Marital Advice - Friendly camping trip too friendly? (1 Viewer)

[HarryManback]

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didn't think anyone would notice.

I'm mad observant.

 

[Sheriff66]

sleep with Steve's wife at the wedding...report back...that is all

This is THE only solution....

 

[Woz]

I'm not a frequent poster, but have been around since the cheatsheets.net days as a long-time lurker. I've sympathized with MITYH since page 2 when I got on this train, and have felt pretty bad for the guy while he was getting beat up for not "Mannning Up". I didn't understand why I felt like this since I too agreed that he should have done more, but I stepped back I found out why. MITYH and I are cut from the same cloth, so much so that it could have been me writing the original post. I have many similarities and traits; I live and work in southcentral WI, am probably around the same age, have similar group of friends, and am also far from an Alpha Male since I am passive (or alternately passive-aggressive), avoid confrontation in all but the most serious circumstances, am a "nice guy", and want to trust and believe in people despite evidence showing otherwise. I've been stepped on a few times and can physically defend myself if need be, but have never been in, nor hope to be in, a physical "fight" per se. I can see his rationalization for his actions throughout the process, since I too would likely rationalize and procede in much the same way. I have to say it's an inherent personality trait and it is what it is, it is neither good or bad, right or wrong. He or I will never be the loud, brash and overly confident Alpha Male that many are suggesting he become overnight. His wife chose to be with him knowing full well this is who he is, for better or worse and whether she "settled" or not is irrelevant.I find it hard to believe based on the tale woven that something didn't happen in the bathroom, and find it harder to believe that she doesn't remember. 'Deny to the bitter end' is what I've read over and over from those involved with infedelity, a convenient out is what it is. Hell, if I was in her shoes, I'd do the same thing if I didn't want a divorce and really just made a stupid mistake. Even if the right thing to do is to admit her guilt, spill the beans and beg forgiveness, I doubt she ever will. As others have mentioned, to find out exactly what happened, George needs to be interrigated and not let up until you get the answers you're looking for. ..And those who think George isn't a good friend or is evil, that's probably not the case either. As others have mentioned, George doesn't want to get in the middle, but there is more than that.. George probably doesn't want to hurt his pal MITYH and probably hopes that MITYH lives without the knowledge or finds out on his own that his wife is a cheating whore. In college, we had a close group of 4-5 guys who lived in two adjoining apartments. While the specifics escape me, there came to be some evidence or knowledge that one of the guys, Mike, was being cheated on by his girlfriend. To make matters worse, the dude she was cheating on was one of Mike's other friends that wasn't part of our group. The rest of us all knew about it, but no one had the balls to break Mike's heart with the news and all hoped he would find out on his own. It wasn't until my then -girlfriend (now wife), who knew Mike longer than me and knew Mike's girlfriend, told Mike that he found out. I think we all regret not telling him, but I think if we were asked direct, point-blank questions, we would have told him. Does that make us all A-holes? Yes, but we thought we had Mike's feelings in mind at the time. I still regret not telling him, but he forgave us knowing that we weren't intentially trying to F him over, it was only poor judgement.So my point being A) MITYH, go after George and don't let up. He wants you to know but is both a chicken-s hit and I think doesn't want you to feel the pain he knows you likely will, let him know it won't effect the relationship between you and George and that you will hold him in high regard for being a true friend and B) After you find out more of the story, determine what it means to you, assuming your wife remembers, feels awful and will never tell you the truth. I would think some counciling would be in order if nothing else. You're marriage will be starting from scratch in many ways and if you don't rebuild properly, you risk a complete collapse or lifelong animosity if you stay together. Stay strong man, I honestly feel for you and know you're doing what you think is right, no matter how what the masses here think you should do. Once taken to completion, let it go. Best of luck.JFT

This is a heck of a post, man. I hope MITYH appreciates the time you took to write it.

This guy should post more. Pretty blown away with that one.

I dont know. In the first paragraph he says he avoids confrontations in all but the most serious circumstances. While I agree with this whole heartedly I believe MIYH has found himself in one of those most serious circumstances. I suppose that could be a subjective thing. I personally would put this at the top of my list of most serious circumstances.

I read that as a guy trying to shed some light on the situation by giving a psychological profile of himself, who he sees as similar to ManHat. Guys like this aren't prone to confrontation and while we all agree this is pretty serious, it's a lot lot harder for ManHat to go Rambo on a guy than it is for say, you or DJColts.

Because we all know how GM reacts when his wife is the issue GM:

 

[Kilgore Trout]

The main reason to talk to George is to make sure what he said that night was 100% true and not some sort of gag. You know, the sort of gag that the OP thought George was actually playing that night? Since then, George claims to remember nothing, which could indicate he's trying to stay out of it, or it could indicate that he made a joke when he returned from the bathroom that he doesn't remember making. Guy #3 claims George said more about what happened, but that isn't confirmed and as far as we know, guy #3 could be messing around with the OP since he doesn't know the seriousness of the situation. Going to guy #3 in a joking manner is a great way to get him to open up, but there's also a chance to get a load of BS instead of seriousness.As far as I can tell, the OP doesn't KNOW anything. He suspects something happened and suspects some of the details (George said your wife held Steve while he went to the bathroom), but he needs verification to confront Steve or to know how to handle things with his wife. Guy #3 saying George said X does not necessarily make it true.My advice still is to first talk to guy #3. Make sure he's being serious with what George said. George then needs to confirm that this is in fact what happened before you can know for sure. Because it's still possible that George could have been joking from the outset. Confronting Steve physically may satisfy some primitive urge, but it's going to make the OP look foolish if this turns out to be a bad joke that got out of hand.Information is king. There's no reason not to exhaust the sources of information that are out there before acting.For what it's worth, I think the likelihood of this starting as a gag is fairly low. But it's definitely high enough to pursue AND it may fill in some blanks as talking to guy #3 seems to have done.

 

[Chaka]

Rule #1: Never, ever, under ANY circumstances do you put your hands on another man's wife! Period!

Rule #2: If Rule #1 occurs (it has in this case) you DON'T call the individual in question, you find his ##### ### and handle to Man to mother ####### Man.

Rule #3: After Rule #2 has been accomplished find wife, put her ### on punishment. Then do what you have to do.

Rule #4: If you can't handle your liquor consumption then don't ####### drink.

Rule #5: Manup!

Rule #6: This is total Bull####, somebody's ### would have to pay.

You forgot to sign this post.

In that case why shouldn't MIYH have to pay for not tending his own garden? Hey, here is a thought: perhaps MIHY and WIFE are in a bitter and loveless marriage that only is together because of the kids? The point is that there is more to this story than we know, jumping to violent conclusions is lowest form of response and we have not arrived at that point yet.Steve screwed up big time, there is no doubt about that. MIYH's WIFE also screwed up big time and there is no doubt about that. Having a blackout is NOT an excuse!!!

But driving youself into an emotional frenzy and running around indiscriminately kicking people's ###es is how people who don't belong in jail end up there. And imposing some sort of neanderthal type punishment on your wife is equally stupid and will only serve to drive the final nail in the coffin of that marriage, if it hasn't happened already.

MIYH if the marriage is salvageable, and that is what you want, then I strongly encourage you to focus your efforts upon that path and work with your wife to begin the healing. She is the one who betrayed you and she is the one you should be working with. If the marriage is over then I encourage you (equally as strong) to document every shred of evidence, consult a lawyer get affidavits from any possible witnesses, and focus on getting everything you want/need out of the divorce proceedings.

I grieve for your situation but don't make it worse by resorting to violence. If you want to hurt Steve, tell his wife that he cheated on her.

If you absolutely must resort to a physical confrontation with Steve then be sure to bring a couple rolls of quarters with you. I don't want you to get your ### kicked and the quarters will add a little something to your punches.

And then after you get your ### kicked, you can play hours of Galaga.

See? It's a no-lose proposition.

 

[TheAristocrat]

I am finally caught up and can contribute to this thread.

I would say that we should move Reggie Bush up a notch or two in all PPR leagues.

 

[Ranethe]

The main reason to talk to George is to make sure what he said that night was 100% true and not some sort of gag. You know, the sort of gag that the OP thought George was actually playing that night? Since then, George claims to remember nothing, which could indicate he's trying to stay out of it, or it could indicate that he made a joke when he returned from the bathroom that he doesn't remember making. Guy #3 claims George said more about what happened, but that isn't confirmed and as far as we know, guy #3 could be messing around with the OP since he doesn't know the seriousness of the situation. Going to guy #3 in a joking manner is a great way to get him to open up, but there's also a chance to get a load of BS instead of seriousness.As far as I can tell, the OP doesn't KNOW anything. He suspects something happened and suspects some of the details (George said your wife held Steve while he went to the bathroom), but he needs verification to confront Steve or to know how to handle things with his wife. Guy #3 saying George said X does not necessarily make it true.My advice still is to first talk to guy #3. Make sure he's being serious with what George said. George then needs to confirm that this is in fact what happened before you can know for sure. Because it's still possible that George could have been joking from the outset. Confronting Steve physically may satisfy some primitive urge, but it's going to make the OP look foolish if this turns out to be a bad joke that got out of hand.Information is king. There's no reason not to exhaust the sources of information that are out there before acting.For what it's worth, I think the likelihood of this starting as a gag is fairly low. But it's definitely high enough to pursue AND it may fill in some blanks as talking to guy #3 seems to have done.

Exactly. This is the most reasonable summary that's been offered yet.

 

[Irish]

I am finally caught up and can contribute to this thread.I would say that we should move Reggie Bush up a notch or two in all PPR leagues.

Michael Turner still is the better value.

 

[crnerblitz]

Tuxedo for wedding. $600

New shoes. $200

Gas for 120 mile round trip. $20.00

Announcing to everyone at wedding that your leaving your faithless wife and Steve can take her home now because your taking the kids to your house. PRICELESS!

 

[glock]

...somebody's gotta be ####faced and blacking out at this wedding. My money's on the coat room this time, not the bathroom.



This thread would literally EXPLODE. Not to mention my head.

 

[redman]

sleep with Steve's wife at the wedding daughter ...report back...that is all

Fixed. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

 

[RustyFA]

I'm not a frequent poster, but have been around since the cheatsheets.net days as a long-time lurker. I've sympathized with MITYH since page 2 when I got on this train, and have felt pretty bad for the guy while he was getting beat up for not "Mannning Up". I didn't understand why I felt like this since I too agreed that he should have done more, but I stepped back I found out why. MITYH and I are cut from the same cloth, so much so that it could have been me writing the original post. I have many similarities and traits; I live and work in southcentral WI, am probably around the same age, have similar group of friends, and am also far from an Alpha Male since I am passive (or alternately passive-aggressive), avoid confrontation in all but the most serious circumstances, am a "nice guy", and want to trust and believe in people despite evidence showing otherwise. I've been stepped on a few times and can physically defend myself if need be, but have never been in, nor hope to be in, a physical "fight" per se. I can see his rationalization for his actions throughout the process, since I too would likely rationalize and procede in much the same way. I have to say it's an inherent personality trait and it is what it is, it is neither good or bad, right or wrong. He or I will never be the loud, brash and overly confident Alpha Male that many are suggesting he become overnight. His wife chose to be with him knowing full well this is who he is, for better or worse and whether she "settled" or not is irrelevant.I find it hard to believe based on the tale woven that something didn't happen in the bathroom, and find it harder to believe that she doesn't remember. 'Deny to the bitter end' is what I've read over and over from those involved with infedelity, a convenient out is what it is. Hell, if I was in her shoes, I'd do the same thing if I didn't want a divorce and really just made a stupid mistake. Even if the right thing to do is to admit her guilt, spill the beans and beg forgiveness, I doubt she ever will. As others have mentioned, to find out exactly what happened, George needs to be interrigated and not let up until you get the answers you're looking for. ..And those who think George isn't a good friend or is evil, that's probably not the case either. As others have mentioned, George doesn't want to get in the middle, but there is more than that.. George probably doesn't want to hurt his pal MITYH and probably hopes that MITYH lives without the knowledge or finds out on his own that his wife is a cheating whore. In college, we had a close group of 4-5 guys who lived in two adjoining apartments. While the specifics escape me, there came to be some evidence or knowledge that one of the guys, Mike, was being cheated on by his girlfriend. To make matters worse, the dude she was cheating on was one of Mike's other friends that wasn't part of our group. The rest of us all knew about it, but no one had the balls to break Mike's heart with the news and all hoped he would find out on his own. It wasn't until my then -girlfriend (now wife), who knew Mike longer than me and knew Mike's girlfriend, told Mike that he found out. I think we all regret not telling him, but I think if we were asked direct, point-blank questions, we would have told him. Does that make us all A-holes? Yes, but we thought we had Mike's feelings in mind at the time. I still regret not telling him, but he forgave us knowing that we weren't intentially trying to F him over, it was only poor judgement.So my point being A) MITYH, go after George and don't let up. He wants you to know but is both a chicken-s hit and I think doesn't want you to feel the pain he knows you likely will, let him know it won't effect the relationship between you and George and that you will hold him in high regard for being a true friend and B) After you find out more of the story, determine what it means to you, assuming your wife remembers, feels awful and will never tell you the truth. I would think some counciling would be in order if nothing else. You're marriage will be starting from scratch in many ways and if you don't rebuild properly, you risk a complete collapse or lifelong animosity if you stay together. Stay strong man, I honestly feel for you and know you're doing what you think is right, no matter how what the masses here think you should do. Once taken to completion, let it go. Best of luck.JFT

This is a heck of a post, man. I hope MITYH appreciates the time you took to write it.

This guy should post more. Pretty blown away with that one.

very nice posting

Great advice.

 

[Capella]

Can anybody give a simple, concise update, or point me to a recent one?

so anyways..

arggh....dude and wife and friends get plastered while camping, some people go to the camp outhouse and dudes wife goes with, ends up alone with player Steve, who is also married. Apparently Curious George gets to see the goods of Steves wife and Steve gets his pole handled by the dudes wife, at the very least. Steve and dudes wife gone for additional 15-30 minutes, all the while dude ignores warnings from friend Curious George to "go check on your wife". Next day dude grows a conscious and starts to wonder. Finds out gory details about his wife stroking Steves unit. Confronts wife, she says she blacked out. Still hasn't talked to Steve and believes his wife. Many people in this thread think wife is lying cheating whore. They are all supposed to reconvene at a wedding today, and dude will probably post Sunday night, meanwhile this is the largest circle jerk in the history of the world.

 

[flapgreen]

If this stuff is true, I have to give up for MITYH. I would've already went postal on somebody.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

no question. go have a drink (and maybe a beating) with steve

 

[redman]

no question. go have a drink (and maybe a beating) with steve

You know, sometimes guys just turn up dead with their junk stuffed in their mouth. Accidents happen.

 

[east2west]

MITYH seams like a smart enough guy, and I certainly feel for him, however if he is a passive person there are other ways to exact revenge without physical confrontation.

2 he should tell his wife he's going to take her to a hypnotist to extract the story from her extremely lucky and precisely timed black out. (joke)

 

[flapgreen]

Poll is flaVVed. No divorce wife option.

 

[RageRhino]

greatest in FBG history?

 

[jpwest]

Another scenario to consider while we await the wedding report. Those of you demanding an immediate divorce and/or spousal abuse, see if this changes anything for you. Everybody else, imagine how you might have responded had this been the original post.

Friendly camping trip too friendly?

I'll keep this short and sweet. My wife and I went camping with some old college friends this weekend, and I'm worried I may have made a serious mistake. To keep everybody anonymous, I'll call the guys involved "George," "Orson" (he's a huge fan of "The Third Man") and "MitYH."

A little background - this is a pretty wild group when alcohol is present and the kids are not. My wife and I are teachers, and we do like to let loose after 9 months of playing the disciplinarian to a bunch of rowdy kids. So things have a tendency to get a little out of hand when we get with this group in particular. My wife also loves to be the wild one - she's been known to flash her chest or get a little too affectionate with me in front of everyone.

So anyway, we're out camping and a few of us - me, my wife, George, MitYH's wife and Orson - head up to the latrine to return some of the beer we rented. When we get there, my wife and MitYH's wife start talking about how they should come into the men's room with us. It turns into a dare, and next thing I know they're both in the can.

So I said, "George is pretty wasted - one of you better help him aim." Everybody laughed, and my wife and MitYH's wife started giggling and daring each other. Now remember, we were all pretty messed up. And like I said, when my wife drinks, she'll do just about anything to shock people. So she says, "I'll help you, George," goes up to George at the urinal, and holds his ____ while he goes.

Now MitYH's wife is not as uninhibited as mine, but she takes this as a challenge and says "Well, then I better help Steve, too." She follows me into the stall. George and Orson are just about falling down laughing.

MitYH's wife and I have never fooled around in the years we've known each other, but there has been some flirting from time to time. So she's holding my ____ while I go, and just for the hell of it I give her a feel. Again, I was drunk as hell, she's pretty hot, and at the time it seemed justified - after all, my wife is in the same bathroom holding George's ____ at the time.

George, Orson and my wife head back to the campfire, still laughing their butts off. MitYH's wife and I make out a little, too. After a little while I say "We should get back," and she agrees. We go back to camp and the rest of the night goes pretty normally.

I get the feeling, though, that George and/or Orson went running back to MitYH and told him about us being in the stall together, because he gives me some weird looks as we're packing up to leave. I haven't talked to him since the trip, but we're all supposed to go to a wedding together this weekend.

We've done some crazy stuff together over the years, but I'm worried that I crossed some sort of line this time. Like I said, it seemed justified at the time, but I was a little too wasted to take MitYH into account - it was his wife, not George's, so it wasn't exactly fair to him.

I probably should have created this topic as a poll of some kind - what do you FBGs think my next move should be?

1) Move out of town.

2) Keep away from MitYH - I may have ended his marriage and he'll probably want revenge.

3) Forget it - stuff happens when you drink.

4) Talk to MitYH and apologize.

What say you?

 

[flapgreen]

 

[Daywalker]

I haven't read the past 10-15 pages. So if this scenario is already been put forth, sorry. But the wedding is a perfect opportunity for you.

After the bride and groom leave you should deck Steve. I wouldn't drink during the wedding and Steve will probably be pretty plastered. I'd probably try to avoid him most of the night until you are ready to nail him. With all the people around and the setting any scuffle will be over in a few seconds. 15 seconds max?

When everyone is like WTF? Just say Steve knows why and leave. In the proceeding days and weeks after if Steve does not try to reach out to you then you know a lot more then your wife helping him pee happened. If Steve does reach out then the bathroom incident was probably just a joke that went to far. Steve's response or lack thereof will tell you everything you need to know.

If your wife really does not remember the bathroom incident she might even get hot off of this. If she does remember this will be the warning sign to her and everyone else that you are not to be f'ed with.

 

[Chaka]

Are you guys playing cards?

[/Flounder]

 

[TxBuckeye]

greatest in FBG history?

A few of us believe so. But the Young and the Restless crowd don't want to hear it.

 

[SuperJohn96]

greatest in FBG history?

A few of us believe so. But the Young and the Restless crowd don't want to hear it.

I bet you drafted Kurt Warner when Trent Green went down too...

 

[broncofan13000]

Another scenario to consider while we await the wedding report. Those of you demanding an immediate divorce and/or spousal abuse, see if this changes anything for you. Everybody else, imagine how you might have responded had this been the original post.

Friendly camping trip too friendly?

I'll keep this short and sweet. My wife and I went camping with some old college friends this weekend, and I'm worried I may have made a serious mistake. To keep everybody anonymous, I'll call the guys involved "George," "Orson" (he's a huge fan of "The Third Man") and "MitYH."

A little background - this is a pretty wild group when alcohol is present and the kids are not. My wife and I are teachers, and we do like to let loose after 9 months of playing the disciplinarian to a bunch of rowdy kids. So things have a tendency to get a little out of hand when we get with this group in particular. My wife also loves to be the wild one - she's been known to flash her chest or get a little too affectionate with me in front of everyone.

So anyway, we're out camping and a few of us - me, my wife, George, MitYH's wife and Orson - head up to the latrine to return some of the beer we rented. When we get there, my wife and MitYH's wife start talking about how they should come into the men's room with us. It turns into a dare, and next thing I know they're both in the can.

So I said, "George is pretty wasted - one of you better help him aim." Everybody laughed, and my wife and MitYH's wife started giggling and daring each other. Now remember, we were all pretty messed up. And like I said, when my wife drinks, she'll do just about anything to shock people. So she says, "I'll help you, George," goes up to George at the urinal, and holds his ____ while he goes.

Now MitYH's wife is not as uninhibited as mine, but she takes this as a challenge and says "Well, then I better help Steve, too." She follows me into the stall. George and Orson are just about falling down laughing.

MitYH's wife and I have never fooled around in the years we've known each other, but there has been some flirting from time to time. So she's holding my ____ while I go, and just for the hell of it I give her a feel. Again, I was drunk as hell, she's pretty hot, and at the time it seemed justified - after all, my wife is in the same bathroom holding George's ____ at the time.

George, Orson and my wife head back to the campfire, still laughing their butts off. MitYH's wife and I make out a little, too. After a little while I say "We should get back," and she agrees. We go back to camp and the rest of the night goes pretty normally.

I get the feeling, though, that George and/or Orson went running back to MitYH and told him about us being in the stall together, because he gives me some weird looks as we're packing up to leave. I haven't talked to him since the trip, but we're all supposed to go to a wedding together this weekend.

We've done some crazy stuff together over the years, but I'm worried that I crossed some sort of line this time. Like I said, it seemed justified at the time, but I was a little too wasted to take MitYH into account - it was his wife, not George's, so it wasn't exactly fair to him.

I probably should have created this topic as a poll of some kind - what do you FBGs think my next move should be?

1) Move out of town.

2) Keep away from MitYH - I may have ended his marriage and he'll probably want revenge.

3) Forget it - stuff happens when you drink.

4) Talk to MitYH and apologize.

What say you?

4) Talk to MitYH and apologize

 

[Shrek]

:waitingforMonday:

 

[code]

 

[Twilight]

Wow. How did this get this big and not get ? There is no way to catch up, so I'll base it on the first page, update page, and this page.

As for the scenario, If you get pass-out drunk, crap happens. Deal and move on, It's definitely not divorce level unless she went back for seconds the next morning.

As for this wedding(?), Daywalker made the perfect post on how to handle it.

 

[jafo]

Your so called friends suck, Good luck.

 

[Curado Kev]

One way to catch up...Click on the original posters name and read his posts....He has 20-30 replies which will bring you up to speed...

Tonight or tommorrow should be interesting...

Unless this whole thing is HOWEVER it seems legit.

So until then

Ckev

 

[TheAristocrat]

Wow. How did this get this big and not get ? There is no way to catch up, so I'll base it on the first page, update page, and this page.

As for the scenario, If you get pass-out drunk, crap happens. Deal and move on, It's definitely not divorce level unless she went back for seconds the next morning.

As for this wedding(?), Daywalker made the perfect post on how to handle it.

Oh yes there is. You do what 250+ others before you have done and read every flippin' page of this thing.I'm not very proud of it, but I have accomplished the feat. And to be honest, there is some high comedy in this thing.

 

[joffer]

if there's ever an example of why not to get advice on a message board, this is it.

chalk it up to really stupid things that happen when people get too drunk.

forgive, forget, move on.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Ranking the aliai names, from best to worst (I'd make this a poll but I don't wanna get TO'd)

1) Campground Bathroom Attendant

2) Campsite Bathroom Stall

3) Steve's Penis

4) MITYH's Cheating Wife

5) Homewrecker Steve-O

6) Steve the Camper

7) Stevie

Apologies to any I missed.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Update the thread please. What happened at the wedding and after.

Gone for 30 hours so need an update.

 

[Sweet J]

Update the thread please. What happened at the wedding and after.

He hasn't provided an update yet re: the wedding. That will probably have to wait until tonight or Monday morning.

 

[Angry Beavers]

Challenge Everything:

NO post wedding update........... YET

AB

 

[Shrek]

Ranking the aliai names, from best to worst (I'd make this a poll but I don't wanna get TO'd)1) Campground Bathroom Attendant2) Campsite Bathroom Stall3) Steve's Penis4) MITYH's Cheating Wife5) Homewrecker Steve-O6) Steve the Camper7) StevieApologies to any I missed.

If you have time to do this, you have time to do what's really important, and that is to go back and find how many different terms were used for male and female genitalia in this thread. TYIA

 

[glumpy]

Another scenario to consider while we await the wedding report. Those of you demanding an immediate divorce and/or spousal abuse, see if this changes anything for you. Everybody else, imagine how you might have responded had this been the original post.

Friendly camping trip too friendly?

I'll keep this short and sweet. My wife and I went camping with some old college friends this weekend, and I'm worried I may have made a serious mistake. To keep everybody anonymous, I'll call the guys involved "George," "Orson" (he's a huge fan of "The Third Man") and "MitYH."

A little background - this is a pretty wild group when alcohol is present and the kids are not. My wife and I are teachers, and we do like to let loose after 9 months of playing the disciplinarian to a bunch of rowdy kids. So things have a tendency to get a little out of hand when we get with this group in particular. My wife also loves to be the wild one - she's been known to flash her chest or get a little too affectionate with me in front of everyone.

So anyway, we're out camping and a few of us - me, my wife, George, MitYH's wife and Orson - head up to the latrine to return some of the beer we rented. When we get there, my wife and MitYH's wife start talking about how they should come into the men's room with us. It turns into a dare, and next thing I know they're both in the can.

So I said, "George is pretty wasted - one of you better help him aim." Everybody laughed, and my wife and MitYH's wife started giggling and daring each other. Now remember, we were all pretty messed up. And like I said, when my wife drinks, she'll do just about anything to shock people. So she says, "I'll help you, George," goes up to George at the urinal, and holds his ____ while he goes.

Now MitYH's wife is not as uninhibited as mine, but she takes this as a challenge and says "Well, then I better help Steve, too." She follows me into the stall. George and Orson are just about falling down laughing.

MitYH's wife and I have never fooled around in the years we've known each other, but there has been some flirting from time to time. So she's holding my ____ while I go, and just for the hell of it I give her a feel. Again, I was drunk as hell, she's pretty hot, and at the time it seemed justified - after all, my wife is in the same bathroom holding George's ____ at the time.

George, Orson and my wife head back to the campfire, still laughing their butts off. MitYH's wife and I make out a little, too. After a little while I say "We should get back," and she agrees. We go back to camp and the rest of the night goes pretty normally.

I get the feeling, though, that George and/or Orson went running back to MitYH and told him about us being in the stall together, because he gives me some weird looks as we're packing up to leave. I haven't talked to him since the trip, but we're all supposed to go to a wedding together this weekend.

We've done some crazy stuff together over the years, but I'm worried that I crossed some sort of line this time. Like I said, it seemed justified at the time, but I was a little too wasted to take MitYH into account - it was his wife, not George's, so it wasn't exactly fair to him.

I probably should have created this topic as a poll of some kind - what do you FBGs think my next move should be?

1) Move out of town.

2) Keep away from MitYH - I may have ended his marriage and he'll probably want revenge.

3) Forget it - stuff happens when you drink.

4) Talk to MitYH and apologize.

What say you?

Kudos on a real creative take on this... it's always good to have both sides of a story and while we have no clue--this just might be as close to the mark as any. #4 is the answer here, of course! Could be an interesting update tonight/tomorrow.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

greatest in FBG history?

A few of us believe so. But the Young and the Restless crowd don't want to hear it.

How can it qualify as a "great" fishing trip when he continues to deny that it is one? That fact alone disqualifies it from being a great fishing trip.

 

[Otis]

bump for the New York Times people

Times>het

 

[Otis]

Wow. How did this get this big and not get ? There is no way to catch up, so I'll base it on the first page, update page, and this page.

As for the scenario, If you get pass-out drunk, crap happens. Deal and move on, It's definitely not divorce level unless she went back for seconds the next morning.

As for this wedding(?), Daywalker made the perfect post on how to handle it.

Oh yes there is. You do what 250+ others before you have done and read every flippin' page of this thing.I'm not very proud of it, but I have accomplished the feat. And to be honest, there is some high comedy in this thing.

A CTRL-F for his member number is the only way to go here.

 

[TheAristocrat]

A CTRL-F for his member number is the only way to go here.

And miss gems like this?

Can you honestly think of a more effective way of kicking off the conversation? You let him know right away you know (at least some of) what happened without revealing you don't know more than that, you do it in a somewhat secluded place so as not to disrupt the wedding reception itself (Although if it were crowded in there, I wouldn't let that stop me), you're going to catch him completely off guard, and watching him stammer, stutter, and try his best to gain composure while you're completely silent after asking the question would have to bring some element of enjoyment to an otherwise unenjoyable conversation.

As an added benefit, there's the distinct possibility he pees on both himself and his suit. And if he follows up with a smug answer like, "I double-DD do," you just punch him in the neck while he's peeing. It's seriously a no-lose proposition.

Of course, there's a chance Steve turns around having no idea about any of this and punches Manhat in the nose before things play out like describe.Other than that, it's pretty freaking brilliant.

If Manhat can't get the drop on a guy peeing - and probably a drunk guy peeing since it is a wedding reception - there's nothing anyone can post here to help him and we might as well close this bad boy down.

If somebody snuck up behind you at the urinal and asked if they could hold your penis for you in a masculine voice, what would you do?Me? I'd 180, piss all over him AND start wailing wild arms while yelling "RAPE" as loud as possible.

 

[glumpy]

Another scenario to consider while we await the wedding report. Those of you demanding an immediate divorce and/or spousal abuse, see if this changes anything for you. Everybody else, imagine how you might have responded had this been the original post.

Friendly camping trip too friendly?

I'll keep this short and sweet. My wife and I went camping with some old college friends this weekend, and I'm worried I may have made a serious mistake. To keep everybody anonymous, I'll call the guys involved "George," "Orson" (he's a huge fan of "The Third Man") and "MitYH."

A little background - this is a pretty wild group when alcohol is present and the kids are not. My wife and I are teachers, and we do like to let loose after 9 months of playing the disciplinarian to a bunch of rowdy kids. So things have a tendency to get a little out of hand when we get with this group in particular. My wife also loves to be the wild one - she's been known to flash her chest or get a little too affectionate with me in front of everyone.

So anyway, we're out camping and a few of us - me, my wife, George, MitYH's wife and Orson - head up to the latrine to return some of the beer we rented. When we get there, my wife and MitYH's wife start talking about how they should come into the men's room with us. It turns into a dare, and next thing I know they're both in the can.

So I said, "George is pretty wasted - one of you better help him aim." Everybody laughed, and my wife and MitYH's wife started giggling and daring each other. Now remember, we were all pretty messed up. And like I said, when my wife drinks, she'll do just about anything to shock people. So she says, "I'll help you, George," goes up to George at the urinal, and holds his ____ while he goes.

Now MitYH's wife is not as uninhibited as mine, but she takes this as a challenge and says "Well, then I better help Steve, too." She follows me into the stall. George and Orson are just about falling down laughing.

MitYH's wife and I have never fooled around in the years we've known each other, but there has been some flirting from time to time. So she's holding my ____ while I go, and just for the hell of it I give her a feel. Again, I was drunk as hell, she's pretty hot, and at the time it seemed justified - after all, my wife is in the same bathroom holding George's ____ at the time.

George, Orson and my wife head back to the campfire, still laughing their butts off. MitYH's wife and I make out a little, too. After a little while I say "We should get back," and she agrees. We go back to camp and the rest of the night goes pretty normally.

I get the feeling, though, that George and/or Orson went running back to MitYH and told him about us being in the stall together, because he gives me some weird looks as we're packing up to leave. I haven't talked to him since the trip, but we're all supposed to go to a wedding together this weekend.

We've done some crazy stuff together over the years, but I'm worried that I crossed some sort of line this time. Like I said, it seemed justified at the time, but I was a little too wasted to take MitYH into account - it was his wife, not George's, so it wasn't exactly fair to him.

I probably should have created this topic as a poll of some kind - what do you FBGs think my next move should be?

1) Move out of town.

2) Keep away from MitYH - I may have ended his marriage and he'll probably want revenge.

3) Forget it - stuff happens when you drink.

4) Talk to MitYH and apologize.

What say you?

Kudos on a real creative take on this... it's always good to have both sides of a story and while we have no clue--this just might be as close to the mark as any. #4 is the answer here, of course! Could be an interesting update tonight/tomorrow.

Sorry, but ridiculous. Might be interesting as a counterbalance with the exception that YOU JUST CAN'T BREEZE PAST HIS #### IN HER HAND!!!!!!!! HELLO!!!!!????? HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!???? HIS ####!!!! HER HAND!!!! Maybe you can that off in Cazyville, but don't sell it like it could be even moderately innocent elsewhere.I'm pretty damn liberal, but not when it comes to my wife's hands touching another man's ####, that's cheating. Game over.

Ummmm--don't misconstrue my sentiments here. I pretty well described my reaction on page 24:

I'd be really rocking Steve's boat. Wouldn't make much of a difference if I got an admission from him or not--the fact is that everyone else involved has expressed concern--and suspicion to a degree--and he's got no business being with her in a compromising position like that. I like the 'hit first and ask questions later' option which so many here have suggested--if for no other reason than it makes her look bad.

Meanwhile what jpwest has done is a pretty good takeoff on WTF could have started something like this.

 

[mr. furley]

no question. go have a drink (and maybe a beating) with steve

You know, sometimes guys just turn up dead with their junk stuffed in their mouth. Accidents happen.

holy ####

 

[jpwest]

Meanwhile what jpwest has done is a pretty good takeoff on WTF could have started something like this.

This was precisely my intention. It answers some of the things that have remained unknown up to this point:1) WTF was Steve's wife doing while this was going on, considering she is not known as a quiet, shy type?2) Why is George suddenly so unwilling to discuss what happened?3) How does something like this get started in a public place among friends?Obviously, we don't know (and will never know) how far it actually went. This seemed like a plausible - or at least possible - explanation of how it all started.JPW

 

[gocolts]

After reading the man in the yellow hat's last few comments, he already KNOWS without any doubt whatsoever that steve indeed railed his wife and by railed I mean he gave it to her better that she ever had been "Got" before. It prolly has more to do with Steve being "New". Or maybe he packs more than most and that is what she liked it. The whole thing is sad.

 

[Otis]

After reading the man in the yellow hat's last few comments, he already KNOWS without any doubt whatsoever that steve indeed railed his wife and by railed I mean he gave it to her better that she ever had been "Got" before. It prolly has more to do with Steve being "New". Or maybe he packs more than most and that is what she liked it. The whole thing is sad.

Jesus.

 

[gocolts]

After reading the man in the yellow hat's last few comments, he already KNOWS without any doubt whatsoever that steve indeed railed his wife and by railed I mean he gave it to her better that she ever had been "Got" before. It prolly has more to do with Steve being "New". Or maybe he packs more than most and that is what she liked it. The whole thing is sad.

Jesus.

He did say she was a virgin when they got together. She was prolly really liking the idea of some "strange" in here.

 

[TxBuckeye]

greatest in FBG history?

A few of us believe so. But the Young and the Restless crowd don't want to hear it.

I bet you drafted Kurt Warner when Trent Green went down too...

Actually I drafted Trent Green the day BEFORE he went down and passed on Warner for Brian Griese. It didn't really work out for me. But thanks for asking.