If you bailed a buddy out of jail and had other things you had to do, you're telling me you wouldn't drop him off at a bar, hand him some cash and tell him to have one on you? I would. I suspect most of the guys in this thread would.I stand by my statement. Different concepts of friends. I also agree with the above poster that there's a difference between a FWB and a FB. This chick is clearly being treated as a friend, not a ####buddy.I'll disagree. Guys help other guys/girls move but they don't rent the truck, hire the movers and take care of things while their friend says "whoops". Guys buy each other drinks but none of the guys I know would give another guy cash for drinks when they aren't drinking together. Hey, John, after bailing you outta jail, why don't you take this 40 and have a round on me?No, those are complications of hving a friend. Girlfriend complications are things like monogamy, holidays with family, etc.I don't think you understand the FWB thing. They get together and F without the complications of a relationship. Helping someone move, bailing someone outta jail, giving them cash for drinks, etc are complications of having a GF, not of FWB. Keeping her happy was the loan of 3 racks.I don't see either of those as mistakes on our hero's part. As far as he knew they were just FWB'ing it at the time. If you have a friend with great benefits, and you'd like to keep benefitting all over those benefits... Then you help her out when she needs a favor.Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Guys help friends move, get out of jail, buy each other drinks all the time. Women, however, wouldn't show up to help move a piece of furniture unless an engagement ring was under it. Hence the confusion here.
Yeah, idiotic. And I've helped plenty of people move, guy.
We only know what our GB Ron knows. As we all know women are a lot smarter than men when it comes to this stuff. Having known lesbians myself I have a hard time believing that she's not developing emotional relationships with these women.'iamsmilin said:Agreed. However, she sounds more forth coming with her activities than he is. Could be a perception thing since all the stories are of him and Angie.'cstu said:Isn't the stuff she's doing falling into GF category? This woman wants her pie and to eat it too.'iamsmilin said:Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?'jon_mx said:The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Rough weekend. I'm in no shape to up right now.Uh oh.Rough weekend. I'm in no shape to up right now.
I suspect you are wrong. What are you a nancy boy who has to hold your friend's hands. From a female perspective Smilen has always givin a great insight from the other side.'Henry Ford said:If you bailed a buddy out of jail and had other things you had to do, you're telling me you wouldn't drop him off at a bar, hand him some cash and tell him to have one on you? I would. I suspect most of the guys in this thread would.I stand by my statement. Different concepts of friends. I also agree with the above poster that there's a difference between a FWB and a FB. This chick is clearly being treated as a friend, not a ####buddy.'iamsmilin said:I'll disagree. Guys help other guys/girls move but they don't rent the truck, hire the movers and take care of things while their friend says "whoops". Guys buy each other drinks but none of the guys I know would give another guy cash for drinks when they aren't drinking together. Hey, John, after bailing you outta jail, why don't you take this 40 and have a round on me?'Henry Ford said:No, those are complications of hving a friend. Girlfriend complications are things like monogamy, holidays with family, etc.'iamsmilin said:I don't think you understand the FWB thing. They get together and F without the complications of a relationship. Helping someone move, bailing someone outta jail, giving them cash for drinks, etc are complications of having a GF, not of FWB. Keeping her happy was the loan of 3 racks.'Frankbot said:I don't see either of those as mistakes on our hero's part. As far as he knew they were just FWB'ing it at the time. If you have a friend with great benefits, and you'd like to keep benefitting all over those benefits... Then you help her out when she needs a favor.'iamsmilin said:Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?'jon_mx said:The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Guys help friends move, get out of jail, buy each other drinks all the time. Women, however, wouldn't show up to help move a piece of furniture unless an engagement ring was under it. Hence the confusion here.
Yeah, idiotic. And I've helped plenty of people move, guy.
I suspect you are wrong. What are you a nancy boy who has to hold your friend's hands. From a female perspective Smilen has always givin a great insight from the other side.'Henry Ford said:If you bailed a buddy out of jail and had other things you had to do, you're telling me you wouldn't drop him off at a bar, hand him some cash and tell him to have one on you? I would. I suspect most of the guys in this thread would.I stand by my statement. Different concepts of friends. I also agree with the above poster that there's a difference between a FWB and a FB. This chick is clearly being treated as a friend, not a ####buddy.'iamsmilin said:I'll disagree. Guys help other guys/girls move but they don't rent the truck, hire the movers and take care of things while their friend says "whoops". Guys buy each other drinks but none of the guys I know would give another guy cash for drinks when they aren't drinking together. Hey, John, after bailing you outta jail, why don't you take this 40 and have a round on me?'Henry Ford said:No, those are complications of hving a friend. Girlfriend complications are things like monogamy, holidays with family, etc.'iamsmilin said:I don't think you understand the FWB thing. They get together and F without the complications of a relationship. Helping someone move, bailing someone outta jail, giving them cash for drinks, etc are complications of having a GF, not of FWB. Keeping her happy was the loan of 3 racks.'Frankbot said:I don't see either of those as mistakes on our hero's part. As far as he knew they were just FWB'ing it at the time. If you have a friend with great benefits, and you'd like to keep benefitting all over those benefits... Then you help her out when she needs a favor.'iamsmilin said:Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?'jon_mx said:The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Guys help friends move, get out of jail, buy each other drinks all the time. Women, however, wouldn't show up to help move a piece of furniture unless an engagement ring was under it. Hence the confusion here.
Yeah, idiotic. And I've helped plenty of people move, guy.
How about now??Rough weekend. I'm in no shape to up right now.

Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.I suspect you are wrong. What are you a nancy boy who has to hold your friend's hands. From a female perspective Smilen has always givin a great insight from the other side.'Henry Ford said:If you bailed a buddy out of jail and had other things you had to do, you're telling me you wouldn't drop him off at a bar, hand him some cash and tell him to have one on you? I would. I suspect most of the guys in this thread would.I stand by my statement. Different concepts of friends. I also agree with the above poster that there's a difference between a FWB and a FB. This chick is clearly being treated as a friend, not a ####buddy.'iamsmilin said:I'll disagree. Guys help other guys/girls move but they don't rent the truck, hire the movers and take care of things while their friend says "whoops". Guys buy each other drinks but none of the guys I know would give another guy cash for drinks when they aren't drinking together. Hey, John, after bailing you outta jail, why don't you take this 40 and have a round on me?'Henry Ford said:No, those are complications of hving a friend. Girlfriend complications are things like monogamy, holidays with family, etc.'iamsmilin said:I don't think you understand the FWB thing. They get together and F without the complications of a relationship. Helping someone move, bailing someone outta jail, giving them cash for drinks, etc are complications of having a GF, not of FWB. Keeping her happy was the loan of 3 racks.'Frankbot said:I don't see either of those as mistakes on our hero's part. As far as he knew they were just FWB'ing it at the time. If you have a friend with great benefits, and you'd like to keep benefitting all over those benefits... Then you help her out when she needs a favor.'iamsmilin said:Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?'jon_mx said:The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Guys help friends move, get out of jail, buy each other drinks all the time. Women, however, wouldn't show up to help move a piece of furniture unless an engagement ring was under it. Hence the confusion here.
Yeah, idiotic. And I've helped plenty of people move, guy.
Think about how much better it will be when AZ Ron gets separated from wifey and turns back into the bachelor playa that he was**I sincerely hope his marriage can last, but based on the last post, not sure.This has been a great thread
Probably going to be tougher to play the game without wifey as a wingman.Think about how much better it will be when AZ Ron gets separated from wifey and turns back into the bachelor playa that he was**I sincerely hope his marriage can last, but based on the last post, not sure.This has been a great thread
I suspect you are wrong. What are you a nancy boy who has to hold your friend's hands. From a female perspective Smilen has always givin a great insight from the other side.'Henry Ford said:If you bailed a buddy out of jail and had other things you had to do, you're telling me you wouldn't drop him off at a bar, hand him some cash and tell him to have one on you? I would. I suspect most of the guys in this thread would.I stand by my statement. Different concepts of friends. I also agree with the above poster that there's a difference between a FWB and a FB. This chick is clearly being treated as a friend, not a ####buddy.'iamsmilin said:I'll disagree. Guys help other guys/girls move but they don't rent the truck, hire the movers and take care of things while their friend says "whoops". Guys buy each other drinks but none of the guys I know would give another guy cash for drinks when they aren't drinking together. Hey, John, after bailing you outta jail, why don't you take this 40 and have a round on me?'Henry Ford said:No, those are complications of hving a friend. Girlfriend complications are things like monogamy, holidays with family, etc.'iamsmilin said:I don't think you understand the FWB thing. They get together and F without the complications of a relationship. Helping someone move, bailing someone outta jail, giving them cash for drinks, etc are complications of having a GF, not of FWB. Keeping her happy was the loan of 3 racks.'Frankbot said:I don't see either of those as mistakes on our hero's part. As far as he knew they were just FWB'ing it at the time. If you have a friend with great benefits, and you'd like to keep benefitting all over those benefits... Then you help her out when she needs a favor.'iamsmilin said:Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?'jon_mx said:The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Guys help friends move, get out of jail, buy each other drinks all the time. Women, however, wouldn't show up to help move a piece of furniture unless an engagement ring was under it. Hence the confusion here.
Yeah, idiotic. And I've helped plenty of people move, guy.
Pocahontas'Steve Tasker said:Colon Blow Diaries'Sand said:Oh, the things you've missed. The poop in the ceiling, the Russian Brides, the "Osama was into Porn" (which I archived it was so good)...'kineticnfl said:First time into the FFA thread and I come across this!Best.Thread.Ever.
cmon man.........sack upRough weekend. I'm in no shape to up right now.
You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.
If that makes me female, well ok.I'd be pissed just having to bail them out of jail, let alone bring them home or give them a double sawbuck at the bar. Then again, I don't have to worry about it since I view friends as baggage to begin with.You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
If I just bailed out someone then I sure as hell wouldn't drop them off at a bar and give them money to boot.You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
Camping with Steve and the Man in the Yellow hatPocahontas'Steve Tasker said:Colon Blow Diaries'Sand said:Oh, the things you've missed. The poop in the ceiling, the Russian Brides, the "Osama was into Porn" (which I archived it was so good)...'kineticnfl said:First time into the FFA thread and I come across this!Best.Thread.Ever.
I suspect you are wrong. What are you a nancy boy who has to hold your friend's hands. From a female perspective Smilen has always givin a great insight from the other side.'Henry Ford said:If you bailed a buddy out of jail and had other things you had to do, you're telling me you wouldn't drop him off at a bar, hand him some cash and tell him to have one on you? I would. I suspect most of the guys in this thread would.I stand by my statement. Different concepts of friends. I also agree with the above poster that there's a difference between a FWB and a FB. This chick is clearly being treated as a friend, not a ####buddy.'iamsmilin said:I'll disagree. Guys help other guys/girls move but they don't rent the truck, hire the movers and take care of things while their friend says "whoops". Guys buy each other drinks but none of the guys I know would give another guy cash for drinks when they aren't drinking together. Hey, John, after bailing you outta jail, why don't you take this 40 and have a round on me?'Henry Ford said:No, those are complications of hving a friend. Girlfriend complications are things like monogamy, holidays with family, etc.'iamsmilin said:I don't think you understand the FWB thing. They get together and F without the complications of a relationship. Helping someone move, bailing someone outta jail, giving them cash for drinks, etc are complications of having a GF, not of FWB. Keeping her happy was the loan of 3 racks.'Frankbot said:I don't see either of those as mistakes on our hero's part. As far as he knew they were just FWB'ing it at the time. If you have a friend with great benefits, and you'd like to keep benefitting all over those benefits... Then you help her out when she needs a favor.'iamsmilin said:Well to be fair, he did a lot of stuff with Angie that falls into the boy-friend category and didn't tell his wife. Helping her move? Stupid. Shoulda left her to figure it out. Bailing her out? Also stupid. Seriously, do you really blame the girl for thinking he has more than casual feelings for her after all that?I stand by my statements grow up and be a man'jon_mx said:The way Ron presented it to his wife he was taking the blame for Angie to be Batass crazy. Should not have taken the fall for her behavior, IMHO. I don't blame his wife for the way she responded. He played it smooth with the other chick that was butting into his marriage, but this time he dropped the ball. Of course that happens when you play in the mine fields.
Guys help friends move, get out of jail, buy each other drinks all the time. Women, however, wouldn't show up to help move a piece of furniture unless an engagement ring was under it. Hence the confusion here.
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I thought you were female. I wasn't trying to imply that your answer makes you female, rather the other way around - your being female informs your answer in a lot of different ways, particularly given the socialization of women on this continent. I'm sure many people have a different perspective than I do, and I certainly:a) don't think saying something is the female perspective is insulting; andb) wasn't trying to be insulting to you personally.'iamsmilin said:You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.'Henry Ford said:Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
I hope you can get everything worked out for your family. This thread and the excited posters should be the last thing on your mind at this point.'Arizona Ron said:Rough weekend. I'm in no shape to up right now.
I dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.
I hope you can get everything worked out for your family. This thread and the excited posters should be the last thing on your mind at this point.'Arizona Ron said:Rough weekend. I'm in no shape to up right now.

I am female. I just hard when I try to make a point and it's ONLY taken as a female point of view. The discussion we had felt like you were picking specific points in the story to make your point versus looking at the entire picture. I'm not or do not feel insulted but it sucks having a valid (or what I feel as valid) point of view dismissed just because I'm female.I thought you were female. I wasn't trying to imply that your answer makes you female, rather the other way around - your being female informs your answer in a lot of different ways, particularly given the socialization of women on this continent. I'm sure many people have a different perspective than I do, and I certainly:a) don't think saying something is the female perspective is insulting; andb) wasn't trying to be insulting to you personally.'iamsmilin said:You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.'Henry Ford said:Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
Its called meth and coke, dude.It's right before Christmas and I know people get short this time of year. If she asked for a few hundred, this wouldn't even be an issues - $3k makes me think she's got bigger issues.
My apologies. I don't think your point is invalid because you're female. I think you have limited the definition of "friend" in your concept of "friend with benefits" and think it's wrong to do so, particularly when AZ Ron has repeatedly stated that he does these things because he thinks of them as friends. Which makes me think - hey, I know a lot of people who do that, and many of them are female. Maybe it's related in some way. What do you think?I am female. I just hard when I try to make a point and it's ONLY taken as a female point of view. The discussion we had felt like you were picking specific points in the story to make your point versus looking at the entire picture. I'm not or do not feel insulted but it sucks having a valid (or what I feel as valid) point of view dismissed just because I'm female.I thought you were female. I wasn't trying to imply that your answer makes you female, rather the other way around - your being female informs your answer in a lot of different ways, particularly given the socialization of women on this continent. I'm sure many people have a different perspective than I do, and I certainly:a) don't think saying something is the female perspective is insulting; andb) wasn't trying to be insulting to you personally.'iamsmilin said:You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.'Henry Ford said:Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
Geez, you guys are really taking that 'rough weekend' comment and assuming the worse. Maybe he's just hung over from a long weekend of drinking and banging strange.
That's how I took it. Banging whoorez. Fighting with the wife, make up sex.

Really? A lot of us saw theI dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.
coming from miles away.It's called a character arc.I dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.
Oh, I definitely feel bad for the guy. Still, it's like a car accident. You know something went bad, but you still watch. For what it's worth, I hope he can pull it together.I dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.
Pretty much everybody agreed that the three-rack loan was a stunningly bad idea, beginning with post #2.Really? A lot of us saw theI dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.coming from miles away.
My main point was a FWB should still be treated more as a friend and less of a girlfriend. My POV is AR's actions are more like a boyfriend than friend. Yes, friends help you move. They don't plan everything, pay for everything while you sit and watch, that's a boyfriend thing. If Lance called and asked him for help with a move, AR would've probably walked out if there wasn't even a truck rented. I could be wrong. I'm sure you'd argue that a FWB deserves more attention that a regular friend, I just don't agree since it jumps their classification to dating or being a girlfriend.Edit because I suck at typing on an iphone.My apologies. I don't think your point is invalid because you're female. I think you have limited the definition of "friend" in your concept of "friend with benefits" and think it's wrong to do so, particularly when AZ Ron has repeatedly stated that he does these things because he thinks of them as friends. Which makes me think - hey, I know a lot of people who do that, and many of them are female. Maybe it's related in some way. What do you think?I am female. I just hard when I try to make a point and it's ONLY taken as a female point of view. The discussion we had felt like you were picking specific points in the story to make your point versus looking at the entire picture. I'm not or do not feel insulted but it sucks having a valid (or what I feel as valid) point of view dismissed just because I'm female.I thought you were female. I wasn't trying to imply that your answer makes you female, rather the other way around - your being female informs your answer in a lot of different ways, particularly given the socialization of women on this continent. I'm sure many people have a different perspective than I do, and I certainly:a) don't think saying something is the female perspective is insulting; andb) wasn't trying to be insulting to you personally.'iamsmilin said:You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.'Henry Ford said:Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
Geez, you guys are really taking that 'rough weekend' comment and assuming the worse. Maybe he's just hung over from a long weekend of drinking and banging strange.That's how I took it. Banging whoorez. Fighting with the wife, make up sex.
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seems like we are on scheduleI think it's OK. Please come back and update us about your prono type experience with her next monthAnd then the divorce proceedings the month after
My comment more had to do with the fact that this thread started out as him loaning some chick money, to him being in an open marriage, to now what Im assuming is possible divorce. Everyone knew it was a bad idea but youd be lying if you thought this thread would lead to possible divorce.EDIT: OK Acer called itPretty much everybody agreed that the three-rack loan was a stunningly bad idea, beginning with post #2.Really? A lot of us saw theI dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.coming from miles away.
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Really? A lot of us saw theI dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.coming from miles away.
i don't believe the 3 racks is the problem here. there were other things brewing with the mrs.... it was a matter of time/timing. the crazy of angie accelerated these things.Pretty much everybody agreed that the three-rack loan was a stunningly bad idea, beginning with post #2.Really? A lot of us saw theI dunno. Its kind of sad seeing a good guys life crumble before our eyes. Especially since this thread started out so differently.Come on, AR. Now I'm curious to see what happens next.coming from miles away.
Well yeah, I wouldn't have guessed that particular outcome, but that's not the main point. You know things are going to end badly for Oedipus at the very beginning of the play, even if you don't see the eye-gouging coming.My comment more had to do with the fact that this thread started out as him loaning some chick money, to him being in an open marriage, to now what Im assuming is possible divorce. Everyone knew it was a bad idea but youd be lying if you thought this thread would lead to possible divorce.
Gonna have to agree with smilin here. I know as well as anyone how to send the wrong signals. I'm lucky enough to have a couple of ladies who are FWB (one who went back to gAy after meMy main point was a FWB should still be treated more as a friend and less of a girlfriend. My POV is AR's actions are more like a boyfriend than friend. Yes, friends help you move. They don't plan everything, pay for everything while you sit and watch, that's a boyfriend thing. If Lance called and asked him for help with a move, AR would've probably walked out if there wasn't even a truck rented. I could BR wrong. I'm sure you'd argue that a FAB deserves mod attention that a regular friend, I just don't agree since it jumps their classification to dating or being a girlfriend.My apologies. I don't think your point is invalid because you're female. I think you have limited the definition of "friend" in your concept of "friend with benefits" and think it's wrong to do so, particularly when AZ Ron has repeatedly stated that he does these things because he thinks of them as friends. Which makes me think - hey, I know a lot of people who do that, and many of them are female. Maybe it's related in some way. What do you think?I am female. I just hard when I try to make a point and it's ONLY taken as a female point of view. The discussion we had felt like you were picking specific points in the story to make your point versus looking at the entire picture. I'm not or do not feel insulted but it sucks having a valid (or what I feel as valid) point of view dismissed just because I'm female.I thought you were female. I wasn't trying to imply that your answer makes you female, rather the other way around - your being female informs your answer in a lot of different ways, particularly given the socialization of women on this continent. I'm sure many people have a different perspective than I do, and I certainly:a) don't think saying something is the female perspective is insulting; andb) wasn't trying to be insulting to you personally.'iamsmilin said:You know, I've never really had to bail out anyone from jail so this is my persepective. But I would probably drop them off at home if I couldn't hang with them. I dunno, dropping somoene off at a bar after bailing them outta jail seems like a bad idea.'Henry Ford said:Okay. And her perspective is tht she wouldn't buy a buddy she just got out of jail a drink. You consider that the majority position for men, too, then great. I'm wrong in thinking guys help each other move, get each other out of jail, and buy rounds of drinks without expecting sex or a relationship.Otherwise, what she's giving is exactly what you're saying - the female perspective. Which is often different from the male perspective.If that makes me female, well ok.
). AR led with his chin on this one.