Marshawn Lynch (1 Viewer)

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

This is an off-shoot of the Peterson thread.

I like what I see from Lynch and think he could be a Curtis Martin type player with more speed.

I see him going to someone like GB or if houston trades down.

Discuss...Discuss

 

[Dope]

48 posts in the AD post and none in here....that right there should tell you a lot. Nobody really REALLY knows.

I have the 1.2 pick and it's looking like it'll be Marshawn for me. I'm fine with that....although to be honest, I'd be feeling better if I didn't draft JJ Arrington 2 years ago.

Anyway...I think more that Peterson, how Marshawn does, depends where he goes. I will be rooting pretty hard for him to go in the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st round.

 

[prymetyme25]

He looks good with everything he does. At 225 though runs alittle light. Plus in an interview on NFL Network he said he'd run a 4.3 at the combine, well if he runs a 4.3 then he has to be the slowest 4.3 i've seen as he seem to get caught from behind alot. Or it may be that he has short area speed but not distance speed. :dunno:

 

[CalBear]

I have the 1.2 pick and it's looking like it'll be Marshawn for me. I'm fine with that....although to be honest, I'd be feeling better if I didn't draft JJ Arrington 2 years ago.

Other than the helmet they wore in college, Lynch and Arrington have no similarity whatsoever.(And anyway, Arrington didn't get a fair shake in Arizona, considering how bad their OL was. Edge averaged 3.4 ypc and didn't get 100 yards until game 12, when they fed him 26 times; Arrington never got more than 18 carries and had a total of 113 for the year).I had reservations about Arrington as a pro; Lynch, I would be shocked if he's not successful. I'm a bit concerned about his ability to stay healthy, just because he keeps fighting when he's stood upright and being held by multiple people. But in terms of talent, he will succeed.

 

[Colin Dowling]

He reminds me of Deshawn Foster, honestly, when I watched him in college.

 

[LHUCKS]

He reminds me of Deshawn Foster, honestly, when I watched him in college.

Deshaun was sick in college when healthy so this is a good thing.Had it not been for a lame SUV scandal Deshaun would have won the Heisman trophy.

 

[Colin Dowling]

He reminds me of Deshawn Foster, honestly, when I watched him in college.

Deshaun was sick in college when healthy so this is a good thing.

Yes. I meant it as a compliment to his ability but also as a nod to the "he runs light for his size" comment.

 

[jurb26]

He looks good with everything he does. At 225 though runs alittle light. Plus in an interview on NFL Network he said he'd run a 4.3 at the combine, well if he runs a 4.3 then he has to be the slowest 4.3 i've seen as he seem to get caught from behind alot. Or it may be that he has short area speed but not distance speed. :dunno:

I disagree. At 225 lbs I'd say that Lynch runs very fluid for his size. He has better open field wiggle than Peterson IMO and seems to have loose hips. I don't see him running a 4.3 however.

 

[LHUCKS]

He looks good with everything he does. At 225 though runs alittle light. Plus in an interview on NFL Network he said he'd run a 4.3 at the combine, well if he runs a 4.3 then he has to be the slowest 4.3 i've seen as he seem to get caught from behind alot. Or it may be that he has short area speed but not distance speed. :dunno:

I disagree. At 225 lbs I'd say that Lynch runs very fluid for his size. He has better open field wiggle than Peterson IMO and seems to have loose hips. I don't see him running a 4.3 however.

Definitely more wiggle than Peterson.

 

[LHUCKS]

He reminds me of Deshawn Foster, honestly, when I watched him in college.

Deshaun was sick in college when healthy so this is a good thing.

Yes. I meant it as a compliment to his ability but also as a nod to the "he runs light for his size" comment.

gotcha

 

[switz]

He reminds me of Deshawn Foster, honestly, when I watched him in college.

Is that supposed to be bad? Foster has sick skills... he just hasn't been able to stay healthy...Edited to add: Carolina has to have the worst scouting department on RBs. Or the worst luck. Biakabatuka and Foster both looked to have all-world skills... and couldn't kick the injury habit enough to have real success.

 

[jurb26]

Edited to add: Carolina has to have the worst scouting department on RBs. Or the worst luck. Biakabatuka and Foster both looked to have all-world skills... and couldn't kick the injury habit enough to have real success.

Sometimes you just get unlucky.

 

[switz]

Edited to add: Carolina has to have the worst scouting department on RBs. Or the worst luck. Biakabatuka and Foster both looked to have all-world skills... and couldn't kick the injury habit enough to have real success.

Sometimes you just get unlucky.

Yeah, but then add in the rest of their RB grabs... outside of Davis as an FA, when have they had an RB that showed he could shoulder the load for a whole season. The answer: never.

 

[prymetyme25]

He looks good with everything he does. At 225 though runs alittle light. Plus in an interview on NFL Network he said he'd run a 4.3 at the combine, well if he runs a 4.3 then he has to be the slowest 4.3 i've seen as he seem to get caught from behind alot. Or it may be that he has short area speed but not distance speed. :dunno:

I disagree. At 225 lbs I'd say that Lynch runs very fluid for his size. He has better open field wiggle than Peterson IMO and seems to have loose hips. I don't see him running a 4.3 however.

No doubt he is very fluid for his size and he also has very good vision and cuts well. But he doesn't seem to pack as much pop. I've seen smaller back bring more than what i've seen of him so far. Thats what I mean by light.

 

[jurb26]

Edited to add: Carolina has to have the worst scouting department on RBs. Or the worst luck. Biakabatuka and Foster both looked to have all-world skills... and couldn't kick the injury habit enough to have real success.

Sometimes you just get unlucky.

Yeah, but then add in the rest of their RB grabs... outside of Davis as an FA, when have they had an RB that showed he could shoulder the load for a whole season. The answer: never.

I think Williams could change that if given a chance.

 

[jurb26]

He looks good with everything he does. At 225 though runs alittle light. Plus in an interview on NFL Network he said he'd run a 4.3 at the combine, well if he runs a 4.3 then he has to be the slowest 4.3 i've seen as he seem to get caught from behind alot. Or it may be that he has short area speed but not distance speed. :dunno:

I disagree. At 225 lbs I'd say that Lynch runs very fluid for his size. He has better open field wiggle than Peterson IMO and seems to have loose hips. I don't see him running a 4.3 however.

No doubt he is very fluid for his size and he also has very good vision and cuts well. But he doesn't seem to pack as much pop. I've seen smaller back brong more than what i've seen of him sow far. Thats what I mean by light.

Nevermind, I thought you said tight... not light.

 

[toxicbees]

Lynch is a lot better than Arrington, back when they played together Lynch would spell Arrington on a couple of plays and rip the defense for 40 yards. Which is why most Cal fans weren't very worried when JJ left.

Lynch is an all around back. He has no problem catching the ball, he rarely goes down after initial contact, and he has a nose for the end zone (almost makes it look too easy).

I believe him when he says he can run a 4.3. I think he will.

 

[Gandalf]

Lynch is a lot better than Arrington, back when they played together Lynch would spell Arrington on a couple of plays and rip the defense for 40 yards. Which is why most Cal fans weren't very worried when JJ left.Lynch is an all around back. He has no problem catching the ball, he rarely goes down after initial contact, and he has a nose for the end zone (almost makes it look too easy).I believe him when he says he can run a 4.3. I think he will.

I agree with everything you just said, except for the 40-time. Though I think Lynch will run at least a respectable 4.5. One more thing, Lynch is a great team leader. The comparison of Lynch to Arrington don't hold water to me. Just because a guy wears the same helmet or plays in the same system doesn't mean that they have similar talent. Arrington is smaller and more of a quick vs. fast back. Lynch on the other hand is well-built and runs angry. I've been watching him for a while because he's on my team's college roster. He's going to be a great pro.

 

[Dope]

Lynch is a lot better than Arrington, back when they played together Lynch would spell Arrington on a couple of plays and rip the defense for 40 yards. Which is why most Cal fans weren't very worried when JJ left.Lynch is an all around back. He has no problem catching the ball, he rarely goes down after initial contact, and he has a nose for the end zone (almost makes it look too easy).I believe him when he says he can run a 4.3. I think he will.

I agree with everything you just said, except for the 40-time. Though I think Lynch will run at least a respectable 4.5. One more thing, Lynch is a great team leader. The comparison of Lynch to Arrington don't hold water to me. Just because a guy wears the same helmet or plays in the same system doesn't mean that they have similar talent. Arrington is smaller and more of a quick vs. fast back. Lynch on the other hand is well-built and runs angry. I've been watching him for a while because he's on my team's college roster. He's going to be a great pro.

Since I'm the idiot who threw JJ into the conversation. let me try and clear things up.In the league where I have the 1.2 pick, I am in desperate need of a RB. So unless something COMPLETELY strange happens, I will take Marshawn and be very happy.

 

[Gandalf]

Since I'm the idiot who threw JJ into the conversation. let me try and clear things up.In the league where I have the 1.2 pick, I am in desperate need of a RB. So unless something COMPLETELY strange happens, I will take Marshawn and be very happy.

I wasn't thinking you were an idiot at all. A lot of people are scared off by the JJ comparison. I'm sure there are a few NFL scouts who would be too. It's a common misperception that I've been hearing ever since Arrington flopped in those early days in Arizona. I think at 1.2 you are looking at Calvin Johnson or Marshawn Lynch. That is a tough call to me because I like both a lot. So it should probably come down to team needs. Most teams can't afford to pass on a hightly touted RB prospect, but if you have 3 stud RBs already then CJ is the better call.

 

[lod2005]

He's better than Peterson. In today's game, Peterson finds the sidelines on 3rd and 5+. Lynch will still be in there because he's a dual threat.

 

[fruity pebbles]

He's better than Peterson. In today's game, Peterson finds the sidelines on 3rd and 5+. Lynch will still be in there because he's a dual threat.

Don't assume Peterson can't catch the ball just because that wasn't part of the college system he was in. Steven Jackson wasn't used much as a receiver in college either. Would you call him a poor RB out of the backfield? Lynch hasn't been a prolific receiving back either. He only had 300 yards last year, around 150 the year before.

 

[MelKiperJr]

He's better than Peterson. In today's game, Peterson finds the sidelines on 3rd and 5+. Lynch will still be in there because he's a dual threat.

Don't assume Peterson can't catch the ball just because that wasn't part of the college system he was in. Steven Jackson wasn't used much as a receiver in college either. Would you call him a poor RB out of the backfield? Lynch hasn't been a prolific receiving back either. He only had 300 yards last year, around 150 the year before.

Steven Jackson was a strong receiving option at Oregon State in 2003 with 44 receptions, 470 yards and 3 TDs as a receiving RB. That's why St. Louis was so high on him, and also why Lynch is getting so much pub now (so not a very good comparison: Peterson/Jackson). He was also described as "Catches the ball well and can be dangerous as an outlet receiver."Just pointing that out.

 

[prymetyme25]

He's better than Peterson. In today's game, Peterson finds the sidelines on 3rd and 5+. Lynch will still be in there because he's a dual threat.

Don't assume Peterson can't catch the ball just because that wasn't part of the college system he was in. Steven Jackson wasn't used much as a receiver in college either. Would you call him a poor RB out of the backfield? Lynch hasn't been a prolific receiving back either. He only had 300 yards last year, around 150 the year before.

I was gonna say the same thing but i didn't want to turn this into a peterson thread

 

[fruity pebbles]

He's better than Peterson. In today's game, Peterson finds the sidelines on 3rd and 5+. Lynch will still be in there because he's a dual threat.

Don't assume Peterson can't catch the ball just because that wasn't part of the college system he was in. Steven Jackson wasn't used much as a receiver in college either. Would you call him a poor RB out of the backfield? Lynch hasn't been a prolific receiving back either. He only had 300 yards last year, around 150 the year before.

Steven Jackson was a strong receiving option at Oregon State in 2003 with 44 receptions, 470 yards and 3 TDs as a receiving RB. That's why St. Louis was so high on him, and also why Lynch is getting so much pub now (so not a very good comparison: Peterson/Jackson). He was also described as "Catches the ball well and can be dangerous as an outlet receiver."Just pointing that out.

Sorry, I was thinking Tomlinson but wrote Jackson. Should have read Tomlinson.

 

[lod2005]

Steven Jackson was a strong receiving option at Oregon State in 2003 with 44 receptions, 470 yards and 3 TDs as a receiving RB. That's why St. Louis was so high on him, and also why Lynch is getting so much pub now (so not a very good comparison: Peterson/Jackson). He was also described as "Catches the ball well and can be dangerous as an outlet receiver."Just pointing that out.

This is correct.

 

[Thorpe]

Lynch played all year with 2 sprained ankles. The year before he missed time becuase of a finger injury. He has talent, but he needs to stay healthy, just like Peterson. Arrington would hit the hole very quickly, but Lynch sometimes likes to dance behind the line of scrimmage too much.

Lynch is the by far the best back Cal has had since Russell White, and he might be better than White who ate himself out of an NFL career during his junior year (and it didn't help he got drafted by the team that took Bettis the same year)