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Capella said:
packersfan said:
I guess I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was much stronger than last week. I still think Sally and Peggy hold keys to whatever Don's fate will be on the show so I was frustrated to see him arguing with both of them, especially Sally who I think he's made great strides with this season. But Sally did have him pegged. Don was totally digging the teen harlot's attention.

I thought Peggy was off the mark, though. I didn't think Don was "in a mood." He just has no concept what to do with his life now and was trying to find inspiration anywhere he could. Peggy obviously wasn't aware he was using her answers as a way to try and figure this all out but I didn't think he was belittling her either.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed at how each new time we see Glen he's a million times creepier than the last time we saw him.

Betty's reactions to young boys she finds attractive never fails to crack me up. Sally had her pegged too.

This was a great Sally episode. Hopefully this isn't the last time we see her.

I agree Roger and Pete have been under-utilized so far but if peripheral characters are getting concluding acts of some kind to their story I have to think Roger and Pete have their own storylines coming at some point. Joan got hers last night.

Don's growing sense of isolation has been a constant theme since Season 1 but it couldn't be stronger than it is now. Literally shut out of his home at the end.
My concern is that Don doesn't have a fate on this show.
Why should he? My ideal ending would be him and Roger picking up some stewardesses at a bar.
Nah. I mean, I kind of saw the sopranos that way but 10 years later I feel like we are owed some kind of a conclusion. It doesn't have to beat you over the head, but he should finish the book. The whole "this is just a peek into their lives" cop out is bull####. These are fictional people. We're not peeking into anything. Conclude the story.
I can't imagine any sort of definitive conclusion that would make sense. Give it all up and move to a commune? Die? How many real people's lives do you know that actually have an arc? Don's arc is more oscillating waves than arc. As are most of us. He's pretty ####ed up, and he's also supremely talented. He falls down, he pulls himself out of the hole, he falls down again, he moves up a little higher, he gets kicked down a few rungs.

Maybe he quits the ad business? But whatever he did after that would be pretty interesting too. I can't imagine anyone who's even half-watched this show is going to expect "fireworks" in the finale.

 
Capella said:
packersfan said:
I guess I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was much stronger than last week. I still think Sally and Peggy hold keys to whatever Don's fate will be on the show so I was frustrated to see him arguing with both of them, especially Sally who I think he's made great strides with this season. But Sally did have him pegged. Don was totally digging the teen harlot's attention.

I thought Peggy was off the mark, though. I didn't think Don was "in a mood." He just has no concept what to do with his life now and was trying to find inspiration anywhere he could. Peggy obviously wasn't aware he was using her answers as a way to try and figure this all out but I didn't think he was belittling her either.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed at how each new time we see Glen he's a million times creepier than the last time we saw him.

Betty's reactions to young boys she finds attractive never fails to crack me up. Sally had her pegged too.

This was a great Sally episode. Hopefully this isn't the last time we see her.

I agree Roger and Pete have been under-utilized so far but if peripheral characters are getting concluding acts of some kind to their story I have to think Roger and Pete have their own storylines coming at some point. Joan got hers last night.

Don's growing sense of isolation has been a constant theme since Season 1 but it couldn't be stronger than it is now. Literally shut out of his home at the end.
My concern is that Don doesn't have a fate on this show.
Why should he? My ideal ending would be him and Roger picking up some stewardesses at a bar.
Nah. I mean, I kind of saw the sopranos that way but 10 years later I feel like we are owed some kind of a conclusion. It doesn't have to beat you over the head, but he should finish the book. The whole "this is just a peek into their lives" cop out is bull####. These are fictional people. We're not peeking into anything. Conclude the story.
I can't imagine any sort of definitive conclusion that would make sense. Give it all up and move to a commune? Die? How many real people's lives do you know that actually have an arc? Don's arc is more oscillating waves than arc. As are most of us. He's pretty ####ed up, and he's also supremely talented. He falls down, he pulls himself out of the hole, he falls down again, he moves up a little higher, he gets kicked down a few rungs.

Maybe he quits the ad business? But whatever he did after that would be pretty interesting too. I can't imagine anyone who's even half-watched this show is going to expect "fireworks" in the finale.
Definitely don't need or even want fireworks. This isn't breaking bad. And he doesn't have to die either. I don't even know what I want. I just hope the show doesn't end with the camera panning away from Don at the end of an episode deep in thought for the 50th time in the series.

(It will)

 
So the low expectation crowd now is hoping we don't get a conclusion to the show? I guess that's a full proof way of not being disappointed.

 
Capella said:
packersfan said:
I guess I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was much stronger than last week. I still think Sally and Peggy hold keys to whatever Don's fate will be on the show so I was frustrated to see him arguing with both of them, especially Sally who I think he's made great strides with this season. But Sally did have him pegged. Don was totally digging the teen harlot's attention.

I thought Peggy was off the mark, though. I didn't think Don was "in a mood." He just has no concept what to do with his life now and was trying to find inspiration anywhere he could. Peggy obviously wasn't aware he was using her answers as a way to try and figure this all out but I didn't think he was belittling her either.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed at how each new time we see Glen he's a million times creepier than the last time we saw him.

Betty's reactions to young boys she finds attractive never fails to crack me up. Sally had her pegged too.

This was a great Sally episode. Hopefully this isn't the last time we see her.

I agree Roger and Pete have been under-utilized so far but if peripheral characters are getting concluding acts of some kind to their story I have to think Roger and Pete have their own storylines coming at some point. Joan got hers last night.

Don's growing sense of isolation has been a constant theme since Season 1 but it couldn't be stronger than it is now. Literally shut out of his home at the end.
My concern is that Don doesn't have a fate on this show.
Why should he? My ideal ending would be him and Roger picking up some stewardesses at a bar.
Nah. I mean, I kind of saw the sopranos that way but 10 years later I feel like we are owed some kind of a conclusion. It doesn't have to beat you over the head, but he should finish the book. The whole "this is just a peek into their lives" cop out is bull####. These are fictional people. We're not peeking into anything. Conclude the story.
I can't imagine any sort of definitive conclusion that would make sense. Give it all up and move to a commune? Die? How many real people's lives do you know that actually have an arc? Don's arc is more oscillating waves than arc. As are most of us. He's pretty ####ed up, and he's also supremely talented. He falls down, he pulls himself out of the hole, he falls down again, he moves up a little higher, he gets kicked down a few rungs.

Maybe he quits the ad business? But whatever he did after that would be pretty interesting too. I can't imagine anyone who's even half-watched this show is going to expect "fireworks" in the finale.
Why does it have to be either no ending or a fireworks ending? You're misconstruing what the pro-ending crowd is saying. I don't care about fireworks, I don't need Don to go rob a bank, shoot himself, blow up the office, any of that garbage. The show is a story about a guy who took another's identity to reinvent himself. It's an interesting character. To your point about "how many real peoples lives have story arcs" I would say quite a few. They're not as interesting as Don and thus they're not on TV but they absolutely exist.

What I desire in an ending - resolution to Don's family life: Does his relationship with Sally hit a point of understanding or are indications given of future problems. Does he come to grips with his past/childhood. That's a huge portion of the show, finish it. I also want resolution to his work life: does he realize he's full of #### and move on? Does he remember what if anything in the ad game made him happy to begin with? Does he move on and let Peggy take his role (I actually see them setting this up).

No fireworks, no death, no shock, just closure.

It's a story - beginning, middle, end.

 
I doubt this happens anyway, but there's no way you will be happy if the ending is just him resigning and giving his role to Peggy; and having closure with Sally.

 
didn't they all have to sign 5 year contracts? Part of the allure of buying the agency was getting Don. Don't think he's going anywhere.

 
The thing is that it's not just about the finale. The disappointing part is that these last episodes should feel like we're moving to some kind of resolution (whatever it may be). Any ending will seem tacked on the way this season is playing out.

 
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The thing is that it's not just about the finale. The disappointing part is that these last episodes should feel like we're moving to some kind of resolution (whatever it may be). Any ending will seem tacked on the way this season is playing out.
That would be so out of character for this show. It's always been disjointed, and even the "big" things (like buyouts and mergers) are fairly minor.

I think the best we can hope for is a cut to a mid-80's ad agency called Draper, Olsen and Campbell, with Don in a Roger-esque role.

 
Capella said:
packersfan said:
I guess I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was much stronger than last week. I still think Sally and Peggy hold keys to whatever Don's fate will be on the show so I was frustrated to see him arguing with both of them, especially Sally who I think he's made great strides with this season. But Sally did have him pegged. Don was totally digging the teen harlot's attention.

I thought Peggy was off the mark, though. I didn't think Don was "in a mood." He just has no concept what to do with his life now and was trying to find inspiration anywhere he could. Peggy obviously wasn't aware he was using her answers as a way to try and figure this all out but I didn't think he was belittling her either.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed at how each new time we see Glen he's a million times creepier than the last time we saw him.

Betty's reactions to young boys she finds attractive never fails to crack me up. Sally had her pegged too.

This was a great Sally episode. Hopefully this isn't the last time we see her.

I agree Roger and Pete have been under-utilized so far but if peripheral characters are getting concluding acts of some kind to their story I have to think Roger and Pete have their own storylines coming at some point. Joan got hers last night.

Don's growing sense of isolation has been a constant theme since Season 1 but it couldn't be stronger than it is now. Literally shut out of his home at the end.
My concern is that Don doesn't have a fate on this show.
Why should he? My ideal ending would be him and Roger picking up some stewardesses at a bar.
Nah. I mean, I kind of saw the sopranos that way but 10 years later I feel like we are owed some kind of a conclusion. It doesn't have to beat you over the head, but he should finish the book. The whole "this is just a peek into their lives" cop out is bull####. These are fictional people. We're not peeking into anything. Conclude the story.
I can't imagine any sort of definitive conclusion that would make sense. Give it all up and move to a commune? Die? How many real people's lives do you know that actually have an arc? Don's arc is more oscillating waves than arc. As are most of us. He's pretty ####ed up, and he's also supremely talented. He falls down, he pulls himself out of the hole, he falls down again, he moves up a little higher, he gets kicked down a few rungs.

Maybe he quits the ad business? But whatever he did after that would be pretty interesting too. I can't imagine anyone who's even half-watched this show is going to expect "fireworks" in the finale.
Good Posting, Good Posting Judge.

 
Capella said:
packersfan said:
I guess I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was much stronger than last week. I still think Sally and Peggy hold keys to whatever Don's fate will be on the show so I was frustrated to see him arguing with both of them, especially Sally who I think he's made great strides with this season. But Sally did have him pegged. Don was totally digging the teen harlot's attention.

I thought Peggy was off the mark, though. I didn't think Don was "in a mood." He just has no concept what to do with his life now and was trying to find inspiration anywhere he could. Peggy obviously wasn't aware he was using her answers as a way to try and figure this all out but I didn't think he was belittling her either.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed at how each new time we see Glen he's a million times creepier than the last time we saw him.

Betty's reactions to young boys she finds attractive never fails to crack me up. Sally had her pegged too.

This was a great Sally episode. Hopefully this isn't the last time we see her.

I agree Roger and Pete have been under-utilized so far but if peripheral characters are getting concluding acts of some kind to their story I have to think Roger and Pete have their own storylines coming at some point. Joan got hers last night.

Don's growing sense of isolation has been a constant theme since Season 1 but it couldn't be stronger than it is now. Literally shut out of his home at the end.
My concern is that Don doesn't have a fate on this show.
Why should he? My ideal ending would be him and Roger picking up some stewardesses at a bar.
Nah. I mean, I kind of saw the sopranos that way but 10 years later I feel like we are owed some kind of a conclusion. It doesn't have to beat you over the head, but he should finish the book. The whole "this is just a peek into their lives" cop out is bull####. These are fictional people. We're not peeking into anything. Conclude the story.
I can't imagine any sort of definitive conclusion that would make sense. Give it all up and move to a commune? Die? How many real people's lives do you know that actually have an arc? Don's arc is more oscillating waves than arc. As are most of us. He's pretty ####ed up, and he's also supremely talented. He falls down, he pulls himself out of the hole, he falls down again, he moves up a little higher, he gets kicked down a few rungs.

Maybe he quits the ad business? But whatever he did after that would be pretty interesting too. I can't imagine anyone who's even half-watched this show is going to expect "fireworks" in the finale.
Good Posting, Good Posting Judge.
He knows.
 
The thing is that it's not just about the finale. The disappointing part is that these last episodes should feel like we're moving to some kind of resolution (whatever it may be). Any ending will seem tacked on the way this season is playing out.
That would be so out of character for this show. It's always been disjointed, and even the "big" things (like buyouts and mergers) are fairly minor.

I think the best we can hope for is a cut to a mid-80's ad agency called Draper, Olsen and Campbell, with Don in a Roger-esque role.
I'm not so sure that's always been the case with this show. Hell, even the end of 7a seemed to lead to the buyout and Bert's death. It's almost as if that was the real finale and this is just some meandering epilogue.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
I get the feeling you haven't read half the posts in here.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
I get the feeling you haven't read half the posts in here.
Why?

For years in this thread there's been some people always complaining that nothing is happening. It's pretty standard. And "some" means just that, some of you.

:shrug:

 
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I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
You say that as if that wouldn't be totally awesome.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
:lmao:

Personally that seems a little extreme for a show like Mad Men but I guess I'd prefer that to no ending at all.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
I get the feeling you haven't read half the posts in here.
Why?For years in this thread there's been some people always complaining that nothing is happening. It's pretty standard. And "some" means just that, some of you.

:shrug:
I never had a problem with the pace of the show - it's been great storytelling. I do have a problem investing in a story for 7 years with no semblance of closure. It's a disservice to people who invested time into the characters and their stories.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
I get the feeling you haven't read half the posts in here.
Why?For years in this thread there's been some people always complaining that nothing is happening. It's pretty standard. And "some" means just that, some of you.

:shrug:
I never had a problem with the pace of the show - it's been great storytelling. I do have a problem investing in a story for 7 years with no semblance of closure. It's a disservice to people who invested time into the characters and their stories.
Settle down.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
I get the feeling you haven't read half the posts in here.
Why?For years in this thread there's been some people always complaining that nothing is happening. It's pretty standard. And "some" means just that, some of you.

:shrug:
I never had a problem with the pace of the show - it's been great storytelling. I do have a problem investing in a story for 7 years with no semblance of closure. It's a disservice to people who invested time into the characters and their stories.
I never said you did. I wasn't singling you or anyone out.

Maybe "American Pickers" is more your speed.

 
I tend to think the show is going to end with a pitch for a huge new account. Harkening back to Carousel, Don recaptures the magic briefly and makes a moving, nostalgic pitch. I can see little snippets from the past seasons fade in and out as he makes the pitch. Maybe Weiner will leave us with the feeling you have when Don is at his best in a board room. Forget the guy's weaknesses and failures, here is where this character can really connect with people...even if in a make-believe kinda way. If the theme is that Don is incapable of change, this would fit in that storyline, but would wrap up the show with Don on a momentary high, rather than continuing on the downward spiral.

:tinfoilhat:

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
I get the feeling you haven't read half the posts in here.
Why?For years in this thread there's been some people always complaining that nothing is happening. It's pretty standard. And "some" means just that, some of you.

:shrug:
I never had a problem with the pace of the show - it's been great storytelling. I do have a problem investing in a story for 7 years with no semblance of closure. It's a disservice to people who invested time into the characters and their stories.
I never said you did. I wasn't singling you or anyone out.Maybe "American Pickers" is more your speed.
How is "And "some" means just that, some of you." not singling people out? I get that you're trolling but at least be consistent.

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
It would be awesome if something happened in the final show and Don had to change his identity again.

My gut tells me that the show will end with Don taking back his original name so he can finally move forward in life instead of repeating the same mistakes over and over.

The last episode was about several characters revealing exactly who they are.... Joan, Betty, Glen... Peggy and Sally are moving to that final reveal.

We all love Roger because he's always been the one who's been transparent throughout the show. He's never given a ####.

 
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I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Thanks for the constructive help. I should have known the Mad Men thread would be like chum for the most pompus blowhards on the board.

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
I have no idea what is happening at this point, I might have missed a season along the way. I'm watching this season for Pete's sideburns and the finale, nothing else.

 
I get the feeling some of you would only be satisfied by the entire firm being held hostage by Russian terrorists during the company Christmas party only to be foiled and killed off by Don turned into John McClain.
It would be awesome if something happened in the final show and Don had to change his identity again.

My gut tells me that the show will end with Don taking back his original name so he can finally move forward in life instead of repeating the same mistakes over and over.

The last episode was about several characters revealing exactly who they are.... Joan, Betty, Glen... Peggy and Sally are moving to that final reveal.

We all love Roger because he's always been the one who's been transparent throughout the show. He's never given a ####.
This wouldn't be a bad ending. Maybe he introduces himself to a new woman as **** Whitman?

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Thanks for the constructive help. I should have known the Mad Men thread would be like chum for the most pompus blowhards on the board.
Anytime.

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Thanks for the constructive help. I should have known the Mad Men thread would be like chum for the most pompus blowhards on the board.
Anytime.
:hifive:

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Is the wiki page a summary of the show Mad Men or the books from which the show is derived?

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Is the wiki page a summary of the show Mad Men or the books from which the show is derived?
They passed the books two seasons ago. Plus, they never introduced Clem, and Peggy wasn't "accidentally" killed after she threatened to tell Trudy about her and Pete's kid.

 
I do think flash-forwarding is a good way of showing closure or putting a bow on it or whatever without being "inorganic" or forced. This season's finale of Girls did this pretty well. One quick scene at the end that was like six months later, fairly inconsequential on its own, but it kind of shows you where things ended up.

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Thanks for the constructive help. I should have known the Mad Men thread would be like chum for the most pompus blowhards on the board.
And that's different from every other thread, how, exactly?

 
I've had to avoid this thread for years as I've been watching on Netflix and always a season behind. This season has left me confused at the conclusion of each episode. There is always a scene or two (or the whole episode) where I don't undstand what is happening. I feel like I need to go back and read this thread to act as Cliff Notes, but at 116 pages, I don't think that would be very efficient.
1. Do not use this thread to try to figure out scenes you didn't get or understand.

2. The Mad Men wiki has a lot of good info.

3. I'M SURE THERE'S AN EPISODE OF 'NASHVILLE' ON OUT THERE FOR YOU.
Thanks for the constructive help. I should have known the Mad Men thread would be like chum for the most pompus blowhards on the board.
And that's different from every other thread, how, exactly?
You guys are mean.

 
I do think flash-forwarding is a good way of showing closure or putting a bow on it or whatever without being "inorganic" or forced. This season's finale of Girls did this pretty well. One quick scene at the end that was like six months later, fairly inconsequential on its own, but it kind of shows you where things ended up.
Six Feet Under did that well. It was appropriate in that case, though, because the show was about death.

 

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