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[Walton Goggins]

Does Betty hate her children? She always has this "I'm going to give you a beating" expression on her face when she's talking to her kids. Heck Don is more maternal than her.

She doesn't like ANYONE even herself.

 

[RudiStein]

Does Betty hate her children? She always has this "I'm going to give you a beating" expression on her face when she's talking to her kids. Heck Don is more maternal than her.

She doesn't like ANYONE even herself.

She's a sad, sad little person.My wife and I try to count how many times per episode she treats he kids like intruders.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

Does Betty hate her children? She always has this "I'm going to give you a beating" expression on her face when she's talking to her kids. Heck Don is more maternal than her.

She doesn't like ANYONE even herself.

Yeah...only time she's been remotely nice is to that weird, future serial killer kid who asked for her hair. And I found myself slightly turned on by the bye-bye birdie spinoff ad. A 2009 version with a scantily clad woman would be

 

[Walton Goggins]

Does Betty hate her children? She always has this "I'm going to give you a beating" expression on her face when she's talking to her kids. Heck Don is more maternal than her.

She doesn't like ANYONE even herself.

Yeah...only time she's been remotely nice is to that weird, future serial killer kid who asked for her hair. And I found myself slightly turned on by the bye-bye birdie spinoff ad. A 2009 version with a scantily clad woman would be

She's a great actress...very pretty but how she acts has ZERO sex appeal. She comes across as someone who would be a zero in bed.

 

[Major]

Does Betty hate her children? She always has this "I'm going to give you a beating" expression on her face when she's talking to her kids. Heck Don is more maternal than her.

She doesn't like ANYONE even herself.

Yeah...only time she's been remotely nice is to that weird, future serial killer kid who asked for her hair. And I found myself slightly turned on by the bye-bye birdie spinoff ad. A 2009 version with a scantily clad woman would be

She's a great actress...very pretty but how she acts has ZERO sex appeal. She comes across as someone who would be a zero in bed.

unless you're waiting for the bathroom at a bar, then she's

 

[Righetti]

Draper is the straw that stirs the drink...more of him is needed. I understand they need to develop more characters but they can do that and still have more Draper. Take the other week where they showed so many scenes where they were smoking pot and just talking. You didn't need to have that many scenes IMO. Still love the show and actually like that I don't know where it's going.

it's like an episode of the Sodanos without enough Tony

 

[RudiStein]

Draper is the straw that stirs the drink...more of him is needed. I understand they need to develop more characters but they can do that and still have more Draper. Take the other week where they showed so many scenes where they were smoking pot and just talking. You didn't need to have that many scenes IMO. Still love the show and actually like that I don't know where it's going.

it's like an episode of the Sodanos without enough Tony

Ahhh...Tony Sodano. What a great character.

 

[RudiStein]

Fellas, one of these days...maybe out of boredom, maybe you get a wild hair up your ###, or maybe one of your wise-acre buddies puts you up to it...whatever the reason is you're going to consider challenging Pete Campbell to a Charleston contest.

You might want to strongly reconsider that notion.

Seriously.

Straight up, gansta trippin

 

[RudiStein]

Oh yeah...Joan singing in French? 6:00 to midnight in 2.4 seconds.

 

[Walton Goggins]

No comparison

smoking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjGaRc7r8E&feature=fvw

meh

 

[RudiStein]

No comparison

smoking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjGaRc7r8E&feature=fvw

meh

I still think JJ is absolutely beautiful but unfortunately her character has all the sex appeal of a throw rug. CH is just flat out sexy.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Jesus. Peggy is just awful.

Still no major plotlines to grasp onto here. I could really use a large story arc.

I actually like Peggy. Interesting character and good acting. Must be tough to play someone so socially awkward. That being said, I'd prefer more Joan time. Actually, I'd love a spin-off just about Joan and her life.

I wasn't live in the 60's, but I'd imagine that she's nailing this role. I would assume that as the show keeps going, Peggy will become a lot more comfortable with herself, and you'll start seeing her become a lot more "Joanlike" but in a more professional anner.

She's definitely good for this role. I suspect this casting is a lot like some of the roles in The Sopranos. Take an average actor, put them in a fantastic role, and they thrive.

She's a good actress; had a lead role on Broadway last fall. She just doesn't look like January or Christina. ETA- Her character is in an awkward position -- she doesn't have a peer group. She's caught between the career people, who are all men, and the husband-hunters.

 

[jdoggydogg]

A co-worker made an interesting point about Peggy:

This co-corker knew a lady - they worked together at HP. The lady struggled getting respect from men. So this lady de-sexualized herself. She stopped wearing makeup and made it a point to dress very conservatively. Problem solved.

This is Peggy's conundrum. Peggy wants to be respected. And while Peggy knows that Joan is skilled and world-wise, Peggy does not respect Joan or Joan's willingness to use her sexual powers to achieve workplace status. But now, Peggy is starting to head down that road. Peggy's trying pot, she's sleeping around, and now she has a party girl for a roommate. So Peggy's willingness to experiment and be more free could hurt her biding for respect later on.

 

[Christo]

A co-worker made an interesting point about Peggy:This co-corker knew a lady - they worked together at HP. The lady struggled getting respect from men. So this lady de-sexualized herself. She stopped wearing makeup and made it a point to dress very conservatively. Problem solved. This is Peggy's conundrum. Peggy wants to be respected. And while Peggy knows that Joan is skilled and world-wise, Peggy does not respect Joan or Joan's willingness to use her sexual powers to achieve workplace status. But now, Peggy is starting to head down that road. Peggy's trying pot, she's sleeping around, and now she has a party girl for a roommate. So Peggy's willingness to experiment and be more free could hurt her biding for respect later on.

Peggy did exactly that to get the office. Don recognized her talent and championed her ascendance to that position. I think Peggy knows she's essentially hit the ceiling with respect to promotions. It would be all but impossible for a woman to get to be the head of accounts let alone a partner in the early 60s. So now that Peggy has the promotion she wanted she's recapturing exactly what she gave up to get it-her sexuality.

 

[jdoggydogg]

A co-worker made an interesting point about Peggy:This co-corker knew a lady - they worked together at HP. The lady struggled getting respect from men. So this lady de-sexualized herself. She stopped wearing makeup and made it a point to dress very conservatively. Problem solved. This is Peggy's conundrum. Peggy wants to be respected. And while Peggy knows that Joan is skilled and world-wise, Peggy does not respect Joan or Joan's willingness to use her sexual powers to achieve workplace status. But now, Peggy is starting to head down that road. Peggy's trying pot, she's sleeping around, and now she has a party girl for a roommate. So Peggy's willingness to experiment and be more free could hurt her biding for respect later on.

Peggy did exactly that to get the office. Don recognized her talent and championed her ascendance to that position. I think Peggy knows she's essentially hit the ceiling with respect to promotions. It would be all but impossible for a woman to get to be the head of accounts let alone a partner in the early 60s. So now that Peggy has the promotion she wanted she's recapturing exactly what she gave up to get it-her sexuality.

Well said.

 

[Raider Nation]

Why did Dennis (the prison guard) not want to acknowledge Don in the hallway when he was pushing his wife in the wheelchair?

Right before the conversation about how the Negroes are buying all of the Admiral TVs.

 

[Major]

Why did Dennis (the prison guard) not want to acknowledge Don in the hallway when he was pushing his wife in the wheelchair?

I couldn't figure that out either...maybe Draper had sex with his wife

 

[Daywalker]

Why did Dennis (the prison guard) not want to acknowledge Don in the hallway when he was pushing his wife in the wheelchair?Right before the conversation about how the Negroes are buying all of the Admiral TVs.

Only thing I can think of is that maybe he was a little bit embarrassed opening up to Don so much.

 

[Christo]

Why did Dennis (the prison guard) not want to acknowledge Don in the hallway when he was pushing his wife in the wheelchair?Right before the conversation about how the Negroes are buying all of the Admiral TVs.

Only thing I can think of is that maybe he was a little bit embarrassed opening up to Don so much.

He had a moment of weakness when they were alone together that he wants to forget.Once again Roger steals the show with a single line: "If it isn't Martin Luther King!"

 

[jdoggydogg]

Why did Dennis (the prison guard) not want to acknowledge Don in the hallway when he was pushing his wife in the wheelchair?Right before the conversation about how the Negroes are buying all of the Admiral TVs.

Only thing I can think of is that maybe he was a little bit embarrassed opening up to Don so much.

He had a moment of weakness when they were alone together that he wants to forget.Once again Roger steals the show with a single line: "If it isn't Martin Luther King!"

My favorite Roger line: "Let me put this into accounting terms for you: do you know how many hand jobs I'm going to have to give to make this right?"

 

[RudiStein]

Why did Dennis (the prison guard) not want to acknowledge Don in the hallway when he was pushing his wife in the wheelchair?Right before the conversation about how the Negroes are buying all of the Admiral TVs.

Only thing I can think of is that maybe he was a little bit embarrassed opening up to Don so much.

He had a moment of weakness when they were alone together that he wants to forget.Once again Roger steals the show with a single line: "If it isn't Martin Luther King!"

to both

 

[RudiStein]

Somebody find stills or a clip of Betty wearing that sundress in her dream/hallucination.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Best episode yet. How long until Don gives teacher lady teh juice?

 

[RudiStein]

Best episode yet. How long until Don gives teacher lady teh juice?

I'd like to show her my Longfellow.

 

[Raider Nation]

Best episode yet.

I never went to film school, but I believe that would be called a "dark" episode.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Best episode yet.

I never went to film school, but I believe that would be called a "dark" episode.

Definitely a solid episode all around.

 

[Raider Nation]

Best episode yet.

I never went to film school, but I believe that would be called a "dark" episode.

Definitely a solid episode all around.

Man, she did NOT want to have that baby. I was afraid she was going to kill him or herself at the end.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Best episode yet.

I never went to film school, but I believe that would be called a "dark" episode.

Definitely a solid episode all around.

Man, she did NOT want to have that baby. I was afraid she was going to kill him or herself at the end.

I know, right? I really thought she was going to kill the baby. Metal.

 

[RudiStein]

Best episode yet.

I never went to film school, but I believe that would be called a "dark" episode.

Pun intended?

 

[Raider Nation]

Best episode yet.

I never went to film school, but I believe that would be called a "dark" episode.

Pun intended?

No, but I now wish it was.Too bad Betty was in labor. The Don we know and love would normally have offered to meet the teacher to "talk about her issues"...

 

[Tiger Fan]

Can someone unpack the scene where Gene is mopping up blood and the black guy was at the table?

 

[Walton Goggins]

Can someone unpack the scene where Gene is mopping up blood and the black guy was at the table?

civil rightslots of blood while giving birth

 

[Christo]

Can someone unpack the scene where Gene is mopping up blood and the black guy was at the table?

I think it was a result of them getting a little too cute by mixing the psychological effects of Gene's death to historical events and with foreshadowing.First, we have Sally acting out at school. Obviously, this was triggered by Gene's death. Then we have the teacher talking about how she had discussed Medgar Evers' death with Sally. I'm assuming that was supposed to be Evers at the table. So Gene could have been mopping up both his and Evers' blood. And since it was Betty's dream it also hinted (wrongly-as many things did) that something was going to go wrong with the birth.

 

[RudiStein]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

 

[jdoggydogg]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Can someone unpack the scene where Gene is mopping up blood and the black guy was at the table?

I think it was a result of them getting a little too cute by mixing the psychological effects of Gene's death to historical events and with foreshadowing.First, we have Sally acting out at school. Obviously, this was triggered by Gene's death. Then we have the teacher talking about how she had discussed Medgar Evers' death with Sally. I'm assuming that was supposed to be Evers at the table. So Gene could have been mopping up both his and Evers' blood. And since it was Betty's dream it also hinted (wrongly-as many things did) that something was going to go wrong with the birth.

Thanks....didn't pick up on the Medgar Evers thing earlier in the episode b/c I didn't know who he was....makes some sense now.....although, still a weird mix IMO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medgar_Evers

 

[The Kansas Comet]

Somebody find stills or a clip of Betty wearing that sundress in her dream/hallucination.

God yes.

Best episode yet. How long until Don gives teacher lady teh juice?

I think the teacher is the girl from the Twix commercials where the guy invites her back to his filthy apartment.

 

[Major]

Somebody find stills or a clip of Betty wearing that sundress in her dream/hallucination.

God yes.

Best episode yet. How long until Don gives teacher lady teh juice?

I think the teacher is the girl from the Twix commercials where the guy invites her back to his filthy apartment.

I've been robbed wish I would've thought of that line on a few drunken evenings.Draper will definitely give teach teh juice hence not telling Betty who called.

 

[RudiStein]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

I'm trying to remember a good use of a dream sequence. I think it might just be a pet peeve but I think 95% of them are a waste.

 

[jdoggydogg]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

I'm trying to remember a good use of a dream sequence. I think it might just be a pet peeve but I think 95% of them are a waste.

Same here. I liken them to drug sequences. Movies and TV can't possibly recreate the feeling of dreaming or being high, so the net effect is dull.

 

[RudiStein]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

I'm trying to remember a good use of a dream sequence. I think it might just be a pet peeve but I think 95% of them are a waste.

Same here. I liken them to drug sequences. Movies and TV can't possibly recreate the feeling of dreaming or being high, so the net effect is dull.

I guess they can work if there is a surreal or paranormal aspect to the film/show. Something like 'Twin Peaks' or 'The Stand' (not that The Stand was all that great but the dreams were a big part of the plot).

 

[jdoggydogg]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

I'm trying to remember a good use of a dream sequence. I think it might just be a pet peeve but I think 95% of them are a waste.

Same here. I liken them to drug sequences. Movies and TV can't possibly recreate the feeling of dreaming or being high, so the net effect is dull.

I guess they can work if there is a surreal or paranormal aspect to the film/show. Something like 'Twin Peaks' or 'The Stand' (not that The Stand was all that great but the dreams were a big part of the plot).

Twin Peaks was almost like one long dream. Now that you mention Lynch, I think he simulates dream states better than anyone. Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive are both like one long nightmare.

 

[Major]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

I'm trying to remember a good use of a dream sequence. I think it might just be a pet peeve but I think 95% of them are a waste.

Same here. I liken them to drug sequences. Movies and TV can't possibly recreate the feeling of dreaming or being high, so the net effect is dull.

Generally speaking this is true but The Sopranos knocked it out of the park when Chris shot H at the carnival....loved that scene with him and the dog.

 

[jdoggydogg]

For the record I absolutely hate when writers use dream sequences as a foreshadowing device. I've never understood why this has become acceptable in literature.

I can remember dream sequences being used well in TV and film before. But at this point, it's such a cliche, you'd better knock it out of the park.

I'm trying to remember a good use of a dream sequence. I think it might just be a pet peeve but I think 95% of them are a waste.

Same here. I liken them to drug sequences. Movies and TV can't possibly recreate the feeling of dreaming or being high, so the net effect is dull.

Generally speaking this is true but The Sopranos knocked it out of the park when Chris shot H at the carnival....loved that scene with him and the dog.

Best drug sequences I ever saw filmed were in Requiem for a Dream.

 

[Major]

Best drug sequences I ever saw filmed were in Requiem for a Dream.

That film immediately jumped to my mind as well but I stuck to television given the Mad Men thread. My favorite dream/drug sequences in a movie were probably from The Big Lebowski.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Best drug sequences I ever saw filmed were in Requiem for a Dream.

Trainspotting

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

I didn't get much out of this episode.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Best episode yet.

Really? I thought it may have been the worst episode ever.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I didn't really like this episode. Although Campbell and the negro on the elevator was priceless.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Guess Admiral TV should have listened to Campbell