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No chance BB has already written him in as #1 and is letting the rest play to establish the order behind him?
In New England.
This is one of the more unexpected overreactions to a preseason game I've seen.
wasn't aware Bloom moved
Im just following the lead of the beat writers, all of them are saying this is not good. When we talked to Shalise Manza Young from the Boston Globe earlier this week and she specifically said that if Maroney doesnt get first team carries tonight, that is not good for his prospects this year.
just reporting everything I'm seeing on Twitter - all of the beat writers seemed pretty perplexed by the development.
oh.the "we've seen" line confused me.
sometimes, the obvious still needs to be spelled out for people...just like bloom's thread on lendale white earlier this year
If thats the case, then absolutely nobody covering the team even has an inkling that that was his plan. All of them seemed pretty surprised that he didn't play at all in the first quarter. I dont think theres any way to spin this as anything but bad for Maroney.
They're saying that he doesn't seem to be in the Pats plans?
"not a good sign""not great news"
That only happened because of Morris and Taylor injuries, they never intended for him to featured, in fact, Taylor had 45 carries to Maroney's 27 before he got hurt.kevinallen said:
Taylor missed 10 games. Morris missed a month. Both game back not 100%. Maroney got benched late in the season. He's not a featured back. When Taylor and Morris were in the lineup, Maroney had 10, 6, 4, 7, 5, 5, 0, and 1 carries. Still think he's a featured back?kevinallen said:
I do think it's understandable why some would wonder if Maroney's success during his featuredness by default would carry into this season. At any rate, Yudkin has a condescending attitude with his "i'm not really sure" replies.
Where did I say I am not really sure?
Excuse me, I mean't "I'm not sure" replies.
Again . . . what are you referring to?
If can't is a contraction for "can not", maybe mean't means he doesn't mean it?
Then we can agree to disagree on what a featured back is.kevinallen said:
I think Maroney could be a decent back, just not on the Patriots. Each year, people point ot he same think. He's the best back on the roster (and he is), he should be able to beat out older and inferior competition (and he should), and the Pats really didn't upgrade their RB corps so he should be the man (and he should).The names have changed, but the results really haven't. Dillon, Jordan, Faulk, Morris, Taylor have all been the guys he needed to beat out. But he didn't to the extent that they intentiaonally made Maroney their go to back. Not only that, the other guys have been more productive in their roles (higher ypcs, higher scoring rates, etc.).When the other guys have been healthy, Maroney doesn't catch passes, generally does not get carries at the goal line, and doesn't get a ton of carries. That's not the recipe for great fantasy numbers.When the other guys don't play, Maroney is a decent fantasy option. But NE has still yet to insert Maroney as "their guy" and made him their bell cow. Last year, he developed a fumbling issue and got benched. Again, not a good thing.I do agree with Matt that Maroney SHOULD be in line for better things and a bigger workload, but it's now been years and it hasn't happened. At this point, one has to wonder if it every will happen in NE for Maroney.
You are insufferable. I'm shocked the owners of this site let you represent them.
The Pats keep Maroney because he's cheap and his trade value is minimal. As you said, at this point the other guys are old and the other RB on the roster that is young is Ben Jarvis Green Ellis. Maroney's not terrible but he hasn't realized his full potential.
Every once in awhile I'll come across someone who really expects big things from Maroney this year, and I just scratch my head. Haven't we learned that the RB in New England is absolutely worthless?
Maroney was not worthless last year when he was starting. He was a quality RB2 when the other guys were out. The downside case is that he relies on the other guys being out. The upside case is that those other three guys are over 100 years old combined.
NE has kept 5 RBs the past three seasons, including the same 5 guys currently under consideration for the past two years. With Taylor/Morris/Faulk now well past 30, it makes even more sense for them to keep all of them rostered.As for Maroney, if he were able to crack 1,000 yards rushing this year in his 5th season, he would join the following as guys who did so in their 5th season or later with the same team:Tony Canadeo, GNB, 1949, 1052, Year 8Joe Perry, SFO, 1953, 1018, 6Floyd Little, DEN, 1971, 1133, 5Willie Ellison, RAM, 1000, 5John Riggins, NYJ, 1975, 1005, 5|Rocky Bleier, PIT, 1976, 1036, 7Sam Cunningham, NWE, 1977, 1015, 5Pete Johnson, CIN, 1981, 1077, 5Stump Mitchell, CRD, 1985, 1006, 5Lorenzo White, HOU, 1992, 1226, 5Robert Smith, MIN, 1997, 1266, 5Brian Westbrook, PHI, 2006, 1217, 5Ladell Betts, WAS, 2006, 1154, 5Justin Fargas, RAI, 2007, 1009, 5Derrick Ward, NYG, 2008, 1025, 5
I'm not DY's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination, but it is completely ridiculous that people still can't accept that the Pats are going with a RBBC. I understand his frustration.
You can start him for your team if you want. I'll pass. No one is winning any FF championships because of Maroney.
I am fairly certain that everyone who has looked at this team sees the pass rush as their #1 issue... so no, you're not the only one.Also, I don't think Belichick sees his RBBC as "a series of poor compromises." Taylor, Morris, and Faulk may be in their 30s, injury-prone, and not worth a whole lot in fantasy circles, but they've proven to be effective as a group. Unfortunately for fantasy owners, that's good enough for the Patriots (and given their track record over the past decade, I don't think anyone can really argue with that).I also realize that fantasy owners wish the Pats would just cut Maroney loose so he could get a shot elsewhere, where he may be a better fit... but why would the Patriots do this? Maroney, despite his frustrating struggles, possesses undeniable talent. He costs very little, and he's the only RB on the team (aside from the largely unproven and somewhat overhyped BJGE) who's not on the downside of his career. Why would the Pats ever put what's best for Maroney or what's best for fantasy football owners over what's best for the Patriots? Makes no sense.In regards to stockpiling the draft picks indefinitely, it simply hasn't happened that way. The Patriots have spent draft picks in recent years to acquire veterans like Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Derrick Burgess. The fact that they maintain a few extra draft picks gives them the flexibility to move up or down anywhere in the draft at any time, and it also gives them the trading chips they need when useful veteran players become available via trade. I'm not sure how you can criticize this approach.GordonGekko said:
He didn't say someone would win a championship because of Maroney. You said the RB in NE is absolutely worthless, and he said Maroney wasn't worthless when he was starting, and he is correct. Maroney had several games last year where he was a nice RB2. I can see why some people would wonder if maybe Maroney proved himself enough during the time he served as NE's primary back last year, to be given that role again this year. Everyone realizes he got that roll because other fellow RBs were injured, and NE over the last few years have used an assortment of RBs. They have also had an assortment of RB injuries over the last few years. I remember back in 2004 when Cory Dillon had over 300 carries and 12 TD's for NE. Things don't always stay the same, even under the same General.
