Live postseason game thread (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

Definitely dirty.

And how can they call him safe in replay of he never touched the base. Also i thought the neighborhood play wasnt reviewable. Am i remembering incorrectly?

 

[larch]

Definitely dirty.

And how can they call him safe in replay of he never touched the base. Also i thought the neighborhood play wasnt reviewable. Am i remembering incorrectly?

http://m.mlb.com/official_rules/replay_review

V.D.1.: Notwithstanding the foregoing, the following calls will not be subject to review:

The Umpire's judgment that a runner is clearly out on a force play at second base under circumstances in which the defensive player may or may not have touched second base in his attempt to complete a double play and avoid a collision with the runner. All other elements of the call shall be subject to review, including whether the fielder caught the ball, had control of the ball, was drawn off the bag, or tagged the runner. In this regard, a determination as to whether the fielder made a catch before dropping the ball while in the act of making a throw following the catch shall be reviewable.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Changed the whole series there and Tejada gone with fractured fibula. Imo, this is not what the game's about or how it should be played.

Agreed. A lot of people will say, "That's just baseball," but that is the problem. This meathead approach to playing, where you can just take out a guy and break his leg, is freaking lame.

So what do you propose banning sliding? Have two different bags? No more breaking up double plays?

Rule 6.05 states that that particular slide is illegal and against the rules.

 

[shadyridr]

Definitely dirty.

And how can they call him safe in replay of he never touched the base. Also i thought the neighborhood play wasnt reviewable. Am i remembering incorrectly?

http://m.mlb.com/official_rules/replay_reviewV.D.1.: Notwithstanding the foregoing, the following calls will not be subject to review:

The Umpire's judgment that a runner is clearly out on a force play at second base under circumstances in which the defensive player may or may not have touched second base in his attempt to complete a double play and avoid a collision with the runner. All other elements of the call shall be subject to review, including whether the fielder caught the ball, had control of the ball, was drawn off the bag, or tagged the runner. In this regard, a determination as to whether the fielder made a catch before dropping the ball while in the act of making a throw following the catch shall be reviewable.

seems like according to this they shouldn't have even reviewed the play.

 

[ffldrew]

Definitely dirty.

And how can they call him safe in replay of he never touched the base. Also i thought the neighborhood play wasnt reviewable. Am i remembering incorrectly?

http://m.mlb.com/official_rules/replay_reviewV.D.1.: Notwithstanding the foregoing, the following calls will not be subject to review:

The Umpire's judgment that a runner is clearly out on a force play at second base under circumstances in which the defensive player may or may not have touched second base in his attempt to complete a double play and avoid a collision with the runner. All other elements of the call shall be subject to review, including whether the fielder caught the ball, had control of the ball, was drawn off the bag, or tagged the runner. In this regard, a determination as to whether the fielder made a catch before dropping the ball while in the act of making a throw following the catch shall be reviewable.

seems like according to this they shouldn't have even reviewed the play.

Some mystery person in NY decided to look at this under the drawn off the bag by an errant toss. The throw didn't look that wild from my perspective it was a DP try and all parts of that are hurried and sped up. This rule is a hot mess.

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah torre said it wasn't a neighborhood play. Makes no sense

 

[ffldrew]

In the end what's to stop someone from just driving thru the pivot player like an LB

 

[cosjobs]

The Utley suspension is horse####. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because they're trying to cover their ### for blowing the call at the moment that may have handed the series to the Dodgers. He should have been thrown out of the game immediately after it happened and there should have been no review and subsequent realtime decisions enhancing the ill-gotten Dodger advantage.This kind of thing only tarnishes more the declining perception of MLB when their popularity is already on the skids.

Stupid MLB. Why do you make it so hard to love you?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The Utley suspension is horseshit. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because they're trying to cover their ### for blowing the call at the moment that may have handed the series to the Dodgers. He should have been thrown out of the game immediately after it happened and there should have been no review and subsequent realtime decisions enhancing the ill-gotten Dodger advantage.This kind of thing only tarnishes more the declining perception of MLB when their popularity is already on the skids.

Stupid MLB. Why do you make it so hard to love you?

I think they're implicitly admitting they ####ed up the call, but they can't go back and start the game over from that point, can they. Or put Tejada's leg back together.

 

[cosjobs]

The Utley suspension is horseshit. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because they're trying to cover their ### for blowing the call at the moment that may have handed the series to the Dodgers. He should have been thrown out of the game immediately after it happened and there should have been no review and subsequent realtime decisions enhancing the ill-gotten Dodger advantage.This kind of thing only tarnishes more the declining perception of MLB when their popularity is already on the skids.

Stupid MLB. Why do you make it so hard to love you?

I think they're implicitly admitting they ####ed up the call, but they can't go back and start the game over from that point, can they. Or put Tejada's leg back together.

I agree, but just really frustrated about post-incident actions when completely blown in the moment. Its like we didn't know we were stupid until you pointed it out. That shows me you know how to PR when called out, but you're still stupid.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The Utley suspension is horseshit. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because they're trying to cover their ### for blowing the call at the moment that may have handed the series to the Dodgers. He should have been thrown out of the game immediately after it happened and there should have been no review and subsequent realtime decisions enhancing the ill-gotten Dodger advantage.This kind of thing only tarnishes more the declining perception of MLB when their popularity is already on the skids.

Stupid MLB. Why do you make it so hard to love you?

I think they're implicitly admitting they ####ed up the call, but they can't go back and start the game over from that point, can they. Or put Tejada's leg back together.

There ARE circumstances where games can be ordered to be replayed from a certain spot, aren't there? I don't think it's happened very many times, but I thought there was some mechanism for that.

Seems like that would earn MLB a whole lot more credibility than taking a total half measure and blaming the player while admitting no mistake on their end.

 

[cosjobs]

The Utley suspension is horseshit. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because they're trying to cover their ### for blowing the call at the moment that may have handed the series to the Dodgers. He should have been thrown out of the game immediately after it happened and there should have been no review and subsequent realtime decisions enhancing the ill-gotten Dodger advantage.This kind of thing only tarnishes more the declining perception of MLB when their popularity is already on the skids.

Stupid MLB. Why do you make it so hard to love you?

I think they're implicitly admitting they ####ed up the call, but they can't go back and start the game over from that point, can they. Or put Tejada's leg back together.

There ARE circumstances where games can be ordered to be replayed from a certain spot, aren't there? I don't think it's happened very many times, but I thought there was some mechanism for that.

Seems like that would earn MLB a whole lot more credibility than taking a total half measure and blaming the player while admitting no mistake on their end.

I'd love to see them do this. But then again, I'm a fan of cluster####s and anarchy

 

[Northern Voice]

Homeplate ump sucks. Tulo got screwed first out of the 14th.

Don't think they could overturn the Odor play, BTW. No evidence his foot actually came off the bag and didn't just slide down the side...

Not a fan of replay being used to see if a guy came off the bag for a millisecond, obviously since you can, managers kind of have to try but a bit dumb IMO.

 

[Billy Bats]

Someone tell me why stealing third base with two outs makes any sense whatsoever? Especially with a guy on 2nd that will score walking on a single.

For the off chance that there's a wild pitch? Totally not worth losing that opportunity.

 

[cosjobs]

Nice game by McCullers. I'd loved to see him go another inning. Our bullpen scares the snot out of me

 

[Peyton Marino]

Someone tell me why stealing third base with two outs makes any sense whatsoever? Especially with a guy on 2nd that will score walking on a single.

For the off chance that there's a wild pitch? Totally not worth losing that opportunity.

yea i had the same thought.

 

[pantagrapher]

Someone tell me why stealing third base with two outs makes any sense whatsoever? Especially with a guy on 2nd that will score walking on a single.

For the off chance that there's a wild pitch? Totally not worth losing that opportunity.

Baseball twitter going nuts at the injustice of guys being called out for losing contact with a stolen base for a split second. I agree it's a cheap way to get an out. Some allowance should be made for the physics of a guy's foot hitting a bag and bouncing off momentarily.

 

[pantagrapher]

Yeah torre said it wasn't a neighborhood play. Makes no sense

Joe Sheehan agreed that it wasn't a neighborhood play. Can't remember his explanation but I trust him on that.

 

[tjnc09]

Correa is a stud

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Yost wait.

 

[Peyton Marino]

basically all on terrence gore tbh

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I am enjoying this.

 

[Billy Bats]

Someone tell me why stealing third base with two outs makes any sense whatsoever? Especially with a guy on 2nd that will score walking on a single.

For the off chance that there's a wild pitch? Totally not worth losing that opportunity.

Baseball twitter going nuts at the injustice of guys being called out for losing contact with a stolen base for a split second. I agree it's a cheap way to get an out. Some allowance should be made for the physics of a guy's foot hitting a bag and bouncing off momentarily.

Nah, stay on the bag and you're safe. OR, don't risk any of it by stealing third with two out with a burner on 2nd.

 

[pantagrapher]

This game is not over.

 

[larch]

The only questionable thing was that he slid later than one should. He still was able to attempt to hit the base.

The bad call was that they allowed the review after he went off the field. He should not have been given the base after leaving the field.

 

[Billy Bats]

 

[pantagrapher]

Are you kidding me?

 

[Eminence]

That's a crazy turn of events. Kind of comebacks that champions make.

 

[coolnerd]

This game is not over.

I know

 

[coolnerd]

right now i would just settle for an out.

 

[tjnc09]

That's a crazy turn of events. Kind of comebacks that champions make.

Yeah, exactly like last year when they came back against Oakland down 7-3 :roll:

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I am enjoying this.

Also enjoying this!

 

[pantagrapher]

Before this half inning, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tweeted congratulations to the Astros on advancing to the ALCS.

 

[cosjobs]

Before this half inning, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tweeted congratulations to the Astros on advancing to the ALCS.

he was an idiot long, long before that.

 

[Michael Brown]

The Utley suspension is horse####. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because they're trying to cover their ### for blowing the call at the moment that may have handed the series to the Dodgers. He should have been thrown out of the game immediately after it happened and there should have been no review and subsequent realtime decisions enhancing the ill-gotten Dodger advantage.This kind of thing only tarnishes more the declining perception of MLB when their popularity is already on the skids.

Stupid MLB. Why do you make it so hard to love you?

Please don't circumvent the language filter

 

[whoknew]

Why would the Jays bring Price into a 7-1 game?

 

[ffldrew]

Peralta just not making me feel good. He's been struggling in post season with RISP butyou gotta move the runner if nothing else is coming off your bat

 

[shady inc]

Bryant not trust himself to throw home? He had holiday by 5 steps

 

[ffldrew]

Wacha couldn't get ball to stay down or drop off tonight. Uphill battle now.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The St. Louis Cardinals: Making stud pitchers look bad in the playoff since before I was born.

Still need to overcome Wacha's bad performance and Matheny's bonehead managing.

 

[ffldrew]

I didn't think we would get into their bullpen for this long tonight

 

[ffldrew]

That backfired

 

[Capella]

Marlins man must've had to pony up for those seats

 

[Annyong]

Entertaining so far

 

[Limp Ditka]

Marlins man must've had to pony up for those seats

And has spent about 3/4 of his time, at least while on TV, staring into his phone.

 

[Eephus]

Dolf Luque is pronounced LOO-kay

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Marlins man must've had to pony up for those seats

And has spent about 3/4 of his time, at least while on TV, staring into his phone.

Gotta check your numbers.

There was a dude during G1 of Doyers/Mets who was just engrossed in his phone during a crucial AB in the 9th. Completely engrossed. We've all just gotta decide to throw our phones in the nearest lake and move on with our lives.

 

[culdeus]

Marlins man must've had to pony up for those seats

And has spent about 3/4 of his time, at least while on TV, staring into his phone.

That's his standard behavior.

 

[cosjobs]

Why would the Jays bring Price into a 7-1 game?

The Astros should have brought Mchugh into a 6-2 game

 

[Peyton Marino]

puiiiiiiiiig