Mark Ingram (3 Viewers)

[Bojang0301]

I empathize with him. I would be extremely mad to have proven myself to the point where, at the very least, he gets those carries over Robinson in the 1st half. I hate to keep repeating myself but this guy is going to Marshawn Lynch the second half of his career and some Seattle clone will be very happy to have him.

 

[Milkman]

I'd sell him. You can't start him this year really unless Khiry gets hurt. He could be a nice RB next year for a team like Indy.

 

[Milkman]

Pierre Thomas was inches away from a TD. He's the RB to own in that backfield. He's going to catch 80-100 balls this year. They are not throwing to Ingram which i suspected would happen. I needed to see if they were going to throw to khiry. It doesn't look like it so all those receptions are Pierre Thomas's. Look out possible top 5 finish in PPR leagues for Thomas.

 

[justinl]

Pierre Thomas was inches away from a TD. He's the RB to own in that backfield. He's going to catch 80-100 balls this year. They are not throwing to Ingram which i suspected would happen. I needed to see if they were going to throw to khiry. It doesn't look like it so all those receptions are Pierre Thomas's. Look out possible top 5 finish in PPR leagues for Thomas.

Thomas was out carried by the other two, who look fantastic. Sure, Thomas will get passing down consideration, but he's not going to get the Darren Sproles treatment.

 

[shader]

At this point Ingram just wants a chance. He has to calm down, but he's obviously getting frustrated. He wants a chance to be the man on an offense and he hasn't received it in New Orleans. I'll be interested to see how this friction plays out over the next few days.

 

[Milkman]

Pierre Thomas was inches away from a TD. He's the RB to own in that backfield. He's going to catch 80-100 balls this year. They are not throwing to Ingram which i suspected would happen. I needed to see if they were going to throw to khiry. It doesn't look like it so all those receptions are Pierre Thomas's. Look out possible top 5 finish in PPR leagues for Thomas.

Thomas was out carried by the other two, who look fantastic. Sure, Thomas will get passing down consideration, but he's not going to get the Darren Sproles treatment.

Lol you do realize how much NO throws to their RB right? You also realize they basically only threw to Thomas right? You add it up and get back to me.

 

[Milkman]

Guys here is the big issue to take away from this game.

Today's game represented Ingram's ceiling and Pierre Thomas's floor.

Go get Thomas now.

 

[Milkman]

In Redraft PPR leagues i snap trade Ingram for Pierre Thomas right now.

 

[Apple Juice]

In Redraft PPR leagues i snap trade Ingram for Pierre Thomas right now.

So if you could have Ingram or Thomas, you're saying you'd choose Thomas over Ingram?

 

[Milkman]

In Redraft PPR leagues i snap trade Ingram for Pierre Thomas right now.

So if you could have Ingram or Thomas, you're saying you'd choose Thomas over Ingram?

in Redraft PPR leagues yes I would. In Dynasty leagues it's closer because of age and we don't know where Ingram will be next year.

 

[hines]

Pierre Thomas was inches away from a TD. He's the RB to own in that backfield. He's going to catch 80-100 balls this year. They are not throwing to Ingram which i suspected would happen. I needed to see if they were going to throw to khiry. It doesn't look like it so all those receptions are Pierre Thomas's. Look out possible top 5 finish in PPR leagues for Thomas.

lol please this is straight up trolling. guy just got 7 carries and now has a total of 30 carries in his last 6 games. top 5 give it a break, he might be a solid PPR Flex player all season but won't rank up TDs or yardage. 6 catches today was nice but I'd expect him to finish with 65-80 or so on the season

 

[The Claymaker]

I admit to being a very harsh critic towards Ingram and to be honest doubted that he was actually any good. But watching him at the end of last year and through week one, to be honest the Emmitt Smith comparisons are pretty accurate just based on running style. I'm not comparing the two in any other way, but Ingram looks strong and does have some quickness and I really like that he does run angry.

He does need to get his attitude in check though, I don't care who you are being disrespectful to your coach isn't going to earn you extra carries.

 

[Milkman]

Pierre Thomas was inches away from a TD. He's the RB to own in that backfield. He's going to catch 80-100 balls this year. They are not throwing to Ingram which i suspected would happen. I needed to see if they were going to throw to khiry. It doesn't look like it so all those receptions are Pierre Thomas's. Look out possible top 5 finish in PPR leagues for Thomas.

lol please this is straight up trolling. guy just got 7 carries and now has a total of 30 carries in his last 6 games. top 5 give it a break, he might be a solid PPR Flex player all season but won't rank up TDs or yardage. 6 catches today was nice but I'd expect him to finish with 65-80 or so on the season

lol how many yards does he need when he's catching 5-8 balls a game. I mean 60 yards receiving with 7 catches is 13 points. He's going to get that damn near every game. The 5-6 carries for 20-30 yards a game is just icing on the cake. Add in 5-6 TD'S on the season and you have a consistent 16 points a game.

Lol I'll take that as my RB2 all day. Hell that's borderline RB1 numbers.

 

[hines]

Pierre Thomas was inches away from a TD. He's the RB to own in that backfield. He's going to catch 80-100 balls this year. They are not throwing to Ingram which i suspected would happen. I needed to see if they were going to throw to khiry. It doesn't look like it so all those receptions are Pierre Thomas's. Look out possible top 5 finish in PPR leagues for Thomas.

lol please this is straight up trolling. guy just got 7 carries and now has a total of 30 carries in his last 6 games. top 5 give it a break, he might be a solid PPR Flex player all season but won't rank up TDs or yardage. 6 catches today was nice but I'd expect him to finish with 65-80 or so on the season

lol how many yards does he need when he's catching 5-8 balls a game. I mean 60 yards receiving with 7 catches is 13 points. He's going to get that damn near every game. The 5-6 carries for 20-30 yards a game is just icing on the cake. Add in 5-6 TD'S on the season and you have a consistent 16 points a game.

Lol I'll take that as my RB2 all day. Hell that's borderline RB1 numbers.

first off you said top 5 finish and now you are saying RB2, so no consistency there equals you are just posting for attention and not posting fully fleshed out thoughts.

you are basically putting him down for the best receiving season by any RB ever. you are saying he will catch anywhere from 80-128 passes this season, the higher end would be the 2nd most catches by any player ever. I don't that is a reasonable expectation at all. I think 5-6 TDs is his ceiling and he could easily finish with 2-3 also. but sure, if you think he might have the 2nd most receptions of all time, he might be a RB1. I don't think a guy who got the 4th most targets on his team yesterday and is averaging 5 carries a game recently is going to be a RB1

 

[Chaka]

I think PT will definitely approach 80 receptions and if everything breaks right he may even be able to hit 90. He is the only reliable receiving threat out of the backfield on the most prolific offense for receiving RBs in the NFL.

 

[Milkman]

Sweet don't get on the train then. P. Thomas is going to win a lot of people their leagues this year. Top 5 RB in PPR is def in play imo. Barring injury of course. I just don't see them throwing to their other RB that much.

16 points/gameX16 games= 256 points or RB7 last year.

Try and think how easy it is for Thomas to get to 16 points a game catching 6-7 balls.

 

[Chaka]

Sweet don't get on the train then. P. Thomas is going to win a lot of people their leagues this year. Top 5 RB in PPR is def in play imo. Barring injury of course. I just don't see them throwing to their other RB that much.

16 points/gameX16 games= 256 points or RB7 last year.

Try and think how easy it is for Thomas to get to 16 points a game catching 6-7 balls.

I have thought about it and it is the reason I think PPR leagues are kind of lame.

 

[Milkman]

Sweet don't get on the train then. P. Thomas is going to win a lot of people their leagues this year. Top 5 RB in PPR is def in play imo. Barring injury of course. I just don't see them throwing to their other RB that much.

16 points/gameX16 games= 256 points or RB7 last year.

Try and think how easy it is for Thomas to get to 16 points a game catching 6-7 balls.

I have thought about it and it is the reason I think PPR leagues are kind of lame.

hmmmm weird. You seem smart enough to exploit that instead of disliking it. Meh.

 

[Chaka]

Sweet don't get on the train then. P. Thomas is going to win a lot of people their leagues this year. Top 5 RB in PPR is def in play imo. Barring injury of course. I just don't see them throwing to their other RB that much.

16 points/gameX16 games= 256 points or RB7 last year.

Try and think how easy it is for Thomas to get to 16 points a game catching 6-7 balls.

I have thought about it and it is the reason I think PPR leagues are kind of lame.

hmmmm weird. You seem smart enough to exploit that instead of disliking it. Meh.

I am I just don't like leagues that overemphasize marginal players.I also only play in super-flex or mandatory two QB leagues because guys like PT shouldn't be drafted ahead of guys like Big Ben and Carson Palmer.

 

[Milkman]

Oh i see. Fair enough. I like playing in leagues where owners have a difficult time valuing players like P. Thomas.

 

[hines]

I think PT will definitely approach 80 receptions and if everything breaks right he may even be able to hit 90. He is the only reliable receiving threat out of the backfield on the most prolific offense for receiving RBs in the NFL.

Ingram has developed his catching ability and will grab some of those balls as well.

Sweet don't get on the train then. P. Thomas is going to win a lot of people their leagues this year. Top 5 RB in PPR is def in play imo. Barring injury of course. I just don't see them throwing to their other RB that much.

16 points/gameX16 games= 256 points or RB7 last year.

Try and think how easy it is for Thomas to get to 16 points a game catching 6-7 balls.

ok, again you are saying he will catch between 96-112 passes which I certainly don't think he will do. I don't think Pierre Thomas is set up for some sort of historic season catching passes and you apparently do, we disagree there. I can easily see him catching 70 passes and getting 80 carries on the season for something like 170 points in a PPR (if you get 1 point per 10 yards receiving, my league gets 1 per 20 which puts him right around 9-10 PPG

 

[Milkman]

I think PT will definitely approach 80 receptions and if everything breaks right he may even be able to hit 90. He is the only reliable receiving threat out of the backfield on the most prolific offense for receiving RBs in the NFL.

Ingram has developed his catching ability and will grab some of those balls as well.

Sweet don't get on the train then. P. Thomas is going to win a lot of people their leagues this year. Top 5 RB in PPR is def in play imo. Barring injury of course. I just don't see them throwing to their other RB that much.

16 points/gameX16 games= 256 points or RB7 last year.

Try and think how easy it is for Thomas to get to 16 points a game catching 6-7 balls.

ok, again you are saying he will catch between 96-112 passes which I certainly don't think he will do. I don't think Pierre Thomas is set up for some sort of historic season catching passes and you apparently do, we disagree there. I can easily see him catching 70 passes and getting 80 carries on the season for something like 170 points in a PPR (if you get 1 point per 10 yards receiving, my league gets 1 per 20 which puts him right around 9-10 PPG

lol he scored 211 points last year with Sproles there.

Again lol.

 

[RushHour]

Can you two take this outside? Or to the Pierre Thomas thread?

 

[hines]

me and Milkman disagree on Thomas, I'll leave it at that.

yesterday was a good but not great sign for Ingram IMO. Payton played his typical games in the first half when Ingram finished with 11 yards but he was dominant down the stretch. I don't think that means he takes over as a 16-18 carry back though and his usage in the passing game was disappointing. 19 points is great for a guy we all got for cheap and he certainly showed he deserves to be in my lineup again, but if someone comes knocking with a great offer I will listen

 

[RushHour]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

 

[hines]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

 

[rjv]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

Ingram owner and I agree here. I'm still holding my breath but it seems to me that Ingram is running really angry this season. Must want to prove he is a workhorse back for a new contract somewhere else.

 

[cstu]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

Ingram was benched after the 1st quarter and didn't come back in until 5 minutes left in the 3rd.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Gotta be happy if you drafted him as RB3/flex. As others have alluded, this is a 3 man rotation where you're going to have to depend on him scoring. Pierre's not going anywhere.

I'm not sure even if Pierre got hurt that his usage would change much. (Will have to re-watch, but I think Cadet actually saw the first RB snap)

 

[Adam Harstad]

In Redraft PPR leagues i snap trade Ingram for Pierre Thomas right now.

Pierre Thomas was drafted 5+ rounds before Ingram in redraft PPR leagues, and he scored 15 points in week one (compared to 19 for Ingram). You're welcome to TRY trading Ingram for Thomas. You're also welcome to try trading Knowshon Moreno for Jamaal Charles. I'm skeptical about how successful you'll be, but that doesn't mean you can't try.

 

[humpback]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

Ingram owner and I agree here. I'm still holding my breath but it seems to me that Ingram is running really angry this season. Must want to prove he is a workhorse back for a new contract somewhere else.

I noticed this towards the end of last season as well. He was acting really bizarre after almost every run. I like it, although he needs to chill out a bit- pissing off the coach usually doesn't get you more playing time.

 

[iamkoza]

Ingram is a Khiry Robinson Injury away from being a solid RB2.... as it is he remains a dicey flex play who you just are hoping for a TD on one of his 10-12 carries.

 

[Milkman]

In Redraft PPR leagues i snap trade Ingram for Pierre Thomas right now.

Pierre Thomas was drafted 5+ rounds before Ingram in redraft PPR leagues, and he scored 15 points in week one (compared to 19 for Ingram). You're welcome to TRY trading Ingram for Thomas. You're also welcome to try trading Knowshon Moreno for Jamaal Charles. I'm skeptical about how successful you'll be, but that doesn't mean you can't try.

Well throw that in my face.......

 

[Freelove]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

Ingram owner and I agree here. I'm still holding my breath but it seems to me that Ingram is running really angry this season. Must want to prove he is a workhorse back for a new contract somewhere else.

I noticed this towards the end of last season as well. He was acting really bizarre after almost every run. I like it, although he needs to chill out a bit- pissing off the coach usually doesn't get you more playing time.

Hypothesis: Had a practice or some in-game situation where he got in a fight, got all pissed off, and started toting the rock like The Hulk on a bad day. Coaches had a closed-doors meeting with him about "running angry," and, "doing what it takes to get in that headspace." Now, giving him a LOT of leeway in terms of getting himself worked up, and laughing at the fans and media as they try to figure out why the staff looks the other way while Ingram seems to disrespect everyone.

 

[rjv]

I just really like what I see because he hasn't had it before and if it works then give him the ball. There is a determination in his play style that he did not have the past few seasons.

 

[humpback]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

Ingram owner and I agree here. I'm still holding my breath but it seems to me that Ingram is running really angry this season. Must want to prove he is a workhorse back for a new contract somewhere else.

I noticed this towards the end of last season as well. He was acting really bizarre after almost every run. I like it, although he needs to chill out a bit- pissing off the coach usually doesn't get you more playing time.

Hypothesis: Had a practice or some in-game situation where he got in a fight, got all pissed off, and started toting the rock like The Hulk on a bad day. Coaches had a closed-doors meeting with him about "running angry," and, "doing what it takes to get in that headspace." Now, giving him a LOT of leeway in terms of getting himself worked up, and laughing at the fans and media as they try to figure out why the staff looks the other way while Ingram seems to disrespect everyone.

That, or he's ingesting things to make him act like The Hulk on a bad day!

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

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[Freelove]

I started Ingram and honestly feel like I got away with one. He was nowhere to be found for a large chunk of the middle of the game. The Saints RB usage was just as maddening (for fantasy owners) as it always is, only Ingram was able to really maximise his touches in the second half. Basically a lot of things have to fall his way on any given week to get him to a score where you're glad you rolled the dice and started him.

I think it's a little better outlook than this. this makes it sound similar to last season, but last season he scored 1 TD all season and had double-digit carries only twice. maybe his performance in the fourth quarter will lead to more rushes next week?

EDIT: he also had as many carries as other two backs combined, so it's not quite the 3-headed monster some are talking about

Ingram owner and I agree here. I'm still holding my breath but it seems to me that Ingram is running really angry this season. Must want to prove he is a workhorse back for a new contract somewhere else.

I noticed this towards the end of last season as well. He was acting really bizarre after almost every run. I like it, although he needs to chill out a bit- pissing off the coach usually doesn't get you more playing time.

Hypothesis: Had a practice or some in-game situation where he got in a fight, got all pissed off, and started toting the rock like The Hulk on a bad day. Coaches had a closed-doors meeting with him about "running angry," and, "doing what it takes to get in that headspace." Now, giving him a LOT of leeway in terms of getting himself worked up, and laughing at the fans and media as they try to figure out why the staff looks the other way while Ingram seems to disrespect everyone.

That, or he's ingesting things to make him act like The Hulk on a bad day!

Less fun, but probably more likely.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

Hopefully the Saints can use more of Ingram throughout the game and try to control the clock. It might have helped them beat Atlanta instead of throwing it all day like they usually do.

 

[humpback]

This is one of the rare situations where I wouldn't hold it against the player at all if they demanded a trade/release.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

Maybe Indy can trade a pick to NO for Ingram so they can call the power running game like they want.

 

[RBM]

Ya know what...I'll say it. Sean Payton is a friggin #######

 

[SameSongNDance]

Ingram looks seriously good out there.

 

[shadyridr]

He looks AWESOME

 

[Adam Harstad]

3 catches so far today. Currently NO's second-leading receiver, albeit with just 21 yards.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

imagine what he could do with 20 carries

 

[RBM]

In the end zone again. Guy is awesome.

 

[shadyridr]

Starting to move into rb2 territory

 

[oswizzle]

This guy is a top 5 RB

 

[Freelove]

NOW, you might be able to move Ingram for Pierre. If you still want to.