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Live Draft Gone Bad (2 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Without any comment on the team itself, how do you expect to sell this team? Who would buy into a $350 redraft league and not want to draft the team? Now when you factor in that they are behind the 8-ball to some extent with potentially no real RBs (not to mention the commissioner is a giant jerk), it seems like a very limited market.Anarchy99 said:
Steeler
Footballguy
Pipes
Footballguy
Agree with this though commit to play next year, don't pay and don't show up at the draft. If things start to go south this year find 1 or 2 of your son's friends that he likes the most and make favorable trades to those teams. Preferrably strong teams that will take down the commish.
TheDemon
Footballguy
Lionsfan011
Footballguy
Play out this year and do the best you can with it. That $350 is a sunk cost. Don't complain or be sore much during the season...your revenge comes next year. In the off-season, agree to play next year but inform the league/commish you'll pay after the 2020 draft due to what happened this year. Show up (or not) to the draft and be sure to set your picks to auto draft with nothing but kickers and defenses for the top 20 slots on your list. Bail from the draft once it begins. Never contact them again. Best of luck to the commish next year trying to sell a team full of kickers and defenses to someone for $350.
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Shockingly, no takers on someone buying the team. My son made some free agent moves, which makes the current (full) roster . . .
QB - Patrick Mahomes
QB - Russell Wilson
RB - Melvin Gordon
RB - Darrell Henderson
RB - Malcolm Brown
RB - Cameron Artis-Payne
RB - Devontae Booker
RB - Ty Montgomery
WR - DeAndre Hopkins
WR - Odell Beckham
WR - Mike Evans
WR - Devin Funchess
TE - Eric Ebron
TE - Austin Hooper
PK - Greg Zuerlein
DEF - Chicago Bears
DEF - Minnesota Vikings
I looked at the waiver wire and the pickings at RB are slim. The only other RB potentially worth anything would be Jay Ajayi, who as an NFL free agent could potentially end up in a good spot if a team had a RB go down in the preseason. I am thinking we are better off trying to find a guy in an ok situation as a 3rd down / COP back to use as a second RB. IMO, not worth giving up the scoring advantage at other spots just to cave and get another RB when other teams won't offer full value anyway.
QB - Patrick Mahomes
QB - Russell Wilson
RB - Melvin Gordon
RB - Darrell Henderson
RB - Malcolm Brown
RB - Cameron Artis-Payne
RB - Devontae Booker
RB - Ty Montgomery
WR - DeAndre Hopkins
WR - Odell Beckham
WR - Mike Evans
WR - Devin Funchess
TE - Eric Ebron
TE - Austin Hooper
PK - Greg Zuerlein
DEF - Chicago Bears
DEF - Minnesota Vikings
I looked at the waiver wire and the pickings at RB are slim. The only other RB potentially worth anything would be Jay Ajayi, who as an NFL free agent could potentially end up in a good spot if a team had a RB go down in the preseason. I am thinking we are better off trying to find a guy in an ok situation as a 3rd down / COP back to use as a second RB. IMO, not worth giving up the scoring advantage at other spots just to cave and get another RB when other teams won't offer full value anyway.
Love the idea. Only thing I’d change is draft nothing but RBs. Just a full roster of RBs
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Wilson isn't going to get a lot of love. Unless we are willing to part with Mahomes, I doubt Wilson would bring back much. At least not at this point. For example, Cousins is on the waiver wire for free. You wouldn't even need to burn a waiver claim to add him.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I looked at the roster and he already had 4 legit RBs. Kept two and then drafted two. The rest of his roster is pretty stacked. Highly unlikely he would want two guys taking up roster spots when in reality his other backs are capable.
I looked at the rosters in general. There are 3-4 good teams and then a bunch of much weaker ones. So we aren’t that bad off.
Mad far as out roster goes, we either have top performers or trash, which will make for trouble when trying to trade.
Devil_Dog
Footballguy
WOW...just read all 4 pages of this ####show....the commish is a complete ##### (as mentioned several times), why don't you out him? Like post his contact info? Also it will warn other potential owners to steer clear of him (my guess is if he's in a $350 league he is probably in quite a few leagues like most of us).
I do agree with the majority that your team is actually pretty good (RB aside), not sure of the payouts but I think even without improvements you can probably make the playoffs and if you have Mahones with that WR corp in the playoffs anything can happen.
I do agree with the majority that your team is actually pretty good (RB aside), not sure of the payouts but I think even without improvements you can probably make the playoffs and if you have Mahones with that WR corp in the playoffs anything can happen.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Man, this league blows. I agree with whoever said upthread that this league sounds like BS. Putting a $350 per team league on NFL.com...as a person who played FF many years on all kinds of platforms, I can't imagine the thought process that would lead someone to do that. Nuts.
Anyway, it sounds like you're making the best of it. The $350 is gone for now and I suspect you're in other leagues, so just have fun and hope to catch a few breaks here and there.
ETA: Oh, yeah, if you lose...
Anyway, it sounds like you're making the best of it. The $350 is gone for now and I suspect you're in other leagues, so just have fun and hope to catch a few breaks here and there.
ETA: Oh, yeah, if you lose...
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JamieMurphy
Footballguy
Really, you're one waiver wire pick up from having a really solid team. Not only that, the fantasy football gods frown on people pulling crap like that. You may have some fantasy karma coming your way.
Watch the preseason games, see if any unknown players start showing promise, and if an injury to the starter happens, pounce.
Watch the preseason games, see if any unknown players start showing promise, and if an injury to the starter happens, pounce.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
As has been said other places, doing well seems to be your best course of revenge.
And then saying you'll pay after the draft next season, setting your team to auto draft a bunch of scrubs, and never contacting these losers again.
Firesale! By now, you must know the waiver wire order, right? As you said, the commish will veto your lopsided trades (i.e. trading Mahomes for a kicker), but he can't stop you from dropping a player. I guarantee the person with waiver pick #1 will pay you a decent amount to drop a player of his choice. Simply repeat this process and you may end up with a little loot.
Another option, and I am being honest here - have you considered calling Judge Judy? This sounds like a fun case to be heard on TV, and maybe the producers of the show would feel the same. It's basically a form of computer fraud, but with a fantasy football flavor. I know I would be glued to the TV during a case like this.
Let's face it - unless Gordon shows in the next weeks, or Gurley goes down early, you have no hope of winning. Playing the season out will do nothing except piss you off. Do not give in and trade away Mahomes, Hopkins, OBJ, and Evans for subpar RB's, in hopes of winning.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Zero rb has been a draft strategy for years now. His team is set at qb/wr/k/Def and pretty solid at te. If he's right that there's only 3-4 strong teams in the league one or two lucky waiver pick ups is the difference between being a top team and fighting for a playoff spot.TheWinz said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yes, but zero RB strategy doesn't literally mean no RB's. It means waiting stocking up elsewhere, while still grabbing some high upside guys. Plus, his league is not PPR, so his stud WR's are losing massive points vs the RB's. As an example - in non-PPR Keenan Allen finished equal to Jordan Howard, but in PPR, Keenan beat him by 80 points.
I know you are trying to find the silver lining, but there is none - YOU GOT SCREWED. Before you offer or accept any trades, you need to figure out if you want to play it out, or sabotage the league. Either way, there are many in this thread who want to help you. Keep us posted on what you decide.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Not going to sabotage a league with people my kid knows. Maybe if it were a bunch of random internet jamokes. Besides, there's no great way to do it anyway. Even if we tried to "sell" the handful of top players we have, there is no way to get them all on the same team.
It's a long season. Injuries happen. Owners drop players that they shouldn't. Sometimes people will make dumb trades. Probably won't win, but might as well go down swinging.
Alrighty then!!! Now we can all cease with the sabotage ideas and offer real advice. If you get time, it would be nice for you to list all RB's that are rostered. With all the eyes on this thread, you may be missing a diamond in the rough.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
joffer
Footballguy
yellowdog
Footballguy
My thought as well. Maybe Mahomes and Ebron for Jameis or another decent QB2 and a top RB?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Here are the main guys that are not rostered. Basically, the Top 60 RBs are already gone.
Code:
Gus Edwards BAL
Damarea Crockett HOU
Corey Clement PHI
Alfred Blue JAC
Doug Martin OAK
Rex Burkhead NE
C.J. Prosise SEA
Kyle Juszczyk SF
Wayne Gallman NYG
Darius Jackson DAL
Andre Ellington TB
Zach Zenner DET
Alfred Morris DAL
Jordan Scarlett CAR
Dwayne Washington NO
Theo Riddick DEN
Dontrell Hilliard CLE
Devontae Booker DEN
Jordan Wilkins IND
Darren Sproles PHI
T.J. Yeldon BUF
Mike Boone MIN
Dexter Williams GB
Benny Snell PIT
Kenneth Dixon BAL
Elijah McGuire NYJ
Trayveon Williams CIN
Myles Gaskin MIA
Spencer Ware IND
Raheem Mostert SF
Kenjon Barner ATL
Patrick DiMarco BUF
Alex Armah CAR
Brandon Bolden NE
Paul Perkins NYG
Rod Smith NYG
James Develin NE
Darrel Williams KC
Jamize Olawale DAL
Wendall Smallwood ATL
Josh Adams PHI
Jacquizz Rodgers NO
Bilal Powell NYJ
Kenneth Dixon BAL
Trenton Cannon NYJ
Jeff Wilson SF
James Develin NE
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
It’s worth a shot but I doubt it would get much traction. People at this stage just off the draft look more where players were drafted. Mahomes was a 4th round pick and Enbron was a 5th rounder. Most owners waited on QB
We would likely only get a RB3 and an average player back in return for those two. The teams that could stand a QB upgrade are the teams weak at RB.
I can look into what options the Luck owner has available. Like I mentioned earlier, Cousins is on the waiver wire. May be worth dumping a RB to pick him up in the hopes of trading Mahomes.
That being said, not sure it is worth it overall. Depends on what we get back and which team we trade him to.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Already dropped Booker for Ajayi. He’s a free agent, and if someone gets hurt before the season starts, I think he could end up in a good situation.
Basically using math on this one. For guys on an NFL roster, their path to getting more touches is an injury on their team. Ajayi’s path to a role somewhere is an injury on any team. IMO, 32 chances for injury is better odds than an injury on one specific team.
Not adverse to picking up Edwards though.
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wgoldsph
Footballguy
I think ajayi is out of the NFL for good. He never really got over his knee problems from college and I don't know if a team will be willing to pay the vet minimum for him when they can grab a cheap rookie to handle the load. Hell, even a broken down Alf Morris is getting run before Ajayi.
That also leaves out someone like gio Bernard, who can probably be gotten for a late pick if a team with superbowl asperations loses their starter.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Like anything else, we will have to wait and see. Ajayi tore his ACL in October and just got cleared to play a couple of weeks ago. In 11 games with the Eagles, he had a 5.1 ypc. To me, that doesn't really sound like a guy that is done. It depends how much he thinks he is worth and what shape he is in. No matter who we roster at this point needs help to be fantasy worthy.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
The eagles also refused to give him the majority of the carries, instead handing the ball the guys like Smallwood and clement (who both may get cut) and Blount (who's out of the league himself). They're not a team to trust with rbs.
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Even so, he was on pace for 200+ touches last year. That's substantially more than anyone else currently on my roster or available on the waiver wire. Even if he ends up somewhere in a timeshare and gets 10 touches a game, that's still better than anything else I can insert into my line up at the moment.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Commish should have let you pick over the phone in a money league. To make up for it, at least they should give you #1 waiver priority to start out. Maybe even for the first 2 or 3 weeks.
Anyway, the best revenge is to win. And winning can be achieved with a waiver wire team, I've seen it happen before. So ride it out and do the best you can. The actual amount of money is somewhat irrelevant. $50 is a lot for some people, while $500 is pocket change for others. Whatever a person decides to spend on fantasy football they should be comfortable losing anyway.
Anyway, the best revenge is to win. And winning can be achieved with a waiver wire team, I've seen it happen before. So ride it out and do the best you can. The actual amount of money is somewhat irrelevant. $50 is a lot for some people, while $500 is pocket change for others. Whatever a person decides to spend on fantasy football they should be comfortable losing anyway.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
It's terrible but that's also the risk playing on sites with bad software and not testing things before you draft.
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