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Marvin Harrison Is A Fraud (1 Viewer)

nashua55 said:
Geez, another argument about Harrison's alleged involvement in that shooting incident? That's sooo August/September.

Let's stay in the present. I'd much prefer to read a logical reason why Harrison will turn around his sub-par season with an outstanding performance against the Texans this Sunday (since I'm bravely starting him in several leagues).
You are right. I shouldn't have gotten sucked into the shooting incident topic. My bad for elevating it.As for his fantasy production, I think Harrison will continue to be inconsistant. His upside is if Manning and the colts offense keeps improving. His downside is what we have seen all year, which is medicore play at best. I would play Harrison strictly on what is the best matchup in relation to the other spot starters that you are considering to start.
Sucked in? See post 19..........
Geez you guys are tough. Ok I am sorry that I opened the whole can of worms. Footballwise Harrison=HOFer character I will not comment any further.
Character wise, what do you have on Harrison besides someone shooting his gun? Maybe it's sitting by himself at the end of the bench? That has nothing to do with bad character. He's just an introvert. Has he ever spoke negative about his teammates to the media? Oh, that's right, he doesn't like talking to the media. I guess that's because of bad character :excited: Until this shooting incident, which he's been absolved of any wrong doing, Harrison's character has been spotless.
 
Is Harrison worth consideration this weekend? I just put him on my bench in favor of Antonio Bryant and am toying with the idea of sitting LT to start Harrison (WR's get 5 bonus points after 25 receiving yards, RB's get 5 bonus points after 50 rushing yards).

 
Geez, another argument about Harrison's alleged involvement in that shooting incident? That's sooo August/September.Let's stay in the present. I'd much prefer to read a logical reason why Harrison will turn around his sub-par season with an outstanding performance against the Texans this Sunday (since I'm bravely starting him in several leagues).
Why I think Marvin can turn it around somewhat.Reasons for decline-1. Early in the season, if Marvin #'s are down 50%- 25% of that is do to his decline, 25% due to Manning being off and missing him. For all the lost a step talk, I have seen every game and am a big Manning fan, but there is no doupt that Harrison has gotten open multiple times early in the year, and Manning either overthrew, underthrew or often threw to the back shoulder instead of front, or too late on a comback route e. Even Wayne's #'s are down, take away the lucky tip and even last weeks game was just avg... So unless Wayne has lost a step too- some of this decline is on Manning--- also the oline not giving Manning his usual time, and lack of running game.2. Early in the season, teams were actually paying alot of attention to Harrison, Minn, others put their top CB's on him or doubled him..3. For the most part Colts have played top def's.Reason for rebound4. Harrison is currently getting slammed for the dropped passes.... as Dungy said- it's more important that Harrison is able to get open and behind the def-- the guy got open- he just dropped the passes... His hands have never been in question, he has lost a step def, but he hasn't lost the ability to catch- that doesn't happen-- he just had a really bad game-- that does happen to everyone--- Michael Jordan in his prime had plenty of 5 for 30 shooting nights, but that didn't mean he lost his shot for good.5. As in the Baltimore game_ Harrison has shown the ability to abuse the CB's with his route running, experience. That game was a great example of his #'s being worse than they should- Manning flat out missed a wide open Harrison at least 3 times for td's when Harrison had blown by the CB.6. The Colts have some really good passing matchups finally- weaker CB's that will have to double Wayne, account for Clark, Gonzo, and take chances with Harrison7. There has to be some pride from a great athlete to go out on a better note I would think.So I agree he's not what he was- but he should be with what he does have left and in that offense a borderline 1000 yd wr... Maybe he is hit shy now, maybe his heart isn't in it- but the things people are pointing out he is doing to indicate that is things he has always done. He never sat with the rest of the offense, he always would go down and not take a hit, etc.. Its just that he was putting up huge #'s so no one cared...I believe sold WR3 in fantasy lleague here on out, maybe WR2 if he gets some momentum going.
At least for this week, check on all my reasons for a Harrison turnaround. rebound from unusual drops, Manning more accurater, lesser def faced, pride.... This game is indicative of the way Harrison should perform- nothing long, but a quality possession WR #2... too bad I didn't take my own advice and start him though.
 
Geez, another argument about Harrison's alleged involvement in that shooting incident? That's sooo August/September.Let's stay in the present. I'd much prefer to read a logical reason why Harrison will turn around his sub-par season with an outstanding performance against the Texans this Sunday (since I'm bravely starting him in several leagues).
Why I think Marvin can turn it around somewhat.Reasons for decline-1. Early in the season, if Marvin #'s are down 50%- 25% of that is do to his decline, 25% due to Manning being off and missing him. For all the lost a step talk, I have seen every game and am a big Manning fan, but there is no doupt that Harrison has gotten open multiple times early in the year, and Manning either overthrew, underthrew or often threw to the back shoulder instead of front, or too late on a comback route e. Even Wayne's #'s are down, take away the lucky tip and even last weeks game was just avg... So unless Wayne has lost a step too- some of this decline is on Manning--- also the oline not giving Manning his usual time, and lack of running game.2. Early in the season, teams were actually paying alot of attention to Harrison, Minn, others put their top CB's on him or doubled him..3. For the most part Colts have played top def's.Reason for rebound4. Harrison is currently getting slammed for the dropped passes.... as Dungy said- it's more important that Harrison is able to get open and behind the def-- the guy got open- he just dropped the passes... His hands have never been in question, he has lost a step def, but he hasn't lost the ability to catch- that doesn't happen-- he just had a really bad game-- that does happen to everyone--- Michael Jordan in his prime had plenty of 5 for 30 shooting nights, but that didn't mean he lost his shot for good.5. As in the Baltimore game_ Harrison has shown the ability to abuse the CB's with his route running, experience. That game was a great example of his #'s being worse than they should- Manning flat out missed a wide open Harrison at least 3 times for td's when Harrison had blown by the CB.6. The Colts have some really good passing matchups finally- weaker CB's that will have to double Wayne, account for Clark, Gonzo, and take chances with Harrison7. There has to be some pride from a great athlete to go out on a better note I would think.So I agree he's not what he was- but he should be with what he does have left and in that offense a borderline 1000 yd wr... Maybe he is hit shy now, maybe his heart isn't in it- but the things people are pointing out he is doing to indicate that is things he has always done. He never sat with the rest of the offense, he always would go down and not take a hit, etc.. Its just that he was putting up huge #'s so no one cared...I believe sold WR3 in fantasy lleague here on out, maybe WR2 if he gets some momentum going.
At least for this week, check on all my reasons for a Harrison turnaround. rebound from unusual drops, Manning more accurater, lesser def faced, pride.... This game is indicative of the way Harrison should perform- nothing long, but a quality possession WR #2... too bad I didn't take my own advice and start him though.
I stuck with my gut and started him (glad I did). Now let's see if he can show some consistency.
 
I'm not sure why Marvin Harrison isnt behind bars now
He's an NFL player, silly. PS I am not saying he should or should not be behind bars for sure either way. But NFL players tend to get preferential treatment.As for Harrison in general I think his "class act" rep is overblown and have heard he does tend to be a pouty jerk, and the article is probably spot on, even if it is a kicking him while he's down thing - but who knows. In his prime he was one of the best of course, but that prime is long long gone.
 
Doyel is easily one of the biggest ####bags in journalism today

cheapshot artist, never misses an opportunity to hyperbolize an insult.. just a scumbag.

he used to be on Czaban once a week.. maybe he still is.. unbearable personality.

 
Kick him while he's down type article IMO.Not exactly a brave write-up...more like a calculated, well-timed bash session. Maybe it's well deserved but it comes across as a hatchet job on a future Hall of Famer instead of a rational piece on an aging player who had a very poor game and off the field issues this past summer. There is a way to write Harrison's 2008 story but this isn't it. :wub:
Flip through Doyel's archives and you'll see this is the only kind of article he writes. He's a who-do-I-rip-today hack, and it's impossible to take any of his columns seriously once you've read at least two of them.
:towelwave:
 
Harrison is quiet -- anyone who knows him knows he is a POS - doesn't sign autographs , is a bad teamate - or at least a non-factor of a teamate , only out for himself.

Okay he throw the ball to the ref after a score - great - doesn't mean theres a bit of class behind that.

 
Since when do FF owners care about character? :lmao:

We had people here defending LJ to the hilt..

Can Marvin put up 60-70 and a TD on Sunday? That is all I care about Marvin Harrison.
BINGO!

 
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