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Lori Laughlin & Felicity Huffman BUSTED! (2 Viewers)

glvsav37 said:
Right, because nobody blames Trump/trump supporters for all the world’s problems these days.  :rolleyes:
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The highest profile folks caught up in this are members of the Hollywood elite. For what it’s worth, that’s why I thought the Trump reference was obvious sarcasm. 

 
bigbottom said:
The highest profile folks caught up in this are members of the Hollywood elite. For what it’s worth, that’s why I thought the Trump reference was obvious sarcasm. 
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understandable, but lots of business/CEO's in there too. The 2 actresses are the headlines b/c they are the ones that will generate the most buzz. 

I guess I'm just tired of the (Something bad) = Trump supporters narrative. 

 
glvsav37 said:
understandable, but lots of business/CEO's in there too. The 2 actresses are the headlines b/c they are the ones that will generate the most buzz. 

I guess I'm just tired of the (Something bad) = Trump supporters narrative. 
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I guess I'm just tired of people not understanding sarcasm and context

 
Looks like the scandal is growing:

George Wallace‏Verified account @MrGeorgeWallace 23h23 hours ago

Over the last 18 months I paid over $44,000 in bribes to get my niece Tay-Tay into clown college. I apologize to my fans and I would appreciate privacy during this difficult time.

 
Tom Servo said:
Do people realize there's a :sarcasm: emoji?
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That's like holding up an applause sign.

The post in question was about as obvious as it gets - and it was funny.  What's the chance that a California actress is a Trump supporter?  Those folks live in a couple layered fantasy bubbles.

 
Low profile sports included water polo, sailing and long snapper. These are not high profile, but there have to be many aficionados of each sport, or high school or college teamates, who would notice. This crime had too much exposure to escape notice. 

 
SoBeDad said:
Low profile sports included water polo, sailing and long snapper. These are not high profile, but there have to be many aficionados of each sport, or high school or college teamates, who would notice. This crime had too much exposure to escape notice. 
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There had to have been high level administrators involved.  Everybody knows how many scholarships there are available for each sport.  I wouldn't be surprised if some athletic directors resign here shortly, or have guns pointed in their faces by FBI agents.

 
The daughter that just wanted a college experience without the classes may have just set her parents up for jail time. Alternatively, for far less than $500,000, she could have rented an apartment near campus, had the game day experience, gone to Thursday parties, etc. Without actually having to get into the school. 

 She (and her parents) r smrt.

 
Punxsutawney Phil said:
There had to have been high level administrators involved.  Everybody knows how many scholarships there are available for each sport.  I wouldn't be surprised if some athletic directors resign here shortly, or have guns pointed in their faces by FBI agents.
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As I understand it, these weren't scholarship athletes.  They were full-pay students.  The coaches were simply telling the admissions officers that they wanted special consideration for these kids because they were great water polo/crew/soccer/tennis athletes.

 
bigbottom said:
As I understand it, these weren't scholarship athletes.  They were full-pay students.  The coaches were simply telling the admissions officers that they wanted special consideration for these kids because they were great water polo/crew/soccer/tennis athletes.
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This.

Although I suspect you'll still see some athletic directors resign as they'll be asked why they didn't do a better job overseeing the programs.

 
Sand said:
I'm actually kind of amazed with their combined income they aren't way, way above 8M.  They should be.  
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They just dropped half a mill to get the loser kid into college. Seems pretty clear where a good chunk of the money is going. There's just some things you can't out-earn. And I can't imagine how high the coke budget is about to go to.

 
pollardsvision said:
They just dropped half a mill to get the loser kid into college. Seems pretty clear where a good chunk of the money is going. There's just some things you can't out-earn. And I can't imagine how high the coke budget is about to go to.
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That half million was a drop in the bucket for her potential as an "influencer" or whatever they call those people.  Her dad had a major clothing brand, she already had some sephoria line (whatever that is).  I'm sure her parents had her on the Kardashian path, which could equate to BILLIONS.  

 
The Z Machine said:
I feel that way about college athletics too.  Should be no scholarships or lowered admission standards for that.  Also, colleges shouldn't be in the business of promoting events where the participants are not paid for their efforts.
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I agree and have said so on occasion, only to be shouted down in the name of community, bread and circuses, and school spirit. 

I think our treatment of athletes in industries worth hundreds of millions is criminal. 

 
rockaction said:
I agree and have said so on occasion, only to be shouted down in the name of community, bread and circuses, and school spirit. 

I think our treatment of athletes in industries worth hundreds of millions is criminal. 
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I don't know how this system is legal, but it certainly isn't moral.  If college athletes were not primarily poor and black, we'd have a different story. 

 
Rirruto said:
We've got a chet post in this thread, so we know he's safe. Has anyone heard from Otis? Thoughts and prayers with any FBG rich guy caught up in this investigation.
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I'm no rich guy, especially by FBG standards.  But I am surrounded by them.  Thirteen of the fifty that were charged are SF Bay Area parents, and at least four of them have kids from high schools in my little county of 260,000 people.  It sure seems like this might be a tip-of-the-iceburg type of situation, and there could be more of this to come.  I'm guessing there were some nervous conversations happening at yoga studios, medi spas, and wine bars around here today.

 
SFBayDuck said:
I'm no rich guy, especially by FBG standards.  But I am surrounded by them.  Thirteen of the fifty that were charged are SF Bay Area parents, and at least four of them have kids from high schools in my little county of 260,000 people.  It sure seems like this might be a tip-of-the-iceburg type of situation, and there could be more of this to come.  I'm guessing there were some nervous conversations happening at yoga studios, medi spas, and wine bars around here today.
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Well, yeah.  Isn't Marin one of the richest if not the richest county in the US?  It is beautiful too.

 
Slapdash said:
Well, yeah.  Isn't Marin one of the richest if not the richest county in the US?  It is beautiful too.
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It's up there, if you look at housing costs it has two of the top fifty most expensive zip codes in the country (the Bay Area as a whole has 27 of the 50).  I definitely don't live in either one of the two.

Anyway, as a parent of a high school student in a place like this, this whole story is at the same time fascinating and not even a little bit surprising.

 
For every Billy Mitchell basking in the cheating fame, there is a Steve Wiebe busting his butt trying to do it the right way.  These spoiled brats are taking the spot of hardworking kids that actually have to study & take standardized test.

 
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for what it's worth....this was on a friends FB page today. 

I think a lot of people seriously have no idea how thoroughly the system is rigged. I spent several years as a for-hire writer who couldn’t afford to turn work away. This means I accepted a lot of jobs I feel icky about now, but it also means that I’ve seen firsthand how this all shakes out.

(Important note: There is not a single person on my friends list who I am referring to with any of what I’m about to write. Also, I stopped taking the type of work I'm going to describe years ago. So if I’ve ever helped you with written material, or if I'm currently helping you: this does not apply to you.)

See, getting little ####### McGloatyFace III into Harvard is just the first domino en route to prestige and pedigree. That’s why it’s so important; the first domino starts the chain. The richest of rich parents get him there by donating a library collection or buying a building. The middling rich, like those in today’s story, cheat (and don’t for a single second think the people indicted today are the only ones, because they are not, not, not).

The lowly rich hire people like me to write their kids’ essays and letters, pull together their resumes, and figure out how to make years of abject mediocrity sound good. And they don’t only hire people like me. They also hire special tutors and test prep gurus to teach their kids to hack the tests. They pull strings to get their kids special accommodations they don’t need, so they have more time to get all the math problems done on the SAT. They get interview coaches who teach their kids what to say when they go for their appointment. They lean on connections to get Harvard and Yale take a "second look" at their C+ student with a 980 SAT score. These kids get a complete team, and the face ####### McGloatyFace presents to the Ivy isn’t his own; it’s a composite of all the best expertise his parents’ money could buy.

When ####### McGloatyFace is in school, his parents hire people like me again. Want to know how many papers I’ve written for undergraduate students? Graduate students? I couldn’t even tell you. It’s a higher number than I can remember offhand. Need a magic paper to save your grade in the class you’re failing? Need to save your half-assed thesis? I’ve done it all. I’m a better-than-average writer and I made my clients look good.

All this work goes into making sure ####### McGloatyFace graduates from an Ivy, because graduating from an Ivy—combined with the connections of Mom and/or Dad—means he gets internships at the best companies and firms. It means he gets interviews, even if his GPA is sub-3.0. It means he gets the best jobs when he graduates. He’s still an idiot, but now he’s an idiot earning high-five or low-six figures.

This is when the next dominos start to fall. ####### McGloatyFace’s company is going to get him an executive coach. Because he has the right name and the right degree and the right presentation, so he’s tagged as executive material, and they’re going to start grooming him now so he doesn’t make them look stupid later. The coach is going to teach him how to present himself, what photos to put in his office, what suits to wear and how to accessorize. If ####### is a man, the coach is going to teach him how to open large meetings with a sweet, humanizing story about his family, especially his kids. If ####### is a woman, the coach is going to teach her how to be brusque with a smile and never talk about her family under any circumstances, especially not her kids.

Along with the executive coach, ####### is also going to be assigned a mentor, someone accomplished and probably equally prestigious. The role of the mentor is to help ####### McGloatyFace to meet the right people, form the right connections. The mentor is going to take ####### McGloatyFace to events and make sure he knows all the power players in their city.

The coach, mentor, and senior-ups are going to guide ####### McGloatyFace to volunteer and charitable giving opportunities. Not just any volunteering and charitable giving, but those that are well-aligned to #######’s decided-upon Personal Brand (TM). ####### is going to learn how to give lots of money and make it known, without appearing to brag about it. ####### is also going to get seated on the best non-profit boards in his city. Some of these are competitive. Want to know how I know that? Because they require an essay, resume, and bio. And guess who writes those.

So now ####### is rubbing elbows with even more movers and shakers, and is establishing a high-quality Personal Brand (TM). At this point, ####### has been promoted a couple times and is earning low-mid six figures.

Buckle in, because here’s where lots of dominos start to fall.

At this point, #######’s bio features an impressive school, an impressive job at an impressive company, impressive volunteer positions, impressive philanthropy, impressive Personal Brand (TM). This is enough to earn ####### consideration for a whole host of things most average people have absolutely no awareness of. He’s going to apply for and be named one of his city’s “40 Under 40” and get a spread in a local, glossy magazine*. He’s going to apply for and get a position in his city’s “Up and Coming Young Leaders” program, and be interviewed on TV. He’s going to apply for and win a spot in his city’s “Wealthy People Pretending To Do Good But Really Just Hanging Out With Other Wealthy People” initiative, and get newspaper coverage.

I’ll give you one guess who writes those applications.

(*Note: I'm not ####ting on "40 Under 40." Some folks make it on there for genuine charitable good deed, which is awesome.)

By now #######’s been promoted again. He’s in his 40s, maybe 50s, and is earning high-six figures, and it’s time to go for the jackpot.

####### has now built all the right credentials to apply for a position on a for-profit board. He probably won’t get the first one, and maybe not the second, but he’ll get the third or fourth. How quickly he gets picked up will have a lot to do with how well he’s nurtured his connections and how fondly people remember his parents, who are now elderly or dead. He’s going to link up with a Fortune 500, be named to their board, and pull in a seven-figure paycheck for turning up once per quarter to listen to updates from the CEO and make management decisions.

He’ll need a resume, bio, and compelling personal letter to make this happen. Check, check, check.

####### is now making millions of dollars per year, earning millions more on a board, and, as a loving parent, is guiding his own children through the exact same process.

This is how it works. This is why The Right University is so important. It’s not about the degree. It’s about this entire life path, this entire system of manipulation and prestige, to make sure the children of the uber wealthy become the next generation of the uber wealthy, that they get exclusive opportunities and exclusive consideration.

Every single step along this journey, there are other people clawing for the same opportunities but not getting them. Those people didn’t come from the right parents, or graduate from the right schools. Their applications weren’t as good, because they wrote them themselves, and most people (sorry, y’all, but it’s true) do not write nearly as well as they think they do. Their bios weren’t as perfect, because they didn’t have executive coaches and mentors to help them establish a fine-tuned personal brand. Their ideas weren’t as interesting, because they were working with their own stupid ideas and not the ideas of professional idea-havers.

THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED, YOU GUYS. It is rigged. Maybe you went from lower class to middle class, or lower middle class to upper middle class, and you feel like ####IN A I LOVE AMERICA AND BALD EAGLES AND MERITOCRACY, but it’s all an illusion. Even if you financially make your way into the nouveau riche layer of the upper class, you still won’t be one of the chosen unless you manage to hit some kind of insanely unlikely lottery (Barack and Michelle Obama come to mind), but you’re honestly more likely to get bit by a radioactive spider and start shooting web-#### from your wrists. The upper class is a closed system, thanks but no thanks, no vacancies, don’t let the door hit ya.

I’ve taken jobs from 40-something year old men who handed the telephone to their daddies to talk about how to craft the right impression in their adult child’s “personal” letter. I’ve worked with executive coaches to hash out what jokes to write in order to best illustrate the “good humor” part of someone’s Personal Brand (TM) in a “personal” essay. THAT is how this works.

There’s no such thing as meritocracy.




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Sadly I doubt the parents will face jail time. They'll probably pay a fine and do community service. The regular joe would face a lot more.

 
CurlyNight said:
Sadly I doubt the parents will face jail time. They'll probably pay a fine and do community service. The regular joe would face a lot more.
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Several stories saying now that they face serious jail time.  Many of the parents have already been ousted or have resigned from their jobs.  We're talking resigning as CEO of private equity firms type stuff. Ovah. This has gotten much bigger than I originally thought.  Also the students are all being reviewed.  No matter what they have to leave.  Imagine sitting in a class where everyone is giving you stink eye because everyone knows you didn't deserve to be there.

 
CurlyNight said:
Sadly I doubt the parents will face jail time. They'll probably pay a fine and do community service. The regular joe would face a lot more.
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Judge Smails said:
Several stories saying now that they face serious jail time.  Many of the parents have already been ousted or have resigned from their jobs.  We're talking resigning as CEO of private equity firms type stuff. Ovah. This has gotten much bigger than I originally thought.  Also the students are all being reviewed.  No matter what they have to leave.  Imagine sitting in a class where everyone is giving you stink eye because everyone knows you didn't deserve to be there.
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Lori Loughlin's bond was set at $1mm. I'm not a criminal attorney but that seems like a pretty serious bond for it to just be a slap on the wrist. 

 
rockaction said:
I agree and have said so on occasion, only to be shouted down in the name of community, bread and circuses, and school spirit. 

I think our treatment of athletes in industries worth hundreds of millions is criminal. 
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Argued this for decades only to be shouted down with free room and board bull####.  Sometimes the hilarious "they'll make millions in the pros" argument.  It seems that most people only care to see what they want to see.  It's sickening thy eye way these kids are used.  Burn in hell NCAA. 

 
Buckychudd said:
This.

Although I suspect you'll still see some athletic directors resign as they'll be asked why they didn't do a better job overseeing the programs.
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I refuse to believe USC would stoop to this level.

 
Judge Smails said:
Several stories saying now that they face serious jail time.  Many of the parents have already been ousted or have resigned from their jobs.  We're talking resigning as CEO of private equity firms type stuff. Ovah. This has gotten much bigger than I originally thought.  Also the students are all being reviewed.  No matter what they have to leave.  Imagine sitting in a class where everyone is giving you stink eye because everyone knows you didn't deserve to be there.
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I'm sure this whole bunch of rich white folk will spend a long time in the pen. 

 
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