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Golf Story and a Question about Your Lowest Round (Where / When) (1 Viewer)

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WHAT IS YOUR BEST SCORE AND WHERE DID YOU SHOOT IT?

GATES PARK, WATERLOO IA. Par 72 and I shot a 66 in 1992 (27 years old)

My grandfather retired from "normal" work at age 65 and worked at nights at a men's clothing store to pay for his local "season golf pass". I grew up playing him in Waterloo, IA. Played every Monday w/ him during the summer and occasionally when school was in session. Started out where my par was double normal par. Then I we adjusted to normal par as I got better, but I always played the "men's tees" and always had water balls because some holes there was no way I could carry, but I'd get to drop 3 on the other side, which was better than trying to "play around the water".

I moved to Texas at at 11. "Pa" would come down during the winter, and I'd go up there for a month during the summer and every day we'd play at one of the local munis. He never "let" me beat him, he said I had to "earn it" and that when I did "it would be one of the best days of his life". Around the time I turned 14 I beat him for the 1st time 81-83. We celebrated at Shakey's Pizza. I went away to college and took golf "class" and got my handicap down to about 1-2 and told my grandfather that my next goal was to break par playing w/ him on one of the courses we grew up playing on. I moved to Houston and my townhouse backed up to a local course so I'd hop on after work and play 12-13 holes almost every night so I got in plenty of practice. I also played in several golf leagues.

In the summer of 1992 (I was 27) I went to vist them in Iowa, and while we couldn't play every day (due to his age 81) we were able to get in 6/7 rounds while I was there. We played the next to last day of my trip at Gates park (not the hardest course in the world, but still, I was playing from the tips (6800) and he was playing from Grandpa tees. Best round I ever had. I think I might have mishit 3-4 shots all day. 33-33 for a 66 (6 under). He cried all the way up 18................walking............we NEVER road unliess it was a upscale course where the walk would be too much.

I'm now 58 and old, but yesterday I played w/ my youngest son here in Texas as he's back from college summer baseball for a little break. 1st time he ever beat me. 78-79. He birdied 18 from 15 feet. I was proud that he "won" it, and I didn't lose it. We celebrated with a fire roasted pizza at our local pizza shop.

My oldest will never beat me, he comes for the entertainment and the beer, but we all enjoy our time together on the course.

I now have a 18 month old grandson and I hope that both my kids pass down the love of the game to their children.
 
63 a few places. Latest was at Rolling Road GC in Baltimore. Im over 50 so it's nice it can show up every so often. They all seem to go the same way. Make a couple of putts early, birdie a couple of par 5s, and next thing you know you are 7 or 8 under. From that point forward I try not to choke.
 
The Woodlands golf course in Van Buren township. 2015, shot a 79. Needed a birdie on the last hole to card it and I got it. No mulligans, no miscounting strokes. Only time under 80. Doubt I will ever hit that again
 
I haven't played golf in years and never fashioned myself as much of a golfer. I would struggle through a handful of rounds a year. At some point in the 1980's, I played a round in Bermuda, and everything clicked. Consistent swing, hit the ball straight with the appropriate distance, most tee shots in the fairway, and actually looked like I was a real golfer. I was even par through 17 holes (mostly due to perfect lies on practically every shot). My final approach shot was on target heading to the green and came up just a little short and hit something on the landing . . . a sprinkler head, a cart path, a utility junction box, a rock, who knows . . . and ricocheted out of bounds. I ended up with a double bogey for a round of +2.

The most memorable course I played was Pukalani (on a volcano in Maui) the following year. I just remember teeing off when we were ABOVE the clouds. I was back to being absolutely terrible that round.
 
I actually shot my best round ever, even par 72, not terribly long (maybe a year or two) after I started to regularly play. I was probably about 30. Ken MacDonald muni course in Tempe, AZ. Random round played with my brother in law's brother and two public randoms. Played the round pretty hammered on Milwaukee's Best Ice.

Front 9 was a 41 (normal for me, especially then). On the back nine, it was one of those instances where the heavens opened up and the hole all of a sudden became like 10 feet wide. I had a stretch where I went birdie, hole in one (for an eagle), eagle, birdie. My drunken confidence was so high I was nearly calling my shots. I think I had maybe ten total putts. I actually bogeyed 18 (missed like a 12 footer for par) to shoot 41 - 31 - 72.

Shot 73 (or +1) probably 7-8 times since then and I'm a significantly better player but haven't had a day like that since. This was back in 2013.
 
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I have shot -2 five times over the years. Strangely, never -1, or -3 or better. None has a particularly great story, although one was a match play event where I played the last 11 holes -4 and is probably what I consider my best round. I was never more nervous though, than in high school when I went to 18 at even par and ended up with a 3 footer for par. I somehow made it (I’m not exactly a clutch short putter) and it’s probably the happiest I’ve ever been about a round.
 
I haven't played golf in years and never fashioned myself as much of a golfer. I would struggle through a handful of rounds a year.
I was even par through 17 holes (mostly due to perfect lies on practically every shot).
These two statements don't seem like they match. Playing a handful of rounds a year and then shooting par through 17 seems unbelievable to me.

ETA: I now a lot of people that golf in all manners. Some play a handful a year and some play every week or more. In all my years I only know a few people that are near par for a round and every single one of them are the guys that play at least once a week if not more. Anybody that I know that play a handful of times a year max out at about 90 with the occasional time of breaking 90. Most of those frequency players are typically even worse than that.
 
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I haven't played golf in years and never fashioned myself as much of a golfer. I would struggle through a handful of rounds a year.
I was even par through 17 holes (mostly due to perfect lies on practically every shot).
These two statements don't seem like they match. Playing a handful of rounds a year and then shooting par through 17 seems unbelievable to me.

ETA: I now a lot of people that golf in all manners. Some play a handful a year and some play every week or more. In all my years I only know a few people that are near par for a round and every single one of them are the guys that play at least once a week if not more. Anybody that I know that play a handful of times a year max out at about 90 with the occasional time of breaking 90. Most of those frequency players are typically even worse than that.
That's why it was so odd. I would normally shoot 90 give or take a few strokes. My best was probably 85. I just wasn't that into golf. I had some friends and relatives that played, and I was the one they would call when they needed someone to fill out their group for a tee time.

But on that one day, I found a rhythm and had the same swing that round. Good timing, didn't over swing, didn't turn my wrists, etc. I also wasn't used to playing on a perfectly maintained course. I was used to playing on crappy public courses in New England where even being in the fairway the ball could be sitting on ground that was hard as a rock or muddy and difficult to get under the ball.

I am generally good at other sports that have repetitive motion . . . bowling, pool, basketball, horseshoes, corn hole, darts, etc. That day, I think up until the last hole I had 13 pars and a couple birdies / bogies. I mostly was close enough from the pin to two putt each hole. I think I ended up with 74. Even more bizarre, one of my sons is big into golf and earned his tour card and works in the golf industry.
 
But on that one day, I found a rhythm and had the same swing that round. Good timing, didn't over swing, didn't turn my wrists, etc. I also wasn't used to playing on a perfectly maintained course. I was used to playing on crappy public courses in New England where even being in the fairway the ball could be sitting on ground that was hard as a rock or muddy and difficult to get under the ball.
Impressive. I have put some of those holes together but never an entire round.
 
I've shot a few -1 rounds. Once at my local course in Indiana when playing high school golf. But the best round ever was when was an assistant pro at Butler National GC in Chicago. I also shot a -1 round there once playing with members.
 
But on that one day, I found a rhythm and had the same swing that round. Good timing, didn't over swing, didn't turn my wrists, etc. I also wasn't used to playing on a perfectly maintained course. I was used to playing on crappy public courses in New England where even being in the fairway the ball could be sitting on ground that was hard as a rock or muddy and difficult to get under the ball.
Impressive. I have put some of those holes together but never an entire round.
I played again the following day and wasn't as good as that round but not as bad as I normally was. I still hit the ball fairly well most of the time, but I ended up in not great spots. I ended up in odd distances and between clubs, and I rarely am good guessing the right club or how hard to swing. So instead of being 15 feet from the pin multiple times, I was 60 feet away or missed the green. I think I ended up with an 83.
 
I played a lot as a kid, but very sparingly between Jr yr high school and my late 30's, and just recently started playing ~10+ times / yr. I can string quite a few good holes together, but never a full round. I've shot under par on 9 several times before (both as a yute and a middle aged schnook), but never 18. Closest I came was +2 - two summers ago on an easy course and on a somewhat challenging course as a kid. Due to the quality of the course, I don't remember specifics on the recent one, but vividly remember the one from 20+ years ago. Go figure, huh.

I was not a great ball striker off the tee as a kid, so generally when I played well it was the short game. And it was on this day. Never had so many up-and-down's before and never will again. I was only outside ~7 feet on 2 holes (made one, missed one) on the front then made the turn with just 10 putts. Birdied both par 5's, almost holed out on a short par 3, and bogeyed the other (water ball), making the turn at -2. It was not a smooth start to the back as I was +1 through 3 and in the woods off 13. But then I got it up to 70 yards and almost holed out the pitch. Birdied the short par 5 14th and I was sitting at -2 with 4 to go. Go time, right? Wrong. Nerves probably got to me. Bogeyed a medium range par 3 (not a good chip) then found myself 10 feet away for par on 16. And 3 jacked it. It wasn't an easy putt, but I went for broke, ended up 7 feet past, and missed the come-backer. Good night. Ho hum par at 17, but 18 was not a birdie hole. Got to 10 feet again for par, but missed it and tapped in for a +2.

But again- I couldn't tell you much of anything about the one from just 2 years ago. I eagled a short par 4 - cut the corner going for the green and knocked it to 5 feet. Tried again on the other drivable par 4, but didn't get a good bounce cutting the corner, kicking off a mound and ending up in deep rough 20 yards off the green. Only other memory was from the par 5 12th. Didn't hit a good drive so was just trying to lay it up in front of a creek to put me 150 out and a shot at par, only to hit my 5 iron thin which rode the dry ground right into the creek. Ended up with a double and any shot at breaking par was gone. I rallied thereafter and played the final 6 at one under, but not seriously threatening breaking par don't remember specifics.
 
I ended up in odd distances and between clubs, and I rarely am good guessing the right club or how hard to swing.
I don't play golf enough so when I do play I just try and hit the ball as far as I can each time. I mean closer is better right? I have golfed with a buddy that is close to a scratch golfer and he has tried to teach me to manage the course. Instead of hitting it as far as I can on a 2nd shot on a part 5 figure out what my best distance is for the 3rd shot and try and lay up to that spot. Gives me a chance to get on in regulation rather than be at my worst distance (30-80 yds) and still not be on in regulation. I have done that sometimes and my scores magically get better. Unfortunately, I don't play enough so I would rather go for the gusto and grip it and rip it. Let's face it, I ain't hitting the tour anytime soon.
 
I've shot a few -1 rounds. Once at my local course in Indiana when playing high school golf. But the best round ever was when was an assistant pro at Butler National GC in Chicago. I also shot a -1 round there once playing with members.
I haven't played it, but I play with some members from Butler National that also have memberships to course in AZ and they rave about Butler. That's cool you were an assistant pro there!
 
I ended up in odd distances and between clubs, and I rarely am good guessing the right club or how hard to swing.
I don't play golf enough so when I do play I just try and hit the ball as far as I can each time. I mean closer is better right? I have golfed with a buddy that is close to a scratch golfer and he has tried to teach me to manage the course. Instead of hitting it as far as I can on a 2nd shot on a part 5 figure out what my best distance is for the 3rd shot and try and lay up to that spot. Gives me a chance to get on in regulation rather than be at my worst distance (30-80 yds) and still not be on in regulation. I have done that sometimes and my scores magically get better. Unfortunately, I don't play enough so I would rather go for the gusto and grip it and rip it. Let's face it, I ain't hitting the tour anytime soon.
My understanding is that the research and theories on whether an amateur player should just hit for distance as opposed to managing the course (e.g. strategically hitting to the number that results in the widest part of the fairway, not taking on dog legs, etc.) is generally torn.

Honestly hitting it as far as possible for an amateur makes a ton of sense to me because if the dispersion and consistency rate with, say, a five iron is comparable to the driver, may as well hit driver.

I frankly personally think amateurs should adhere to the Nicklaus adage of "hit the shot you have today" and go to the range to get a feel for what they're hitting the best on that particular day and just own whatever club that is off the tee.
 
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Honestly hitting it as far as possible for an amateur makes a ton of sense to me because if the dispersion and consistency rate with, say, a five iron is comparable to the driver, may as well hit driver.
I was more alluding to laying up to a club that I am more consistent with instead of hitting up to a spot I suck at. With any of these things if you hit a bad shot (which can happen to me at any time with any club) it doesn't really matter what you were trying to do.

However, I know that if I am between 30-80 yds I know that 98% of the time I will never get on the green in one shot. But from 125-150 yds I will probably be about 50-70% to get on the green from there. This probably fits your second point which is hit the shot you have today. It's just most of the time it's more fun to grab that 3 wood and swing from the heals in the off chance you pure it. hahahah
 
I've shot a few -1 rounds. Once at my local course in Indiana when playing high school golf. But the best round ever was when was an assistant pro at Butler National GC in Chicago. I also shot a -1 round there once playing with members.
I forgot about this part of my golf game after thinking about those years...well it's been almost 30!

As a 25 year old assistant pro, playing was never my strong suit. I was focused on teaching, club repair and buy merchandise. I fell into a putting slump and decided to take a long putter (Ping) out to the practice green. I messed around for a couple of weeks and really got the hang of it. I felt it was a much better way to stand upright and have a better touch for the super fast greens at butler. Of course everyone was laughing that I was using it, back then it was mostly just sr. tour players who used long putters.

But it changed my game and gave me some incredible confidence from tee to green. When was I putting with the long dong and had great confidence is when I shot that round and it was also when I finished 5th in a local PGA section event.
 
As a early to mid 20 year old I shot a few +2 at local courses. Definitely had some -1 and -2 on the front sort of rounds that resulted in me choking away a shot at par over the last few holes
 
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Honestly hitting it as far as possible for an amateur makes a ton of sense to me because if the dispersion and consistency rate with, say, a five iron is comparable to the driver, may as well hit driver.
I was more alluding to laying up to a club that I am more consistent with instead of hitting up to a spot I suck at. With any of these things if you hit a bad shot (which can happen to me at any time with any club) it doesn't really matter what you were trying to do.

However, I know that if I am between 30-80 yds I know that 98% of the time I will never get on the green in one shot. But from 125-150 yds I will probably be about 50-70% to get on the green from there. This probably fits your second point which is hit the shot you have today. It's just most of the time it's more fun to grab that 3 wood and swing from the heals in the off chance you pure it. hahahah
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:

Approach Distance – All lie types Avg. Green Success Avg. Shots to Finish
50 – 70 63.13% 3.13
70 – 90 57.80% 3.25
90 – 110 52.70% 3.33
110 – 130 45.64% 3.42
130 – 150 38.64% 3.52

The above numbers strongly disagree with your claim about being better from 150 as opposed to 30-80. Heck, there's the infamous stat that Tiger freaking Woods only hits the green ~80% of the time from 100-110 (which for most is a full wedge of some sort).

I get what you're saying about your personal impression of being better from distance with a full swing as opposed to being closer as there is some theory about that. However, the numbers do not support that for amateurs to pros and I surmise that this is sort of a Mandela Effect type scenario for you whereby you remember the "really good" shots from 150 (which probably felt and looked great) while you simultaneously recall the really bad shots from 50 yards (because those tend to be embarrassing and demoralizing in the moment because the green looks so close).

The above notwithstanding, my BIL/regular golfing partner who tracks all his stats incessantly on Arcos shooting similar results from 190 as he does from 100. But, that is more of an indictment from his lack of quality from 100 and, again, the numbers are even as opposed to your suggestion about being twice as good from triple the distance away.
 
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:
Here is my problem.......i do not have a club that hits those short distances. So I am either way short which then puts me into another terrible distance or I go long and again another terrible distance. I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).

Where from 130-150 I am consistently around the green or on the green. So even if I am not on I am a putter (if fringe/rough is short) or a little 5-10 yd chip to get on. I would say maybe 10-15% of the time I miss it bad enough to put me in a bad distance as described above.

I have no doubt that Joe Blow Golfer isn't as bad as this. It's totally a mental thing for sure which definitely plays into it. So while I am probably not as bad or good as I stated I am sure that I am still outside the norm. In the end, I probably am closer than the 3.13 to 3.52 shots to finish range you showed and skewed higher (3.5 to 3.75 type shift). Essentially my short game sucks. So while there was an exaggeration of the actual numbers, I am worse from inside 90 than I am from outside 130 with respect to being around/on the green.
 
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I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).
You should practice this shot. It's not that difficult :)
 
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:
Here is my problem.......i do not have a club that hits those short distances. So I am either way short which then puts me into another terrible distance or I go long and again another terrible distance. I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).

Where from 130-150 I am consistently around the green or on the green. So even if I am not on I am a putter (if fringe/rough is short) or a little 5-10 yd chip to get on. I would say maybe 10-15% of the time I miss it bad enough to put me in a bad distance as described above.

I have no doubt that Joe Blow Golfer isn't as bad as this. It's totally a mental thing for sure which definitely plays into it. So while I am probably not as bad or good as I stated I am sure that I am still outside the norm. In the end, I probably am closer than the 3.13 to 3.52 shots to finish range you showed and skewed higher (3.5 to 3.75 type shift). Essentially my short game sucks. So while there was an exaggeration of the actual numbers, I am worse from inside 90 than I am from outside 130 with respect to being around/on the green.
I mean there's definitely some individual variation, and some of it is practice too.

There's lots to work on in my golf game. But if I can put the ball at 60 yards +/- 5 from the center of the green, I am the most confident person in the world about dropping that ball right in the middle of the green with a 54 degree wedge. 40 yards? I feel decent but much scarier for me. Anything from 40 down to around 15? I'd really rather not. There's something about the natural ~3/4 swing at 60 yards that is super comfortable and consistent, whereas I'm fiddlier, can't get it quite right every time from closer in.
 
Anything from 40 down to around 15? I'd really rather not.
Just chip it from that distance. No need to try fly it up there
This feels like a talking-past. My point was I am bad at longer chips. lol.
It seemed to me you were saying you have to take a half swing with your 54 degree. I was suggesting you scrap that plan and take a PW or 9 iron and bounce it up rather than trying to fly it all the way
 
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:
Here is my problem.......i do not have a club that hits those short distances. So I am either way short which then puts me into another terrible distance or I go long and again another terrible distance. I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).

Where from 130-150 I am consistently around the green or on the green. So even if I am not on I am a putter (if fringe/rough is short) or a little 5-10 yd chip to get on. I would say maybe 10-15% of the time I miss it bad enough to put me in a bad distance as described above.

I have no doubt that Joe Blow Golfer isn't as bad as this. It's totally a mental thing for sure which definitely plays into it. So while I am probably not as bad or good as I stated I am sure that I am still outside the norm. In the end, I probably am closer than the 3.13 to 3.52 shots to finish range you showed and skewed higher (3.5 to 3.75 type shift). Essentially my short game sucks. So while there was an exaggeration of the actual numbers, I am worse from inside 90 than I am from outside 130 with respect to being around/on the green.
I mean there's definitely some individual variation, and some of it is practice too.

There's lots to work on in my golf game. But if I can put the ball at 60 yards +/- 5 from the center of the green, I am the most confident person in the world about dropping that ball right in the middle of the green with a 54 degree wedge. 40 yards? I feel decent but much scarier for me. Anything from 40 down to around 15? I'd really rather not. There's something about the natural ~3/4 swing at 60 yards that is super comfortable and consistent, whereas I'm fiddlier, can't get it quite right every time from closer in.
Do you have a lob wedge? I loathe anything between 75 and 100, but that thing serves me very well from 75 down to the long chips, ~30something.
 
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:
Here is my problem.......i do not have a club that hits those short distances. So I am either way short which then puts me into another terrible distance or I go long and again another terrible distance. I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).

Where from 130-150 I am consistently around the green or on the green. So even if I am not on I am a putter (if fringe/rough is short) or a little 5-10 yd chip to get on. I would say maybe 10-15% of the time I miss it bad enough to put me in a bad distance as described above.

I have no doubt that Joe Blow Golfer isn't as bad as this. It's totally a mental thing for sure which definitely plays into it. So while I am probably not as bad or good as I stated I am sure that I am still outside the norm. In the end, I probably am closer than the 3.13 to 3.52 shots to finish range you showed and skewed higher (3.5 to 3.75 type shift). Essentially my short game sucks. So while there was an exaggeration of the actual numbers, I am worse from inside 90 than I am from outside 130 with respect to being around/on the green.
I mean there's definitely some individual variation, and some of it is practice too.

There's lots to work on in my golf game. But if I can put the ball at 60 yards +/- 5 from the center of the green, I am the most confident person in the world about dropping that ball right in the middle of the green with a 54 degree wedge. 40 yards? I feel decent but much scarier for me. Anything from 40 down to around 15? I'd really rather not. There's something about the natural ~3/4 swing at 60 yards that is super comfortable and consistent, whereas I'm fiddlier, can't get it quite right every time from closer in.
Do you have a lob wedge? I loathe anything between 75 and 100, but that thing serves me very well from 75 down to the long chips, ~30something.
I have a 58, but even that is too much loft for my hitting ability most times. It can be nice when short sided and chipping too far for a putt, but it rarely leaves the bag until I have enough confidence that I'm not just gonna dig into the ground a little fat or slide right under the ball and it goes nowhere.

I like 75-100. 80-ish is a full 54, 93-ish is a full 50, 105-ish if a full AW
 
I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).
You should practice this shot. It's not that difficult :)
I golf maybe 5 times a year in a good year. Sitting on the driving range practicing these things doesn't seem to help much mainly because I have no idea what I am doing..hahahah

I am probably at the point I need a lessen to really make any real improvement.
 
I play golf maybe 6 times per year, plus another 4-6 driving range sessions per year.

Best round ever is a 90, at numerous different courses. My usual score is 96-102. Never made an eagle in my life. Never birdied back to back holes before, and never carded more than 2 birdies in any one round. I'm as close to a pure bogey golfer as you can be, and I'm 100% fine with that. As long as I can keep out of the rough and keep up the pace with the group, I'm perfectly happy and don't really have the drive to improve. I mostly play with customer clients, so the round is about them, not me. I just keep up, and don't threaten anybody else with my score...
 
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:
Here is my problem.......i do not have a club that hits those short distances. So I am either way short which then puts me into another terrible distance or I go long and again another terrible distance. I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).

Where from 130-150 I am consistently around the green or on the green. So even if I am not on I am a putter (if fringe/rough is short) or a little 5-10 yd chip to get on. I would say maybe 10-15% of the time I miss it bad enough to put me in a bad distance as described above.

I have no doubt that Joe Blow Golfer isn't as bad as this. It's totally a mental thing for sure which definitely plays into it. So while I am probably not as bad or good as I stated I am sure that I am still outside the norm. In the end, I probably am closer than the 3.13 to 3.52 shots to finish range you showed and skewed higher (3.5 to 3.75 type shift). Essentially my short game sucks. So while there was an exaggeration of the actual numbers, I am worse from inside 90 than I am from outside 130 with respect to being around/on the green.
I mean there's definitely some individual variation, and some of it is practice too.

There's lots to work on in my golf game. But if I can put the ball at 60 yards +/- 5 from the center of the green, I am the most confident person in the world about dropping that ball right in the middle of the green with a 54 degree wedge. 40 yards? I feel decent but much scarier for me. Anything from 40 down to around 15? I'd really rather not. There's something about the natural ~3/4 swing at 60 yards that is super comfortable and consistent, whereas I'm fiddlier, can't get it quite right every time from closer in.
old man golf (low bump and run) to the rescue.
 
With all due respect, the stats from "Shot Scope" would strongly suggest you're either mistaken or you're a massive, massive outlier comparable to a human with multiple heads. Here is the consensus results for golfers from the fairway per Shot Scope:
Here is my problem.......i do not have a club that hits those short distances. So I am either way short which then puts me into another terrible distance or I go long and again another terrible distance. I think it would be memorable if I have ever landed one from 50-80 yds and I cannot remember ever hitting the green from those distances. I am sure I have in the 30 yrs I have been golfing but probably less than 10 times in the past 5 years (probably about 25-30 rounds).

Where from 130-150 I am consistently around the green or on the green. So even if I am not on I am a putter (if fringe/rough is short) or a little 5-10 yd chip to get on. I would say maybe 10-15% of the time I miss it bad enough to put me in a bad distance as described above.

I have no doubt that Joe Blow Golfer isn't as bad as this. It's totally a mental thing for sure which definitely plays into it. So while I am probably not as bad or good as I stated I am sure that I am still outside the norm. In the end, I probably am closer than the 3.13 to 3.52 shots to finish range you showed and skewed higher (3.5 to 3.75 type shift). Essentially my short game sucks. So while there was an exaggeration of the actual numbers, I am worse from inside 90 than I am from outside 130 with respect to being around/on the green.
I hit my pitching wedge around 80-90 yds. I don't own a lob wedge, and I only use my sand wedge in the sand. From as I get closer, I start to use a 9 or 8 and play the ball low w/ lots of spin, especially if the green is open in front of me.

I don't care what I'm supposed to do, all I care about is the score on the score card.
 
How about my brother’s best round? Summer 1975, persimmon woods & balata balls

Sunday morning dew sweeper, still a ‘lil foggy on the first tee. Played with my dad and our boss (club owner)

Our home course

1 mile from our house, we both rode mini bikes up an abandoned RR bed to work. At sunrise each day, I mowed the fairways, he mowed the greens & changed 3 cups.

Public course, walking
Par 35 3105 yards (old front 9)
  1. Par 4 375 - dogleg left, D, PW, birdie
  2. Par 4 350 - 30’ downhill, D, PW, birdie
  3. Par 4 380 - dogleg left, D, PW, birdie
  4. Par 3 165 - 60’ downhill, largest green on course, 4 bunkers, 8i, birdie
  5. Par 3 195 - over creek, 2-tier green, 5i, 2 putt par
  6. Par 4 330 - 75’ uphill - D, PW, 2 putt par
  7. Par 5 525 - 25’ downhill dogleg left, green protected by creek & bunkers - D, 7I, 2 putt birdie
  8. Par 4 425 - uphill 60’, D, PW, 2 putt par
  9. Par 4 360 - downhill 40’, 6 bunkers, D into green side sand trap, blast out to 4’, birdie
29
7/7 fwy
9/9 GIR
13 putts

I still have the scorecard

club owner shot a 36, dad a 40, and a 44 for me (12 years old)

my brother was 17 when this happened, played to around +2.0 hdcp, 4th summer of scratch or better - won the Championship Flight at 14, same summer he spent two weeks at the Arnold Palmer Golf Academy at Stratton Mountain. That fall he set his h.s. scoring record for 3rd time in 4 years.
 

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