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lou piniella's an idiot (1 Viewer)

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now, a baseball manager's job isn't rocket science.

they do very little in the way of strategy.

for teaching, they have an entire farm system plus hitting and pitching coaches.

they wear their little baseball uniforms, fill-out lineup cards, and do press conferences (i know that's oversimplification, but compared to other coaches, they do very little).

the most important thing they do is manage players and their confidence.

to most, piniella on thursday is a small issue, but considering that managing players' confidence is about the only answer a manager would have when the "office space bob's" came asking "so, what is it, exactly, that you do around here?", it's a major issue.

on thursday afternoon, piniella publically mentioned that he'd like to switch rotation spots for hill and marquis b/c the pirates kill lefties. the problem was that marquis was battling the flu and likely wouldn't be available anyway. there's not much wrong with making the switch, but you just don't bring it up (publically) unless you are 100% sure you are going to make the switch. with what he did, he may as well have approached rich hill before the game and said, "hey, kid, i really think you're going to get rocked today and i'd like to pull you from the start, but marquis is sick so i have no choice but to start you. good luck"

in the grand scheme of things, not a major issue and hill's a big boy and should've just pitched better, but this is just an example of piniella tanking on his most important job description. when you do little else, just try not to F with your SP's head before his start.

now i understand why the mariners perennially underachieved with arod/griffey/unit.

 
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they do very little in the way of strategy......compared to other coaches, they do very little.
While the focus of your post wasn't dictated on the above I feel entitled to say that couldn't be more false. If Lou had saved those comments for after the game I don't think that would have been wrong, probably shouldn't have said something beforehand but an idiot? I think that's a little over the edge. You want to talk about idiotic lets talk about Bautista for the Pirates' bunt Wednesday.
 
on thursday afternoon, piniella publically mentioned that he'd like to switch rotation spots for hill and marquis b/c the pirates kill lefties. the problem was that marquis was battling the flu and likely wouldn't be available anyway. there's not much wrong with making the switch, but you just don't bring it up (publically) unless you are 100% sure you are going to make the switch. with what he did, he may as well have approached rich hill before the game and said, "hey, kid, i really think you're going to get rocked today and i'd like to pull you from the start, but marquis is sick so i have no choice but to start you. good luck"
That's not what he's saying.Actually using evidence to try and help your team win? Nothing wrong with that.If Rich Hill can't handle being bumped because he'll perform better against another team, he won't make it in the majors anyway. There are too many other pressures in the big leagues that are 100x more threatening than "Let's put you out there against a team you'll dominate instead of one where we can use another pitcher to dominate them".It's a team game. Lou Pinella, though I disagree with him a lot, made the right move here. I think the fact that he's showing he's thinking is a huge benefit to Cubs fans.
 
on thursday afternoon, piniella publically mentioned that he'd like to switch rotation spots for hill and marquis b/c the pirates kill lefties. the problem was that marquis was battling the flu and likely wouldn't be available anyway. there's not much wrong with making the switch, but you just don't bring it up (publically) unless you are 100% sure you are going to make the switch. with what he did, he may as well have approached rich hill before the game and said, "hey, kid, i really think you're going to get rocked today and i'd like to pull you from the start, but marquis is sick so i have no choice but to start you. good luck"
That's not what he's saying.Actually using evidence to try and help your team win? Nothing wrong with that.If Rich Hill can't handle being bumped because he'll perform better against another team, he won't make it in the majors anyway. There are too many other pressures in the big leagues that are 100x more threatening than "Let's put you out there against a team you'll dominate instead of one where we can use another pitcher to dominate them".It's a team game. Lou Pinella, though I disagree with him a lot, made the right move here. I think the fact that he's showing he's thinking is a huge benefit to Cubs fans.
yes, using evidence and trends to try to help your team win is good. that's not what lou did and that's not what this is about.it's about poor handling of players. swapping the rotation spots would've made perfect sense. bringing up the possibility when marquis possibly wouldn't be available anyway serves no one and could get into your guy's head. if there's a chance that you'll have to send your guy out there in an unfavorable matchup and there's a chance that a switch isn't possible, you keep your thoughts to yourself. if you are certain that switching is an option, just make the switch. hill very well might've gotten rocked regardless, but a manager's major responsiblity is managing players emotions, collectively and individually. i wouldn't feel very confident in a manager who can't grasp the concept. there's no reason to throw unnecessary doubt in a pitchers mind.
 
on thursday afternoon, piniella publically mentioned that he'd like to switch rotation spots for hill and marquis b/c the pirates kill lefties. the problem was that marquis was battling the flu and likely wouldn't be available anyway. there's not much wrong with making the switch, but you just don't bring it up (publically) unless you are 100% sure you are going to make the switch. with what he did, he may as well have approached rich hill before the game and said, "hey, kid, i really think you're going to get rocked today and i'd like to pull you from the start, but marquis is sick so i have no choice but to start you. good luck"
That's not what he's saying.Actually using evidence to try and help your team win? Nothing wrong with that.If Rich Hill can't handle being bumped because he'll perform better against another team, he won't make it in the majors anyway. There are too many other pressures in the big leagues that are 100x more threatening than "Let's put you out there against a team you'll dominate instead of one where we can use another pitcher to dominate them".It's a team game. Lou Pinella, though I disagree with him a lot, made the right move here. I think the fact that he's showing he's thinking is a huge benefit to Cubs fans.
yes, using evidence and trends to try to help your team win is good. that's not what lou did and that's not what this is about.it's about poor handling of players. swapping the rotation spots would've made perfect sense. bringing up the possibility when marquis possibly wouldn't be available anyway serves no one and could get into your guy's head. if there's a chance that you'll have to send your guy out there in an unfavorable matchup and there's a chance that a switch isn't possible, you keep your thoughts to yourself. if you are certain that switching is an option, just make the switch. hill very well might've gotten rocked regardless, but a manager's major responsiblity is managing players emotions, collectively and individually. i wouldn't feel very confident in a manager who can't grasp the concept. there's no reason to throw unnecessary doubt in a pitchers mind.
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