Marital Advice - Friendly camping trip too friendly? (3 Viewers)

[H Jass]

I have a woman's perspective on this, but I do not have a lot of time right now. I will be back after I get out of work. All I have to say is this... She knows. I will explain why I believe this later. GL

 

[Bill Brasky]

I may have missed it but there is another point that needs to be made.Who in the world would hook-up in a camp grounds restroom? I've never seen a crapper at a campground that wasn't totally filthy.

 

[RudiStein]

I have a woman's perspective on this, but I do not have a lot of time right now. I will be back after I get out of work. All I have to say is this... She knows. I will explain why I believe this later. GL

Oh boy! A woman's perspective. That's going to clear everything up!

 

[PatsWillWin]

Get a black water gun. Paint the orange tip black. Go to Steve's house. Induce a confession. Squirt him between the eyes.

 

[Funkley]

Losing altitude fast......bet we hear some news soon.

 

[Godsbrother]

I wish I was fishing fellas. The reason I can't confront anyone else right now is because I am at work. Best I can do is try to get some work done this afternoon and head for home for round 2 tonight. I will eventually bring this thread to conclusion. Maybe things will become more clear after this evening.

The problem you have is that your wife and George are both saying they don't know and I am betting Steve follow suit or say that nothing happened and at that point you are done.You can believe that nothing happened or believe they did the dirty deed but you will never really know. Without completely destroying your life about the most you can do is keep your wife away from booze and Steve. You're going to have to let it go or it will fester and ruin your marriage.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Squirt him between the eyes.

I honestly don't think cheating with Steve is the answer.

 

[pricklypete]

Hat,

Have your thoughts changed since your original post?

Give us some details man. Where you at?

 

[Commish77]

I have a woman's perspective on this, but I do not have a lot of time right now. I will be back after I get out of work. All I have to say is this... She knows. I will explain why I believe this later. GL

The last thing this thread needs is another cliffhanger.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If she was as wasted as MITYH says she was, she's not thinking about covering up the encounter at that point. She's in "babbling incoherently" mode.

So she's too wasted to know that her boobs are hanging out and that she basically gave a good reason to suspect that she was cheating, but she wasn't wasted enough to be blacked out. She can conviently remember almost every aspect of the night except being in the stall with him, but if she did remember that, she is not smart enough to say that the whole night was a blackout. If she did do anything, she is a horrible liar.

 

[E-Z Glider]

I wish I was fishing fellas. The reason I can't confront anyone else right now is because I am at work. Best I can do is try to get some work done this afternoon and head for home for round 2 tonight. I will eventually bring this thread to conclusion. Maybe things will become more clear after this evening.

Wow. Good luck with that. An immediate and complete confession and apology is probably the only thing that could save this if it were me, and Im not even sure that would work. If I ever cheated on my wife, I would have to tell her. I just couldnt "forget about it" or live a lie. Pretty sure its the same for her. Good luck man. This is a conversation I hope I never have.

 

[Woz]

Jesus Christ you guys are scaring the hell out of this poor guy.

In before Woz finds a way to relate this story back to his hot-ex.

I dunno, I guess I just know what it feels like to be accused of cheating, understand that there is some reasons for other to have drawn that conclusion, but honestly hadn't done it but had nobody believe me. So, from that experience I can sympathize with the wife and on the chance she did nothing I don't want to see her husband crucify her yet before he knows for sure.

It was directly analogous.

I'm not saying it wasn't - still funny that someone called it.

Eh, odds were clearly in his favor.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Get a black water gun. Paint the orange tip black. Go to Steve's house. Induce a confession. Squirt him between the eyes.

Is this what you call payback? Simply doing to him what Steve did to his wife?

 

[Daywalker]

I may have missed it but there is another point that needs to be made.Who in the world would hook-up in a camp grounds restroom? I've never seen a crapper at a campground that wasn't totally filthy.

I don't mind sex in dirty places.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Over the course of my life I have been in many camp ground and rest area type bathrooms. They have varied in quality, but I can say with great assurance none were so nice that I would linger in them absent a very compelling reason. The only compelling reasons I can think of are sex, drugs being dispensed that I wanted, or raging diarrhea preventing me from leaving. I suppose an enraged grizzly outside the door might also have sufficed, but generally these are places one wants to exit with great haste.

 

[Third]

Two things you may want to try:1. Take your buddy George out for a few beers. Just shoot the shat for awhile, and after downing a few, he may be more eager to open up about what he knows.

With all due respect, there's no time for this type of approach. MIYH needs to find out what happened and find out immediately. No beating around the bush. If he really thinks George knows something, there's no point in waiting around for him to "open up." The better approach with George would be "look mother######, if you know something, you better spill it now - I'm about to go to Steve's wife on this and one way or another, it's going to come out."

 

[Karl Hungus]

Hi MITYH. You wife call to fix the cahble. That why they send me, I am expert.

 

[E-Z Glider]

I guess I am the only one who thinks she may not have done anything. I don't see anything in her denial that would be out of the ordinary for someone who was innocent. If she was guilty, I would have expected a more defiant tone. I just hear someone who may have some fuzzy details on a drunken night and was told that they did something that they have no recollection of.

I'd think most innocent women would be angry and upset. They would want to talk about and profess their innocense ad nauseum. They would want to contact the people involved and make sure everyone knew the truth. Not sulk back to their room to fold laundry and cry.

 

[PatsWillWin]

bump

 

[ElvisMonster]

MITY, I don't think you're fishing and I do think you REALLY want to believe that nothing happened. But I'm also sure that you know your wife better than any of us and if her actions and responses to this point have you this concerned, well...

Anyway, I hope it all comes out in the wash so that you can figure out what action to take without feeling like you're making those decisions, very important decisions, based on guess work and speculation.

I also want to restate that NONE of the people that were party to these events are going to be honest with you. They've ALL somehow managed to forget what happened when Steve and your wife went into a bathroom stall together? Are you f**king kidding me?! Brother, they're treating you like a mushroom. And if you don't let them know that you're not some kind of spineless pile of man-mush, you're not going to get the answers your looking for.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

She tasted the flesh, and the gravy.

 

[Funkley]

I guess I am the only one who thinks she may not have done anything. I don't see anything in her denial that would be out of the ordinary for someone who was innocent. If she was guilty, I would have expected a more defiant tone. I just hear someone who may have some fuzzy details on a drunken night and was told that they did something that they have no recollection of.

I'd think most innocent women would be angry and upset. They would want to talk about and profess their innocense ad nauseum. They would want to contact the people involved and make sure everyone knew the truth. Not sulk back to their room to fold laundry and cry.

It's what they do in the extended version. The alternate ending is the denial ending.

 

[flufhed]

I have a woman's perspective on this, but I do not have a lot of time right now. I will be back after I get out of work. All I have to say is this... She knows. I will explain why I believe this later. GL

 

[Strumey]

bump

If ever a thread there was that didnt need a bump, this was it!

 

[3C's]

I agree with KT.

 

[urbanhack]

If wife was in cover-up mode why didn't she just fix her bra and not point it out to MITYH that her boobs were hanging out?

This is a key, good point.If she knows she's been cheating, no way she volunteers the information that her boobs are hanging out.

Hmm excellent point by Daywalker

Not really.You can be sloppy and careless when you are wasted.

 

[UlyssesNorris]

Hi MITYH. You wife call to fix the cahble. That why they send me, I am expert.

OK,

 

[BelikinMan]

I'd think most innocent women would be angry and upset. They would want to talk about and profess their innocense ad nauseum. They would want to contact the people involved and make sure everyone knew the truth. Not sulk back to their room to fold laundry and cry.

Also, if you have given her a full day between arguments, she has covered all her bases for cleanup of the situation.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Surely sounds like a confession to me

In a roundabout way, I think she did too, that's what I was thinking. "She hopes she didn't do anything stupid?"

 

[doughboydeluxe]

Squirt him between the eyes.

I honestly don't think cheating with Steve is the answer.

 

[SecondCity34]

The fact that she "hopes" nothing happened along with her concern for what other wives think as opposed to her concern for what you have been going through as a result of this speaks volumes.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I agree with KT.

Its a small and lonely island we're on. Did you bring any beer?

 

[OldSchoolLikeThat]

for the results of Round 2 later tonight

 

[Sweet J]

Ok was just curious. Not to get on a high horse here, but if I KNEW (as in admission or other evidence to my satisfaction) I'd take one of 2 courses: marriage over or full forgiveness. I guess I just can't understand the payback thing. To each their own though.

Obviously you are missing option 3: poop on Steve's couch.

 

[pricklypete]

Ok was just curious. Not to get on a high horse here, but if I KNEW (as in admission or other evidence to my satisfaction) I'd take one of 2 courses: marriage over or full forgiveness. I guess I just can't understand the payback thing. To each their own though.

Obviously you are missing option 3: poop on Steve's couch.

I pooped in a guy's mailbox once.

 

[Sabertooth]

If MIYH's wife has consistently shown fidelity up till now, maybe she deserves the benefit of the doubt?

Please wait until page 18 before injecting logic and rational thinking in to this.

she ducks into the bathroom with a noted player and comes back with her bra undone and you think she gets a pass?

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Ok was just curious. Not to get on a high horse here, but if I KNEW (as in admission or other evidence to my satisfaction) I'd take one of 2 courses: marriage over or full forgiveness. I guess I just can't understand the payback thing. To each their own though.

Obviously you are missing option 3: poop on Steve's couch.

I pooped in a guy's mailbox once.

"Why?" would probably be the better question, but I'm going to go with "How?"

 

[AnonymousBob]

What does your wife look like? 5'5, about 140? I think Steve may not be her only experience...

 

[Ranethe]

Ok was just curious. Not to get on a high horse here, but if I KNEW (as in admission or other evidence to my satisfaction) I'd take one of 2 courses: marriage over or full forgiveness. I guess I just can't understand the payback thing. To each their own though.

Obviously you are missing option 3: poop on Steve's couch.

I pooped in a guy's mailbox once.

Seems like it would be physically very difficult?

 

[VASteel]

I agree with KT.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

If she was as wasted as MITYH says she was, she's not thinking about covering up the encounter at that point. She's in "babbling incoherently" mode.

So she's too wasted to know that her boobs are hanging out and that she basically gave a good reason to suspect that she was cheating, but she wasn't wasted enough to be blacked out.

Yes. It's quite feasible to be in this territory.

She can conviently remember almost every aspect of the night except being in the stall with him

She's lying about this. She remembers the stall too. Maybe not all of it and maybe not clearly, but she remembers something.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If MIYH's wife has consistently shown fidelity up till now, maybe she deserves the benefit of the doubt?

Please wait until page 18 before injecting logic and rational thinking in to this.

she ducks into the bathroom with a noted player and comes back with her bra undone and you think she gets a pass?

I'm not convinced she was ever in the bathroom stall with him. We have one guy's word on that and he can't even remember saying it. If the other guy that was there also does not remember seeing them in a stall together than this case is closed.

 

[simey]

I guess I am the only one who thinks she may not have done anything. I don't see anything in her denial that would be out of the ordinary for someone who was innocent. If she was guilty, I would have expected a more defiant tone. I just hear someone who may have some fuzzy details on a drunken night and was told that they did something that they have no recollection of.

I agree with you.

 

[The Bad CEO]

Ok was just curious. Not to get on a high horse here, but if I KNEW (as in admission or other evidence to my satisfaction) I'd take one of 2 courses: marriage over or full forgiveness. I guess I just can't understand the payback thing. To each their own though.

Obviously you are missing option 3: poop on Steve's couch.

I pooped in a guy's mailbox once.

Seems like it would be physically very difficult?

Projectile Poop down?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I agree with you.

This is becoming quite the happening island.

 

[Stevie]

I just read what happened and skipped all the rest, so not sure if I'm missing out on anything that may have been added.I say just let it go. You saw the flirting, George was trying to tell you something, and you just laughed it off. Y'all were drunk, which is no excuse, but it's over and done with. Next time listen to George when he points out that they're not back yet. He seemed more concerned about it than you did.

You cheated on your ex-husband, right?

Depends how you define cheating.

Just out of curiosity, how do you define cheating?

There's physical cheating and then there's emotional cheating.

I am money on both

 

[Bouncing Beatnik]

If MIYH's wife has consistently shown fidelity up till now, maybe she deserves the benefit of the doubt?

Please wait until page 18 before injecting logic and rational thinking in to this.

she ducks into the bathroom with a noted player and comes back with her bra undone and you think she gets a pass?

Someone *said* she ducked into the bathroom with a noted player. She was drunk - clothing mishaps happen (Janet Jackson), and I'm guessing more so if you're drunk.Didn't say she gets a pass no matter what - just asked Yellow Hat what her history has been. Did you see my original post, or just the small piece of it quoted above?

 

[pricklypete]

Ok was just curious. Not to get on a high horse here, but if I KNEW (as in admission or other evidence to my satisfaction) I'd take one of 2 courses: marriage over or full forgiveness. I guess I just can't understand the payback thing. To each their own though.

Obviously you are missing option 3: poop on Steve's couch.

I pooped in a guy's mailbox once.

"Why?" would probably be the better question, but I'm going to go with "How?"

Very carefully.

Actually, it was standing on top of a threaded pipe. Just unscrewed it, laid the box upright and dropped the duece.

We were like 12 years old. Staked out the mailbox all night not trusting we would be awake when he checked it (guy woke up at the crack of dawn).

Hilarity ensued.

 

[3C's]

I agree with you.

This is becoming quite the happening island.

I'm liking how this is starting to play out. No beer though. I have to work tonight.

 

[VASteel]

I agree with you.

This is becoming quite the happening island.

Why does George's conveniant lack of memory prove anything? Hat heard him say they were in there together at the time. He was there and his gut told him something suspicious was going on, what else does he need outhouse cam? I'm not saying its 100% they did it but its very suspicious.How in the world has this guy not confronted Steve yet?