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Mark Ingram (1 Viewer)

Ingram is going to be hindered from getting more opportunities as long as Sproles is beasting like he is. Mark has an advantage for the goal line and has value there. He is a rookie though and I believe he will grow into the starter we expected him to be eventually but this may not happen in time for many of your fantasy seasons.

 
I too agree Ingram isn't that talented. I don't think he's a "bum" though. I see a RB3 as his upside, he's a flex start on bad teams and bye week material.

By this time next season I see Richardson passing ingram in fantasy stats, in his first 5 games he will outproduce ingrams first 21 games. 22 pages on a flex/bye week filler is perplexing. Richardson is the real deal.
Richardson is definitely an elite talent and much better then Ingram in every facet of the game.It was funny this off season when there was an Ingram vs Richardson thread and some people actually picked Ingram as the better player. Shows that many are still very less evolved in this hobby then others.
No he isn't. Trent's vision is improving this season, but it still hasn't reached Ingram's level. And while Trent's balance is incredible...its not 'much better' than what Ingram showed.But keep talking your talk.

 
How boring life would be if all of the FBG projections played out exactly like the preseason rankings. We would all draft from the same lists, right down the line, and everyone would finish at .500 with the same number of points. No busts, no steals... yeah, that would be awesome. :thumbdown:
Um, actually the goal of every list is to predict that as accurately as possible. That's the point. Ideally, we are paying for better lists here than lists other people go to, which should give us an edge. Obviously perfection isn't possible, and if it was the people who could would be richer beyond their wildest dreams.
Yes, I get all that. My point is... it ain't gonna happen, it's all educated GUESS WORK with a fair amount of LUCK thrown in. If you think you're paying for some insider knowledge and closely-guarded secrets that you feel you should be able to hold people accountable for... well, let's just say life is full of "stuff" like that.Instead of whining like teenage girls, people that took it deep and got burned should suck it up and move on.
 
I too agree Ingram isn't that talented. I don't think he's a "bum" though. I see a RB3 as his upside, he's a flex start on bad teams and bye week material. By this time next season I see Richardson passing ingram in fantasy stats, in his first 5 games he will outproduce ingrams first 21 games. 22 pages on a flex/bye week filler is perplexing. Richardson is the real deal.
Richardson is a steroid risk. I guarantee you he is on performance enhancers. As a spronsored competitive body builder (well, fitness competitor but it's essentialy the same thing with different type of competition) I have very strong instincts for these things. There are tell tale signs that you can see in the structure of his body for a man under 20. I wouldn't put it past some gentic freak to be about to bench 425 at 6% body fat so I am not basing my thoughts on his seemingly impossible weight room results but you can't hide some things.
 
'Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
'Multiple Scores said:
I too agree Ingram isn't that talented. I don't think he's a "bum" though. I see a RB3 as his upside, he's a flex start on bad teams and bye week material. By this time next season I see Richardson passing ingram in fantasy stats, in his first 5 games he will outproduce ingrams first 21 games. 22 pages on a flex/bye week filler is perplexing. Richardson is the real deal.
Richardson is a steroid risk. I guarantee you he is on performance enhancers. As a spronsored competitive body builder (well, fitness competitor but it's essentialy the same thing with different type of competition) I have very strong instincts for these things. There are tell tale signs that you can see in the structure of his body for a man under 20. I wouldn't put it past some gentic freak to be about to bench 425 at 6% body fat so I am not basing my thoughts on his seemingly impossible weight room results but you can't hide some things.
So you've done cycles yourself? I don't doubt he may have dabbled in the roids.. but lets be honest, most of these athletes have
 
Good grief... Ingram's numbers aren't great because the Saints haven't needed them to be great. He's not being used enough to get the high end numbers that some expected. Like it's been said, he does appear to be on pace to hit what most predicted his floor to be. He still has plenty of time to have some big games and get further above said floor. Is he Adrian Peterson? Absolutely not. Is he a bum? That's flat out asinine.

 
'gump said:
'moderated said:
'Multiple Scores said:
I too agree Ingram isn't that talented. I don't think he's a "bum" though. I see a RB3 as his upside, he's a flex start on bad teams and bye week material.

By this time next season I see Richardson passing ingram in fantasy stats, in his first 5 games he will outproduce ingrams first 21 games. 22 pages on a flex/bye week filler is perplexing. Richardson is the real deal.
Richardson is definitely an elite talent and much better then Ingram in every facet of the game.It was funny this off season when there was an Ingram vs Richardson thread and some people actually picked Ingram as the better player. Shows that many are still very less evolved in this hobby then others.
No he isn't. Trent's vision is improving this season, but it still hasn't reached Ingram's level. And while Trent's balance is incredible...its not 'much better' than what Ingram showed.But keep talking your talk.
Richardson and Ingram are different runners all together. Both have potential to be monsters. I don't understand the mentality that for Richardson to be great that Ingram must suck. I think both are going to be in the league for a long, long time.
 
I don't think ingram sucks. I see ingram as a RB3/flex type and Richardson as an elite RB1 type. If ingram can get some breaks he can be a Shonna Greene type.

'gump said:
'moderated said:
'Multiple Scores said:
I too agree Ingram isn't that talented. I don't think he's a "bum" though. I see a RB3 as his upside, he's a flex start on bad teams and bye week material.

By this time next season I see Richardson passing ingram in fantasy stats, in his first 5 games he will outproduce ingrams first 21 games. 22 pages on a flex/bye week filler is perplexing. Richardson is the real deal.
Richardson is definitely an elite talent and much better then Ingram in every facet of the game.It was funny this off season when there was an Ingram vs Richardson thread and some people actually picked Ingram as the better player. Shows that many are still very less evolved in this hobby then others.
No he isn't. Trent's vision is improving this season, but it still hasn't reached Ingram's level. And while Trent's balance is incredible...its not 'much better' than what Ingram showed.But keep talking your talk.
Richardson and Ingram are different runners all together. Both have potential to be monsters. I don't understand the mentality that for Richardson to be great that Ingram must suck. I think both are going to be in the league for a long, long time.
 
'Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
'Multiple Scores said:
I too agree Ingram isn't that talented. I don't think he's a "bum" though. I see a RB3 as his upside, he's a flex start on bad teams and bye week material. By this time next season I see Richardson passing ingram in fantasy stats, in his first 5 games he will outproduce ingrams first 21 games. 22 pages on a flex/bye week filler is perplexing. Richardson is the real deal.
Richardson is a steroid risk. I guarantee you he is on performance enhancers. As a spronsored competitive body builder (well, fitness competitor but it's essentialy the same thing with different type of competition) I have very strong instincts for these things. There are tell tale signs that you can see in the structure of his body for a man under 20. I wouldn't put it past some gentic freak to be about to bench 425 at 6% body fat so I am not basing my thoughts on his seemingly impossible weight room results but you can't hide some things.
So you've done cycles yourself? I don't doubt he may have dabbled in the roids.. but lets be honest, most of these athletes have
I'll just say that I am experienced in all forms of supplementation and leave it at that. ;) You can dabble, but in order to maintain results you need to have a maintenence regimine plus "off treatment" which will trigger tests if you get sloppy.
 
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Sorry to revive the Ingram thread but I wanted to get opinions on Ingram's dynasty/keeper value in light of his current role in the NO offense. I think its safe to say he isn't much more than an RB3 this year unless Sproles or Thomas get injured. Any thoughts on next year and into the future? Sproles looks like a great fit so I think we can expect him to be a fixture for a while. Thomas maybe not as much, esp with his possible injury proneness. What do you think?

 
:football:

Saints | Coach wants to get Mark Ingram more involved

Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:31:12 -0700

New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton said RB Mark Ingram has done well so far this season but he wants to get Ingram more touches. Payton believes Ingram does not get enough touches at times because the team uses different offensive packages during games.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1arv55Nn4

 
Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
 
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Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
Sorry, this is in dynasty. I don't have much opinion in redraft since it's inferior.
 
Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
Sorry, this is in dynasty. I don't have much opinion in redraft since it's inferior.
what do you think his dynasty value is?
 
Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
Sorry, this is in dynasty. I don't have much opinion in redraft since it's inferior.
what do you think his dynasty value is?
I think he's a top 15 RB.
 
I don't think ingram sucks. I see ingram as a RB3/flex type and Richardson as an elite RB1 type. If ingram can get some breaks he can be a Shonna Greene type.
Richardson >>>>>>>>>>>> Ingram

ingram sucks and FBG pumped this chump to unreal expectations.
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Oh, stop twisting his words around.
Not sure how I twisted anything, just quoted the posts as is. Either he sucks or he doesn't.
 
I don't think ingram sucks. I see ingram as a RB3/flex type and Richardson as an elite RB1 type. If ingram can get some breaks he can be a Shonna Greene type.
Richardson >>>>>>>>>>>> Ingram

ingram sucks and FBG pumped this chump to unreal expectations.
:confused:
Oh, stop twisting his words around.
Not sure how I twisted anything, just quoted the posts as is. Either he sucks or he doesn't.
I know. I was being a smart###.
 
I don't think ingram sucks. I see ingram as a RB3/flex type and Richardson as an elite RB1 type. If ingram can get some breaks he can be a Shonna Greene type.
Richardson >>>>>>>>>>>> Ingram

ingram sucks and FBG pumped this chump to unreal expectations.
:confused:
Oh, stop twisting his words around.
Not sure how I twisted anything, just quoted the posts as is. Either he sucks or he doesn't.
I know. I was being a smart###.
Ah, guess my sarcasm meter is off today :bag:
 
Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
Sorry, this is in dynasty. I don't have much opinion in redraft since it's inferior.
:thumbdown:
 
As is your context meter. I don't think ingram sucks for fantasy purposes as a rb3. I do think he sucks when compared to Richardson.

I don't think ingram sucks. I see ingram as a RB3/flex type and Richardson as an elite RB1 type. If ingram can get some breaks he can be a Shonna Greene type.
Richardson >>>>>>>>>>>> Ingram

ingram sucks and FBG pumped this chump to unreal expectations.
:confused:
Oh, stop twisting his words around.
Not sure how I twisted anything, just quoted the posts as is. Either he sucks or he doesn't.
I know. I was being a smart###.
Ah, guess my sarcasm meter is off today :bag:
 
Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
Sorry, this is in dynasty. I don't have much opinion in redraft since it's inferior.
:thumbdown:
:goodposting:
 
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Ingram is a BUY right now. Just got a deal done for not much. You should be able to get him, go get him.
Please clarify. Do you mean he is a BUY for redraft or for dynasty, or for both, and why? Just because Payton keeps saying he wants to get Ingram more touches doesn't mean a whole lot until we see it on the field, and we see Ingram doing something with the touches. Do you believe that Thomas is going to be relegated to the bench?
Sorry, this is in dynasty. I don't have much opinion in redraft since it's inferior.
:thumbdown:
TOUGH.
 
'hines said:
'Kenny Powers said:
Way to fumble the ball on the first drive to instill confidence in your coach Mark! Give em hell you stud RB!
that was Pierre Thomas
CBS gametracker had it as Ingram but looks like they changed it, nice. Hopefully that just makes it an Ingram and Sproles show instead of all 3
 
'hines said:
'Kenny Powers said:
Way to fumble the ball on the first drive to instill confidence in your coach Mark! Give em hell you stud RB!
that was Pierre Thomas
Please don't bother us with the facts. Some of us are just looking for any chance we can find to stab Ingram in the back. Clearly it's HIS or SOMEONE else's fault we drafted him. I'm pretty sure someone took over my keyboard in round 3.
 
'hines said:
'Kenny Powers said:
Way to fumble the ball on the first drive to instill confidence in your coach Mark! Give em hell you stud RB!
that was Pierre Thomas
CBS gametracker had it as Ingram but looks like they changed it, nice. Hopefully that just makes it an Ingram and Sproles show instead of all 3
LOL, don't pretend like you are not playing on yahoo. ;) I've got Ingram in a CBS, Yahoo and ESPn league and only yahoo listed it as his fumble.
 
In REDRAFT leagues, Ingram is droppable. Period. Time to let go of our preseason expectations.
Can't totally disagree, but one injury to either PT or Sproles and he blows up.Dynasty he is a long term diamond.
 
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Beautiful TD run.If you can't see it is as plain as day this kid a special player.....you have no clue.
Devil's advocate:That's one play -- show me more ... and sustain it.
Ingram be their feature back at some point. Certainly by next season. Until then, he'll be inconsistent simply because of the lack of touches.Eyeballs tell me this kid is going to be a stud, though. Lots of people are going to have to change their minds about Ingram. Not only is he a special talent, he's also in a good situation (again, when he becomes their feature back...& it's going to happen...Payton isn't dumb).
 

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