I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.Weird
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Major
Footballguy
I had a girl ask me to do this once :weird:I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.Weird
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
I saw the same thing. Also he's in a funk and needs something to snap him back.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.Weird
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Had a few who wanted me to do that to them. Got strange when she kept saying harderI had a girl ask me to do this once :weird:I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.
jwb
Footballguy
I mean more in a metaphore / foreshadowing sense, I guessAgreed on the self-loathing. But I don't think it was a snap out of it thing. The prostitute obviously had been to his place before and she had slapped him beforeI think it's part of the self-loathing / dark period that he seems to be going through. He lost his family / got divorced, which in 1963 was a big, big deal. People are feeling pity for him, wondering about his social life, etc. It's a bad time for him, and he can't be happy with himself. He's also the "star" of the new agency, and is somewhat reluctant to grab that role.Really, thinking about it more, I kind of take it as a "snap out of it" thing, which, by the end of the show, seems to possibly be the case.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.Weird
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I'm a little disappointed that he seems to be off for good. They still have American Tobacco as their biggest client though, so no chance for a re-hire until that changes.
Chiwawa
Footballguy
I was wondering about Cosgrove last night. Hopefully he'll come back. I thought he was a good supporting character.Well, why should I bother using spoiler tags then if you're going to just drop his name. Bang-up work, ace.
Chiwawa
Footballguy
Interview with Bryan Batt. Seems to be unknown even to him as to whether he'll be back:http://www.dailycomet.com/article/20100725...2?p=1&tc=pg
Major
Footballguy
I was wondering about Cosgrove last night. Hopefully he'll come back. I thought he was a good supporting character.Well, why should I bother using spoiler tags then if you're going to just drop his name. Bang-up work, ace.That was one hell of a spoiler. Sorry to ruin your world, champ.
Chiwawa
Footballguy
Well, why should I bother using spoiler tags then if you're going to just drop his name. Bang-up work, ace.That was one hell of a spoiler. Sorry to ruin your world, champ.Some people may or may not want to be surprised. I don't mind knowing, but others may feel different. But pretty lame to just ignore the spoiler tag, you could've even said "him" instead of the guy's name.
Major
Footballguy
Stop posting all these spoilers
Chiwawa
Footballguy
Just admit that you're clumsy, and you didn't mean to give it away.Stop posting all these spoilers
McJose
Footballguy
Wet Dream alias?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Well, why should I bother using spoiler tags then if you're going to just drop his name. Bang-up work, ace.That was one hell of a spoiler. Sorry to ruin your world, champ.If you are going to reply about the subject matter within spoiler tags... use spoiler tags also. Be considerate.
McJose
Footballguy
I thought that too for a minute.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
my wife actually said the same thing at first. she thought that he had started the car, though I hadn't recalled that.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Great episode.
jamny
Footballguy
Yeah, I thought it was a very solid return for the series. I was hoping they wouldn't jump ahead and show the beginnings of the new company but I have no complaints about where they are now. Looking forward to a great season.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
I guess since Peggy showed up at Don's door with her "fiancee", that Duck is gone for good...
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
The wife didn't care for the season premiere, but I loved it.
McJose
Footballguy
Divorce
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I know, right?
Celph Titled
Footballguy
Watched it twice for real, and had it on as background for the third time.
Sepinwall is really good, as is Tim Goodman with the SF Chron. I also think the write-ups over at the Onion AV Club are generally very strong.
Sepinwall is really good, as is Tim Goodman with the SF Chron. I also think the write-ups over at the Onion AV Club are generally very strong.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
It would be nice if they offered some explanation at some point in stead of just disappearing him.badmojo1006 said:
McJose
Footballguy
Major
Footballguy
I have a feeling we'll run into Duck and friends down the road. Would be nice if they weave them in and out at times when they're competing with Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce for business.
Sundays Rule
Footballguy
Just finishing up season one. Way behind on this show I know. Ill be dvring this season and will jump into it once im caught up. Great show, love the feel of it. Make me want to smoke and make sexist statements.
Go DC Yourself
Footballguy
If they are going to use the same child actors as the kids, they don't much choice but to make leaps forward in time.jamny said:
badmojo1006
Footballguy
I don't know if she will get back with Don, but her relationship with Henry is already on shaky groundSped through S3 last weekend and now S4E1 is behind me
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
The Onion AV Club's Noel Murray, Keith Phipps, and Scott Tobias discuss Mad Men's thrilling, troubling fourth-season premiere.
identikit
Footballguy
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Yea I think you're right. Probably more likely that she runs back to him but he decides he likes banging a different hot chick every night. Looks like their daughter (forgot her name) will be the driving force in the break-up. She's become quite a contributor ever since the relationship with her grandfather in S3.I don't know if she will get back with Don, but her relationship with Henry is already on shaky groundSped through S3 last weekend and now S4E1 is behind meHate watching shows one a weekwww.nopatience.comDo we have an over/under on when Betty re-aligns with Don?
Wooderson
Fight The Power
He's always banged other chicks. He also liked having the front of a happy home life.I know its been said but Don and Tony Soprano are almost the same character. It shows even more now after the break up.Yea I think you're right. Probably more likely that she runs back to him but he decides he likes banging a different hot chick every night. Looks like their daughter (forgot her name) will be the driving force in the break-up. She's become quite a contributor ever since the relationship with her grandfather in S3.I don't know if she will get back with Don, but her relationship with Henry is already on shaky groundSped through S3 last weekend and now S4E1 is behind me
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Don could also has been abused as a child. This has been hinted at during a past episode. It's not uncommon for people that are abused to seek that out, just take a look at the porn industry.Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.Weird
Please See Mine
Footballguy
I don't think that there is any "could" to it. I would put the odds at 100%.Don could also has been abused as a child. This has been hinted at during a past episode. It's not uncommon for people that are abused to seek that out, just take a look at the porn industry.Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.
Weird
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
One more thing to add to this is that I don't think Don particularly likes himself right now. I think we saw Don the happiest when he was able to be **** Whitman with Draper's former wife in California. He seemed to let down his guard and seemed comfortable being able to be himself. This whole pretend game that he is playing does not sit well with him deep down and is another reason why he would be seeking this kind of abuse out from a prostitute.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
But this has always been the case to some degree, and I think we're led to believe that this fetish is a somewhat new thing for him. I don't recall him asking for this kind of treatment from any of his side pieces when he was with Betty.I took it as knowing that he had done wrong by his wife and feeling a need to be punished for his previous sexual transgressions by absorbing punishment in the sack, as if that might help him with his guilt or absolve him or something. JMO.Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.Weird
The_Hunchback
Footballguy
At the same time he's still in control. She goes to take the bra off and he tells he not yet and her response is I know what you like to which he replies then do it. He might be receiving the "punishment" but he is still controlling the situation because he's told her what to do and when she doesn't tells her to do it.But this has always been the case to some degree, and I think we're led to believe that this fetish is a somewhat new thing for him. I don't recall him asking for this kind of treatment from any of his side pieces when he was with Betty.I took it as knowing that he had done wrong by his wife and feeling a need to be punished for his previous sexual transgressions by absorbing punishment in the sack, as if that might help him with his guilt or absolve him or something. JMO.Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.
No way. First, she says I know what you like. Second, people don't just start liking to get abused in their late 30s/early 40s. Sexual fetishes spring from childhood experiences.But this has always been the case to some degree, and I think we're led to believe that this fetish is a somewhat new thing for him. I don't recall him asking for this kind of treatment from any of his side pieces when he was with Betty.I took it as knowing that he had done wrong by his wife and feeling a need to be punished for his previous sexual transgressions by absorbing punishment in the sack, as if that might help him with his guilt or absolve him or something. JMO.Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.
Weird
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Good points. But from a storytelling perspective, it would be really pretty cheap to unveil a sexual fetish of a character now, after spending three seasons in the bedroom with him. Seems like the kind of easy/artificial move the Mad Men writers wouldn't go for. Instead, it seemed to me like they were trying to show us that he had acquired a new taste, and we were meant to ask what about the recent events had triggered it.As far as her saying "I know what you like," I took that to mean she had been visiting him since the divorce and his move downtown. Same reasoning as above.No way. First, she says I know what you like. Second, people don't just start liking to get abused in their late 30s/early 40s. Sexual fetishes spring from childhood experiences.But this has always been the case to some degree, and I think we're led to believe that this fetish is a somewhat new thing for him. I don't recall him asking for this kind of treatment from any of his side pieces when he was with Betty.I took it as knowing that he had done wrong by his wife and feeling a need to be punished for his previous sexual transgressions by absorbing punishment in the sack, as if that might help him with his guilt or absolve him or something. JMO.Agreed - seems to be an S&M type of thing. Don does all the abusing during the day to colleagues, clients, etc., so getting abused is probably a nice change of pace for him.I took that as him liking a woman who abuses him. Without Betty to do it psychologically he needed someone to do it physically.What was up with Don and the prostitute? Him wanting her to slap him.
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This goes back to my original point that he didn't need the abuse to be physical when he was with Betty.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I can definitely see that. Not sure if I would necessarily consider her behavior in pasts seasons emotionally or mentally abusive, but it's definitely a reasonable interpretation. I'll keep that one in mind.
scoobygang
Footballguy
Don tied up Barrett's wife and one character has already said that she heard about Don's reputation for liking kinky stuff from an editor at Random House. None of this is really dropped in or new.I've only seen the episode the one time, but Slate's TV club is describing the call girl as a brunette. Am I crazy, or was she a redhead? Because she reminded me of Joan.
zamboni
Footballguy
I was thinking the same.Maybe a reach, but perhaps that is intentional. And might there be something going on later in the season between Don and Joan? They've always had some chemistry. :X
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I liked their take on Don's last presentation to the bathing suit company. It seems obvious once they mentioned it, but it didn't occur to me that Draper knew he was going to fire that client the moment he walked into the room to show them that presentation. I am a designer, and I have turned down jobs because the client had no vision or guts. Love it!
