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Making Baseball watchable again (1 Viewer)

Would you follow an MLB team if there were less games in a season?

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joni mitchell

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*This is not a baseball thread- Don't move*

Would you watch more MLB baseball if the innings were 7 instead of 9?

Would you follow an MLB team if there were less games in a season?

 
I'll watch baseball during the playoffs and toward the end of the regular season, but I just can't sustain any interest in it until then. 162 games is just too many. Every game carries less than 1/10 the significance of an NFL regular season game.

I'm a football fan, but if NFL games were played 6 minutes at a time over the course of two weeks, I probably wouldn't watch them, either.

 
Great job by the mods. Thanks for moving my thread geared to casual fans to the baseball fans. Meanwhile Jim11 spams the FFA daily with multiple garbage threads about the same topic.

 
SaveFerrisB said:
- Randomly place a few land mines in the outfield. No claymores or anything fatal, just something that will break an outfielder's stride and have a firecracker-like blast. People tripping and falling + stuff blowing up = ratings.
:lmao:
 
Make all pitchers work as fast as Mark Buehrle. He literally receives the ball from the catcher and starts his wind-up in less than two seconds if the hitters aren't walking around.

 
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Pitch clockFull revenue sharingSalary Cap/Salary FloorEliminate the DHBaseball is fixed
Pretty much agree with everything here although I'm not sure how the salary cap could play out. I also think a big one is no defensive changes mid-inning. You would probably have to put in some kind of way around this for injuries, but I think its ridiculous that you can use 4 pitchers and 3 left fielders in one inning. Make all pitching and fielder changes between innings = huge time savings AND you don't break the momentum when a team starts putting hits together. After about the 5th inning, anytime something starts happening, its automatically a huge break for a pitching change.
 
Pitch clockFull revenue sharingSalary Cap/Salary FloorEliminate the DHBaseball is fixed
Pretty much agree with everything here although I'm not sure how the salary cap could play out. I also think a big one is no defensive changes mid-inning. You would probably have to put in some kind of way around this for injuries, but I think its ridiculous that you can use 4 pitchers and 3 left fielders in one inning. Make all pitching and fielder changes between innings = huge time savings AND you don't break the momentum when a team starts putting hits together. After about the 5th inning, anytime something starts happening, its automatically a huge break for a pitching change.
It's like two minutes to change pitchers. He runs in, they cut to commercials for 90 seconds, and then they're back and he's ready to pitch. Is that really so objectionable?I'm all for speeding up the game in appropriate ways, but some of the ideas being floated out here are just silly.
 
Eliminate the going through the motion of the intentional walk. How many passed balls or wild pitches have their been during an intentional walk?

 
Pitch clock

Full revenue sharing

Salary Cap/Salary Floor

Eliminate the DH

Baseball is fixed
:hot: I'd also like to see something limiting the time it takes a batter to get ready after every pitch. A pitch clock would help. If not that, then start simple, like one foot must always remain in the batters box. Enough of this walking halfway to the dugout to redo your batting gloves etc.

 
I think both leagues should have a DH, there is no reason to have a batting spot that bats under .100 consistently...

along the same lines, not making everyone play both ways sounds like it would be a great idea... give defensive specialists more value, and give guys who can't play defense more value all at the same time...

I also think they need some kind of maximum limit on team salaries and a minimum limit and some revenue sharing... It doesn't need to be as close as footballs, but something like $50 M minimum and $200 M maximum should work...

If the salary cap isn't an option, then they need to get rid of the minor league system they have now and convert all of professional baseball (minors and majors) into a system like they have for soccer in Europe with relegation and promotion between leagues for the top couple and bottom couple teams...

 
I think both leagues should have a DH, there is no reason to have a batting spot that bats under .100 consistently...along the same lines, not making everyone play both ways sounds like it would be a great idea... give defensive specialists more value, and give guys who can't play defense more value all at the same time...I also think they need some kind of maximum limit on team salaries and a minimum limit and some revenue sharing... It doesn't need to be as close as footballs, but something like $50 M minimum and $200 M maximum should work...If the salary cap isn't an option, then they need to get rid of the minor league system they have now and convert all of professional baseball (minors and majors) into a system like they have for soccer in Europe with relegation and promotion between leagues for the top couple and bottom couple teams...
One would really have to think hard to come up with a collection of ideas this bad.
 
shut it down said:
larry_boy_44 said:
I think both leagues should have a DH, there is no reason to have a batting spot that bats under .100 consistently...along the same lines, not making everyone play both ways sounds like it would be a great idea... give defensive specialists more value, and give guys who can't play defense more value all at the same time...I also think they need some kind of maximum limit on team salaries and a minimum limit and some revenue sharing... It doesn't need to be as close as footballs, but something like $50 M minimum and $200 M maximum should work...If the salary cap isn't an option, then they need to get rid of the minor league system they have now and convert all of professional baseball (minors and majors) into a system like they have for soccer in Europe with relegation and promotion between leagues for the top couple and bottom couple teams...
One would really have to think hard to come up with a collection of ideas this bad.
why exactly are they bad ideas?Plus, you are aware that this isn't the first time most of them had been suggested in this very thread, right?
 
shut it down said:
larry_boy_44 said:
I think both leagues should have a DH, there is no reason to have a batting spot that bats under .100 consistently...along the same lines, not making everyone play both ways sounds like it would be a great idea... give defensive specialists more value, and give guys who can't play defense more value all at the same time...I also think they need some kind of maximum limit on team salaries and a minimum limit and some revenue sharing... It doesn't need to be as close as footballs, but something like $50 M minimum and $200 M maximum should work...If the salary cap isn't an option, then they need to get rid of the minor league system they have now and convert all of professional baseball (minors and majors) into a system like they have for soccer in Europe with relegation and promotion between leagues for the top couple and bottom couple teams...
One would really have to think hard to come up with a collection of ideas this bad.
why exactly are they bad ideas?Plus, you are aware that this isn't the first time most of them had been suggested in this very thread, right?
What about letting the CF on each team ride a dragon?
 
Pitch clockFull revenue sharingSalary Cap/Salary FloorEliminate the DHBaseball is fixed
Pretty much agree with everything here although I'm not sure how the salary cap could play out. I also think a big one is no defensive changes mid-inning. You would probably have to put in some kind of way around this for injuries, but I think its ridiculous that you can use 4 pitchers and 3 left fielders in one inning. Make all pitching and fielder changes between innings = huge time savings AND you don't break the momentum when a team starts putting hits together. After about the 5th inning, anytime something starts happening, its automatically a huge break for a pitching change.
Score TD. Commercial Break. Kickoff. Commercial Break. 3 INC. Commercial Break. Score basket. Timeout. Commercial Break. Inbound pass, foul. Two Free throws. Timeout. Commercial Break. Start race. Crash. Yellow flag 10 laps. Crash on restart. Yellow flag 12 laps. If you want a sporting event without commercial breaks, your only options are soccer and the Masters. I agree with a pitch clock and eliminating the DH. Salary caps and revenue sharing changes arent necessary, merely change the draft to hard slotting with trading of picks and international players subjected to the draft.
 
Pitch clockFull revenue sharingSalary Cap/Salary FloorEliminate the DHBaseball is fixed
Pretty much agree with everything here although I'm not sure how the salary cap could play out. I also think a big one is no defensive changes mid-inning. You would probably have to put in some kind of way around this for injuries, but I think its ridiculous that you can use 4 pitchers and 3 left fielders in one inning. Make all pitching and fielder changes between innings = huge time savings AND you don't break the momentum when a team starts putting hits together. After about the 5th inning, anytime something starts happening, its automatically a huge break for a pitching change.
Score TD. Commercial Break. Kickoff. Commercial Break. 3 INC. Commercial Break. Score basket. Timeout. Commercial Break. Inbound pass, foul. Two Free throws. Timeout. Commercial Break. Start race. Crash. Yellow flag 10 laps. Crash on restart. Yellow flag 12 laps. If you want a sporting event without commercial breaks, your only options are soccer and the Masters. I agree with a pitch clock and eliminating the DH. Salary caps and revenue sharing changes arent necessary, merely change the draft to hard slotting with trading of picks and international players subjected to the draft.
:) What part of my post suggests I don't think they should have commercial breaks? I'm saying that the breaks happen at the absolute worst times in the game. It also happens in basketball like you said once they start fouling and I think that is a huge problem for those of us that aren't huge basketball fans.Football doesn't take 6, 2-minute breaks as one team is driving to tie the game in the fourth quarter. They take them at the natural breaks in the game for the most part (although I hate instant replays and 2 minute warnings).
 
if you want a sport with non stop action you should watch soccer(i heard there is action) or hockey...

baseball needs a pitch clock and a batters clock like someone mentioned. another idea might be limiting the number of pitchers a team can have on the roster. might stop managers from making so many mid-inning pitching changes...

 
if you want a sport with non stop action you should watch soccer(i heard there is action) or hockey...baseball needs a pitch clock and a batters clock like someone mentioned. another idea might be limiting the number of pitchers a team can have on the roster. might stop managers from making so many mid-inning pitching changes...
What games are you guys watching with so many pitching changes? Generally, teams use 2-3 pitchers in a game. And I usually don't see more than 1-2 mid-inning pitching changes. Is this really a problem?Games are not lasting overly long right now. In fact, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I had seen info that they have sped up in recent years. The pitching clock and aligning the leagues regarding DHs are the only reasonable suggestions I've seen mentioned so far. Defensive specialists is just a silly concept. That wouldn't add to the enjoyment of the game whatsoever. And there is no comparison to football since it's really not that tough to be competent defensively in baseball.
 
Pitch clockFull revenue sharingSalary Cap/Salary FloorEliminate the DHBaseball is fixed
Pretty much agree with everything here although I'm not sure how the salary cap could play out. I also think a big one is no defensive changes mid-inning. You would probably have to put in some kind of way around this for injuries, but I think its ridiculous that you can use 4 pitchers and 3 left fielders in one inning. Make all pitching and fielder changes between innings = huge time savings AND you don't break the momentum when a team starts putting hits together. After about the 5th inning, anytime something starts happening, its automatically a huge break for a pitching change.
Score TD. Commercial Break. Kickoff. Commercial Break. 3 INC. Commercial Break. Score basket. Timeout. Commercial Break. Inbound pass, foul. Two Free throws. Timeout. Commercial Break. Start race. Crash. Yellow flag 10 laps. Crash on restart. Yellow flag 12 laps. If you want a sporting event without commercial breaks, your only options are soccer and the Masters. I agree with a pitch clock and eliminating the DH. Salary caps and revenue sharing changes arent necessary, merely change the draft to hard slotting with trading of picks and international players subjected to the draft.
:lmao: What part of my post suggests I don't think they should have commercial breaks? I'm saying that the breaks happen at the absolute worst times in the game. It also happens in basketball like you said once they start fouling and I think that is a huge problem for those of us that aren't huge basketball fans.Football doesn't take 6, 2-minute breaks as one team is driving to tie the game in the fourth quarter. They take them at the natural breaks in the game for the most part (although I hate instant replays and 2 minute warnings).
Any team with a decent coach has 3 timeouts and can challenge for an instant replay review. Now they dont neccessarily cut to a commercial for each timeout, but football has plenty of unnatural breaks in the game. There is a reason that Direct TV can show every play of a game inside of 30 minutes on a rebroadcast.
 
if you want a sport with non stop action you should watch soccer(i heard there is action) or hockey...

baseball needs a pitch clock and a batters clock like someone mentioned. another idea might be limiting the number of pitchers a team can have on the roster. might stop managers from making so many mid-inning pitching changes...
What games are you guys watching with so many pitching changes? Generally, teams use 2-3 pitchers in a game. And I usually don't see more than 1-2 mid-inning pitching changes. Is this really a problem?Games are not lasting overly long right now. In fact, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I had seen info that they have sped up in recent years.

The pitching clock and aligning the leagues regarding DHs are the only reasonable suggestions I've seen mentioned so far.

Defensive specialists is just a silly concept. That wouldn't add to the enjoyment of the game whatsoever. And there is no comparison to football since it's really not that tough to be competent defensively in baseball.
No offense, but no chance that this is true.
 
Once a batter enters the batter's box for his AB, he cannot leave said box (i.e. call time) unless he has to dive out of the way of a pitch or the pitcher makes a pick-off/fake pick-off attempt.

Install the DH in the NL or get rid of it in the AL - I don't care just keep the rules consistent. This is like not allowing 2 point conversions in AFC games or not having a 3 point line in Eastern Conference games.

And I like the non-lethal landmine thing in the outfield too. If that doesn't fly, how about some camoflouged bogs in the OF filled with water. Hillarity ensues.

 
if you want a sport with non stop action you should watch soccer(i heard there is action) or hockey...

baseball needs a pitch clock and a batters clock like someone mentioned. another idea might be limiting the number of pitchers a team can have on the roster. might stop managers from making so many mid-inning pitching changes...
What games are you guys watching with so many pitching changes? Generally, teams use 2-3 pitchers in a game. And I usually don't see more than 1-2 mid-inning pitching changes. Is this really a problem?Games are not lasting overly long right now. In fact, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I had seen info that they have sped up in recent years.

The pitching clock and aligning the leagues regarding DHs are the only reasonable suggestions I've seen mentioned so far.

Defensive specialists is just a silly concept. That wouldn't add to the enjoyment of the game whatsoever. And there is no comparison to football since it's really not that tough to be competent defensively in baseball.
No offense, but no chance that this is true.
Well, I'm an AL guy so there aren't extra pitching changes due to heavy use of pinch-hitters. I'd still contend that 2-3 is very common. Four is also pretty common, but more than that is rare. And I definitely stand by the 1-2 mid-inning replacements a game.
 
Install the DH in the NL or get rid of it in the AL - I don't care just keep the rules consistent. This is like not allowing 2 point conversions in AFC games or not having a 3 point line in Eastern Conference games.
:goodposting:
I would absolutely stop watching baseball if the NL adopted a DH. And I know some friends that feel the same way about the AL dropping the DH. The leagues arent going to change the DH rules to be consistent.
 
Install the DH in the NL or get rid of it in the AL - I don't care just keep the rules consistent. This is like not allowing 2 point conversions in AFC games or not having a 3 point line in Eastern Conference games.
:unsure:
I would absolutely stop watching baseball if the NL adopted a DH. And I know some friends that feel the same way about the AL dropping the DH. The leagues arent going to change the DH rules to be consistent.
Well they should. It is MLB, they should all have the same rules just like the other major pro sports.
 
if you want a sport with non stop action you should watch soccer(i heard there is action) or hockey...

baseball needs a pitch clock and a batters clock like someone mentioned. another idea might be limiting the number of pitchers a team can have on the roster. might stop managers from making so many mid-inning pitching changes...
What games are you guys watching with so many pitching changes? Generally, teams use 2-3 pitchers in a game. And I usually don't see more than 1-2 mid-inning pitching changes. Is this really a problem?Games are not lasting overly long right now. In fact, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I had seen info that they have sped up in recent years.

The pitching clock and aligning the leagues regarding DHs are the only reasonable suggestions I've seen mentioned so far.

Defensive specialists is just a silly concept. That wouldn't add to the enjoyment of the game whatsoever. And there is no comparison to football since it's really not that tough to be competent defensively in baseball.
No offense, but no chance that this is true.
Well, I'm an AL guy so there aren't extra pitching changes due to heavy use of pinch-hitters. I'd still contend that 2-3 is very common. Four is also pretty common, but more than that is rare. And I definitely stand by the 1-2 mid-inning replacements a game.
I'm not sure how to find the across the MLB average so I just started clicking random teams. The average is almost exactly 4.0 with the NL being about 4.2 and AL teams were about 3.8. You can find it for any individual team by clicking here at baseballreference. That means that the average game involves about 6 pitching changes. No idea how to find statistics on how many are mid-inning.
 

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