Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I can't even watch the trailer. The whine that happens every so often is painful. Does anyone know why the heck that is there?
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Marvel Cinematic Universe - Loved Thunderbolts*! - Also Marvel Trivia May 5th at 9 EST on FootballGuys (1 Viewer)
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Peak
Footballguy
It's supposed to be Disney's first R rated show (Maybe NR or MA, I don't remember). But definitely more like Netflix and less Disney Princess.
B Maverick
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I don't think TV has an R ratings in their rating system. It will probably be TV-MA as you suggested, which is the highest of the TV ratings (just above TV-14)
B Maverick
Footballguy
I believe you are correct, TV-MA. So hopefully closer to the Netflix shows.
It is also the first "Spotlight" character which is supposed to mean you don't need to watch any other shows before this one.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This has been mentioned in the press every day for the last two months I think. There were lots of articles yesterday but we are still waiting on something official from Marvel (in the form of removing Kang Dynasty from the release schedule).
Did you happen to see anything official?
Peak
Footballguy
That's the rumor floating around right now. Some of the big wigs are concerned about the Major's trial, so they put in some new scenes to steer away from Kang if needed.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It looks really good that Kang Dynasty is dead. Both the writer and director have been removed from the project.
I also saw a rumor that Galactus has been cast. Getting a Dr Doom/Galactus combo is the big bad a multi movie arc needs.
I also saw a rumor that Galactus has been cast. Getting a Dr Doom/Galactus combo is the big bad a multi movie arc needs.
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’Kang Dynasty’ Loses Its Director As MCU Moves On From Jonathan Majors
Jonathan Majors’ MCU career is looking worse and worse by the day.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
ok, cool, I have seen the same. Nothing official yet as movies lose directors all the time but this is strongly trending in the direction that Marvel will kill Kang Dynasty.’Kang Dynasty’ Loses Its Director As MCU Moves On From Jonathan Majors
Jonathan Majors’ MCU career is looking worse and worse by the day.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
So now the question is will Marvel continue a multiverse story line even with out Kang? The Marvels mid credit scene seems like they will want to continue.
I have not been the biggest fan of the multiverse, but much of that was not enjoying Kang. If they can shoe horn in another big bad into the multiverse story line, it won't feel like they wasted so many movies on a theme they won't give a conclusion too.
I have not been the biggest fan of the multiverse, but much of that was not enjoying Kang. If they can shoe horn in another big bad into the multiverse story line, it won't feel like they wasted so many movies on a theme they won't give a conclusion too.
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-OZ-
Footballguy
DD was either A or B list. I liked him and Spider-Man back when I collected comics.
DD was the reason we got Netflix originally and is still the best Marvel show made. But yes, introducing him to the MCU was new. His the the character they most need to get right. From what little we’ve seen, there’s hope.
I hope not. If they loved that storyline they would have just re-cast Kang. The Marvels was a huge bomb commercially so I question whether they are going to feel locked into a major multiverse storyline just because of some post-credits scenes.
-OZ-
Footballguy
There were rumors about Dr Doom, but I’m not sure that’s really needed with the way Loki ended.
Capella
Footballguy
It’s a sunk cost at this point. Most people hate the multiverse. They gotta cut their losses on it and move on.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Interestingly, it may fall on Deadpool 3 to help us figure out where we are headed as not only will Deadpool enter the MCU himself, he will bring the Xmen in as well. We just don't know how (or in what Universe) this will occur. So far, MCU has only shown XMen in other universes.
Peak
Footballguy
There have been quite a number of multiverses shown though....Quantamania was a new universe; Spider-Man connected the Sony Universe to the MCU; Dr. Strange introduced a whole lot of new universes along with America Chavez who can travel between universes; Loki gave us the TVA who can also traverse universes...I don't see why they would cancel that saga so quickly.
They could swerve into the Battleworld storyline with Dr Doom as a precursor to Secret Wars. They could still use the multiverse characters to pull from and build out the storyline. Could even swerve and go with the Beyonder and use that instead of Kang as the lynchpin - maybe the Beyonder appears amidst all the chaos and culls all Kang out of existence?
I wouldn't want to veer directly towards Galactus just yet. That's good for FF, Silver Surfer, maybe Dr. Strange.....but not an Xmen, Spiderman or Avenger level threat.
I wouldn't mind seeing a phase that would lead into the Kree/Skrull War. That would lend itself across characters/movies pretty easily. Introduce the Xmen and have the Gladiator appear as End Credit scene to recruit them. You already have a Fury/Marvel connection with the Skrull. It could even lead into an Avengers vs Xmen storyline/phase. Some good possibilities to come, but first you need to finish the multiverse arc to get all of the other characters into the same universe.
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Footballguy
Wasn’t it just 616-adjacent?
B Maverick
Footballguy
Before announcing Kang I was hoping this would be the phase of Galactus, bringing in SilverSurfer, the Fantastic Four, Dr Doom. Would hate for them to change courses to that now and potentially shortchange that group.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
some news came out today, which indicated Marvel are now looking for a single director to direct both Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars which will be renamed into a two part story.
Peak
Footballguy
My son thought the guy who protrayed the High Evolutionary would make a good Kang. Said to retcon and make the HE another Kang Variant.
Thought he did a great job with the HE character. I wouldn't mind it.
Psychopav
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Too bad. Jonathan Majors is awesome. The multiverse line is boring and lame but Kang time travel is interesting and he just added to it for me.
I really wish they'd get back to street level or even societal level with Spider-Man, DD, and X-Men. I can take or leave the cosmic stuff.
I really wish they'd get back to street level or even societal level with Spider-Man, DD, and X-Men. I can take or leave the cosmic stuff.
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Bromigo
i think the truth is that the multiverse story line is complicated and people just arent grasping it i know a guy who says he is watching loki and likes it but has no idea what is going on and it might just be as simple as that for a lot of people so no matter who you recast into whatever role people just arent absorbing the source material and arent buying in as a result take that to the bank bromigo
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I agree with this. Kang would have been awesome with Majors. I think they realized that recasting him wasn't going to work and they are moving on.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
That's definitely a whine, not an echo.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
What ever happened to Shang Chi? Aren’t his rings the same as the Marvel girl’s?
I might have been in the minority, but I wasn’t a fan of that movie. I enjoyed the start through the intro of his sister, but after they got to the magic place, it nosedived.
Peak
Footballguy
I don't think it was ever determined....only that it was providing a beacon to somewhere in space - but it's origins were unknown. I know there was some talk of them being tied to the Eternals, but I think that got shut down quickly since no one seemed to care for that movie/group of characters.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
At the time I thought that the beacon was going to be an important part of the next phases for the MCU but I don't think the beacon was was brought up again in any movie or tv show.
We are suppose to be getting a second Shang Chi movie. The director who was removed from what looks like the now defunct Kang Dynasty movie is going back to helm the sequel for Shang Chi (he also directed the first one)
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
WTF is Madame Web?
Peak
Footballguy
This is one movie I'm not certain about yet....
Madame Web is a character from Spider-man comics who has her hand (literally) on the "web of life". Think of this like in Loki where each branch is a different universe, or altenate timeline. In Spider-man comics, there is a similar setup called the web of life in which Madam Web can see into these timelines/universes by touching the web. She can basically see into the future or predict future events.
So the movie Madame Web is an extension of the Sony Spiderverse, which includes all of those spider-man movies, Venom, the vampire movie (can't remember the name), and soon to be Kraven. Madame Web can interact with each spider-person from each alternate timeline/multiverse, bring them into the Web of Life and use them like pawns - I believe. This is what I'm recalling from comics, but it's been some time since I've read that area initially.
I thought we would've seen her in the Spider-verse animated movies, but I guess not. That would've made more sense to me instead of them using Spiderman 2099 as the figure head of that centralized/universal spider lair.
It's one of those moments being used as a bludgeon to attack the movie by people who didn't like it. But in the near infinite of the cosmos, there probably is a species that communicates by singing. It's a nice way to get away from a stereotypical alien encounter. It's not like the MCU hasn't adopted show tunes/songs into their repertoire either; what with the Broadway Avengers tune "I Can Do This All Day" in Hawkeye and I Don't Know What Christmas Is" in the Guardians Christmas Special.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This is probably only for super fans, but I have been reading the newly released MCU timeline book and so far it is fantastic.
I have yet to see if and how it will handle the "8 years later" goof in Spider-man Homecoming.
If you have a super fan in your family, this would make for a nice holiday gift
I have yet to see if and how it will handle the "8 years later" goof in Spider-man Homecoming.
If you have a super fan in your family, this would make for a nice holiday gift
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B Maverick
Footballguy
Captain Marvel was in the Shang Chi credit scene and has now come across the bangles. I think there was a lot of speculation (here and social media) about the rings and bangles being linked to Kang and would tie in like the stones did in the Infinity Saga.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I agree that was very likely to be the case.
And when you consider that the director of 10 rings was also going to be the director of Kang Dynasty, it makes even more sense.
Now that it appears Kang will be gone, they are going to have to pivot some how.
We know in the comics who the makers of the 10 rings were (the Makluans). Do the comics give the back story to the bangles in terms of who made them?
B Maverick
Footballguy
I don't know about the comics side. There is some history of them shown in Ms Marvel and the Marvels, obviously ancient. Not sure if they are as old as the rings or not...
I really hope they don't bring back the OG Avengers as rumored. Focus on moving forward with what you have introduced that do not have to be tied to Kang.
Peak
Footballguy
From a comics perspective, these are the Quantam Bands worn by Quasar and Captain Mar-Vell
Eon was another planet like being, similar to Ego from GtoG. He was Quasar's mentor in the comics for awhile. From the same link above:
Another interesting plot twist I didn't know until reading this wiki site:
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Angry Bovine
That cannot happen. No offense but just a total miscast if that is the case.
the moops
Footballguy
Don’t you need to like see how it is before making this judgment?
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’ll reserve judgment but it definitely seems like an odd match. I don’t care if genders are swapped for most roles, but she could be so much better in other roles. (Initial take)
I’m looking forward to a somewhat similar actress coming into the MCU but rumors seem to be all over the place for Emma Mackey. With a role in blade being one option.
I'd imagine she's playing another herald of Galactus...Nova.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
That was Mr R's thought, too.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Generally yes, but the Silver Surfer has a definite image that is ingrained in reader's minds and she doesn't fit it. That large of a mismatch right off the bat would be difficult to overcome.
Nova is another powerful character, but does not have as iconic a look as Silver Surfer and I think she could do fine in that role.
the moops
Footballguy
Only thing ingrained in my mind is a super shiny silvery dude. Wouldn't recognize any facial features I don't think
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Footballguy
Nova was scheduled to be a show but then was canceled. That might be because they decided to go this route. How does the character link to nova corps? Seems odd for the corps we’ve seen so far to be part of a herald of galactus.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
There are 2 Nova's in the comics
- One version of Nova is a man named Richard Rider. He is a member of the Nova Corps. He is NOT a herald of Galactus
- The other version of Nova is a woman named Frankie Raye. She is a herald of Galactus but has no relation to the Nova Corps