marvin harrison suffer a setback? (1 Viewer)

[Mikey16x]

i know the colts will play the patriots in 2 weeks... i know they want marvin on the field for that game for sure, but does anybody have any information for week 8??... is he expected to play.. im also hearing he "might have had his knee scoped" during the bye week and is suffering a setback.. if any homers with the daily paper or anybody has any new info plz post it... i might have to go with derek hagan grrrrrr

 

[Anthony Borbely]

The Colts play at 1pm, so just check the inactives before the game, around noon. I doubt you will hear anything before that.

 

[EdwardCat]

He's a game time decision. If he does play, expect pretty crappy numbers. I would look elsewhere this week.

 

[murzman]

This is what happened last week. Owners who started him kind of got burned (3 for 20 I think) cause he apparently was on a play count. I think it possibly could be more of the same even if he does play.... but I have the philosophy to never bench your studs. What are the Harrison owners doing with him this week? Play him if he is set to play? Or bench him regardless thinking he may in for limited snaps even if he does go?

I would be tempted to start a WR like Ike Hilliard over him right now... thoughts?

 

[Disco Stu]

I would be tempted to start a WR like Ike Hilliard over him right now... thoughts?

This is the exact decision I need to make. Not sure which way to go here. After reading this, I'm leaning toward Hilliard...

(Rotoworld) Colts coach Tony Dungy confirmed that Marvin Harrison's (questionable, knee) status for Week 8 won't be known until just prior to game time.Impact: Harrison didn't practice at all this week, however, so it'd be difficult to count on him playing against Carolina. Dungy conceded that Marvin's status this week is "obviously a lot more iffy. It's how he feels and how much he's able to do," Dungy said. "(Monday night against the Jaguars), he did and felt good going into the game. If he does again this week, we'll play him. If he doesn't, we'll hold him out." Harrison was on a snap count against the Jags and appears almost certain to be again this week if he's dressed on game day.

Note that the last statement is just Rotoworld's opinion not fact, but it does sound reasonable.

 

[barista]

sheesh... never bench your studs unless they're injured.

I just traded for Marvin but he's sitting this week for Ron Curry or Jennings or Toomer depending on the magic 8-ball.

 

[nerangers]

This is what happened last week. Owners who started him kind of got burned (3 for 20 I think) cause he apparently was on a play count. I think it possibly could be more of the same even if he does play.... but I have the philosophy to never bench your studs. What are the Harrison owners doing with him this week? Play him if he is set to play? Or bench him regardless thinking he may in for limited snaps even if he does go?I would be tempted to start a WR like Ike Hilliard over him right now... thoughts?

Because of bye weeks and injuries, I have no choice but to play him. CBS had him listed as questionable, but should play. I am thinking like you though, that he will be on a play count again.

 

[nerangers]

sheesh... never bench your studs unless they're injured.

And since he is injured, you are saying bench him?

 

[barista]

sheesh... never bench your studs unless they're injured.

And since he is injured, you are saying bench him?

yep.. I edited to include for whom. You just read and responded too quick.

 

[Heaton]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

 

[EdwardCat]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Sad... This will probably be his last season.

 

[bcr8f]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Yes heard the same from the local paper. Marvin didn't practice all week.The Indianapolis Colts will be without two starters when they meet the Carolina Panthers Sunday.Eight-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Marvin Harrison (knee) and weak-side linebacker Freddy Keiaho (post-concussion syndrome) have been ruled out of the game and will not accompany the team to Charlotte.There was no comment from the team on either player.Harrison bruised his left knee Sept. 30 against Denver and missed the following game against Tampa Bay. He returned to the field last Monday night at Jacksonville, catching three passes for 16 yards, but did not practice all week.Keiaho suffered a concussion against the Broncos, missed the Tampa Bay game and was cleared to play against Jacksonville.from Indianapolis Star

 

[Koya]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Sad... This will probably be his last season.

What would make you state that? There is NOTHING out there (that I've seen) to even suggest this. The guy gets a nagging injury and you are ready to off his career?

 

[Loopdog]

i wouldnt go mailing in his career just yet but this season may look like a wash when all is said and done. It's rare that guys just twist a knee and that's the end of it. Most of the time these things linger or wind up being worse than originally thought

 

[tomdeck]

This is what happened last week. Owners who started him kind of got burned (3 for 20 I think) cause he apparently was on a play count. I think it possibly could be more of the same even if he does play.... but I have the philosophy to never bench your studs. What are the Harrison owners doing with him this week? Play him if he is set to play? Or bench him regardless thinking he may in for limited snaps even if he does go?I would be tempted to start a WR like Ike Hilliard over him right now... thoughts?

I am benching MH and going with J.Cotchery. Not crazy about that match up but maybe with Coles a little banged up I will get lucky.

 

[EdwardCat]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Sad... This will probably be his last season.

What would make you state that? There is NOTHING out there (that I've seen) to even suggest this. The guy gets a nagging injury and you are ready to off his career?

In case you didn't notice, he's old...35. Second, he's been hampered by this injury for a few games now. When he wasn't injured, his production as compared to past years has dramatically declined. If he was wise, he would go out on top instead of dragging this out.

 

[Koya]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Sad... This will probably be his last season.

What would make you state that? There is NOTHING out there (that I've seen) to even suggest this. The guy gets a nagging injury and you are ready to off his career?

In case you didn't notice, he's old...35. Second, he's been hampered by this injury for a few games now. When he wasn't injured, his production as compared to past years has dramatically declined. If he was wise, he would go out on top instead of dragging this out.

You willing to wager on this one? You are utterly speculating with no basis other than the fact that a guy is 35 and his injury has lasted "a few games now" - oh yeah, better get thee to a nursing home.35 is old, it is not ancient.How did Marvin do last year? So it is not as if he is years removed from greatness. Marvin was off to a typical slow start and then got hurt. Again, there is no logical reason to jump to wont come back next season. It's an absurd thought without having anything to back it. That said, he might want to refrain from Pre Game dunks over the crossbar.

 

[EdwardCat]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Sad... This will probably be his last season.

What would make you state that? There is NOTHING out there (that I've seen) to even suggest this. The guy gets a nagging injury and you are ready to off his career?

In case you didn't notice, he's old...35. Second, he's been hampered by this injury for a few games now. When he wasn't injured, his production as compared to past years has dramatically declined. If he was wise, he would go out on top instead of dragging this out.

You willing to wager on this one? You are utterly speculating with no basis other than the fact that a guy is 35 and his injury has lasted "a few games now" - oh yeah, better get thee to a nursing home.35 is old, it is not ancient.How did Marvin do last year? So it is not as if he is years removed from greatness. Marvin was off to a typical slow start and then got hurt. Again, there is no logical reason to jump to wont come back next season. It's an absurd thought without having anything to back it. That said, he might want to refrain from Pre Game dunks over the crossbar.

There are several examples of RBs falling to mediocrity after they reach the age of 30. It is not a reach to hear of a player going from stud to dud simply because they've aged one year. Please find for me examples of WRs who have had stud seasons at age 35 or older. You might find one or two. The fact that Harrison has fallen to No. 2 WR even when healthy is indicative of the loss of physical skill he's experiencing because of his age.

 

[Koya]

ESPN Ticker on ESPN 2 just said Harrison is OUT for the Carolina game. Is that reliable?

Sad... This will probably be his last season.

What would make you state that? There is NOTHING out there (that I've seen) to even suggest this. The guy gets a nagging injury and you are ready to off his career?

In case you didn't notice, he's old...35. Second, he's been hampered by this injury for a few games now. When he wasn't injured, his production as compared to past years has dramatically declined. If he was wise, he would go out on top instead of dragging this out.

You willing to wager on this one? You are utterly speculating with no basis other than the fact that a guy is 35 and his injury has lasted "a few games now" - oh yeah, better get thee to a nursing home.35 is old, it is not ancient.

How did Marvin do last year? So it is not as if he is years removed from greatness. Marvin was off to a typical slow start and then got hurt. Again, there is no logical reason to jump to wont come back next season. It's an absurd thought without having anything to back it.

That said, he might want to refrain from Pre Game dunks over the crossbar.

There are several examples of RBs falling to mediocrity after they reach the age of 30. It is not a reach to hear of a player going from stud to dud simply because they've aged one year. Please find for me examples of WRs who have had stud seasons at age 35 or older. You might find one or two. The fact that Harrison has fallen to No. 2 WR even when healthy is indicative of the loss of physical skill he's experiencing because of his age.

I did not see nearly a large enough sample size to come to this conclusion. Marvin had been in great shape coming into the year, and looked just as good as always. For now, I give the player the benefit of the doubt - 2 subpar games and then an injury doesnt give me much to work with. When Marvin is back, be it this year or next, there will be the opportunity to determine if he has fallen off significantly.Personally, I have not see anything to suggest that - but the injury is certainly a red flag.