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Mathews On Short Leash (1 Viewer)
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Wadsworth
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
If the Chargers are very comfortable splitting the role and giving Brown carries, why wouldn't Mathew's role stay the same and someone like Battle get more carries?
Certainly Brown brings more to the table in terms of pass catching ability and other intangibles that Battle doesn't have -- I just don't see why Brown being out all the sudden means Mathews is on deck for 20+ carries when he's never been used like that all season?
Certainly Brown brings more to the table in terms of pass catching ability and other intangibles that Battle doesn't have -- I just don't see why Brown being out all the sudden means Mathews is on deck for 20+ carries when he's never been used like that all season?
Blick
Footballguy
Brown being out certaintly can't hurt Mathews value, can it?
Mathews has games of 22, 24, 17, 19, and 25 carries so far. so he has been run something like a workhorse back. we are hoping he will get 3rd downs and the 3-4 receptions Brown sucks up every game.
fordhampro
Footballguy
Are people rolling the dice on him vs. Car this week? Only real danger I see is getting down to Newton early but SD d is pretty solid. 25 carries could mean like 100+ yds and a TD with Brown out and with how bad this Carolina run D has been.
I'm most probably starting him over Greg Jennings, Britt and Tate in my flex.
I'm most probably starting him over Greg Jennings, Britt and Tate in my flex.
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Norcalhoya
Footballguy
I'm starting him, but my other options are dwyer and dwill, so...not saying a whole lot.
Nucker101
Footballguy
I know that Norv has to take a big part of the blame here, but it seems like the fumble criticism/benching has really gotten to Mathews, he looks like he's just plodding and trying to "run hard" instead of using his size/speed/agility to find holes and make cuts. Funny thing is that he's basically defying the laws of FF as an RB who gets 20+ touches and is barely worth starting as a flex. No 3rd downs and or GL carries really added to his running struggles and Norv's play-calling is really not a good recipe for success.
I also haven't heard/read anything regarding Brown being out. I'd assume that Battle would probably take over Brown's role anyways.
I also haven't heard/read anything regarding Brown being out. I'd assume that Battle would probably take over Brown's role anyways.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's in over Alex Green and Montell Owens. If MJD comes back, Mathews is going to be flexed in over Donnie Avery.
packersfan
Footballguy
Brown came back and played Sunday as others have said so if he has a serious issue nobody is reporting it.What shocked me about Mathews against Pittsburgh was his lack of involvement in the passing game. He had 14 receptions in the previous four games and was a virtual lock to catch at least three passes but got 0 against the Steelers. He had 25 carries and not a single reception. I'm not sure anyone saw that coming.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I'm set up for what I think may be a difficult decision this week after my first round playoff bye, having to choose from 3 out of the 4:
Ray Rice -- stud? Check. Hip pointer and liable to be subject to arbitrary limited touches than he should by Cam Cameron? Also check.
Knowshon Moreno -- solid RB2/flex, not spectacular.
Darren McFadden -- nicked yet again, horrid offense but a juicy matchup
Ryan Mathews -- habitual 5 points in a flex, but could finally do something against CAR.
At this point, it's Ray, Knowshon and McFadden, but really thinking about the upside Matthews has given the potential downsides of the others.
Ray Rice -- stud? Check. Hip pointer and liable to be subject to arbitrary limited touches than he should by Cam Cameron? Also check.
Knowshon Moreno -- solid RB2/flex, not spectacular.
Darren McFadden -- nicked yet again, horrid offense but a juicy matchup
Ryan Mathews -- habitual 5 points in a flex, but could finally do something against CAR.
At this point, it's Ray, Knowshon and McFadden, but really thinking about the upside Matthews has given the potential downsides of the others.
Norcalhoya
Footballguy
You have to sit Mathews with those three. And Cam Cameron was fired.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Just saw that today. Nice.
rangerforme
Footballguy
dwashington
Footballguy
Any effect on the outcome this week considering Rivera used to be the defensive coach for the Chargers?
Maybe he knows the Chargers schemes/personnel more to gameplan against? Or vice versa?
Maybe he knows the Chargers schemes/personnel more to gameplan against? Or vice versa?
greggorymac
Footballguy
Is Ronnie Brown their current 3rd down back? I think there's a good chance that SD will be playing from behind and needing to pass. Is Ronnie or Ryan in on passing situations/catch-up mode?
via RW:
Ronnie Brown missed Wednesday's practice with a hamstring injury.
It's a new injury for San Diego's primary passing-down back. Brown's Week 15 availability is unclear, though the Chargers did re-sign RB Curtis Brinkley on Wednesday. That could be a sign Brown won't be ready to go against the Panthers. Dec 12 - 6:56 PM
I have a feeling Mathews is about to wriggle his way back into a lot of nervous owners lineups in the semis this week
Ronnie Brown missed Wednesday's practice with a hamstring injury.
It's a new injury for San Diego's primary passing-down back. Brown's Week 15 availability is unclear, though the Chargers did re-sign RB Curtis Brinkley on Wednesday. That could be a sign Brown won't be ready to go against the Panthers. Dec 12 - 6:56 PM
I have a feeling Mathews is about to wriggle his way back into a lot of nervous owners lineups in the semis this week
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He just crossed back into my debate. I thought I was done with him and now it's up in the air again.
I assume he will but I don't think there have been any GL carries since Mathews has been healthy
greggorymac
Footballguy
Per Rotoworld...
Ronnie Brown (hamstring) remained out of Chargers practice Thursday.
Norval Turner's preferred passing-down back is now looking very shaky for Week 15, which is great news for Ryan Mathews in a plus matchup versus the Panthers.
Ronnie Brown (hamstring) remained out of Chargers practice Thursday.
Norval Turner's preferred passing-down back is now looking very shaky for Week 15, which is great news for Ryan Mathews in a plus matchup versus the Panthers.
This is shaping up as a situation where he could trip into RB2 numbers at the least...
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
not sure what to make of him during the off-season, stay away or buy low. Guess I'll have to see what the price is
Nucker101
Footballguy
Even with Brown out and with a good matchup, it's hard to trust him. I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here still in the playoffs with Mathews on their roster, I'm guessing you guys were like me and had strong teams and decided he was worth buying low at some point.
I'm definitely benching him for Moreno and Rice, and likely playing Cobb over him at flex with Nelson out.
Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
I'm definitely benching him for Moreno and Rice, and likely playing Cobb over him at flex with Nelson out.
Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
If Philly HC Reid lands in SD, which has been rumored, I'd think that would be very good for Mathews.
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I drafted both him and McFadden in rounds 1/2. I hit on a lot of late picks and FA pickups to get into the playoffs. Sure would be nice to have a return this week on the early investment in those two........I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here still in the playoffs with Mathews on their roster, I'm guessing you guys were like me and had strong teams and decided he was worth buying low at some point. Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
playing w/ fire thereI drafted both him and McFadden in rounds 1/2.I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here still in the playoffs with Mathews on their roster, I'm guessing you guys were like me and had strong teams and decided he was worth buying low at some point.
Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
I hit on a lot of late picks and FA pickups to get into the playoffs. Sure would be nice to have a return this week on the early investment in those two........
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Time to go big or go home. Gotta roll the dice.playing w/ fire thereI drafted both him and McFadden in rounds 1/2.I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here still in the playoffs with Mathews on their roster, I'm guessing you guys were like me and had strong teams and decided he was worth buying low at some point.
Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
I hit on a lot of late picks and FA pickups to get into the playoffs. Sure would be nice to have a return this week on the early investment in those two........
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Or go big AND go home. The Cowboys have been willing to start Dez and use him primarily as a decoy in the past when he was not 100% healthy. It is a real concern going into Sunday. A) Without another reasonable option at WR and felling like I have to go big to win I will begrudgingly start Dez this week.Time to go big or go home. Gotta roll the dice.playing w/ fire thereI drafted both him and McFadden in rounds 1/2.I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here still in the playoffs with Mathews on their roster, I'm guessing you guys were like me and had strong teams and decided he was worth buying low at some point.
Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
I hit on a lot of late picks and FA pickups to get into the playoffs. Sure would be nice to have a return this week on the early investment in those two........
B) I have other serviceable options at WR and my roster is not worse than my opponent, so I will seriously consider other options.
The floor on Dez this week is very low, it has to factor into your decision.
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I thought I was in the Dez thread. How did I make the playoffs with this bunch of injured and under-performing players?
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Ridgelake
Footballguy
Eh, I've been in the Dez thread too and am rolling with him in another league. Actually, this same league with Matthews and McFadden, I've got Miles. I havent started him in awhile, but this confluence of events has me tempted.'Wadsworth said:Or go big AND go home. The Cowboys have been willing to start Dez and use him primarily as a decoy in the past when he was not 100% healthy. It is a real concern going into Sunday. A) Without another reasonable option at WR and felling like I have to go big to win I will begrudgingly start Dez this week.'Ridgelake said:Time to go big or go home. Gotta roll the dice.'KellysHeroes said:playing w/ fire there'Ridgelake said:I drafted both him and McFadden in rounds 1/2.'Nucker101 said:I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here still in the playoffs with Mathews on their roster, I'm guessing you guys were like me and had strong teams and decided he was worth buying low at some point.
Best of luck to those that have to roll with him again this Sunday in the playoffs.
I hit on a lot of late picks and FA pickups to get into the playoffs. Sure would be nice to have a return this week on the early investment in those two........
B) I have other serviceable options at WR and my roster is not worse than my opponent, so I will seriously consider other options.
The floor on Dez this week is very low, it has to factor into your decision.
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strong
Footballguy
Why no news on Ronnie Brown practicing today? Feel this story is flying way under radar as Brown's absence would likely mean more 3d down and 2-3 more red zone touches for Mathews...
Mathews has been a big disappointment, sure, but there's not too many RBs that you can pencil in for 20+ touches this week against a lower-tier rush defense. And if we can expect Brown's two to three weekly red zone looks to go to Mathews instead, then I'd think Mathews is roughly a top 15 play this week.
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Mathews has been a big disappointment, sure, but there's not too many RBs that you can pencil in for 20+ touches this week against a lower-tier rush defense. And if we can expect Brown's two to three weekly red zone looks to go to Mathews instead, then I'd think Mathews is roughly a top 15 play this week.
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dwashington
Footballguy
There is NO way I dump Mathews and have someone else pick him up and watch him go off, NO FREAKIN' WAY...He'll rot on my bench instead
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
A workmanlike 3 points (before departing with his weekly injury) for owners who started him in their semi-finals today.
Todd Pinkston thinks this guy is soft!
Todd Pinkston thinks this guy is soft!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Uhhh, yeah.Safe to say that the only people who will draft him next year are the people who didn't draft him THIS year.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The real shark move is to make sure you get whomever his backup is... as long as he's somewhat capable.
We'll draft Darren McFadden instead!
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I guess we can't blame Norv for not giving him more touches. He was always one too many carries away from shattering himself again.'Raider Nation said:A workmanlike 3 points (before departing with his weekly injury) for owners who started him in their semi-finals today.
Todd Pinkston thinks this guy is soft!
