Marco Rubio 2016 (1 Viewer)

[jamny]

So I'm guessing at this point a 2nd place in Iowa and/or NH would be considered a victory.

Hoping for at least one.

 

[Chadstroma]

So I'm guessing at this point a 2nd place in Iowa and/or NH would be considered a victory.

Hoping for at least one.

From the polls he looks like a solid 3rd in Iowa and perhaps 4th in NH. Back to 3rd in SC.

I think the hope has to be that he stays in the discussion there and when people actually start to get serious and perhaps trying to imagine a Trump White House or more likely a Clinton White House if they nominate him.... then Rubio or Kasich start moving up and came make the run from there.

 

[crnerblitz]

I dont know that Rubio or Kasich have the network to get fundraising post south carolina without a top two showing in one of those 3 states. The money will most likely dry up at that point and it will be a two horse race. I really think the electoral math in a general election would really favor Kasich or Rubio. A home state carry for either of those two would make a Democrat win difficult indeed. Karl Rove must be ready to eat someone.

 

[Chadstroma]

I dont know that Rubio or Kasich have the network to get fundraising post south carolina without a top two showing in one of those 3 states. The money will most likely dry up at that point and it will be a two horse race. I really think the electoral math in a general election would really favor Kasich or Rubio. A home state carry for either of those two would make a Democrat win difficult indeed. Karl Rove must be ready to eat someone.

The continued high polling for Trump and a lesser degree Cruz is what I think will end up helping Rubio the most. After the initial round of major primaries I think the bottom of the lineup will start to thin out. The financial support and votes will need to swing somewhere and I think it will be the person best positioned to challenge Trump/Cruz. Other than perhaps Paul supporters swinging to Cruz, I don't see much other support going to Cruz and almost nothing to Trump.

 

[Chadstroma]

BTW... this is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8nsYaS4Tv4

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I dont know that Rubio or Kasich have the network to get fundraising post south carolina without a top two showing in one of those 3 states. The money will most likely dry up at that point and it will be a two horse race. I really think the electoral math in a general election would really favor Kasich or Rubio. A home state carry for either of those two would make a Democrat win difficult indeed. Karl Rove must be ready to eat someone.

The continued high polling for Trump and a lesser degree Cruz is what I think will end up helping Rubio the most. After the initial round of major primaries I think the bottom of the lineup will start to thin out. The financial support and votes will need to swing somewhere and I think it will be the person best positioned to challenge Trump/Cruz. Other than perhaps Paul supporters swinging to Cruz, I don't see much other support going to Cruz and almost nothing to Trump.

People have been saying this for months and it hasn't happened. And there don't really seem to be enough votes between Rubio, Christie, Bush and Kasich to beat Trump even if the others dropped out and Rubio got most of their voters.

 

[Chadstroma]

I dont know that Rubio or Kasich have the network to get fundraising post south carolina without a top two showing in one of those 3 states. The money will most likely dry up at that point and it will be a two horse race. I really think the electoral math in a general election would really favor Kasich or Rubio. A home state carry for either of those two would make a Democrat win difficult indeed. Karl Rove must be ready to eat someone.

The continued high polling for Trump and a lesser degree Cruz is what I think will end up helping Rubio the most. After the initial round of major primaries I think the bottom of the lineup will start to thin out. The financial support and votes will need to swing somewhere and I think it will be the person best positioned to challenge Trump/Cruz. Other than perhaps Paul supporters swinging to Cruz, I don't see much other support going to Cruz and almost nothing to Trump.

People have been saying this for months and it hasn't happened. And there don't really seem to be enough votes between Rubio, Christie, Bush and Kasich to beat Trump even if the others dropped out and Rubio got most of their voters.

Don't underestimate the big mo.

 

[jonessed]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

 

[timschochet]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

I don't disagree but the Democrats don't seem to want to win. They might reject Hillary and put in Sanders, which hands it right back to you guys. It's like one team fumbles and the other team fumbles next play.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Trump thread 200 pages

Rubio thread 4 pages

You can see Rubio really picking it up.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

I don't disagree but the Democrats don't seem to want to win. They might reject Hillary and put in Sanders, which hands it right back to you guys. It's like one team fumbles and the other team fumbles next play.

I C we're back on the same page here.

 

[Chadstroma]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

I know. And the sad thing is that if Trump is the nominee.... I am voting Clinton. Gawd.... I just threw up a little in my mouth.

 

[Chadstroma]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

I don't disagree but the Democrats don't seem to want to win. They might reject Hillary and put in Sanders, which hands it right back to you guys. It's like one team fumbles and the other team fumbles next play.

You know... if it is Trump vs Sanders then I give up on this country. Maybe we can hold best country to become a new citizen draft?

 

[Chadstroma]

Trump thread 200 pages

Rubio thread 4 pages

You can see Rubio really picking it up.

How many of those pages are a handful of whacko supporters and then most everyone else mocking Trump and his whacko supporters? Hint.... it has a 2 and a couple of 0's.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I am down here in Florida and Rubio is the textbook example of a career politician with no skills to do anything else. He has never been able to balance his own checkbook, which has led to some questionable spending habits both with his gov't issue credit card and some of the deals he has had with political donors. He has not stood up for any issue, and the one that he did try to champion (immigration reform) almost blew up in his face and he had to backtrack severely from.

This is not a guy with principles. This is a politician that not only can be bought, he has been bought many times already, and still seems to not know how to keep manage the money he has gotten up until now.

He also gets flummoxed in the debates when he gets away from his prepackaged sound bites or anything that is off the cuff...

This gentleman gets it.

 

[jamny]

What's weird is that Rubio is rising in the polls and I'm liking him less.

This is the most frustrating election ever.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Rubio is just horrible when he goes off script and outside his coaching.

 

[dickey moe]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

I know. And the sad thing is that if Trump is the nominee.... I am voting Clinton. Gawd.... I just threw up a little in my mouth.

You don't have to vote, you know. If it comes down to those two I'm going to have to sit this one out.

 

[RnR]

What's weird is that Rubio is rising in the polls and I'm liking him less.

This is the most frustrating election ever.

 

[jamny]

Rubio is just horrible when he goes off script and outside his coaching.

I disagree. Sticking to the script is what I don't like.

 

[RnR]

Rubio is just horrible when he goes off script and outside his coaching.

I disagree. Sticking to the script is what I don't like.

Yep. He's much more appealing when he's not on the debate stage using his talking points.

 

[jamny]

Rubio is just horrible when he goes off script and outside his coaching.

I disagree. Sticking to the script is what I don't like.

Yep. He's much more appealing when he's not on the debate stage using his talking points.

I think the pressure might be getting to him. He has always been stiff at the debates but earlier in the campaign, he was really good on talk shows. Relaxed, making his points, joking a bit. He's really wired now. I only saw a little of the debate, I have it on DVR, but he really needs to lighten up a bit.

But people seem to like it. Most say he won the debate.

 

[RnR]

He may have "won", but I wasn't overly impressed. Too much overt pandering to Iowans and he used his same talking points from the last debate.

I guess maybe some people are watching for the first time and liked what they heard, but for those that have been paying attention I don't think he offered up too much last night.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Most say he won the debate.

Really? That surprises me - I've not seen that anywhere.

 

[jamny]

Most say he won the debate.

Really? That surprises me - I've not seen that anywhere.

Maybe most isn't accurate but I've seen it in multiple places.

 

[Fennis]

I love how he and Cruz are trying to one-up each other with how much they hate immigration, the whole while owing their citizenship to their immigrant parents.

Yeah see, that's just a stupid comment.

Well see, I'm rubber and you're glue.

Cruz accused Rubio of flip-flopping on amnesty for illegals today while Rubio accused Cruz of wanting to increase the number of green cards allowed. It's like a game of who hates their parents more. Is that not even a tad amusing?

You need to read some more.

Neither hate immigration.

Sorry, all I did was listen to the words coming out of their mouths.

That's a good thing. Look a little deeper and you'll realize that they don't hate immigration.

Dislike? Strong disapproval? What would you call it when they want to restrict it as much as possible? Both legal and illegal?

So did you disagree with the Gang of 8 bill?

Rubio didn't support the gang of 8 bill. And neither did Cruz.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Most say he won the debate.

Really? That surprises me - I've not seen that anywhere.

Maybe most isn't accurate but I've seen it in multiple places.

Upon further review I think you're right. I certainly didn't think he won - but I'm biased against him - but it looks like many do. Probably will help him Monday night.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I think he'll be the nominee. Not a fan though. Would be Clinton's toughest opponent. Young, Latino, Florida.

 

[SWC]

willie where did your podcasts go bromigo i miss your silky smooth voice and thoughtful thoughts did doans drop you if they did they can go to hell take that to the bank brohan

 

[SIDA!]

Doesn't help that Bush is dumping his entire arsenal on Rubio it seems.

I'm hoping Kasich gets the establishment support out of NH.

 

[RnR]

If that happens, I still think Rubio teams with Kasich and wins the election.

 

[HellToupee]

I have a feeling Rubio might be looking at 3rd or even 4th in NH

I think it's Trump crushing it followed by Jeb in 2nd

 

[jamny]

If that happens, I still think Rubio teams with Kasich and wins the election.

I like Kasich, I've liked him on talk shows for years. Kinda like Biden.

Perfect VP choice, imo

 

[jamny]

I have a feeling Rubio might be looking at 3rd or even 4th in NH

I think it's Trump crushing it followed by Jeb in 2nd

What we need is Mitt Romney.

This would be a slam dunk second term vote for him.

 

[jamny]

I love how he and Cruz are trying to one-up each other with how much they hate immigration, the whole while owing their citizenship to their immigrant parents.

Yeah see, that's just a stupid comment.

Well see, I'm rubber and you're glue.

Cruz accused Rubio of flip-flopping on amnesty for illegals today while Rubio accused Cruz of wanting to increase the number of green cards allowed. It's like a game of who hates their parents more. Is that not even a tad amusing?

You need to read some more.

Neither hate immigration.

Sorry, all I did was listen to the words coming out of their mouths.

That's a good thing. Look a little deeper and you'll realize that they don't hate immigration.

Dislike? Strong disapproval? What would you call it when they want to restrict it as much as possible? Both legal and illegal?

So did you disagree with the Gang of 8 bill?

Rubio didn't support the gang of 8 bill. And neither did Cruz.

I think they both did but caved.

 

[timschochet]

Yeah Cruz is consistently wrong on this issue. Rubio showed a brief moment of humanity and decency but it's gone now.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Yeah Cruz is consistently wrong on this issue. Rubio showed a brief moment of humanity and decency but it's gone now.

ETA: There's nothing inhuman or indecent about opposing illegal immigration.

But it is interesting that the closest thing to an accomplishment Rubio had - he's running away from.

I don't think claiming he "never" supported the Gang of Eight bill will work. He was one of the gang.

 

[John Bender]

Yeah Cruz is consistently wrong on this issue. Rubio showed a brief moment of humanity and decency but it's gone now.

ETA: There's nothing inhuman or indecent about opposing illegal immigration.

BIGOT!

 

[Fennis]

That's a good thing. Look a little deeper and you'll realize that they don't hate immigration.

Dislike? Strong disapproval? What would you call it when they want to restrict it as much as possible? Both legal and illegal?

So did you disagree with the Gang of 8 bill?

Rubio didn't support the gang of 8 bill. And neither did Cruz.

I think they both did but caved.

Ted Cruz never supported amnesty. In fact, Megyn Kelly conceded as much after the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=9q9ijJAjA20

And Rubio was in the gang of 8, but later denounced it and changed his mind. his current position is now opposite.

 

[Chadstroma]

I have a feeling Rubio might be looking at 3rd or even 4th in NH

I think it's Trump crushing it followed by Jeb in 2nd

Iowa looks like 3rd for Rubio though the polls show he is rising while Trump and Cruz are falling. It would be very surprising to see that swing that much for him to place higher than 3rd though.

NH he is actually in the 4th/5th territory. Kasich/Cruz are battling for 2nd and Bush/Rubio for 4th. Though all 4 are within striking distance of one another so it could end up in any order at this point.

SC he is solidly in 3rd again.

 

[[scooter]]

BTW... this is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8nsYaS4Tv4

Watch the video closely. The kid still didn't catch the ball! They show Rubio throwing it, then they awkwardly cut to a closeup of the kid with the ball already in his arms.

I wonder how many times Rubio threw him that ball before the director finally said "Screw it, we'll fix it in post!"

 

[SIDA!]

BTW... this is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8nsYaS4Tv4

Watch the video closely. The kid still didn't catch the ball! They show Rubio throwing it, then they awkwardly cut to a closeup of the kid with the ball already in his arms.

I wonder how many times Rubio threw him that ball before the director finally said "Screw it, we'll fix it in post!"

Good catch. I didn't notice that the first time I watched it.

 

[Quez]

Rubio is obsessed with Iran.

 

[flapgreen]

I can't believe it's come down to Trump or Cruz. Neither has the ability to win a general election. Might as well hand it to Hillary now. Idiots.

I don't disagree but the Democrats don't seem to want to win. They might reject Hillary and put in Sanders, which hands it right back to you guys. It's like one team fumbles and the other team fumbles next play.

I C we're back on the same page here.

Pretty much

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rubio is obsessed with Iran.

I think you have this nailed down. I can't listen to him because he never misses a chance to go on and on about it.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Rubio is obsessed with Iran.

I think you have this nailed down. I can't listen to him because he never misses a chance to go on and on about it.

Pretty smart long play on his part. If he doesn't get the nomination this time around he'll end up looking like Nostrodamus by the next cycle.

 

[jamny]

Ted Cruz never supported amnesty. In fact, Megyn Kelly conceded as much after the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=9q9ijJAjA20

Cruz's amendment to the Gang of 8 bill supported giving legal status to illegals. Unless you believe what he is saying after the fact that it was a poison pill designed to kill the bill. I don't believe that. In fact, Cruz never officially went on record as saying he opposed legalization until the December 15th debate.

 

[jamny]

And Rubio was in the gang of 8, but later denounced it and changed his mind. his current position is now opposite.

How is it opposite? It seems like what he was saying at the debate was similar to what the Gang of 8 bill had in it.

 

[jamny]

Like I said, if you believe Cruz now saying that his amendment was nothing but a poison pill, I can see your point but I don't believe that. He was very vocal, on multiple occasions stating that he thought the amendment was what was needed to get the bill passed.

 

[[scooter]]

Like I said, if you believe Cruz now saying that his amendment was nothing but a poison pill, I can see your point but I don't believe that. He was very vocal, on multiple occasions stating that he thought the amendment was what was needed to get the bill passed.

I don't understand how Cruz can think it makes him look good to admit that his amendment was a "poison pill". He passionately defended that amendment on the Senate floor, and publicly urged everyone to vote for it. That alone makes him look untrustworthy. Why should Republicans vote for a guy who played games with the voting process? Cruz basically admits that he risked the security of our country in a bizarre game of chicken.