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LJ meet Pine, Pine meet LJ. (1 Viewer)

BigTex

Don't mess with Texas
Chicago gave LT fits for most of the game. Surely he passed for a TD, ran in a TD but he's LT with only the best TE in all of football a stout defense to say the least and better than avg QB.

LJ has none of this. I know some will point out Gonzo, but who's throwing him the ball.

Boys beware.

Tex

P.S.

I never thought that sitting a "must start" rb would ever come to mind. But this is clearly an illustration that "Always start your stud" is conditional.

 
I'm actually going to enjoy watching Chicago destroy the Herminator's 'offense' this week.
This game could get ugly very fast even if Chicago plays 1/2 as good as they played last week. Expect 9 in the box all day long with a relentless push on the O-line.
 
I agree this has mis-match written all over it but don't forget about Grossman. He can be awful at times and his mistakes may keep KC in the game longer than one would expect. Still CHI has to win this game, what would Bears fans say at 0-2 to start the season? It just doesn't seem possible, right?

 
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The only good thing with Benson, Grossman and Peterson the Chiefs may get a turnover or two deep in Bear territory.

 
The only thing that should give LJ owners hope is that a power running game is probably one of the better ways to attack the Bears. Of course that depends on the KC line being able to get a push up front, but I don't think its hopeless.

For the optomistic LJ owners, you can hope that he trucks Ulracher and the Bears like Bettis did a couple of seasons ago.

 
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LJ owners will have to be talked down off ledges pretty soon. Chicago this week, then: Minnesota, San Diego, Jacksonville.

Is it possible the Chiefs won't score a touchdown until week 6 vs. the Bengals?

 
I agree this has mis-match written all over it but don't forget about Grossman. He can be awful at times and his mistakes may keep KC in the game longer than one would expect. Still CHI has to win this game, what would Bears fans say at 0-2 to start the season? It just doesn't seem possible, right?
Grossman is KC's only chance to win the game but he would have to be spectacular.
 
LJ owners will have to be talked down off ledges pretty soon. Chicago this week, then: Minnesota, San Diego, Jacksonville. Is it possible the Chiefs won't score a touchdown until week 6 vs. the Bengals?
that is a BRUTAL rush schedule to start the season. Their "cake" game was last week.
 
LJ owners will have to be talked down off ledges pretty soon. Chicago this week, then: Minnesota, San Diego, Jacksonville. Is it possible the Chiefs won't score a touchdown until week 6 vs. the Bengals?
TEN ran for 280 vs JAX so I'd have to take them off this list.
 
I agree this has mis-match written all over it but don't forget about Grossman. He can be awful at times and his mistakes may keep KC in the game longer than one would expect. Still CHI has to win this game, what would Bears fans say at 0-2 to start the season? It just doesn't seem possible, right?
Benson had one fumble all of last year...Just because he fumbled against SD, I wouldn't rely on it happening again to keep KC in the game.
 
If the Bears offense craps the bed once again, in turn getting killed in the time of possesion game, the defense could be worn out come the fourth quarter(see SD/CHI). As good as the Bears are on defense, they are missing two starters, and I don't think benching Larry Johnson is a great move...

 
LJ owners will have to be talked down off ledges pretty soon. Chicago this week, then: Minnesota, San Diego, Jacksonville.

Is it possible the Chiefs won't score a touchdown until week 6 vs. the Bengals?
that is a BRUTAL rush schedule to start the season. Their "cake" game was last week.
The only saving grace for LJ is that after that point in the schedule, it gets pretty good:D rank against the run last year:

21

28

BYE

15

26

32

28

10

Playoffs:

26

29

25

Honestly, with that schedule, a saavy ffballer might TARGET LJ after week 5 or after the BYE.

 
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If the Bears offense craps the bed once again, in turn getting killed in the time of possesion game, the defense could be worn out come the fourth quarter(see SD/CHI). As good as the Bears are on defense, they are missing two starters, and I don't think benching Larry Johnson is a great move...
As a Bears fan, we always seem somewhat susceptible to the RB pass out of the backfield (if to anything). We also lost Mike Brown (S) and Dvoracek (DT) this past week, so you simply won't see us quite at the level of the SD game. Mike Brown is HUGE for the Bears (see first half of last year).
 
LJ owners got this guy in or near the first half of round 1.

If you can't start him every single game, you should not have drafted him in the first place.

 
Steel Dillo said:
The only thing that should give LJ owners hope is that a power running game is probably one of the better ways to attack the Bears. Of course that depends on the KC line being able to get a push up front, but I don't think its hopeless.For the optomistic LJ owners, you can hope that he trucks Ulracher and the Bears like Bettis did a couple of seasons ago.
:goodposting: Contrary to popular opinion, the Bears run DEF is merely above average - certainly not a DEF to sit your studs against. Having said that, LJ gets a downgrade from me just becasue of the pathetic state of the offense in KC.
 
The Bears lost their #1 run stuffing DT. I also think that LJ is more of a threat in the passing game than people give him credit for. I don't see him putting up huge numbers, but you can be pretty certain that the Chiefs will run the ball a ton in the early parts of the game and should have moderate success. I see him with about 70 yards rushing. If KC scores a TD, it will almost certainly be LJ. That's where the line between a decent week and a subpar week will shake out.

 
LJ owners got this guy in or near the first half of round 1. If you can't start him every single game, you should not have drafted him in the first place.
Keeper league is my excuse. The other is that his later schedule helps me relax (see my post above). He has a great playoff schedule and after week 5, a favorable schedule overall.In my league, 8 teams make the playoffs. I'm not worried making them, which is why I could care less about who some of my studs face in the first few weeks. That's just my strategy on it...
 
LJ owners got this guy in or near the first half of round 1. If you can't start him every single game, you should not have drafted him in the first place.
I got LJ at 6 this year and I wasn't going to pass on him because I might sit him against the Bears.Starting Portis and Peterson (Min) this week. Might work out, might not - but of all the factors I consider when choosing my lineup - where I drafted someone doesn't enter the equation.
 
If KC gets down by a significant margin early LJ will probably get a lot of passing yards from dumpoffs. If they stay in the game he might wear down the defense. He's as likely to score as any other option I have. Plus throw in a goal line core. He might be capable of an average game. Not much more.

 
Never bench your stud. LJ is a stud.

The guy only got 10 carries last week after holding out the entire preseason and he still almost put up double digit points. This guy is just like LT, in that if he gets shut down on the ground, he also catches passes and he will also get 1st, 2nd and 3rd chances at all the Chief's TDs. IF you want to bench him in week 2, I would suggest trading him now. You didn't draft the guy at #3, #4 overall to sit him if you have already lost hope in the guy get rid of him.

 
Never bench your stud. LJ is a stud. The guy only got 10 carries last week after holding out the entire preseason and he still almost put up double digit points. This guy is just like LT, in that if he gets shut down on the ground, he also catches passes and he will also get 1st, 2nd and 3rd chances at all the Chief's TDs. IF you want to bench him in week 2, I would suggest trading him now. You didn't draft the guy at #3, #4 overall to sit him if you have already lost hope in the guy get rid of him.
Here's to that. Chicago is a quality defense but they arent even top 5 against the run going back to last year. They are barely top 10. That's good but it's not the end of the world. Add in Chicago's injuries from last week and they might end up being an average run stopping defense.I dont expect 150 yards from LJ but I dont think he's going to have a 25 yard game either. At some point he's going to have a good game just by breaking one long. Maybe it will be against Chitown this week. I personally think the Bears are really overrated, especially with Grossman looking as terrible as he did last week.
 
It's not so much the Bears D I'm afraid of. It's the fact that the Chiefs are looking to be firing on 1 cylinder and how slow they started last year. I just don't think they'd do well against ANY defense right now, let alone the Bears.

 
I think I'll bench him, but then I can run Tomlinson and McGahee instead. Auction leagues are great! Sure wouldn't want to have to wrestle with the decision if LJ was my #1 RB....

 
i think benching LJ is a mistake as well.

he is the focal point of that offense...no matter how badly KC does, he will always get his touches. even though i don't foresee a whole lot of yards, i wouldn't be surprised.

Herm has already come out and said that he needs to get the ball to LJ more. he specifically said "we have to run the football 30 times." obviously, this is contingent on them still being in the game to have the option to run the ball. but even if they don't get to run the ball 30 times...who are they going to pass to other than Gonzalez? i'll tell you who...LJ.

in my league it's 1pt per reception or 10 yards rushing...4 to 5 receptions is 40-50 yards. add the 80 or so i think he'll get on the ground and a TD and i'm ok with that.

bottom line: against CHI his upside is limited...but being the only real offensive option on KC, his downside is also limited. with that said, i don't think he's a homerun play but definitely a solid one.

Sep 12 Coach Herm Edwards plans to give Johnson more touches Sunday against Chicago, the Chiefs' official web site reports.

Recommendation: Johnson wasn't able to get into a rhythm last Sunday with his 17 touches (10 carries, 7 receptions). "We have to run the football as an offense 30 times," Edwards said. "We have to get him some more carries." If Kansas City runs the ball 30 times against the Bears, expect 20-25 of those to go to Johnson. He's too talented to consider benching him in fantasy leagues this week despite the difficult matchup.

 
LJ has THIS going for him....

At any moment Grossman can throw a bad pick inside his own 20 giving LJ a short field to punch in a score.

 
There is no way I would start LJ this week against that defense. Chicago will pitch a shutout.
Chicago came out and punched SD but SD punched back, when Chicago punch KC in the mouth (after watching that mess last week) I don't they are capable of punching back.....more like curl up in a corner and suck on thumb type team.I do hope I'm wrong, I just don't see it THIS week.
 
There is no way I would start LJ this week against that defense. Chicago will pitch a shutout.
Chicago came out and punched SD but SD punched back, when Chicago punch KC in the mouth (after watching that mess last week) I don't they are capable of punching back.....more like curl up in a corner and suck on thumb type team.I do hope I'm wrong, I just don't see it THIS week.
The loss of Mike Brown and Tommy Harris last year really impacted the Bears ability to stop the run. They went from a top-3 run defense to very mediocre. Now Mike Brown is out for the year again. I think it will be a factor. He is a pro-bowl caliber player when healthy and really covers up some of the Bear's deficiencies in the secondary when he is in there (against the run and pass). And I don't believe Harris is playing every snap yet still recovering from his off season surgery.They also lost Dusty Dvoracek, which hurts their Defensive line depth. They were really counting on him to be healthy given them cutting Tank Johnson, the injury to Harris, and the loss of some other guys via free agency. LJ may be able to wear them down in the 4th quarter if the game is close.
 
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There is no way I would start LJ this week against that defense. Chicago will pitch a shutout.
Chicago came out and punched SD but SD punched back, when Chicago punch KC in the mouth (after watching that mess last week) I don't they are capable of punching back.....more like curl up in a corner and suck on thumb type team.I do hope I'm wrong, I just don't see it THIS week.
The loss of Mike Brown and Tommy Harris last year really impacted the Bears ability to stop the run. They went from a top-3 run defense to very mediocre. Now Mike Brown is out for the year again. I think it will be a factor. He is a pro-bowl caliber player when healthy and really covers up some of the Bear's deficiencies in the secondary when he is in there (against the run and pass). And I don't believe Harris is playing every snap yet still recovering from his off season surgery.They also lost Dusty Dvoracek, which hurts their Defensive line depth. They were really counting on him to be healthy given them cutting Tank Johnson, the injury to Harris, and the loss of some other guys via free agency. LJ may be able to wear them down in the 4th quarter if the game is close.
that is all true, but the bears also aquired (sp) another run stopping saftey in archulleta. what worries me this year, is the bears deep pass coverage, with the bears relying on their safteys over the top most of the time. archulleta cant run and neither can anyone else in there deep coverage, with the exception of maybe danielle manning.
 
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This game could get ugly very fast even if Chicago plays 1/2 as good as they played last week. Expect 9 in the box all day long with a relentless push on the O-line.

So if the Bears D plays half as good as last week, LJ will have 2 rushing TD's AND 2 passing TD's...

I'm starting LJ, can't pass up 4 TD's from a RB. Thanks.

 
As a Bears fan I can tell you their defense if very good, one of the best in the league but still if you don't have a top option its hard to sit LJ. Even if the bears defense which is a little better vs. the pass than the run puts up a great game, which they will I still see LJ catching some balls and having a possible TD. Benching LJ was a slight option this week but after further review I'm keeping him in.

 
Never bench your studs! As soon as you do, he will have a 3 td day. The Bears defense is good, but that does not mean they can't be scored on, because they can. Start LJ every single game, and the only time you ever bench him, is if there is a bye week, or he gets hurt.
 
LJ owners will have to be talked down off ledges pretty soon. Chicago this week, then: Minnesota, San Diego, Jacksonville.

Is it possible the Chiefs won't score a touchdown until week 6 vs. the Bengals?
that is a BRUTAL rush schedule to start the season. Their "cake" game was last week.
The only saving grace for LJ is that after that point in the schedule, it gets pretty good:D rank against the run last year:

21

28

BYE

15

26

32

28

10

Playoffs:

26

29

25

Honestly, with that schedule, a saavy ffballer might TARGET LJ after week 5 or after the BYE.
Good point. You should start a thread about that.
 

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