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Mile High said:
Just got a 100 plus pages booklet on local and state issues to vote on. This is one of the reasons I like vote by mail. Now I can be a more informed voter on these issues as I can now research what the hell they want.
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This is the single largest benefit I see of voting by mail.  Ours wasn't a book this time...it was in 2018 for local things though and I was able to look up all the things on the ballot and educate myself on them.  It was freakin' awesome.  

 
The Commish said:
Mile High said:
Just got a 100 plus pages booklet on local and state issues to vote on. This is one of the reasons I like vote by mail. Now I can be a more informed voter on these issues as I can now research what the hell they want.
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This is the single largest benefit I see of voting by mail.  Ours wasn't a book this time...it was in 2018 for local things though and I was able to look up all the things on the ballot and educate myself on them.  It was freakin' awesome.  
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Yeah those are great. Available online in NYC, I've been using them for years. One time I went to a primary election thinking I didn't really need to look at a voting guide and it was pretty frustrating because I had no idea how to vote on several candidates/issues.

I wonder if at least part of the reason Americans on the whole are so disengaged and turnout is embarrassingly low because people have had a similar kind of experience.  I feel powerful when I vote: I get the sense a lot of people feel the opposite. But part of the reason I geek out about civic duty is I know I am making informed choices.

 
Florida mail in ballots are allowed to be counted beginning 22 days before the election.  I think it was @Joe Bryant that was asking in this thread or another about when states start counting mail in ballots.  Here's a link

 
Donald J. Trump

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Breaking News: 50,000 OHIO VOTERS getting WRONG ABSENTEE BALLOTS. Out of control. A Rigged Election!!!

Isn't Ohio a red state with Republicans in charge? 

 
Mile High said:
Donald J. Trump

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Breaking News: 50,000 OHIO VOTERS getting WRONG ABSENTEE BALLOTS. Out of control. A Rigged Election!!!

Isn't Ohio a red state with Republicans in charge? 
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Don't know...but what is with "wrong ballots"?  What was "wrong" about them?

 
When I read the story about the Ohio ballot error, it’s so obvious that it isn’t a rigging of the election. Trump shouldn’t get away with saying this stuff without political consequences.
 

Besides, Franklin Country is one of the only counties in Ohio going blue in 2016 with Clinton getting 60% of the vote.  If people there ended up not voting due to getting the wrong ballot, it would actually help Trump.

 
It's weird that our resident GOPers aren't in here ranting and raving about the "harvesting" that's already started in California.  Is that because D Nunes was crystal clear in his comments several months ago that they WOULD be "harvesting" ballots since it was "legal" in California?

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I personally don't care if people are dumb enough to drop off ballots in illegal boxes to have them nullified.  That's their choice, but this is certain to impact the GOP in a bad way in California.  I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic they used to determine this was a good idea.

 
The Commish said:
It's weird that our resident GOPers aren't in here ranting and raving about the "harvesting" that's already started in California.  Is that because D Nunes was crystal clear in his comments several months ago that they WOULD be "harvesting" ballots since it was "legal" in California?

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I personally don't care if people are dumb enough to drop off ballots in illegal boxes to have them nullified.  That's their choice, but this is certain to impact the GOP in a bad way in California.  I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic they used to determine this was a good idea.
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Just another step so they can manufacture fraud to complain about?

 
Miami-Dade's early voting starts next Monday. My oldest daughter and I will go to one of over 20 early voting sites in a county of just under 3 million residents. Each site employs several people and has a drop box for VBM. 

In Texas, the GOP is worried about fraud at the drop boxes, so each county can have only one drop box for VBM, even Harris county with almost 5 million residents. Is fraud more likely at drop boxes than when using USPS? 

 
SoBeDad said:
Miami-Dade's early voting starts next Monday. My oldest daughter and I will go to one of over 20 early voting sites in a county of just under 3 million residents. Each site employs several people and has a drop box for VBM. 

In Texas, the GOP is worried about fraud at the drop boxes, so each county can have only one drop box for VBM, even Harris county with almost 5 million residents. Is fraud more likely at drop boxes than when using USPS? 
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Of course not....the "fraud" shtick has run it's course.  People see it for what it is.  I'll wager a guess that well over 80% of the "fraud" reported from this election will come from GOPers dishonestly reporting facts while the other 20% comes from GOPers actually committing the fraud, like what's going on in California right now.

 
The Commish said:
It's weird that our resident GOPers aren't in here ranting and raving about the "harvesting" that's already started in California.  Is that because D Nunes was crystal clear in his comments several months ago that they WOULD be "harvesting" ballots since it was "legal" in California?

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I personally don't care if people are dumb enough to drop off ballots in illegal boxes to have them nullified.  That's their choice, but this is certain to impact the GOP in a bad way in California.  I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic they used to determine this was a good idea.
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Can't they also get rid of Democrat votes using this?

 
gianmarco said:
Can't they also get rid of Democrat votes using this?
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:shrug:

I don't know if they are dumb enough to mark the ballot envelopes in a way that this can be determined.  Given the placement of these boxes and the heightened sense of awareness in Democrats about Trump's quest to sabotage the system, I would question any democrat dropping their ballot off in a site like this, but there might be some.  And if the GOP response is to just collect them and get rid of them (and there's no identifier one way or the other on the envelope) they'd be taking a chance.  There are far more GOPers that would be using these things than Dems it seems.  But, again, if you're dumb enough to drop your ballot at one of these, you sort of deserve what you get regardless of party.  

 
The Commish said:
Mile High said:
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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3h

Breaking News: 50,000 OHIO VOTERS getting WRONG ABSENTEE BALLOTS. Out of control. A Rigged Election!!!

Isn't Ohio a red state with Republicans in charge? 
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Don't know...but what is with "wrong ballots"?  What was "wrong" about them?
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Came back to this...thanks for the reminder.  When I read the drivel from Trump above, I assumed they screwed up the national portion of the ballot.  You'd think I'd have learned my lesson by now when Trump is the source.  Looks like this would have impacted the local portion....rigged election indeed.  :lol:  

The mistake here was rather obvious.  Pretty good foreshadowing of what we'll see on election day...mark it down.

 
Early voting starts here today...I will be waiting out the first rush today, may make my way over there tomorrow and see how busy.

 
The Commish said:
It's weird that our resident GOPers aren't in here ranting and raving about the "harvesting" that's already started in California.  Is that because D Nunes was crystal clear in his comments several months ago that they WOULD be "harvesting" ballots since it was "legal" in California?

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I personally don't care if people are dumb enough to drop off ballots in illegal boxes to have them nullified.  That's their choice, but this is certain to impact the GOP in a bad way in California.  I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic they used to determine this was a good idea.
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hey, if you're gonna claim that the election is rigged without any evidence, sometimes you just have to do it yourself!

 
McBokonon said:
Great video and following thread about the voting and counting process in Arizona.

It’s possible we’ll have 80-90% of votes counted when polls close on election night. It’s absolutely crazy that every state doesn’t do it this way.

We might be 48th in education but Arizona is kicking your butts in running an election!
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Congrats AZ and please don't screw it up...the more successful examples there are the better our odds of doing this in my state someday.

 
Two big actions by the Supreme Court today. They have rejected Republican requests to stop Pennsylvania and North Carolina from extending their mail-ballot deadlines.

That means that PA will allow ballots to arrive as late as November 6th, and NC will allow ballots to arrive as late as November 12th.

(The Court has indicated that they're willing to revisit at least the PA case after the election, so it's still possible that they could retroactively nullify any late-arriving ballots.)

 
Maybe this is a stupid question,  but why in the world can't people get their ballots in on time?

I'm assuming everyone who wants one has one by now.  Is that wrong?

 
TLEF316 said:
Maybe this is a stupid question,  but why in the world can't people get their ballots in on time?

I'm assuming everyone who wants one has one by now.  Is that wrong?
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I know right? I'm seeing ads here in Colorado. It's to late to trust the mail at this point. They are saying drop at a drop box or vote in person.

 
TLEF316 said:
Maybe this is a stupid question,  but why in the world can't people get their ballots in on time?

I'm assuming everyone who wants one has one by now.  Is that wrong?
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:goodposting:

The ONLY way I can see an issue is if a state broadcasts to their electorate something that isn't on the books.  If your laws say they have to be there by Nov 3 and you keep telling everyone you can mail them in until Nov 10 (hypothetical) then that's on the state and I can see why people would be late.

However, at this point, if you want your vote to count you should be taking your ballots to drop off boxes or elections offices IN PERSON.  I wouldn't be relying on the mail and/or this administration at this point.

 
TLEF316 said:
Maybe this is a stupid question,  but why in the world can't people get their ballots in on time?

I'm assuming everyone who wants one has one by now.  Is that wrong?
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What if there are delays in getting your ballot through the mail?  My neighbor requested his weeks ago and just got it this week.  He will drop it off in an elections board drop box instead of by return mail.

 
The Z Machine said:
What if there are delays in getting your ballot through the mail?  My neighbor requested his weeks ago and just got it this week.  He will drop it off in an elections board drop box instead of by return mail.
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I mean...."weeks ago" is pretty vague. If it was 8 weeks ago....yeah, that sucks. But he STILL has time to find a drop box and not have to worry about getting it in by election day. (although it would certainly be nice if we could just drop it in the mail and KNOW that it will get in on time and be counted)

If it was TWO weeks ago.....that's kinda on him.  You gotta know what's going on in the world and plan ahead. In that case, I dont feel bad that he has to go find a box somewhere.

I guess my point is that it will be VERY frustrating if we dont know who the President is 4 weeks from now due to a combination of people sending ballots in at the very last minute and (what I sadly feel are) the inevitable legal challenges in some of the swing states. 

I'm as big a procrastinator as anyone(and I live in a state where my Presidential vote wouldn't matter anyway), but if you life in a swing state and you vote, I KINDA feel like its your responsibility (might even say duty) to make sure your vote is in (if you're voting by mail) with PLENTY of time to spare. 

Hard to feel bad for Joe from Michigan if he drops his vote in his mailbox on Monday morning.

 
I think it was about 4 weeks from application for ballot to arrival in his mailbox.  Split about evenly between processing at the board of elections and transport via postal service.

I applied 3-4 weeks before he did.  Still took 4+ weeks from application to getting the ballot.  I too dropped mine off in a drop box.  I wanted it as close to the Board of Elections as possible.

 
TLEF316 said:
Maybe this is a stupid question,  but why in the world can't people get their ballots in on time?
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Probably the same reason why some voters find it impossible to get a photo ID, and why some voters are too physically weak to punch all the way through a punch-card ballot.  Some people just can't navigate basic life tasks that you and I take for granted.  (But for some reason we're supposed to deeply value their voice in governing the rest of us).

 
The Z Machine said:
I think it was about 4 weeks from application for ballot to arrival in his mailbox.  Split about evenly between processing at the board of elections and transport via postal service.

I applied 3-4 weeks before he did.  Still took 4+ weeks from application to getting the ballot.  I too dropped mine off in a drop box.  I wanted it as close to the Board of Elections as possible.
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That's a pretty long time,  I guess. But given what's going on in the world, I'm not at all surprised.

But at the end of the day, everyone knew that voting by mail was going to be a more popular and practical option this year.  So if its something you care about, you should have planned way in advance.

In my previous job, I worked a lot with our offices overseas. I was responsible for helping them write and service large multi-national clients by handling the US portion of the business (which is often the most important piece and requires special knowledge of the US market to handle). Often times, a 6 or even 7 figure global opportunity would be heavily reliant on the US policies (even if they were only a small percentage of the overall deal $$) Not gonna act like I have the most important job in the world, but these were large deals that can make or break an individual person's year (and in rare cases, an entire offices')

These overseas offices knew about these opportunities months and months in advance. (sometimes years if its something they'd pursued in the past) They knew there was a US component, they knew where to go to get that US component handled and they knew that it wasn't something that can be easily turned around in a day or 2. (we were CONSTANTLY doing presentations and sending out communication stressing the need for lead time and certain pieces of information) Despite that....several times a month, these so called "professionals" would come to us in a panic with something that "had to be done" in 2 days.

My question was always the same....."If its so important that is HAS to be done by Monday....why am I just seeing it today". And the answer was almost always "we forgot".

Must not be that important to you then :shrug:

I want every legitimate vote counted and I understand that there are sometimes circumstances beyond your control. But I just dont see why we (potentially) need to leave the entire country in limbo for another week + just because some people (not all cases, but I'm sure some) were just too lazy to check a few boxes and drop something in the mail (or better, a drop box) 2 weeks ago. If getting your vote in and counted is that important to you, you would have made sure it happened.

 
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TLEF316 said:
Maybe this is a stupid question,  but why in the world can't people get their ballots in on time?

I'm assuming everyone who wants one has one by now.  Is that wrong?
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TN was still accepting requests for mail-in ballots two days ago (7 days before election day). With USPS working the way it is, I see no possible way those ballots get delivered to the voters in time for the voters to mail them back in time. They have to be back by 5 pm election day or they get pitched. No dropboxes, either. Can't hand-deliver them to the election office either, it has to be mailed. And if you requested one you can't vote in person, even if you never received your mail-in ballot. Well, technically, a provisional ballot can be cast but just having the rules set up like that will probably discourage some people from participating.

I suspect a lot of the late requests here are COVID-related...sick or quarantined people trying to not spread it, and healthy people who thought they would feel comfortable voting in-person now changing their mind because our case count is blowing up.

 
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