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Making A Murderer Poll (1 Viewer)

Steve Avery - Where do you stand after watching the documentary?

  • I think he did it and the police did not plant evidence

    Votes: 6 4.7%

  • I think he did it but I also believe the police framed him by planting evidence

    Votes: 47 37.0%

  • I don't think he did it and the police framed him to avoid the lawsuit payments

    Votes: 60 47.2%

  • Yeah

    Votes: 14 11.0%
  • Total voters
    127
I'm a little bit of both B and C. I'm not so sure he didn't do it, but I feel more sure that the cops planted evidence.

 
I voted B because I couldn't middle B&C. But the important part for me would be that the existence of the police planting evidence, if I was on the jury, would have resulting in enough reasonable doubt to vote not guilty. So for me, a vote for B is a vote for NG.

 
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Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.
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Like I said, I don't feel confident enough in saying he's totally innocent. But I do feel confident in saying the police planted evidence and got a false confession.

 
MattFancy said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.
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Like I said, I don't feel confident enough in saying he's totally innocent. But I do feel confident in saying the police planted evidence and got a false confession.
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I dont think between B and C is odd at all. Im 99% sure evidence was planted. Im 50/50 on whether or not he did it.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
MattFancy said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.
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Like I said, I don't feel confident enough in saying he's totally innocent. But I do feel confident in saying the police planted evidence and got a false confession.
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I dont think between B and C is odd at all. Im 99% sure evidence was planted. Im 50/50 on whether or not he did it.
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If anything, I would expect most to be torn between B and C. I wouldn't be shocked if he really did it and I would be more shocked if there was proof there was no evidence planted by the police.

 
I'm 100% behind the fact that the police planted evidence. The fact that they also failed to follow up on any other suspect makes Steven look the guiltiest of the bunch. If I have to take Steven Avery vs the field, I'm taking the field. To pick a single name vs Steven Avery... I have to go Avery though.

Start a poll on Branden Dassey and see if its not 100%. I can't see anyone thinking he is guilty.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.
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I think it is very easy to have watched the documentary, and be unclear in your mind as to whether Avery killed her or not.

 
Ned Ryerson said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and

have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but

to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and

not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.
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I think it is very easy to have watched the documentary, and be unclear in your mind as to whether Avery killed her or not.
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I get that but I'm just asking for an opinion. I dont have certainty if he killed her or not but I lean towards no. It wouldn't shock me to find out he did it although I would be shocked to find out the police didn't plant evidence.

I thought the fact that he is spending most of his time researching the case and his options to this day (really after all legal options are pretty much exhausted) to be a really strong argument that he is innocent.

 
My opinion doesn't apply to any of your options. I am not sure if Avery murdered the girl, but I feel sure that the police planted evidence.

 
simey said:
My opinion doesn't apply to any of your options. I am not sure if Avery murdered the girl, but I feel sure that the police planted evidence.
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The Yeah option is open for interpretation so perhaps you could go that route

 
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I just can't get past the idea that they said he had her tied up to the bed, sexually assaulted her, beat her and then attempted to slit her throat....and there wasn't a single drop of any bodily fluid anywhere on the bed or room or entire trailer. Also, (from the video we saw) it didn't look like there was any markings or scuffs on the head board that would look like rope or chains.

Also, to put it delicately—they were not a clean looking family. If you were to sanitize that trailer and garage to the extent needed to remove any trace of blood, hair or other DNA evidence, they did a really fine job dirtying it back up to ####hole levels.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
MattFancy said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Obviously it is one thing if you are on the jury and have the man's fate in your hands but that shipped sailed. I'm just interested in if people think he did it and if the police planted evidence. At the end of the day the results aren't binding but to me being between B & C is an odd place to land. I don't see how anyone could be 100% confident in their answers but I find it hard for someone to watch the entire documentary and not come away with their opinion (even if not strong) on whether police planted evidence and whether Steve did kill her.
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Like I said, I don't feel confident enough in saying he's totally innocent. But I do feel confident in saying the police planted evidence and got a false confession.
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I dont think between B and C is odd at all. Im 99% sure evidence was planted. Im 50/50 on whether or not he did it.
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This.

Personally I'm confident that someone from that family did it. The police convinced themselves it was Steve early on for obvious reasons. When they failed at finding solid scientific evidence they resorted to planting it.

 
I was going to put this as a separate poll question but will just ask it here, do people think Dolores Avery has naturally curly hair or is that a perm?

 
glvsav37 said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
I was going to put this as a separate poll question but will just ask it here, do people think Dolores Avery has naturally curly hair or is that a perm?
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or more important...does the carpet match the curtains in that trailer park beauty?
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a woman like that rocks a hollywood wax all year long

 
glvsav37 said:
I just can't get past the idea that they said he had her tied up to the bed, sexually assaulted her, beat her and then attempted to slit her throat....and there wasn't a single drop of any bodily fluid anywhere on the bed or room or entire trailer. Also, (from the video we saw) it didn't look like there was any markings or scuffs on the head board that would look like rope or chains.

Also, to put it delicately—they were not a clean looking family. If you were to sanitize that trailer and garage to the extent needed to remove any trace of blood, hair or other DNA evidence, they did a really fine job dirtying it back up to ####hole levels.
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This is based on the Dassey "confession". You could still believe he killed her even if you throw out all of that nonsense.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
I was going to put this as a separate poll question but will just ask it here, do people think Dolores Avery has naturally curly hair or is that a perm?
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Someone is guilty of giving both Dolores and Barb bad perms.

 
Wait, so this is an entire season??? Just looked it up on Netflix.

Should I even bother watching it?

 
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Not enough adds up to convince me he did it. Of course it's possible he did, but the reasons I've seen that make that claim seem wildly speculative.

There are a LOT of other suspects is the thing. Scott Tadych is who I'd put at the top of the list. Lots of motive, lots of opportunity, changed his testimony to try to make Steven seem more guilty, has a worse resume than Steven and seems more than capable of plotting the whole thing to frame Steven and get rid of him. He knew the cops had a hard-on to get Steven for something and of course they came through with flying colors.

I think the ex-boyfriend was CLEARLY someone the police should have considered a suspect. Obviously there seems like something off with him and the voicemail tinkering is suspicious as ####, but since he wasn't investigated there's nothing to look at to make a firm judgment.

 
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If many of you are swayed by a bias documentary showing only one side and leaving out massive amounts of evidence, we are in trouble since many of you decide on something with so little "all around thinking".

Please allow yourselves at least three varying opinions on most any matter before coming to one conclusion on any topic. There are always three sides to every story.

 
Mario Kart said:
If many of you are swayed by a bias documentary showing only one side and leaving out massive amounts of evidence, we are in trouble since many of you decide on something with so little "all around thinking".

Please allow yourselves at least three varying opinions on most any matter before coming to one conclusion on any topic. There are always three sides to every story.
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Care to share what the "massive" amounts of evidence are that were left out?

 
Mario Kart said:
If many of you are swayed by a bias documentary showing only one side and leaving out massive amounts of evidence, we are in trouble since many of you decide on something with so little "all around thinking".

Please allow yourselves at least three varying opinions on most any matter before coming to one conclusion on any topic. There are always three sides to every story.
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I beat myself off last night. End of story. Give me the two other sides please.

 
Apple Juice said:
Not enough adds up to convince me he did it. Of course it's possible he did, but the reasons I've seen that make that claim seem wildly speculative.

There are a LOT of other suspects is the thing. Scott Tadych is who I'd put at the top of the list. Lots of motive, lots of opportunity, changed his testimony to try to make Steven seem more guilty, has a worse resume than Steven and seems more than capable of plotting the whole thing to frame Steven and get rid of him. He knew the cops had a hard-on to get Steven for something and of course they came through with flying colors.

I think the ex-boyfriend was CLEARLY someone the police should have considered a suspect. Obviously there seems like something off with him and the voicemail tinkering is suspicious as ####, but since he wasn't investigated there's nothing to look at to make a firm judgment.
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If I have learned anything from Criminal Minds, it's that the killer always injects themselves back into the investigation/search party. These two fit that idea perfectly.

 
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