Mathews On Short Leash (1 Viewer)

[Nucker101]

Weird how zandbak, FFNinja and JHuber77 don't come in here anymore.

I think it's safe to say that he doesn't have that RB1 upside the rest of this season as some had hoped and is a more of a matchup RB2/flex play. He probably cost a lot of owners that drafted him in the first round before his original injury, those that bought him low obviously didn't get the return we were hoping hoping for but he's still serviceable. IMO a lot of it has to do with Norv Turner, the loss of V-Jax, and the regression of Rivers and Gates. The Chargers really need to change some things in the off-season. Mathews is definitely a piece to build around since he's still young and hasn't had many career touches at this point compared to most backs that have been in the league for a few years. Definitely think that drafting a stud QB in round one is a safer investment these days with all the RB's struggling or getting injured.

 

[zandbak]

I really think this is one of the worst offensive coaching jobs I've ever seen. The lack of creativity how they use an elite talent like mathews is stunning, all 1st and ten dives basically. Heck they even started battle again. Usage and play calling is the only thing holding him back

The hilarious thing is they've been doing the same thing all SEASON. 1st and 10? Mathews up the gut. I really, honestly believe that Norv has a slowly developing brain injury/disease.

 

[JHuber77]

Weird how zandbak, FFNinja and JHuber77 don't come in here anymore.

I'm right here fool. I just don't wish to get into it with you. You seem to try to troll everyone just like your doing right now. So I am refraining from having a wit match with the witless.

 

[FF Ninja]

Weird how zandbak, FFNinja and JHuber77 don't come in here anymore.

I'm right here fool. I just don't wish to get into it with you. You seem to try to troll everyone just like your doing right now. So I am refraining from having a wit match with the witless.

Homeboy is a ######## supreme. I'm not even sure if he plays fantasy football. I think he just looks for underperforming players and then trolls their threads. Winner.Edit: ######## = D.B.

 

[shadyridr]

Mathews didnt start the game because he missed Wednesday & Thursday's practice

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Soon Norv n AJ will be gone dyno owners fear not.

Re-draft? lost season. it Happens

 

[SayWhat?]

Pulled at the end for not getting out of bounds. Potential garbage time points missed. And considering we're not getting a whole bunch else, that sucks. At least he didn't lay a complete turd.

Or was it because he was winded from actually running 20 yards for once? To be honest, I'm not sure. I was surprised he was in the game during the two minute drill when they were trailing towards the end of the game. Regardless of why he didn't return after that big gain, it was an egregious lack of awareness to not get out of bounds.

 

[William Munny]

Really amazing how Norv may have really done some damage to the kids psyche with that 2 game garbage over a couple of fumbles. Rivers turns it over 3 times a game seemingly and he is untouched. What a complete fool.

 

[flapgreen]

He's really dumb.

 

[Raider Nation]

He's really dumb.

I'm not sure if you're talking about Norv or Rivers or Mathews.But I agree.

 

[OU#1]

I benched this bum. Looks like he's having a decent start...

Your welcome!

 

[Raider Nation]

Today was a perfect example of what a tease this guy is.

He was absolutely invisible all day. I barely noticed he was playing.

But he still got 11.8 in a PPR without even scoring.

 

[shadyridr]

Today was a perfect example of what a tease this guy is.He was absolutely invisible all day. I barely noticed he was playing.But he still got 11.8 in a PPR without even scoring.

The oline and rivers are putrid. Not saying hes a stud by any means cuz he gets tackled way too easily but hes not as much to blame as those other two factors IMO.

 

[kyoun1e]

Today was a perfect example of what a tease this guy is.He was absolutely invisible all day. I barely noticed he was playing.But he still got 11.8 in a PPR without even scoring.

The oline and rivers are putrid. Not saying hes a stud by any means cuz he gets tackled way too easily but hes not as much to blame as those other two factors IMO.

I'm tired of all this Mathews complaining.Anyone with half a brain in their head realizes this has more to do with Norv and the play calling.Mathews has zero opportunity to get in a groove.Sure, it would be nice if he broke one, but hell, this coaching staff is doing him, and really none of the rest of the team (and fans) no favors.KY

 

[Raider Nation]

Thanks for the breaking news that it's not ALL Ryan's fault.

This is the thread where we complain about it.

 

[jim k]

It is a lost season for Mathews. He is having a bad year on a bad team. I would not be surprised if he does not score a td the rest of the year. He is not a feature back. He is a guy who has the first down run role.

 

[Raider Nation]

It is a lost season for Mathews. He is having a bad year on a bad team. I would not be surprised if he does not score a td the rest of the year. He is not a feature back. He is a guy who has the first down run role.

Wish I had ten bucks for each time he's gotten hit at soon as he gets the handoff.

 

[Bojang0301]

Always love seeing Ronnie Brown and Jackie Battle on the field. Sure on the stats at the end of the game you go: Ryan got his touches but when he's being pulled on every play they want to throw the ball or short yardage it's kind of easy to know what the team is going to do when he is actually in the game. People can argue with me until they're blue in the face, it isn't this guys talent, it's Norv moron Turner.

 

[Kiddnets]

First time I watched most of a SD game....what a train wreck.

Norv calls a putrid game...50% of Matthews handoffs were from the shotgun where he got hit before he even gets to the line of scrimmage. Matthews is clearly one of their few gamebreakers but Norv pulls him for lesser talents in a ton of situations - short ydge, long ydge, 3rd down....throw in an absolute abandonment of the running game - when they were ahead - and you have a lousy stat line. I mean SD had the ball up 3 pts with 4 minutes left and Norv threw three times from the shotgun - then in OT Norv plays the hurry up O and keeps him on the bench! Dumb dumb dumb....wont help matthews owners - its a lost year but the kid still has talent. Would even buy low in a dynasty league...Norv will be thrown out on his ear finally and Matthews will have a very god year next yr.

 

[silentcoach]

Say what you want but he still averages over 20 "touches" a game.

touches meaning runs AND pass attempts.

But I do do agree, that the situation is which he gets these touches is a bit random...

Mathews' situation is better fantasy (ppr) wise than it is in "real life."

 

[Raider Nation]

Chargers into the red zone... little Ryan to the bench.

 

[jim k]

Debate is over. Mathews is an rb3. Hopefully his owners snagged Moreno and you can put Mathews on the bench where he belongs.

 

[Raider Nation]

Debate is over. Mathews is an rb3.

That high?Guy is a loser.

 

[shadyridr]

I traded this guy for mcfadden the week before mcfadden got hurt. Then came the DMC injury so i traded for greene. I haven't lost a single thing yet lol

 

[damageinc]

I made the Playoffs today despite Mathews. I sat Moreno , Dwyer and Law Firm for him. WIll drop Mathews soon as I can and go with one of the above going forward. He just stinks. I heard the announcer say that Turner thinks Mathews has no vision. Turner may be right. Maybe they should just start Ronnie Brown going forward.

 

[Raider Nation]

I heard the announcer say that Turner thinks Mathews has no vision.

I'm taking this literally. I think he's actually blind.

 

[johnnyboy8102]

It would be great for PPR purposes if Mathews got some of those cheap catches that Brown gets.

 

[Donsmith753]

How can you give a guy 4 carries in the first half of a close game, disgraceful.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I'm disappointed that he couldn't muster more than 7+ points in my PPR leagues, and 26 yards off of 9 carries is pretty woeful.

But maybe, just maybe, Mathews's lack of production can be be blamed on the fact that the Chargers overall suck, rather than the fact that Mathews is the worst halfback to don powder blue?

But he was the only RB to get any carries, so it's not as if there was another back ready and able to do better for the Chargers. The only other person who tried to advance the ball with their feet (Rivers) fumbled twice.

And he did nearly as much catching the ball as Ronnie Brown (3/25 vs 4/27) from a production standpoint.

 

[Phenix]

I'm cutting him for a defense just because.

There is no way possible he can help me win a title. He does not produce points.

 

[NYRAGE]

It would be great for PPR purposes if Mathews got some of those cheap catches that Brown gets.

It would also help if Rivers didn't bounce all those passes in front of him. Geez, Rivers has been awful this year.

 

[hines]

hearing the announcers say that Norv thinks Mathews doesn't have the vision just shows that we are right, Norv simply has no clue at all. how would he possibly know since 80% of Mathews carries come on 1st and 10 dives into the line that anyone who watches the game can predict? there is essentially never any room at all for the Chargers running game. the constant playing with Mathews head (twice let Battle start for a fumble and GM and Norv insinuated that fumble could cost Mathews his Chargers jersey, now it at times looks like Mathews runs thinking about not fumbling, once inexplicably started Battle because Mathews was hurt during the week, now these comments) makes it basically look like Norv personally doesn't like the guy.

I can't remember a more incompetent offensive coaching job in all the years I have played fantasy

 

[LargeMouthBass]

11 rush attempts? I guess they were behind the whole game playing catch up.

Fire Norv already and use Matthews the right way...

 

[Ghost Rider]

Where is the "Mathews is still gonna be a top 10 fantasy RB this year" crowd? JWB has been noticeably absent in this thread.

 

[finito]

hearing the announcers say that Norv thinks Mathews doesn't have the vision just shows that we are right, Norv simply has no clue at all. how would he possibly know since 80% of Mathews carries come on 1st and 10 dives into the line that anyone who watches the game can predict? there is essentially never any room at all for the Chargers running game. the constant playing with Mathews head (twice let Battle start for a fumble and GM and Norv insinuated that fumble could cost Mathews his Chargers jersey, now it at times looks like Mathews runs thinking about not fumbling, once inexplicably started Battle because Mathews was hurt during the week, now these comments) makes it basically look like Norv personally doesn't like the guy. I can't remember a more incompetent offensive coaching job in all the years I have played fantasy

Not that I'm trying to defend Norv, as I agree he should be fired and replaced with someone, anyone, but he does get to see Mathews in practice all the time, so he gets to see him a whole lot more than just during the game.

 

[MAC_32]

11 rush attempts? I guess they were behind the whole game playing catch up. Fire Norv already and use Matthews the right way...

Sigh.Norv needs to go, but his utilization of Mathews is not a problem. I understood why fantasy owners couldn't see through the forest a few weeks ago, but not being able to see it now is inexcusable.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

Norv is a #######. You have the lead and you refuse to run the damn ball.

It's so frustrating to be Matthews owner. Luckily though, Norv will get fired after this year.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

11 rush attempts? I guess they were behind the whole game playing catch up. Fire Norv already and use Matthews the right way...

Sigh.Norv needs to go, but his utilization of Mathews is not a problem. I understood why fantasy owners couldn't see through the forest a few weeks ago, but not being able to see it now is inexcusable.

Rushing 8 times with your RB when you have the lead is inexcusable.

 

[Banger]

I'm all for utilizing Matthews more and for the firing of Turner but Matthews, if he is truly an elite RB that many think he is, needs to make something out of nothing as well. There are a lot of guys that don't get carries, that are mis/under utilized, play on bad teams, etc.. If he went out there and busted some huge runs like Bryce Brown has done, he would force the teams hand in the situation but he hasn't done that at all.

He doesn't have 1 100 yard game this year, he only has 9 rushes for between 10 and 20 yards and only 1 for 20+ (30 yards). I think a big part of the problem is being selected high in the draft as an heir apparent to LT. If you watched most of the games this year, it's not as if he's been awesome and that the staff is blind. At least in my opinion.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I'm all for utilizing Matthews more and for the firing of Turner but Matthews, if he is truly an elite RB that many think he is, needs to make something out of nothing as well. There are a lot of guys that don't get carries, that are mis/under utilized, play on bad teams, etc.. If he went out there and busted some huge runs like Bryce Brown has done, he would force the teams hand in the situation but he hasn't done that at all. He doesn't have 1 100 yard game this year, he only has 9 rushes for between 10 and 20 yards and only 1 for 20+ (30 yards). I think a big part of the problem is being selected high in the draft as an heir apparent to LT. If you watched most of the games this year, it's not as if he's been awesome and that the staff is blind. At least in my opinion.

The Eagles O-line is as bad as SD's, if not worse, and they have had a rookie in at QB (see: a worse situation than the one Mathews is in), yet Bryce Brown is able to produce for the Eagles the last two weeks.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

Your reasons are due to SD's play calling.

Also they never gave him a chance this year.

Yeah he was injured in the beginning of the season but why play mind games with your most talented back?

I mean that's the fastest way to make your player lose confidence.

It's hard to perform when you have anxieties.

 

[ChummyShark]

I can't remember a more incompetent offensive coaching job in all the years I have played fantasy

I've been following the Carolina Panthers offense when I traded for Jonathan Stewart. I have to say that their offensive coordinator Chudzinski is pretty bad too. Nor do I have much regard for Ravens coordinator Cam Cameron either.

It's not that easy to say who's worse between Norv Turner, Chud, and Cam Cameron.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

I'm all for utilizing Matthews more and for the firing of Turner but Matthews, if he is truly an elite RB that many think he is, needs to make something out of nothing as well. There are a lot of guys that don't get carries, that are mis/under utilized, play on bad teams, etc.. If he went out there and busted some huge runs like Bryce Brown has done, he would force the teams hand in the situation but he hasn't done that at all. He doesn't have 1 100 yard game this year, he only has 9 rushes for between 10 and 20 yards and only 1 for 20+ (30 yards). I think a big part of the problem is being selected high in the draft as an heir apparent to LT. If you watched most of the games this year, it's not as if he's been awesome and that the staff is blind. At least in my opinion.

The Eagles O-line is as bad as SD's, if not worse, and they have had a rookie in at QB (see: a worse situation than the one Mathews is in), yet Bryce Brown is able to produce for the Eagles the last two weeks.

How many fumbles does Bryce Brown have in the last two games?He wouldn't have had the opportunity fumble the second time in SD.

 

[ChummyShark]

How many fumbles does Bryce Brown have in the last two games?

He wouldn't have had the opportunity fumble the second time in SD.

Bryce Brown wouldn't have a chance under Tom Coughlin and Norv Turner.

But if Michael Vick and Philip Rivers throws interceptions and fumbles the ball, Andy Reid and Norv Turner have no problem with it.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

That is my point, they played mind games with Matthews.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I can't remember a more incompetent offensive coaching job in all the years I have played fantasy

I've been following the Carolina Panthers offense when I traded for Jonathan Stewart. I have to say that their offensive coordinator Chudzinski is pretty bad too.

Chudzinski is from the Norv Turner coaching tree, if that helps explain things.

 

[MAC_32]

11 rush attempts? I guess they were behind the whole game playing catch up. Fire Norv already and use Matthews the right way...

Sigh.Norv needs to go, but his utilization of Mathews is not a problem. I understood why fantasy owners couldn't see through the forest a few weeks ago, but not being able to see it now is inexcusable.

Rushing 8 times with your RB when you have the lead is inexcusable.

Never said it wasn't, but Mathews hasn't given any reason he should be heavily leaned on - ever.

 

[Kiddnets]

11 rush attempts? I guess they were behind the whole game playing catch up. Fire Norv already and use Matthews the right way...

Sigh.Norv needs to go, but his utilization of Mathews is not a problem. I understood why fantasy owners couldn't see through the forest a few weeks ago, but not being able to see it now is inexcusable.

Rushing 8 times with your RB when you have the lead is inexcusable.

Never said it wasn't, but Mathews hasn't given any reason he should be heavily leaned on - ever.

He looked pretty good last year with 1,500 combined yds.

 

[ChummyShark]

Norv Turner's been fired!!



I just wanted to see what it felt like to type that.

 

[FF Ninja]

I'm all for utilizing Matthews more and for the firing of Turner but Matthews, if he is truly an elite RB that many think he is, needs to make something out of nothing as well. There are a lot of guys that don't get carries, that are mis/under utilized, play on bad teams, etc.. If he went out there and busted some huge runs like Bryce Brown has done, he would force the teams hand in the situation but he hasn't done that at all. He doesn't have 1 100 yard game this year, he only has 9 rushes for between 10 and 20 yards and only 1 for 20+ (30 yards). I think a big part of the problem is being selected high in the draft as an heir apparent to LT. If you watched most of the games this year, it's not as if he's been awesome and that the staff is blind. At least in my opinion.

The Eagles O-line is as bad as SD's, if not worse, and they have had a rookie in at QB (see: a worse situation than the one Mathews is in), yet Bryce Brown is able to produce for the Eagles the last two weeks.

Yes, of course! The situations are totally the same, maybe even worse for Brown! If Bryce Brown was a Charger he'd have 2000 yards by now!