Mad Men on AMC (1 Viewer)

[YSR]

Finally got all caught up on the show, in time to watch the finale last night. While the finale slightly underwhelming, I can't think of a better show that's on right now.

 

[Apple Jack]

In the elevator, Harry and Joan discuss Lane's office and we learn that neither of them want it.Then Harry says "So is it true or not?"=============Is he asking if it's true that she slept her way to partner?Is he asking if it's true that Lane was embezzling company funds?Is he asking if Lane crapped in his pants when he hanged himself (as is known to happen) and that's why nobody wants the office?

I thought he was asking if it was true that they were going to be able to get the other floor.

Yep, me too.

Could be any of those options yet I thought it was something else. I thought he was just asking if it was true that she had turned down Lane's office before it was presented to him. Even though he did not want the office he took exception to it being offered to Joan before him.

It was the extra space. Joan made reference to the encounter in the partner meeting saying how she had to play it off like she hit the wrong button or whatever it was.

 

[Marvin]

Finally got all caught up on the show, in time to watch the finale last night. While the finale slightly underwhelming, I can't think of a better show that's on right now.

Because there isn't.

 

[badmojo1006]

Do we know when Season 6 will be on?

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Do we know when Season 6 will be on?

nopeprobaby mid to late March 2013

 

[jdoggydogg]

Don't sleep on Sherlock the BBC miniseries. Downright amazing TV.

Haven't seen it but only seven episodes?

Don't let that hinder you.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Wasn't happy with some of the early episodes, but the season finished strong.

Still don't care about Meghan and I'm looking forward to her being gone.

 

[The_Man]

Great, great season, kind of a letdown on the finale, until the final montage which was awesome.

Things I didn't like

- the whole Pete Campbell/psycho chick story, though it was fun to see him get beat down 2 more times, to follow up on the beating Lane gave him.

- kind of heavy-handed apparitions of Adam Whitman. Quick glances, o.k., dream sequence, a little too much.

- why was Megan's mother back? The stuff was Roger was great, but I could have done without her.

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

Things I liked

- the final montage, particularly the symbolism of Don at the bar ordering an "old-fashioned" and then the ambiguity of the girl's question "Are you alone?"

- the way the Megan screen test reminded me of Don and the Kodak Carousel presentation

- the way Don walked out of the bright light of the commercial shoot into the darkness

- Roger with Megan's mom

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

 

[The Hank]

I got Don Draper:

Don DraperYour steely resolve and artfully-orchestrated personal brand has propelled you to the top. You can be ruthless but rational, and although few know it, a romantic.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Great, great season, kind of a letdown on the finale, until the final montage which was awesome.Things I didn't like - the whole Pete Campbell/psycho chick story, though it was fun to see him get beat down 2 more times, to follow up on the beating Lane gave him.

The story made the point well. The actress from Gilmore Girls was brutal, but fine enough.

- kind of heavy-handed apparitions of Adam Whitman. Quick glances, o.k., dream sequence, a little too much.

Agree 100%. Way creepier/more effective if they'd just left it at two.

- why was Megan's mother back? The stuff was Roger was great, but I could have done without her.

It was Easter, and her husbands an aetist.

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

I could see it.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Has this been discussed?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/apr/25/vincent-kartheiser-mad-men-interview

 

[Barry]

Great, great season, kind of a letdown on the finale, until the final montage which was awesome.Things I didn't like - why was Megan's mother back? The stuff was Roger was great, but I could have done without her.

The bedroom ballerina talk with Megan, and how she handled Don when he came home to find Megan drunk. I like her.

 

[Apple Jack]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

What's the problem with it? Plenty of creative people are known for not bothering to hold back their thoughts on things. It's pretty common, actually.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

What's the problem with it? Plenty of creative people are known for not bothering to hold back their thoughts on things. It's pretty common, actually.

He just hasn't panned out to be the interesting, compelling character I thought he was going to be. Mostly he's just an angry whiner. His last good scene was when he was telling Peggy about being an alien.

 

[Apple Jack]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

What's the problem with it? Plenty of creative people are known for not bothering to hold back their thoughts on things. It's pretty common, actually.

He just hasn't panned out to be the interesting, compelling character I thought he was going to be. Mostly he's just an angry whiner. His last good scene was when he was telling Peggy about being an alien.

There are two more seasons to come. We have no idea what they're going to do with him. They probably don't even know what they're going to do with him. He hasn't been mined at all.

 

[Apple Juice]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

 

[jdoggydogg]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

What's the problem with it? Plenty of creative people are known for not bothering to hold back their thoughts on things. It's pretty common, actually.

Nothing gets a creative type angrier than a stupid client.

 

[YSR]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

Loved this.

 

[Kumerica]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

What's the problem with it? Plenty of creative people are known for not bothering to hold back their thoughts on things. It's pretty common, actually.

Nothing gets a creative type angrier than a stupid client.

As a current Creative Director and former copywriter, I can assure you, Jdoggydogg, that you are absolutely correct. As a copywriter, I thought my clients were all insane and had no qualms about complaining to my Director (never to the clients themselves—I wasn't suicidal). As a CD, I often feel the same way, but have a much better understanding of the big picture/budgets/processes/etc. that go into an account.ETA: I got Don Draper on the quiz.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

Loved this.

I thought it was a little cheesy and self-gratifying .

 

[jwb]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

Loved this.

I thought it was a little cheesy and self-gratifying

Yea, a little over the top. But it worked.

 

[Apple Jack]

Maybe that was an acknowledgment of THE window. Eh? Eh?

 

[Christo]

Great, great season, kind of a letdown on the finale, until the final montage which was awesome.Things I didn't like- why was Megan's mother back? The stuff was Roger was great, but I could have done without her.

I think it was needed just for the short conversation she had with Don about Megan being his responsibility.

 

[Apple Juice]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

Loved this.

I thought it was a little cheesy and self-gratifying .

Self-gratifying, maybe, but I associate cheesy with reaching for a result without earning it. I feel like Mad Men earned that gorgeous shot and it spoke for itself. I'm not into hanging posters on walls, but if I ever did that would be a great one.

 

[Apple Jack]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

Loved this.

I thought it was a little cheesy and self-gratifying .

Self-gratifying, maybe, but I associate cheesy with reaching for a result without earning it. I feel like Mad Men earned that gorgeous shot and it spoke for itself. I'm not into hanging posters on walls, but if I ever did that would be a great one.

Mine would be my avatar.

 

[Apple Juice]

Need more Ginsberg next year. I love the Draper/Ginsberg dynamic.

I was a little disappointed with Don and Peggy's conversation at the theater. When they ran into each other I think I got overly excited.

Looking back on the season, I actually think the finale was the weakest episode, but the shot of Joan, Don, Pete, Roger and Bert looking out the window was so good, and the last scene with Don was so good that I didn't even mind.

Loved this.

I thought it was a little cheesy and self-gratifying .

Self-gratifying, maybe, but I associate cheesy with reaching for a result without earning it. I feel like Mad Men earned that gorgeous shot and it spoke for itself. I'm not into hanging posters on walls, but if I ever did that would be a great one.

Mine would be my avatar.

 

[jdoggydogg]

- Ginsberg freaking out at the client. Really?

And then having a fit with Don. Ginsberg had such promise as a character that it's really disappointing the direction he has gone.

What's the problem with it? Plenty of creative people are known for not bothering to hold back their thoughts on things. It's pretty common, actually.

Nothing gets a creative type angrier than a stupid client.

As a current Creative Director and former copywriter, I can assure you, Jdoggydogg, that you are absolutely correct. As a copywriter, I thought my clients were all insane and had no qualms about complaining to my Director (never to the clients themselves—I wasn't suicidal). As a CD, I often feel the same way, but have a much better understanding of the big picture/budgets/processes/etc. that go into an account.ETA: I got Don Draper on the quiz.

In the early days, I used to get annoyed (internally, not to the clients) about stupid clients because I thought my solution was awesome and they were too stupid to see it. Not that I have my ego more in check, I'm simply annoyed at people that hire experts and then ignore the expert solution. No one tells a brain surgeon how to operate. But every doofus has an opinion about branding.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

 

[Juxtatarot]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

No chance.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

That's commendable? How long have they been married?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

pretty sure he smacked that *$%

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

That's commendable? How long have they been married?

I'm not saying it's commendable, I just find the timing interesting that he obviously has plenty of chances to be adulterous, yet he isn't. Until the very end of the season.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

No chance.

None whatsoever?

 

[jdoggydogg]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

No chance.

Yes chance. I wouldn't assume the needle drops next season the moment this season ended.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

No chance.

None whatsoever?

Let me clarify: I think it's entirely possible that that particular encounter is never referenced. But is there a chance that that scene didn't signify a pretty major change in terms of how Don approaches Megan/fidelity? Very, very slim IMO. I don't think Weiner is going to goof off with the last shot of the entire season.

 

[Billy Bats]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

No chance.

Yes chance. I wouldn't assume the needle drops next season the moment this season ended.

Little chance that it would. I could see next season opening a month or two later and Don and Meghan being separated, that would give us our answer real quick.

 

[Christo]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

That's commendable? How long have they been married?

I'm not saying it's commendable, I just find the timing interesting that he obviously has plenty of chances to be adulterous, yet he isn't. Until the very end of the season.

I think it fits very well with what has gone on. Don's been enamored with Megan since he met her. She is everything that Betty isn't. But he's wanted Megan to play Betty's role of the devoted housewife--while being this different type of person. She let him know that she didn't want to be the wife who's just waiting for him to get home. Her mother told him in her way that Megan's going to be who she's going to be. Peggy told him in her way that people are going to be who they are going to be. It finally hit home with Don. He is who he is--the partially devoted family man who likes a bit on the side.

 

[schlesinj]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

My guess is prior to this episode he thought he had a wife that was independent and that challenge him unlike Betty. When she asked and took his help, he no longer sees her that way.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

That's commendable? How long have they been married?

I'm not saying it's commendable, I just find the timing interesting that he obviously has plenty of chances to be adulterous, yet he isn't. Until the very end of the season.

Certainly.

 

[anakin]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

My guess is prior to this episode he thought he had a wife that was independent and that challenge him unlike Betty. When she asked and took his help, he no longer sees her that way.

This

 

[Christo]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

My guess is prior to this episode he thought he had a wife that was independent and that challenge him unlike Betty. When she asked and took his help, he no longer sees her that way.

This

I don't think that's it at all.

 

[Premier]

Next season will take us into 1968. I expect Don to be cheating. I don't think they take us through another divorce though. I think Meghan will be there for a while.

 

[TobiasFunke]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

My guess is prior to this episode he thought he had a wife that was independent and that challenge him unlike Betty. When she asked and took his help, he no longer sees her that way.

This is exactly how I interpreted it too.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

Why? Because Don likes women when they're servicing him. It's all the other "stuff" that bores him.

Then why was he faithful for the entire time he's been married to Megan?

My guess is prior to this episode he thought he had a wife that was independent and that challenge him unlike Betty. When she asked and took his help, he no longer sees her that way.

Great posting.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So the question is: how did Don answer that last question?

The answer is obvious: yes.The real question is why did he answer yes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next season premiere ignores that scene entirely. It just seemed like a way to leave the audience with a giggle at the end of the season.

No chance.

None whatsoever?

Let me clarify: I think it's entirely possible that that particular encounter is never referenced. But is there a chance that that scene didn't signify a pretty major change in terms of how Don approaches Megan/fidelity? Very, very slim IMO. I don't think Weiner is going to goof off with the last shot of the entire season.

I don't think anyone thought Don was a changed man forever. It's always been a matter of when he will cheat not if. That's why it was funny (at least for me) and not some type of series changing cliffhanger.