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John Bender said:
packersfan said:
I think the primary problem with this episode was its timing. If this was in the middle of Season 3 or 4 people might yawn but just move onto the next week. But with so few episodes left I think most of us want episodes that are going to significantly push the storyline toward its climax. Unless Peggy plans on turning into a lesbian I'm not sure what happened in this episode that was new. Maybe when the series is done we'll look back at this and see things we're not seeing now but right now all I see with this episode is more attention paid to storylines we've already seen.
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But that is Mad Men....there are no big moments that feel like a climax. The story is going to end as it began and has been every since IMO. It's about the characters, not the things that happen to the characters for me anyway.

I get your point though - I'm not expecting or looking for anything "big" to happen.
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I think the big deal / thing already happened. Burt died, Don got his job back, Pete/Joan got life changing money, etc. There's no big business moves left to make. Do we need to see closure on Roger, or can we just be content that he's in the twilight of a fairly charmed, Peter-Panish life?

This season, so far, they took care of Ken and Harry (yep, he's a TV jerk), and Henry/Betty are kind of done as well. And, finally, Megan.

Really, all we need to see is "something" with Peggy, the Don/Sally dynamic, and Don alone.

 
I guess I am in the minority but I thought last night (and lasts week to an extent) was horrible. They are shoving metaphors at us every which way and the Diana storyline is feels godaweful and forced. I think all we can take from that episode is that it tied up Megans storyline and we will not see her again in a major capacity. The Don meets a random chick, thinks he knows her, falls in love with her hard luck story is just laughable and cheap.

 
jwb said:
John Bender said:
packersfan said:
I think the primary problem with this episode was its timing. If this was in the middle of Season 3 or 4 people might yawn but just move onto the next week. But with so few episodes left I think most of us want episodes that are going to significantly push the storyline toward its climax. Unless Peggy plans on turning into a lesbian I'm not sure what happened in this episode that was new. Maybe when the series is done we'll look back at this and see things we're not seeing now but right now all I see with this episode is more attention paid to storylines we've already seen.
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But that is Mad Men....there are no big moments that feel like a climax. The story is going to end as it began and has been every since IMO. It's about the characters, not the things that happen to the characters for me anyway.

I get your point though - I'm not expecting or looking for anything "big" to happen.
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I think the big deal / thing already happened. Burt died, Don got his job back, Pete/Joan got life changing money, etc. There's no big business moves left to make. Do we need to see closure on Roger, or can we just be content that he's in the twilight of a fairly charmed, Peter-Panish life?

This season, so far, they took care of Ken and Harry (yep, he's a TV jerk), and Henry/Betty are kind of done as well. And, finally, Megan.

Really, all we need to see is "something" with Peggy, the Don/Sally dynamic, and Don alone.
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I hope that is not it for Betty.She can be annoying at times, but she was really hot last night :wub:

 
pantherclub said:
I guess I am in the minority but I thought last night (and lasts week to an extent) was horrible. They are shoving metaphors at us every which way and the Diana storyline is feels godaweful and forced. I think all we can take from that episode is that it tied up Megans storyline and we will not see her again in a major capacity. The Don meets a random chick, thinks he knows her, falls in love with her hard luck story is just laughable and cheap.
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I can recall two other times when we thought Megan was done...hope the third time is a charm...

 
Capella said:
bigmarc27 said:
At this point, how old is Peggy and Pete's kid? I'm actually a little amazed they never developed that story more.
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I am too. It's weird how they just punted that. Had promise.
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You'd think just in passing Pete would ask "what's up with that kid" just to have Peggy respond "I don't know, I haven't visited my mom in years!"

I even found it odd when her one boyfriend wanted to have dinner with her and her parents, the kid was never mentioned at all. It was kind of the main storyline going through season 1 and they just dropped it.

 
bigmarc27 said:
Capella said:
bigmarc27 said:
At this point, how old is Peggy and Pete's kid? I'm actually a little amazed they never developed that story more.
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I am too. It's weird how they just punted that. Had promise.
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You'd think just in passing Pete would ask "what's up with that kid" just to have Peggy respond "I don't know, I haven't visited my mom in years!"

I even found it odd when her one boyfriend wanted to have dinner with her and her parents, the kid was never mentioned at all. It was kind of the main storyline going through season 1 and they just dropped it.
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Uh...the kid was given up for adoption.

 
I kind of feel like we're moving toward a finale whose final scene will show Don Draper as a lumberjack. If that happens, I only hope that Michael C. Hall has a cameo.

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
bigmarc27 said:
Capella said:
bigmarc27 said:
At this point, how old is Peggy and Pete's kid? I'm actually a little amazed they never developed that story more.
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I am too. It's weird how they just punted that. Had promise.
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You'd think just in passing Pete would ask "what's up with that kid" just to have Peggy respond "I don't know, I haven't visited my mom in years!"

I even found it odd when her one boyfriend wanted to have dinner with her and her parents, the kid was never mentioned at all. It was kind of the main storyline going through season 1 and they just dropped it.
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Uh...the kid was given up for adoption.
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Really? I totally missed that, I thought it was established in the season with Tom Hanks kid that the son was living with her mother and sister?

 
bigmarc27 said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
bigmarc27 said:
Capella said:
bigmarc27 said:
At this point, how old is Peggy and Pete's kid? I'm actually a little amazed they never developed that story more.
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I am too. It's weird how they just punted that. Had promise.
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You'd think just in passing Pete would ask "what's up with that kid" just to have Peggy respond "I don't know, I haven't visited my mom in years!"

I even found it odd when her one boyfriend wanted to have dinner with her and her parents, the kid was never mentioned at all. It was kind of the main storyline going through season 1 and they just dropped it.
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Uh...the kid was given up for adoption.
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Really? I totally missed that, I thought it was established in the season with Tom Hanks kid that the son was living with her mother and sister?
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No. The baby was given up for adoption. The baby you are talking about was her sister's baby.

 
Jack White said:
If you haven't read Mark Lisanti's Mad Men Power Rankings, you're missing out.
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Not ranked: Joan Holloway; Kenny Cosgrove; Johnny Mathis; Henry Francis; Gene Draper; Bobby Draper no. 5; Sally Draper’s whereabouts; Meredith; Caroline; Marie-France; Overdeveloped Elaine the supportive nurse; “Ellen”; the blender; some distant Rockefeller; chocolate shakes; the movers; the New York Jets; Life cereal; NAC; the Manson brothers; Nick at the diner; Architectural Digest; six dollars; Don’s big spoon; the coats in the closet; San Francisco; the flu; Burt Peterson; Peter Pan (the peanut butter); the negatives; the paper in Sarasota; Guernica; the stained carpet; the theoretical threat of extramarital syphilis; the records; the mover; no. 3, top row; the torn-up plane ticket; the NYC Guidebook to Being Poisoned by the City; Mance Rayder; Keith Olbermann’s childhood.

:lol:

 
packersfan said:
Weiner's fascination with Megan as a character is rather odd. He's now given her essentially three goodbye scenes to Don. He could've cut the cord on that relationship after Don went to LA to try to get her to stop wigging out, then the phone call was really the perfect culmination but now he brings her back one more time. Makes me wonder if we haven't seen the last of her yet.

The only purpose I thought Megan served in last night's episode was to show how much of a letch Harry has become. I didn't think she added anything more to Don's story that we didn't already know. Even her mom banging Roger wasn't a new development.
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It's like the end of The Return of The King.

 
Jack White said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Jack White said:
Ray Karpis said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Jack White said:
If you haven't read Mark Lisanti's Mad Men Power Rankings, you're missing out.
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5.5/10
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2.5/10

Truly awful.
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Well, when you come up with something as great as the Don Draper Fingerbang Threat Level, feel free to post it here.
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Peggy Olsen Theater Handjob DefCon
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Where's the rest of it?
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I'll finish it up right after I write the Glen Bishop Toilet Cam Risk Assesment

 
It does feel strange that they'd come back for 6 more episodes without much a story to tell. Last episode just felt like filler and that Diana storyline is awful.

 
Hang 10 said:
It does feel strange that they'd come back for 6 more episodes without much a story to tell. Last episode just felt like filler and that Diana storyline is awful.
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I feel the same. It's just...depressing.

A Haggared looking woman working in a drab, old restaurant and living in a tiny, dirty apartment. I hate it.

 
Jobber said:
Hang 10 said:
It does feel strange that they'd come back for 6 more episodes without much a story to tell. Last episode just felt like filler and that Diana storyline is awful.
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I feel the same. It's just...depressing.

A Haggared looking woman working in a drab, old restaurant and living in a tiny, dirty apartment. I hate it.
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Probably doesn't help that I don't care much for the actress either. She seems like a buzzkill ever time I see her.

 
Jobber said:
Hang 10 said:
It does feel strange that they'd come back for 6 more episodes without much a story to tell. Last episode just felt like filler and that Diana storyline is awful.
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I feel the same. It's just...depressing.

A Haggared looking woman working in a drab, old restaurant and living in a tiny, dirty apartment. I hate it.
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Well, he's an aging liar now living in an empty apartment.

 
I get that you're a fanboy of the show and I enjoy it to, but what's happened recently that hasn't been done over and over? I watch the show more for the characters now than the actual story which seems to have mailed it in awhile ago. The typical season arc was Don doing dumb ####, big business possibilities pop up, things go south, then a merger or some kind of office restructuring saves everyone for another season.

The characters are great. The acting is great, the story at this point is just above average.

 
Let's just count the rehashed storylines in the past episode.

1. The waitress ####s Don and then rejects him

2. Harry is a creep to Megan

3. Megan is leaving Don again...for sure this time...we hope.

4. Megan's mom ####s Roger

What's new this season? Roger's mustache?

 
Hang 10 said:
Let's just count the rehashed storylines in the past episode.

1. The waitress ####s Don and then rejects him

2. Harry is a creep to Megan

3. Megan is leaving Don again...for sure this time...we hope.

4. Megan's mom ####s Roger

What's new this season? Roger's mustache?
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1. Who else has dumped Don?

2. This time Harry was a creep to Megan's face AND actually thought he had a chance.

3. Megan isn't leaving Don again. They're already split.

4. The first time Marie and Roger got it on nobody knew except for Sally. This time (since they got caught) it impacts Megan.

 
1. The waitress ####ed him and rejected him in the season premiere.

2. The Harry scene was funny but it really was just more of the same.

3. This is at least the 3rd time where her character could have been dumped but some reason she was back to get a check or something. Wasn't the phone call from Cali enough?

4. Who gives a crap what impacts Megan? Her arc ended last year...probably before that actually.

 
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Hang 10 said:
1. The waitress ####ed him and rejected him in the season premiere.

2. The Harry scene was funny but it really was just more of the same.

3. This is at least the 3rd time where her character could have been dumped but some reason she was back to get a check or something. Wasn't the phone call from Cali enough?

4. Who gives a crap what impacts Megan? Her arc ended last year...probably before that actually.
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1. Different circumstances. They didn't have a relationship in the premiere.

2. More of the same what? How many times has Harry offered Megan a seat on the casting couch before? We know Harry is a slimy but this is a new low.

3. You think the whole thing with Don giving Megan the $$$ check was him dumping her? They were already split.

4. Did Megan kill your dog or something?

 
They were in a relationship? What was the difference? A couple of nights and a bed to lay on this time?

Anyway, who cares? I'm not trying to convince you to unlike something. I just found the episode boring and am just getting the sense that these final episodes aren't building to much. I hope I'm wrong and it gets better though because in the end I really have enjoyed the show.

 
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