Man jailed after girl lied about her age (1 Viewer)

[fantasycurse42]

Where has been lately?

Pretty sure he was last spotted in a suspicious car in Suffolk, VA.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

I agree with you in general and I even gave your post a like because I know you passionately care about likes so much, but still I have a hard time believing that anybody could reasonably mistake a 13 year old for an 18 year old.

 

[NCCommish]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

 

[matttyl]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

You're 18 or 19 and you skinny dip with a 17 year old - that's statutory rape?!

 

[NCCommish]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

I agree with you in general and I even gave your post a like because I know you passionately care about likes so much, but still I have a hard time believing that anybody could reasonably mistake a 13 year old for an 18 year old.

I don't know man I have seen some young girls that could pass.

 

[NCCommish]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

You're 18 or 19 and you skinny dip with a 17 year old - that's statutory rape?!

Most states 17 is legal. But if she is 15 in some states I think that would do it.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

You're 18 or 19 and you skinny dip with a 17 year old - that's statutory rape?!

Most states 17 is legal. But if she is 15 in some states I think that would do it.

This kind of thing really pisses me off, along with the "sexting = child porn" thing. These kinds of laws can and have ruined people's lives because of adolescent poor judgment.

 

[McGarnicle]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Huh. Interesting. Which states, just out of curiosity?

 

[NCCommish]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

You're 18 or 19 and you skinny dip with a 17 year old - that's statutory rape?!

Most states 17 is legal. But if she is 15 in some states I think that would do it.

This kind of thing really pisses me off, along with the "sexting = child porn" thing. These kinds of laws can and have ruined people's lives because of adolescent poor judgment.

True.

 

[NCCommish]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Huh. Interesting. Which states, just out of curiosity?

I think NC was one of them. IIRC correctly at one time it was something like the top 3 buttons unbuttoned. I have to admit I don't keep up these days though.

 

[Zow]

Age of consent is the stupidest law ever.

Not really. The philosophy of the state exercising its safety and policy concerns regarding younger girls sleeping with older men by criminalizing such behavior and, in doing so, creating a strict liability age to simplify the litigation process, is probably a good one.

It just appears overly harsh in a lesser percentage of circumstances where the guy really possessing no mens era due to legitimately believing the girl to be of age. In those cases, ideally the prosecuting agency would be able to exercise an appropriate level of discretion.

 

[Ilov80s]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Huh. Interesting. Which states, just out of curiosity?

I think NC was one of them. IIRC correctly at one time it was something like the top 3 buttons unbuttoned. I have to admit I don't keep up these days though.

How often do teen girls where shirts with buttons anyway?

 

[Ilov80s]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

You're 18 or 19 and you skinny dip with a 17 year old - that's statutory rape?!

Most states 17 is legal. But if she is 15 in some states I think that would do it.

This kind of thing really pisses me off, along with the "sexting = child porn" thing. These kinds of laws can and have ruined people's lives because of adolescent poor judgment.

I would bd curious to see a nation poll on this stuff. What % believe sexting between teenagers should be treated as child porn or HS aged students willingly having sex, skinny dipping, groping, etc. should ever be considered rape.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I would love love love to nail a hot 19 year old... Unfortunately I can no longer partake in these activities

 

[matttyl]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Huh. Interesting. Which states, just out of curiosity?

I think NC was one of them. IIRC correctly at one time it was something like the top 3 buttons unbuttoned. I have to admit I don't keep up these days though.

There are pills for that now.

 

[James Daulton]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

I agree with you in general and I even gave your post a like because I know you passionately care about likes so much, but still I have a hard time believing that anybody could reasonably mistake a 13 year old for an 18 year old.

I don't know man I have seen some young girls that could pass.

13 is miles away from 18. A 13 year old girl is in the 7th grade. Mistaking 16 for 18? Sure, but not 13 unless she's a massive outlier in regards to how old she looks. If you have sex with a 13 year old and claim you thought she was 18 because that's what she told you, 99.9% chance you knew she was way younger than 18 but choose to overlook it.

 

[packersfan]

I have seen one or two 18 year olds that looked like very young teens. One in particular was 20 and so petite she looked no older than 14. My friend took her to dinner for a date and outside a group of guys confronted him because they thought he was taking out a teen. They didnt believe him until she came out to set things straight before he got pummeled.

Gotta love a group of guys looking for a fight and sticking their noses into something that didn't concern them.

 

[Zow]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

This likely varies greatly by state.

In my state/jurisdiction, there actually is no specific "statutory rape". Instead, it is codified in accordance with specific sexual behaviors and whether consent was given. In circumstances where the girl is below the age of consent (18 here), that is one of the elements of the charge and the phrase "with a minor" is added on to the end of the charge. For example, "sexual abuse of a minor" is the touching of the bare breast of a girl under 18 by someone who exceeds 18 and who is not presently in high school with the girl. 'Sexual conduct with a minor" is full blown intercourse with a girl in the same situation, and is a higher class felony carrying a greater range of punishment. There is a similar statutory charge for the "other" two options for penetration and that, IIRC correctly, carries an even greater range of sentence. In circumstances where actual force was use, there is a separate statute that "enhances" even the highest range of sentence to natural life. In all cases the crimes are strict liability, but essentially my state recognizes and parses out the different acts and even whether there was consent in determining what level felony the defendant is charged with and what his potential sentencing range is.

 

[Fennis]

She should be the one in jail.

Didn't your wife lie about her age and you married her under age?

you do know that is an alias someone has for fishing and isn't really a person with real stories right?

 

[Insein]

I would love love love to nail a hot 19 year old... Unfortunately I can no longer partake in these activities

Because of girls lying about their age?

 

[fantasycurse42]

I would love love love to nail a hot 19 year old... Unfortunately I can no longer partake in these activities

Because of girls lying about their age?

Lets go with that.

 

[Zow]

Age of consent is the stupidest law ever.

Not really. The philosophy of the state exercising its safety and policy concerns regarding younger girls sleeping with older men by criminalizing such behavior and, in doing so, creating a strict liability age to simplify the litigation process, is probably a good one. It just appears overly harsh in a lesser percentage of circumstances where the guy really possessing no mens era due to legitimately believing the girl to be of age. In those cases, ideally the prosecuting agency would be able to exercise an appropriate level of discretion.

Unless dude is black.

I wish I could disagree with this.

 

[randall146]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Wha?

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

She should be the one in jail.

Didn't your wife lie about her age and you married her under age?

you do know that is an alias someone has for fishing and isn't really a person with real stories right?

I assume that everyone here is their own individual and the personality that they portray is their true personality. It's more entertaining that way.

 

[Christo]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

Depends on the language of the state's law.

 

[Zow]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Wha?

I was hesitant to believe it too, but am assuming that maybe in some cases such facts have been held to establish a case for an attempt charge.

 

[Christo]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

You're 18 or 19 and you skinny dip with a 17 year old - that's statutory rape?!

Most states 17 is legal. But if she is 15 in some states I think that would do it.

This kind of thing really pisses me off, along with the "sexting = child porn" thing. These kinds of laws can and have ruined people's lives because of adolescent poor judgment.

There's one case that just happened up here that people are in an uproar about. Girl texts her naughty bits to boy. Boy texts his naughty bits to girl. Girl's mom sees boy's naughty bits and reports him to police. They arrest him but not her. Don't remember exact ages but they were both under 18 and within 1 year of each other.

 

[Christo]

I would love love love to nail a hot 19 year old... Unfortunately I can no longer partake in these activities

Impotent?

 

[Christo]

I have seen one or two 18 year olds that looked like very young teens. One in particular was 20 and so petite she looked no older than 14. My friend took her to dinner for a date and outside a group of guys confronted him because they thought he was taking out a teen. They didnt believe him until she came out to set things straight before he got pummeled.

Gotta love a group of guys looking for a fight and sticking their noses into something that didn't concern them.

They were jealous.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I would love love love to nail a hot 19 year old... Unfortunately I can no longer partake in these activities

Impotent?

 

[Thorn]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

Unless you're in scuba gear, aren't you always at least 'partially' naked?

 

[Thorn]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Huh. Interesting. Which states, just out of curiosity?

I think NC was one of them. IIRC correctly at one time it was something like the top 3 buttons unbuttoned. I have to admit I don't keep up these days though.

How often do teen girls where shirts with buttons anyway?

Okay, great, let's meet at 7 at the club. By the way, what are you wearing? A button-down, you say? Hey you know what, I forgot that my grandma's funeral is tonight. Maybe another time.

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

Unless you're in scuba gear, aren't you always at least 'partially' naked?

Yeah, baby. Take that mask off.

 

[Brony]

Knock Knock

Who's There?

Devonta

Devonta Who?

Devonta bump uglies in da car after Austin & Ally

 

[dickey moe]

Age of consent is the stupidest law ever.

...says someone who probably doesnt have any kids.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Age of consent is the stupidest law ever.

...says someone who probably doesnt have any kids daughters.

FYP

 

[NCCommish]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

I agree with you in general and I even gave your post a like because I know you passionately care about likes so much, but still I have a hard time believing that anybody could reasonably mistake a 13 year old for an 18 year old.

I don't know man I have seen some young girls that could pass.

13 is miles away from 18. A 13 year old girl is in the 7th grade. Mistaking 16 for 18? Sure, but not 13 unless she's a massive outlier in regards to how old she looks. If you have sex with a 13 year old and claim you thought she was 18 because that's what she told you, 99.9% chance you knew she was way younger than 18 but choose to overlook it.

My wife had a cousin who looked every bit of 18 when she was 13. Especially in a bikini. She was built like a brick well you know. She could walk into a store and buy beer without an ID. This was when the age was 18. And she was always pretty mature for her age emotionally. I think a 19 year old would have believed she was 18 and not thought twice.

 

[NCCommish]

I'm totally ignorant on the topic, but at what point would "statutory rape" actually have taken place? It says the two were "partially naked" in the vehicle, it doesn't say anything about any sexual intercourse or contact.

In some states you only have to have the girl with some buttons undone that will do it.

Huh. Interesting. Which states, just out of curiosity?

I think NC was one of them. IIRC correctly at one time it was something like the top 3 buttons unbuttoned. I have to admit I don't keep up these days though.

There are pills for that now.

I may be old but there is still one thing that works like the old days. I don't need any pills.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

the minute this is changed, the whole law becomes irrelevant. if "i thought she was 18" was a defense, guess what everyone will say? even if they have to get correspondence as evidence - (hey, send me a text saying you're 18).

So as the law stands now, a 13-14 or underage girl can get a guy thrown in jail and branded a sex offender for life just because she doesn't like him or wants to help someone get back at a guy by coming onto him and having sex with him?

Seems fair.

 

[Zow]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

the minute this is changed, the whole law becomes irrelevant. if "i thought she was 18" was a defense, guess what everyone will say? even if they have to get correspondence as evidence - (hey, send me a text saying you're 18).

So as the law stands now, a 13-14 or underage girl can get a guy thrown in jail and branded a sex offender for life just because she doesn't like him or wants to help someone get back at a guy by coming onto him and having sex with him?

Seems fair.

Well, to be fair since you're bringing in fairness, it is possible to resist the advances of a 13-14 year old.

No shtick, I had a girl probably of 16 or 17 come on to me last night (she was impressed by my tennis skills) and I had enough will power to not succumb to her advances. So while I agree completely with NC's position that some level of mens era should be required, I strongly disagree with your assertion that the strict liability law somehow has created an epidemic or enough cases to draw our worry where some poor guy over 17 gets victimized by the young girl trying to get him in trouble.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

the minute this is changed, the whole law becomes irrelevant. if "i thought she was 18" was a defense, guess what everyone will say? even if they have to get correspondence as evidence - (hey, send me a text saying you're 18).

So as the law stands now, a 13-14 or underage girl can get a guy thrown in jail and branded a sex offender for life just because she doesn't like him or wants to help someone get back at a guy by coming onto him and having sex with him?

Seems fair.

Well, to be fair since you're bringing in fairness, it is possible to resist the advances of a 13-14 year old.

No shtick, I had a girl probably of 16 or 17 come on to me last night (she was impressed by my tennis skills) and I had enough will power to not succumb to her advances. So while I agree completely with NC's position that some level of mens era should be required, I strongly disagree with your assertion that the strict liability law somehow has created an epidemic or enough cases to draw our worry where some poor guy over 17 gets victimized by the young girl trying to get him in trouble.

Well of course it is. Geez......

I guess I have to spell it out here..... AN UNDERAGE GIRL THAT LOOKS OLDER AND TELLS THE GUY SHE'S 18-19 ETC.

 

[NewlyRetired]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

 

[MC Gas Money]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

How exactly would the federal age of consent come in to effect?

 

[NCCommish]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

How exactly would the federal age of consent come in to effect?

Well as he mentioned once you cross a state line the Feds can get involved.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I was with a 15 year old girl when I was 19, she said she was 18 and had dropped out of college her first semester and would be attending my school in spring semester. I found out after a few weeks of "dating" when she left out her wallet when taking a shower at my house. I've never been so freaked out in my life and immediately broke up with her two weeks later after she let me go back door.

 

[MC Gas Money]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

How exactly would the federal age of consent come in to effect?

Well as he mentioned once you cross a state line the Feds can get involved.

Cross state lines in what way? Go meet a girl in another state? Take her to another state?

 

[Zow]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

How exactly would the federal age of consent come in to effect?

Well as he mentioned once you cross a state line the Feds can get involved.

Cross state lines in what way? Go meet a girl in another state? Take her to another state?

Live in Phillipsburgh. Meet her in NY. Go bang her in atlantic City over a weekend after just meeting her. Continue to sleep together at each others' places. Three different states with arguably one on-going criminal action.

 

[Christo]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

How exactly would the federal age of consent come in to effect?

Well as he mentioned once you cross a state line the Feds can get involved.

Cross state lines in what way? Go meet a girl in another state? Take her to another state?

No. The sex act has to actually occur across a state line. It happens more than you'd think.

 

[StrikeS2k]

For those wondering, 18 is the federal law for age of consent but that is only if someone crosses state lines.

If you stay within state, state law apply and that can be younger for most of the country.

Here is the break down from wiki

age of consent 16: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

age of consent 17: Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

age of consent 18: Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin

How exactly would the federal age of consent come in to effect?

Well as he mentioned once you cross a state line the Feds can get involved.

Cross state lines in what way? Go meet a girl in another state? Take her to another state?

Live in Phillipsburgh. Meet her in NY. Go bang her in atlantic City over a weekend after just meeting her. Continue to sleep together at each others' places. Three different states with arguably one on-going criminal action.

Or 4.

 

[Zow]

Is this surprising to anyone? Statutory rape is a crime even if you think she's old enough. I'd assume that's been the law in every state since any of us have been adults.

Laws should take into consideration intent. If he has correspondence showing she lied then that should be a positive defense as he had no intent of having sex with a minor and he didn't think he was. Intent should matter.

the minute this is changed, the whole law becomes irrelevant. if "i thought she was 18" was a defense, guess what everyone will say? even if they have to get correspondence as evidence - (hey, send me a text saying you're 18).

So as the law stands now, a 13-14 or underage girl can get a guy thrown in jail and branded a sex offender for life just because she doesn't like him or wants to help someone get back at a guy by coming onto him and having sex with him?

Seems fair.

Well, to be fair since you're bringing in fairness, it is possible to resist the advances of a 13-14 year old.

No shtick, I had a girl probably of 16 or 17 come on to me last night (she was impressed by my tennis skills) and I had enough will power to not succumb to her advances. So while I agree completely with NC's position that some level of mens era should be required, I strongly disagree with your assertion that the strict liability law somehow has created an epidemic or enough cases to draw our worry where some poor guy over 17 gets victimized by the young girl trying to get him in trouble.

Well of course it is. Geez......

I guess I have to spell it out here..... AN UNDERAGE GIRL THAT LOOKS OLDER AND TELLS THE GUY SHE'S 18-19 ETC.

I'd argue it's also pretty easy to resist the advances of a 18-19 year old. Furthermore, I'd argue that most older looking 13-14 year olds probably aren't vindictive enough to go bang an older guy just so somebody else can get some revenge.