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Loaning a chick money 9/9/16 - Bye (2 Viewers)

Any "cool" factor he had also went out the door when he started the 'ending every post with "guy"' schtick. He's one step away from becoming LHucks.
:goodposting: That "guy" schtick is weakIf your going to come in here with these outlandish stories, truth or fiction, be prepared to face some serious FBG inquires.....and when you get called out man up and take it.
I'm pretty sure I've said, as Hulk said, that the "guy" schtick has been running around these boards for years. It's never intended to offend anyone.
 
Any "cool" factor he had also went out the door when he started the 'ending every post with "guy"' schtick. He's one step away from becoming LHucks.
:goodposting: That "guy" schtick is weakIf your going to come in here with these outlandish stories, truth or fiction, be prepared to face some serious FBG inquires.....and when you get called out man up and take it.
I'm pretty sure I've said, as Hulk said, that the "guy" schtick has been running around these boards for years. It's never intended to offend anyone.
Even if it wasn't intended, it would be understandable as they are criticizing your life style/marriage.
 
Any "cool" factor he had also went out the door when he started the 'ending every post with "guy"' schtick. He's one step away from becoming LHucks.
:goodposting: That "guy" schtick is weakIf your going to come in here with these outlandish stories, truth or fiction, be prepared to face some serious FBG inquires.....and when you get called out man up and take it.
:shrug:It seems like he's done that throughout this thread.
In my opinion it's still weak and CONDESCENDING. I respect the appeal of AZ Ron's stories for some, but no need to start the "guy" schtick when he gets called out or questioned. :2cents:
Please shut up. TIA.
Oh sorry sir, yes sir.Get the #### outta here......guy.Sorry if I have offended some, I'm not hating at all and could actually care less. This is a public board, no? Was just sharing my opinion and will move on from this thread. Nothing to see here, please move along and keep enjoying AZ Ron's story.
Enjoy a great season, guy...
 
very fun reading about you ron. so which states were you in? and is there a difference in the offdee scale in each area you resided?

 
Wednesday night, I decided to talk to my wife about our current state of affairs. I went to my daughter’s room so she can read one of her new books to me, put her to sleep then met my wife on the couch to talk around 9pm.I waited for a bit then I started by apologizing for overreacting Saturday morning:Wife: “It’s ok, I’ve never seen you so worked up over nothing. Angie was at the bar and clearly had too much to drink. We were the only ones in the bar she knew, we couldn’t just let her stagger out of the bar alone after making that scene.”Me: “I know, you did the right thing. I think the problem is that I haven’t been fully forthcoming about my time with Angie. I know we agreed a long time ago to not share details but I think I may have been sending signals to Angie that we’re more than just buddies.”(my wife readjusted her position. I couldn’t tell if it was to brace for a punch or to throw one)Wife: “What does that mean…exactly?”Me: “I don’t think there’s one distinct incident but the combination of everything may have given the wrong impression. My concern was that she would overreact and potentially do something stupid or even try to hurt someone.”Wife: “Why didn’t you tell me this and when did you start feeling the need to hide things from me? I don’t even feel like we’re married any more. Why bother”I try to start explaining myself but my wife clearly doesn’t want to hear anything I have to say. She gets up from the couch and leaves the room. The next time I see her she’s dressed and walking out the door.Damn.Thursday morning I took my daughter to school and received a text from my wife that afternoon that I should plan on picking her up as well. My wife said she needed some time away to figure things out. This morning was the first time I saw her since Wednesday; my security camera shows her coming home alone around 2 am this morning. She was still sleeping when I took my daughter to school this morning. Yesterday Angie called me to tell me she’s still waiting on her deposit to pay me back but was having trouble getting it from the landlord and asked if I could help. The landlord told her that he 45 days to return the deposit. I told her the landlord was within his rights. She then asked if I was upset about not getting the loan back yet, I said no – I know these things take time.Our conversation was more pleasant than prior ones, they didn’t seem as caustic. She also told me that she saw my wife out with Girl 3 last night (Wednesday night when she left mad). I have no idea why I did this but I told her I wasn’t surprised and she left the house mad. I was even dumb enough to tell Angie why my wife was mad. Angie, of course, invited me to come hang out to relax and get things off my mind. I told her I’m not sure what I’m doing tonight but I might take her up on the offer.I’m really hustlin backwards right now.

 
Your wife just bolted 10 seconds into a conversation like that? FWIW, if she wants to "figure out some things" about your relationship with her, its typically helpful to include you in that process.

 
Wednesday night, I decided to talk to my wife about our current state of affairs. I went to my daughter’s room so she can read one of her new books to me, put her to sleep then met my wife on the couch to talk around 9pm.

I waited for a bit then I started by apologizing for overreacting Saturday morning:

Wife: “It’s ok, I’ve never seen you so worked up over nothing. Angie was at the bar and clearly had too much to drink. We were the only ones in the bar she knew, we couldn’t just let her stagger out of the bar alone after making that scene.”

Me: “I know, you did the right thing. I think the problem is that I haven’t been fully forthcoming about my time with Angie. I know we agreed a long time ago to not share details but I think I may have been sending signals to Angie that we’re more than just buddies.”

(my wife readjusted her position. I couldn’t tell if it was to brace for a punch or to throw one)

Wife: “What does that mean…exactly?”

Me: “I don’t think there’s one distinct incident but the combination of everything may have given the wrong impression. My concern was that she would overreact and potentially do something stupid or even try to hurt someone.”

Wife: “Why didn’t you tell me this and when did you start feeling the need to hide things from me? I don’t even feel like we’re married any more. Why bother”

I try to start explaining myself but my wife clearly doesn’t want to hear anything I have to say. She gets up from the couch and leaves the room. The next time I see her she’s dressed and walking out the door.

Damn.

Thursday morning I took my daughter to school and received a text from my wife that afternoon that I should plan on picking her up as well. My wife said she needed some time away to figure things out. This morning was the first time I saw her since Wednesday; my security camera shows her coming home alone around 2 am this morning. She was still sleeping when I took my daughter to school this morning.

Yesterday Angie called me to tell me she’s still waiting on her deposit to pay me back but was having trouble getting it from the landlord and asked if I could help. The landlord told her that he 45 days to return the deposit. I told her the landlord was within his rights. She then asked if I was upset about not getting the loan back yet, I said no – I know these things take time.

Our conversation was more pleasant than prior ones, they didn’t seem as caustic. She also told me that she saw my wife out with Girl 3 last night (Wednesday night when she left mad). I have no idea why I did this but I told her I wasn’t surprised and she left the house mad. I was even dumb enough to tell Angie why my wife was mad. Angie, of course, invited me to come hang out to relax and get things off my mind. I told her I’m not sure what I’m doing tonight but I might take her up on the offer.

I’m really hustlin backwards right now.
Uh oh.. this does not sound good. If you want things to work with the wife the best thing to do would be to probably not see Angie till things get squared away with the Mrs. Now, the best thing for the FFA and this story is for you to go an knock boots with Angie. Hope it all works out for ya.

 
Your wife just bolted 10 seconds into a conversation like that? FWIW, if she wants to "figure out some things" about your relationship with her, its typically helpful to include you in that process.
I kinda felt that she was looking for a reason to fly off the handle. She boiled up pretty quickly to my surprise which means I ignored he simmering.
 
Your wife just bolted 10 seconds into a conversation like that? FWIW, if she wants to "figure out some things" about your relationship with her, its typically helpful to include you in that process.
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: WTF was that? She didnt even hear what you had to say. Sounds like she was just looking for any excuse to leave. Very Bad sign IMO.
 
Your wife just bolted 10 seconds into a conversation like that? FWIW, if she wants to "figure out some things" about your relationship with her, its typically helpful to include you in that process.
I kinda felt that she was looking for a reason to fly off the handle. She boiled up pretty quickly to my surprise which means I ignored he simmering.
Something other than Angie is probably bothering her. You'll never know what until you ask her what it is though. You might not like the answer or the delivery if she's been simmering for a while.I noticed earlier in the tale, you brought your wife out for a night on the town and she ended up in lesbotown to end the night. If the point of the night was time with each other, it seemed like she wasn't as into that as time with the other chick. It might've been nothing, but coupled with this latest development, it might not have been. Maybe she views you more as a father and friend rather than as a lover? When was the last time you guys did the deed with each other?
 
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Your wife just bolted 10 seconds into a conversation like that? FWIW, if she wants to "figure out some things" about your relationship with her, its typically helpful to include you in that process.
I kinda felt that she was looking for a reason to fly off the handle. She boiled up pretty quickly to my surprise which means I ignored he simmering.
Is this typical behavior for her? If memory serves me correctly she was pissed about the 3 racks as well then eventually got over it.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.

 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
Holy ####, i think my marriage may be screwed. :(
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I have exactly 3 orange DOTs :bag:
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.

We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
There are some guys in the dots thread that won't want to read this!
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
Holy ####, i think my marriage may be screwed. :(
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I have exactly 3 orange DOTs :bag:
Start hiding money imo. I have 2 small kids too. Alone time is difficult to come by.In better times, I'd say 8 to 10 times a month was the minimum in my marriage.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
Holy ####, i think my marriage may be screwed. :(
:goodposting: and me and my wife are still in love with each other and have no issues
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
Your wife is <20% of your sexual encounters this year? I've never been in an open relationship, but I always figured your partner would be the clubhouse leader MVP of your sex life still.Even if you've drifted apart some, no reason why you couldn't drift back closer again if thats what you both want.
 
So all this open marriage stuff doesnt really sound like a marriage afterall. Im not sure how important this marriage is to you Ron but Id say there are some huge red flags from what you posted. Counciling may be in order to fix this marriage. Or you may not wanna fix it afterall. Not really sure. You guys can still be great parents without being married.

 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
Oof..Someone mentioned earlier that your wife is using you to have kids..sounds like they hit the nail on the head.
 
So all this open marriage stuff doesnt really sound like a marriage afterall. Im not sure how important this marriage is to you Ron but Id say there are some huge red flags from what you posted. Counciling may be in order to fix this marriage. Or you may not wanna fix it afterall. Not really sure. You guys can still be great parents without being married.
Folks who know me would be really surprised to read this, but I don't necessarily agree. On the face of it--sure, I can't deal with an open marriage myself, and split with one girl after years together because that's what she wanted. But--her marriage since then has been strong as far as I know, and she's involved with a dozen such couples last I heard (it's been awhile)--so I'd say it's a viable lifestyle choice, just not for me. I sure might have been good with it if she was into other women instead of men--can't speak to that, really. Suspect I would try to fit in somehow...

 
So all this open marriage stuff doesnt really sound like a marriage afterall. Im not sure how important this marriage is to you Ron but Id say there are some huge red flags from what you posted. Counciling may be in order to fix this marriage. Or you may not wanna fix it afterall. Not really sure. You guys can still be great parents without being married.
Folks who know me would be really surprised to read this, but I don't necessarily agree. On the face of it--sure, I can't deal with an open marriage myself, and split with one girl after years together because that's what she wanted. But--her marriage since then has been strong as far as I know, and she's involved with a dozen such couples last I heard (it's been awhile)--so I'd say it's a viable lifestyle choice, just not for me. I sure might have been good with it if she was into other women instead of men--can't speak to that, really. Suspect I would try to fit in somehow...
Im not saying an open marriage cant work. Im saying his open marriage doesnt seem to be working.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
Oof..Someone mentioned earlier that your wife is using you to have kids..sounds like they hit the nail on the head.
It's never been consistant. Some weeks we'll :pickle: 5 times, then go two weeks :sadbanana: . Most of that isn't her fault as it depends on how many times I throw the :pickle: to someone else.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
Oof..Someone mentioned earlier that your wife is using you to have kids..sounds like they hit the nail on the head.
It's never been consistant. Some weeks we'll :pickle: 5 times, then go two weeks :sadbanana: . Most of that isn't her fault as it depends on how many times I throw the :pickle: to someone else.
Has there been issues in the past with other girls getting too relationshipy? If so, how has the wife handled it in the past?
 
In better times, I'd say 8 to 10 times a month was the minimum in my marriage.
Wow. I didn't know such a world existed outside of books or movies--and I consider mine to be a good marriage. :mellow:
:goodposting: I am in a simialr boat :unsure:
If I had my druthers, I'd average like 60 times a month.I'm 35 and so is my wife... are you guys older or something?
I'm older, my wife your age. First marriage was way worse but we were really mismatched. Not happy with it--just had to sit back and decide just what's most important to me and how to deal. you write down a list of plusses and minuses and I figure I've got it really good overall. :cool:
 
In better times, I'd say 8 to 10 times a month was the minimum in my marriage.
Wow. I didn't know such a world existed outside of books or movies--and I consider mine to be a good marriage. :mellow:
:goodposting: I am in a simialr boat :unsure:
If I had my druthers, I'd average like 60 times a month.I'm 35 and so is my wife... are you guys older or something?
40 with 2 kids. Alone time is tough to come by and by the time we get to where the kids are asleep we are both exhausted.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
Oof..Someone mentioned earlier that your wife is using you to have kids..sounds like they hit the nail on the head.
It's never been consistant. Some weeks we'll :pickle: 5 times, then go two weeks :sadbanana: . Most of that isn't her fault as it depends on how many times I throw the :pickle: to someone else.
Has there been issues in the past with other girls getting too relationshipy? If so, how has the wife handled it in the past?
With her, yes. With me, no. The problem is I'm not sure what she really believes that at this point. Or if really has nothing to do with Angie. I'm about to PM Shuke for answers.
 
BTW, my wife and I have been in a totally messed up space with each other since mid-december. We've began couples therapy, yada yada, but we're not on real good terms yet.We've still done it 3 times in 2013. If your number is lower than that... thats not good. 3 times in 2013 is like the bar for a barely functioning held together with duct tape marriage imo.
I've had sex about 6 times in 2013. Once with her at the beginning of this month. Yeah, we've got a problem.
Oof..Someone mentioned earlier that your wife is using you to have kids..sounds like they hit the nail on the head.
It's never been consistant. Some weeks we'll :pickle: 5 times, then go two weeks :sadbanana: . Most of that isn't her fault as it depends on how many times I throw the :pickle: to someone else.
Has there been issues in the past with other girls getting too relationshipy? If so, how has the wife handled it in the past?
With her, yes. With me, no. The problem is I'm not sure what she really believes that at this point. Or if really has nothing to do with Angie. I'm about to PM Shuke for answers.
Actually i remember you mentioning a girl that she had a deep connection with (don't remember which girl number) that she basically broke down after she left for school. How is that fair with your rules. Sounds like you are getting the short end of the stick here even though you get to hook up with other people. Maybe i don't want AZ Rons likef :confused:
 
Seems pretty simple to me, Mrs set up the rules here which Ron has admitted multiple times earlier in the thread. Part of those rules is not keeping things from her, she likes the control and is very upset that Ron stepped out of bounds. Add to that fact that I'm sure the full blown Lesbo she is hanging with is doing whatever she can to drive a wedge.

 
Seems pretty simple to me, Mrs set up the rules here which Ron has admitted multiple times earlier in the thread. Part of those rules is not keeping things from her, she likes the control and is very upset that Ron stepped out of bounds. Add to that fact that I'm sure the full blown Lesbo she is hanging with is doing whatever she can to drive a wedge.
:wub: :wub:
 

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