen would be an excellent start to continuing some nice momentum from getting Marinelli and Martz to sign on the dotted line.

 

[Couch Potato]

JOIN THE COREY BRADFORD REVOLUTION 55 / 800 / 6

 

[SSOG]

I hear that Martz hates both Rodgers *AND* Mike Williams, and that neither is likely to be among Detroit's top-3 WRs next season. Vines might indeed present a lot of value this upcoming draft.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I hear that Martz hates both Rodgers *AND* Mike Williams, and that neither is likely to be among Detroit's top-3 WRs next season. Vines might indeed present a lot of value this upcoming draft.

Not Vines. Mike Furrey.Furrey is Martz's guy. Another little fast playmaker from the mold of Hakim, Kevin Curtis, etc. I expect he will be the #3 behind Roy and Bradford.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I hear that Martz hates both Rodgers *AND* Mike Williams, and that neither is likely to be among Detroit's top-3 WRs next season. Vines might indeed present a lot of value this upcoming draft.

Not Vines. Mike Furrey.Furrey is Martz's guy. Another little fast playmaker from the mold of Hakim, Kevin Curtis, etc. I expect he will be the #3 behind Roy and Bradford.

Furrey can be #3 while Vines is #2. Although I have serious doubts about Furrey as the #3. He strikes me as that Richie Anderson type guy. A player the coach knows and brings with him to the team to show the new crew what is expected of them. He knows the system, he knows the terminology and probably works his ### off in practice.

 

[diesel7982]

I hear that Martz hates both Rodgers *AND* Mike Williams, and that neither is likely to be among Detroit's top-3 WRs next season. Vines might indeed present a lot of value this upcoming draft.

Not Vines. Mike Furrey.Furrey is Martz's guy. Another little fast playmaker from the mold of Hakim, Kevin Curtis, etc. I expect he will be the #3 behind Roy and Bradford.

Furrey can be #3 while Vines is #2. Although I have serious doubts about Furrey as the #3. He strikes me as that Richie Anderson type guy. A player the coach knows and brings with him to the team to show the new crew what is expected of them. He knows the system, he knows the terminology and probably works his ### off in practice.

No mention of Eddie Drummond, currently working out of the slot and with the 2nd team?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I hear that Martz hates both Rodgers *AND* Mike Williams, and that neither is likely to be among Detroit's top-3 WRs next season. Vines might indeed present a lot of value this upcoming draft.

Not Vines. Mike Furrey.Furrey is Martz's guy. Another little fast playmaker from the mold of Hakim, Kevin Curtis, etc. I expect he will be the #3 behind Roy and Bradford.

Furrey can be #3 while Vines is #2. Although I have serious doubts about Furrey as the #3. He strikes me as that Richie Anderson type guy. A player the coach knows and brings with him to the team to show the new crew what is expected of them. He knows the system, he knows the terminology and probably works his ### off in practice.

No mention of Eddie Drummond, currently working out of the slot and with the 2nd team?

2 career receptions?Let's just say that after Roy Williams, there's a big crap shoot at WR and there's a lot of unknowns. In my mind, I put Vines #2 and Bradford #3 if all this talk about Rogers and Big Mike being on the outs with the new regime.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I hear that Martz hates both Rodgers *AND* Mike Williams, and that neither is likely to be among Detroit's top-3 WRs next season. Vines might indeed present a lot of value this upcoming draft.

Not Vines. Mike Furrey.Furrey is Martz's guy. Another little fast playmaker from the mold of Hakim, Kevin Curtis, etc. I expect he will be the #3 behind Roy and Bradford.

Furrey can be #3 while Vines is #2. Although I have serious doubts about Furrey as the #3. He strikes me as that Richie Anderson type guy. A player the coach knows and brings with him to the team to show the new crew what is expected of them. He knows the system, he knows the terminology and probably works his ### off in practice.

He did play safety last year. And he's got the Arena record. I've got no doubts he's an athlete.

 

[Spartans Rule]

What a weird situation. After Roy, there's 5 guys who could be anywhere from #2 to cut.

 

[Couch Potato]

In my mind, I put Vines #2 and Bradford #3 if all this talk about Rogers and Big Mike being on the outs with the new regine.

Martz has stated that he views Bradford as his WR2.He wants a seasoned vet with speed, capable of handling the Ike Bruce stretch-the-field role, experienced enough to learn his offense, and a good work ethic to set an example for the younger guys. Bradford WILL be the #2, and it's time people start to figure out Martz means what he is saying.

Currently not one staff member has him in their rankings, but that will change as the offseason goes along.

R. Williams will be the Torry Holt. M. Williams will have his time in 2007 once he spends 2006 learning how to be a Martz player. Rogers is history. Book it.

 

[SSOG]

In my mind, I put Vines #2 and Bradford #3 if all this talk about Rogers and Big Mike being on the outs with the new regine.

Martz has stated that he views Bradford as his WR2.He wants a seasoned vet with speed, capable of handling the Ike Bruce stretch-the-field role, experienced enough to learn his offense, and a good work ethic to set an example for the younger guys. Bradford WILL be the #2, and it's time people start to figure out Martz means what he is saying.

Currently not one staff member has him in their rankings, but that will change as the offseason goes along.

R. Williams will be the Torry Holt. M. Williams will have his time in 2007 once he spends 2006 learning how to be a Martz player. Rogers is history. Book it.

I agree, if Martz is really saying that Bradford is the #2 guy, there's a LOT of value right there, since as I said... it's looking like a very good possibility that neither Mike Williams nor Charles Rodgers will be top-3 WRs this year.

 

[ffweasel]

I agree, if Martz is really saying that Bradford is the #2 guy, there's a LOT of value right there, since as I said... it's looking like a very good possibility that neither Mike Williams nor Charles Rogers will be top-3 WRs this year.

Too many WRs right now jockeying for position on the depth chart. The only one I would select on a fantasy team right now would be Roy. That's not to say that Bradford will not have potential as a WR2, but I'd rather avoid wasting a selection unless it was very late in the draft.

 

[Two Deep]

The old BMW cliche "BIG MONEY WASTED"

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I agree, if Martz is really saying that Bradford is the #2 guy, there's a LOT of value right there, since as I said... it's looking like a very good possibility that neither Mike Williams nor Charles Rogers will be top-3 WRs this year.

Too many WRs right now jockeying for position on the depth chart. The only one I would select on a fantasy team right now would be Roy. That's not to say that Bradford will not have potential as a WR2, but I'd rather avoid wasting a selection unless it was very late in the draft.

I had to drop down to selected in 10% of drafts @MFL to even have Bradford appear in the WR ADPs. He ranks as WR89 and Vines is UNL. If things stay that way, you could easily take both in the last rounds to see which pans out.

 

[RenegadeGM]

I'll also add everything I've heard/read locally points to Bradford being the #2 behind Roy.

Up until this incident it appeared BMW would be #3, Vines #4, and that Rogers was going to be on the outs. Not sure if this will change anything.

Drummond is a top return man, but he's never done much as a WR. With his skill running with the football I could see Martz trying to devise ways to get the ball into his hands once or twice a half.

If the price is right Hakim actually might have been a good fit with his knowledge of Martz's offense, although Lions fans might go into convulsions as they have Hakim/Schroeder flashbacks

In the end I think it is Roy/Bradfordwho get the start, and after that who knows?

 

[Frank Black]

Sometimes, when I think back to draft day 2 years ago, I wonder why Mel Kiper was touting Williams as his #1 WR.

 

[coolnerd]

If Bradford is the number 2 WR, your offense is in trouble

signed

Houston Texans

 

[SSOG]

I agree, if Martz is really saying that Bradford is the #2 guy, there's a LOT of value right there, since as I said... it's looking like a very good possibility that neither Mike Williams nor Charles Rogers will be top-3 WRs this year.

Too many WRs right now jockeying for position on the depth chart. The only one I would select on a fantasy team right now would be Roy. That's not to say that Bradford will not have potential as a WR2, but I'd rather avoid wasting a selection unless it was very late in the draft.

Since the overwhelming majority of the time Bradford can be picked up off the street after your fantasy draft, I'd hardly call him a "wasted" selection.

If Bradford is the number 2 WR, your offense is in trouble

signed

Houston Texans

If your QB is getting sacked 60+ times a season, it doesn't matter who your WRs are, your offense is in trouble.signed

Houston Texans

Edit: seriously, blaming Houston's offensive ineffectuality on Bradford is a little bit inane here.

 

[ffweasel]

Since the overwhelming majority of the time Bradford can be picked up off the street after your fantasy draft, I'd hardly call him a "wasted" selection.

It wouldn't be a "selection" if you picked him up after the draft, now would it?

 

[SSOG]

Since the overwhelming majority of the time Bradford can be picked up off the street after your fantasy draft, I'd hardly call him a "wasted" selection.

It wouldn't be a "selection" if you picked him up after the draft, now would it?

Well, even if you did use a "selection", I hardly think it would be wasted. You'd be hard pressed to find a WR6 or WR7 in 12 team drafts with a higher ceiling than Bradford. Or a higher floor, either, for that matter.

 

[coolnerd]

I agree, if Martz is really saying that Bradford is the #2 guy, there's a LOT of value right there, since as I said... it's looking like a very good possibility that neither Mike Williams nor Charles Rogers will be top-3 WRs this year.

Too many WRs right now jockeying for position on the depth chart. The only one I would select on a fantasy team right now would be Roy. That's not to say that Bradford will not have potential as a WR2, but I'd rather avoid wasting a selection unless it was very late in the draft.

Since the overwhelming majority of the time Bradford can be picked up off the street after your fantasy draft, I'd hardly call him a "wasted" selection.

If Bradford is the number 2 WR, your offense is in trouble

signed

Houston Texans

If your QB is getting sacked 60+ times a season, it doesn't matter who your WRs are, your offense is in trouble.signed

Houston Texans

Edit: seriously, blaming Houston's offensive ineffectuality on Bradford is a little bit inane here.

My tongue was in my cheek a little bit, but having watched Bradford 4 for years, he is an average overall talent. He has great straighline speed and will have two or three really nice games because of it. His hands are average at best and he does not run sharp routes. He will produce more in Detriot as much due to the nature of the offense if he continues to be the number 2 or at least the speed guy, not because he is a talent waiting for the proper opportunity. Is he worth drafting really late or picking up on a waiver wire? Yes. Is he going to be the veteran break out WR for 2006? I doubt it.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I agree, if Martz is really saying that Bradford is the #2 guy, there's a LOT of value right there, since as I said... it's looking like a very good possibility that neither Mike Williams nor Charles Rogers will be top-3 WRs this year.

Too many WRs right now jockeying for position on the depth chart. The only one I would select on a fantasy team right now would be Roy. That's not to say that Bradford will not have potential as a WR2, but I'd rather avoid wasting a selection unless it was very late in the draft.

Since the overwhelming majority of the time Bradford can be picked up off the street after your fantasy draft, I'd hardly call him a "wasted" selection.

If Bradford is the number 2 WR, your offense is in trouble

signed

Houston Texans

If your QB is getting sacked 60+ times a season, it doesn't matter who your WRs are, your offense is in trouble.signed

Houston Texans

Edit: seriously, blaming Houston's offensive ineffectuality on Bradford is a little bit inane here.

My tongue was in my cheek a little bit, but having watched Bradford 4 for years, he is an average overall talent. He has great straighline speed and will have two or three really nice games because of it. His hands are average at best and he does not run sharp routes. He will produce more in Detriot as much due to the nature of the offense if he continues to be the number 2 or at least the speed guy, not because he is a talent waiting for the proper opportunity. Is he worth drafting really late or picking up on a waiver wire? Yes. Is he going to be the veteran break out WR for 2006? I doubt it.

This sounds like a fair assessment and I think that's all that's really being said.Anyone who thinks Bradford can be a star, break 1000 yards, be a WR1 or WR2 is nuts. But a projection along the lines of 50/800/6 is not beyond reason, and for a guy who's on nobody's radar right now, who no one on the FBG staff has ranked in their top 60, that's pretty good.

 

[Couch Potato]

Anyone who thinks Bradford can be a star, break 1000 yards, be a WR1 or WR2 is nuts. But a projection along the lines of 50/800/6 is not beyond reason, and for a guy who's on nobody's radar right now, who no one on the FBG staff has ranked in their top 60, that's pretty good.

It seems we're still not getting much across to the staff though. The last 4 staff WR ranking updates still don't have pass-happy-Martz' starting WR Bradford listed, but all 4 have "I'm gonna sit out the season" 3rd stringer Ashley Lelie in their top 60. Go figure.

 

[Will]

Anyone know what Williams did to get sent home?

And was he sent home for the entire minicamp or just the day?