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Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died... (1 Viewer)

The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
 
'dgreen said:
'The Commish said:
'GroveDiesel said:
'The Commish said:
Why does anyone care? That's what I don't get :unsure: It baffles me that this has become the "news" it has.
I'm actually starting to feel kind of sorry for him. If he was in on it, then he was using the story to cover something up. Whether it was the fact that he's gay, socially awkward, or whatever the original reason was, it seems that he got trapped in the story he created and it spiraled out of control. A fake cancer story is pretty messed up, so I think some criticism is warranted and lying definitely has its consequences. But the vitriol and glee at his situation is a bit unsettling to me. He's a guy that at around 19 years old dug himself into a dumb lie for whatever reason he thought he needed to at the time. His entire world is caving in on him now right before the most important moment of his life. And plenty of people seem content to pile on and rip him to shreds.
So is the "interest" because his made up girlfriend died of cancer or that he made up a girlfriend in the first place. I just don't get it. A 19 year old kid making up a girlfriend??? You'd think this is the first time anyone's heard of such a thing.
The interest is trying to figure out what the heck is going on.
:lmao:
 
'Mr. Pickles said:
This reminds me of Casey Anthony's family buying into her lies, and even that was only a month of BS before they couldn't take it anymore.
You sure they weren't in on it? Not the killing part, but the coverup?
 
'Jewell said:
I was listening to an interview with one of Te'o's high school teammates. The young man said that the attended a private school and Te'o lived about an hour away. Apparently, throughout high school Te'o would tell his friends and teammates that he had girlfriends in his town or far away, but nobody ever met these girlfriends.

Say, hypothetically but possibly, that Te'o is gay and he's been inventing girlfriends for years as a cover. That would obviously mean that he's very insecure about coining out. If he is indeed gay and he is in fact that insecure about it, what if becoming a national laughing stock over a story that is sexuality is at the heart of causes him to do something drastic like some of the other stories we've heard about gay kids killing themselves because they've been "bullied" or outed. Would that be the biggest collective egg-on-your-face for those making Te'o a laughing stock?

With all that said, this thread is hysterical, and I love all the jokes so keep them coming. :thumbup:
Honestly, I don't think there would be a ton of remorse for a person who made up a story about having a girlfriend and then killed "her" with cancer, and then played up that emotional tragedy to the media. I think the gay angle is off. He is a deeply religious person and could have easily used that to hide his lack of dating, especially at Notre Dame.
Even more reason for him to feel such shame about his sexuality (if he's gay). Some cultures also have a strong aversion to homosexuality. I'm not sure how much homosexuality is frowned down on in the Samoan community.

 
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In the gay scenario, I doubt that Te'o is the one that "kills her off." Obviously it's all speculation, but if I were writing it as a screenplay, Tuiasopopo would call Manti and tell him it's over. And that the Twitter account is just going to go dark. And that Te'o will tell everyone that Lennay died or Tuiasopopo will reveal that he's gay.

 
'IvanKaramazov said:
'Worm said:
Most likely scenario seems to be that Teo was scammed, but that he willfully embellished large parts of the relationship/story.
The "he was scammed" theory requires that you believe Te'o to be a massive idiot and to rationalize away a bunch of lies in a very precise, just-so manner and to just ignore some plot holes.The "he was in on it" theory only requires you to believe that Te'o was dishonest all along and provides a simple, all-encompassing explanation of this entire story.

It seems to me that the second theory is more likely than the first.
:goodposting: It seems like ESPN is running with the first theory though, to no surprise.

 
'Billy Bats said:
So how many people were in on the catfish?? He spoke of her family giving support after she died. Who told him about the funeral? I feel bad for the losers involved in perpetrating this scam. How much a life do you not have to be able to pull off this charade for three years, and what's the motive? This is epic fishing that doesn't make sense or even plausible which is why I think people are interested in uncovering the full truth when it comes to Manti.
Yeah, let's say it was like 4-5 losers that scammed him....what's the end game? What do they do after they "got" him? High fives all around and then what?
 
'Jewell said:
I was listening to an interview with one of Te'o's high school teammates. The young man said that the attended a private school and Te'o lived about an hour away. Apparently, throughout high school Te'o would tell his friends and teammates that he had girlfriends in his town or far away, but nobody ever met these girlfriends.

Say, hypothetically but possibly, that Te'o is gay and he's been inventing girlfriends for years as a cover. That would obviously mean that he's very insecure about coining out. If he is indeed gay and he is in fact that insecure about it, what if becoming a national laughing stock over a story that is sexuality is at the heart of causes him to do something drastic like some of the other stories we've heard about gay kids killing themselves because they've been "bullied" or outed. Would that be the biggest collective egg-on-your-face for those making Te'o a laughing stock?

With all that said, this thread is hysterical, and I love all the jokes so keep them coming. :thumbup:
Honestly, I don't think there would be a ton of remorse for a person who made up a story about having a girlfriend and then killed "her" with cancer, and then played up that emotional tragedy to the media. I think the gay angle is off. He is a deeply religious person and could have easily used that to hide his lack of dating, especially at Notre Dame.
Even more reason for him to feel such shame about his sexuality (if he's gay). Some cultures also have a strong aversion to homosexuality. I'm not sure how much homosexuality is frowned down on in the Samoan community.
I believe I have read that it is extremely frowned upon.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
This is another thing that could be explained if Manti is gay. If he confessed this to the AD and told him he's terrified of this becoming known it explains all of his actions. It also explains why the AD went on TV and awkwardly stood up for a story he couldn't possibly believe. He's taking the hit for a kid he believes is scared.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
This is another thing that could be explained if Manti is gay. If he confessed this to the AD and told him he's terrified of this becoming known it explains all of his actions. It also explains why the AD went on TV and awkwardly stood up for a story he couldn't possibly believe. He's taking the hit for a kid he believes is scared.
Aha, the AD and Manti were dating!
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
This is another thing that could be explained if Manti is gay. If he confessed this to the AD and told him he's terrified of this becoming known it explains all of his actions. It also explains why the AD went on TV and awkwardly stood up for a story he couldn't possibly believe. He's taking the hit for a kid he believes is scared.
If the AD wanted this to go away all he had to say was, yeah we investigated this, here are the phone records, here are the chat transcripts here is the investigation report. We are alerting the authorities just to cover our bases that this is not an extortion attempt.
 
'Billy Bats said:
So how many people were in on the catfish?? He spoke of her family giving support after she died. Who told him about the funeral? I feel bad for the losers involved in perpetrating this scam. How much a life do you not have to be able to pull off this charade for three years, and what's the motive? This is epic fishing that doesn't make sense or even plausible which is why I think people are interested in uncovering the full truth when it comes to Manti.
Yeah, let's say it was like 4-5 losers that scammed him....what's the end game? What do they do after they "got" him? High fives all around and then what?
Who knows. Some mom of a middle school girl made up a fake boy and pretended to date a girl in her daughter's class. She then "dumped" the girl and used the account to humiliate the girl until the girl committed suicide. What was the motive of that middle aged woman other than being a twisted messed up individual that got off on screwing with someone else.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
Let's say the AD doesn't believe it. What's the harm in coming out and supporting the player, even if it's later found out the story is a lie? It makes ND look too eager in coming out and supporting a star player? That doesn't seem too bad. It would probably be a plus in recruiting.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
If this is true, if, then why did they continue to allow the media to cover the death?Why not alert the authoritys to make sure this wasnt an extortion attempt?
 
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The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
This is another thing that could be explained if Manti is gay. If he confessed this to the AD and told him he's terrified of this becoming known it explains all of his actions. It also explains why the AD went on TV and awkwardly stood up for a story he couldn't possibly believe. He's taking the hit for a kid he believes is scared.
If the AD wanted this to go away all he had to say was, yeah we investigated this, here are the phone records, here are the chat transcripts here is the investigation report. We are alerting the authorities just to cover our bases that this is not an extortion attempt.
Why would the AD hand over phone records and a report that he knows won't confirm the story he's telling?
 
'Billy Bats said:
So how many people were in on the catfish?? He spoke of her family giving support after she died. Who told him about the funeral? I feel bad for the losers involved in perpetrating this scam. How much a life do you not have to be able to pull off this charade for three years, and what's the motive? This is epic fishing that doesn't make sense or even plausible which is why I think people are interested in uncovering the full truth when it comes to Manti.
Yeah, let's say it was like 4-5 losers that scammed him....what's the end game? What do they do after they "got" him? High fives all around and then what?
Yeah? Granted there was no way to know it would get this big i.e. "catfishing" a possible Heisman but I've done gags for less. Perhaps they were trying to make a name for themselves or just be pranksters. Isn't he friends with this Tuiasosopo? Maybe they played a joke that went too far and by then it was too late? Or he resented Manti?
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
This is another thing that could be explained if Manti is gay. If he confessed this to the AD and told him he's terrified of this becoming known it explains all of his actions. It also explains why the AD went on TV and awkwardly stood up for a story he couldn't possibly believe. He's taking the hit for a kid he believes is scared.
There's a way to respond to the story, keep Manti's confidences, and not vouch for him the way the AD did. You say that you've investigated, that you've confirmed that there was some hoax and that you were unable to find conclusive evidence that Manti is involved. And that you view the matter as closed on your end. You don't vouch for Manti. You don't choke up.I just don't believe the guy would risk his reputation if he didn't think it checked out somehow. Which doesn't prove anything, just that his investigators found the story consistent.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
If this is true, if, then why did they continue to allow the media to cover the death?Why not alert the authoritys to make sure this wasnt an extortion attempt?
My guess would be to have no distractions before the championship game.
 
As far as college sports controversies go lately, this one, while highly entertaining, seems pretty mild and harmless. The AD probably even slept last night.

 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
Let's say the AD doesn't believe it. What's the harm in coming out and supporting the player, even if it's later found out the story is a lie? It makes ND look too eager in coming out and supporting a star player? That doesn't seem too bad. It would probably be a plus in recruiting.
He said ND investigated it, then they hired a PI to investigate it and they suspected a crime but didnt call the cops and they let him continue to lie to the media. Honorable people dont do that.
 
I believe him

vote Ronaiah Tuiasosop

proxy Manti

i never really bought the girlfriend fake, she's prolly a wolf.

 
So, how would Teo's dad play into the Gay theory?He's shown himself to be a controlling tool with the newspaper ban....does that lead you to believe Teo would be afraid of him and drive him to hide his sexual preference even more, or does it lead you to believe he controls almost everything in Manti's life and was in on the hoax?

 
once we run up Ronniah i think we go after Marques.Anyone who saw him as a Raider knew the guy was wolf to the core

 
'Billy Bats said:
So how many people were in on the catfish?? He spoke of her family giving support after she died. Who told him about the funeral? I feel bad for the losers involved in perpetrating this scam. How much a life do you not have to be able to pull off this charade for three years, and what's the motive? This is epic fishing that doesn't make sense or even plausible which is why I think people are interested in uncovering the full truth when it comes to Manti.
Yeah, let's say it was like 4-5 losers that scammed him....what's the end game? What do they do after they "got" him? High fives all around and then what?
A real big GOTCHA? :shrug: Some people are really sick and twisted. Supposedly he found out when she called him back and said hey I'm alive, lets continue our relationship. WTF?! :lmao:
 
Let's say the AD doesn't believe it. What's the harm in coming out and supporting the player, even if it's later found out the story is a lie? It makes ND look too eager in coming out and supporting a star player? That doesn't seem too bad. It would probably be a plus in recruiting.
It makes a senior administrator at Notre Dame complicit in a lie to protect its football program. At a school that is already facing whisper campaigns about the protection of football players in a cultural setting where that is very much a matter of public concern. He'd be crazy to do that.
 
'Billy Bats said:
So how many people were in on the catfish?? He spoke of her family giving support after she died. Who told him about the funeral? I feel bad for the losers involved in perpetrating this scam. How much a life do you not have to be able to pull off this charade for three years, and what's the motive? This is epic fishing that doesn't make sense or even plausible which is why I think people are interested in uncovering the full truth when it comes to Manti.
Yeah, let's say it was like 4-5 losers that scammed him....what's the end game? What do they do after they "got" him? High fives all around and then what?
A real big GOTCHA? :shrug: Some people are really sick and twisted. Supposedly he found out when she called him back and said hey I'm alive, lets continue our relationship. WTF?! :lmao:
umconfusion is the currency of the werewolf. They were misleading an NCAA GGRP in an attempt to confuse the village and continue killing people at night.Werewolves have only one end game, death to all non wolves.This is pretty simple stuff.
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
Let's say the AD doesn't believe it. What's the harm in coming out and supporting the player, even if it's later found out the story is a lie? It makes ND look too eager in coming out and supporting a star player? That doesn't seem too bad. It would probably be a plus in recruiting.
Exactly. Nothing wrong with a major college football program covering something up to make themselves look better. :unsure:
 
The AD is going to lose his job once the dust settles.
Why?This is certainly a fascinating, weird story. But it's not like anybody has been hurt by it. Is there some sort of crime here?
He supposedly investigated this but still supports Manti. He knew of the hoax on the 26th but still allowed the hoax to be ran through the media circles. He kept all of this secret until Deadspin broke it. he is a dead man
That the AD believes Manti supports the inference that Manti was duped, IMO. I just don't believe that the guy would hang his neck out on the line over this. You can't expect him to report this on the 26th. That's crazy. He needs to hire investigators and try to corroborate Manti's story. After that, it's very much a privacy issue. He arguably had a duty to keep Te'o's confidences. Maybe he didn't, I haven't looked into it, but I doubt this situation is covered in the athletic director handbook.
Let's say the AD doesn't believe it. What's the harm in coming out and supporting the player, even if it's later found out the story is a lie? It makes ND look too eager in coming out and supporting a star player? That doesn't seem too bad. It would probably be a plus in recruiting.
He said ND investigated it, then they hired a PI to investigate it and they suspected a crime but didnt call the cops and they let him continue to lie to the media. Honorable people dont do that.
Sorry, I know you're eager to "get" Notre Dame over this, but I don't see any crime here.
 
He also claimed in an ESPN interview that he would call her every night for 4 weeks(?) while she was in the hospital and talk to her for 8 hours until they went to sleep - if I'm running a catfish scam on him thats a LOT of work to continue on a nightly basis. As people are saying above - for what High fives and yuks?

 
Let's say the AD doesn't believe it. What's the harm in coming out and supporting the player, even if it's later found out the story is a lie? It makes ND look too eager in coming out and supporting a star player? That doesn't seem too bad. It would probably be a plus in recruiting.
It makes a senior administrator at Notre Dame complicit in a lie to protect its football program. At a school that is already facing whisper campaigns about the protection of football players in a cultural setting where that is very much a matter of public concern. He'd be crazy to do that.
He doesn't have to know it's a lie now.
 
In the gay scenario, I doubt that Te'o is the one that "kills her off." Obviously it's all speculation, but if I were writing it as a screenplay, Tuiasopopo would call Manti and tell him it's over. And that the Twitter account is just going to go dark. And that Te'o will tell everyone that Lennay died or Tuiasopopo will reveal that he's gay.
I'm trying to do a little Occum's Razor on this, and for the life of me, I'm still drawing a blank.Where I am is that the simplest solution is that he was ####ed with by these other guys, because you guys find bizzare things funny. A random trip to :e: shows you that. It would not suprise me in the SLIGHTEST if I heard that 3 or 4 ###-clowns kept up a Catfish-like prank of a religious doofus for 2 years straight. Heck, the longer it went on, the funnier it would be to them. This doesn't mean they are sociopaths. It just means they are 20 year old ###-hats with strange senses of humor. The ONLY thing that you have to "stretch" to believe is that some guy is gullible enough to get duped. And I believe there are people out there that are.As far as family members saying that they met her, or him saying he met her to family members -- Again, I find it believable that a person would lie about that. Have any of you seen those Jimmy Kimble skits where he asks people on the street who they thought did better in some imaginary (rediculous) competition that was supposedly on TV the night before? He'll get dozens of perfectly reasonable people to say, on camera, that they watched the competition and thought Person X won. (the episode I saw asked people to opine on the "First Lady Debate" the night before between Michelle Obama and Anne Romney. And people claimed they watched it!Anyway, all of that is more believable to me than Te'o was in on some hoax to fool the country . . . for what, exactly? To throw people off the scent that he's gay? Please. Only a true idiot would think you would need to do something like that. With all the fake twitter accounts, and pulling some random girl's photo? It just doesn't make sense. To get more press for a Heisman? Really? I don't buy it.It is more believable to me that he is a ####### who got fooled. Although I like the story more if he was in on it.
 
'Billy Bats said:
So how many people were in on the catfish?? He spoke of her family giving support after she died. Who told him about the funeral? I feel bad for the losers involved in perpetrating this scam. How much a life do you not have to be able to pull off this charade for three years, and what's the motive? This is epic fishing that doesn't make sense or even plausible which is why I think people are interested in uncovering the full truth when it comes to Manti.
Yeah, let's say it was like 4-5 losers that scammed him....what's the end game? What do they do after they "got" him? High fives all around and then what?
Yes.
 
He also claimed in an ESPN interview that he would call her every night for 4 weeks(?) while she was in the hospital and talk to her for 8 hours until they went to sleep - if I'm running a catfish scam on him thats a LOT of work to continue on a nightly basis. As people are saying above - for what High fives and yuks?
:goodposting:
 
Wait, is this the play everyone was talking about? Bowled over? I was expecting Earl Campbell or even Jacquizz Rodgers running through Earl Thomas last week. How can someone be "bowled" over when the RB isn't moving forward and it looks more like he missed his dive at the RB and Lavy was easily able step aside and push him further to the side.By the way, for a post above, doing a scam like that on Manti doesn't have to involve $$$ or some real goal at the end. There are a lot of effed up people (just look at the trolls on the FFA) who enjoy iSports just to screw with people for nothing other than their own satisfication. That said, I have no idea if Manti knew or not. Hard to believe he didn't know, but also not impossible to believe he didn't know and made up a lot of stuff out of embarassment/having to explain why he never met her.
 
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