Matt Leinart - WOW (1 Viewer)

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Nothing but good things to say about this kid. On that final drive, when Theisman was saying that Leinart was looking cool and collected I disagreed. He looked like someone who was nervous and realized what was at stake. But it didn't matter. He drove down the field against, allegedly, the best defense on the planet.

Very impressed with this kid. Kurt Warner never would've had Zona in that game. Very early on, Leinart made a couple throws with no time to setup in the pocket. That would've been a sack-fumble-TD for the Bears. I know it's only one game, but it was one heck of a game. Can't blame the kid for a too conservative game plan with plenty of time left on the clock.

 

[pizzatyme]

Nothing but good things to say about this kid. On that final drive, when Theisman was saying that Leinart was looking cool and collected I disagreed. He looked like someone who was nervous and realized what was at stake. But it didn't matter. He drove down the field against, allegedly, the best defense on the planet.Very impressed with this kid. Kurt Warner never would've had Zona in that game. Very early on, Leinart made a couple throws with no time to setup in the pocket. That would've been a sack-fumble-TD for the Bears. I know it's only one game, but it was one heck of a game. Can't blame the kid for a too conservative game plan with plenty of time left on the clock.

I couldn't agree more! If they allow him 1 or 2 more passes at the 21yl with 1 minute to go, he has a game on his resume that goes down as one of the best ever for the situation.

 

[Banger]

Nothing but good things to say about this kid. On that final drive, when Theisman was saying that Leinart was looking cool and collected I disagreed. He looked like someone who was nervous and realized what was at stake. But it didn't matter. He drove down the field against, allegedly, the best defense on the planet.Very impressed with this kid. Kurt Warner never would've had Zona in that game. Very early on, Leinart made a couple throws with no time to setup in the pocket. That would've been a sack-fumble-TD for the Bears. I know it's only one game, but it was one heck of a game. Can't blame the kid for a too conservative game plan with plenty of time left on the clock.

One of the keys to the game was a good 3rd down pickup on their 1st drive. A guy was running right at him and he threw it down the middle of the field to a crossing wr. They completed that, ended up capping off the drive with a score and got confidence from there. The kid is gonna be a VERY good QB.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

 

[golfguy]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

 

[Banger]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

I think everyone that passed on him MAYBE with the exception of NO (Bush) will regret letting this kid drop as far as he did. Personally, I'd rather have Leinart than Bush but I've not been a Bush fan and will probably be flogged for making such a ridiculous statement.

 

[metoo]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

I can't knock the Titans for taking Vince. Leinart landed in a great situation in Arizona. I question the Raiders passing on Leinart.

 

[Green94]

Nothing but good things to say about this kid. On that final drive, when Theisman was saying that Leinart was looking cool and collected I disagreed. He looked like someone who was nervous and realized what was at stake. But it didn't matter. He drove down the field against, allegedly, the best defense on the planet.Very impressed with this kid. Kurt Warner never would've had Zona in that game. Very early on, Leinart made a couple throws with no time to setup in the pocket. That would've been a sack-fumble-TD for the Bears. I know it's only one game, but it was one heck of a game. Can't blame the kid for a too conservative game plan with plenty of time left on the clock.

What happened to your sweet avatar?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

What, I casn't comment the I think that Leinart was far and away the best QB coming out last year? Who they play for right now has absolutely zero bearing on my statement.Use the search engine, my comments on Leinart are well documented (unless they were part of the 'pruning process' )as I said he'd be the best player coming out in the draft period. I would have taken him over ANYONE in this draft and I'm not a USC fan.

 

[schlesinj]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

I can't knock the Titans for taking Vince. Leinart landed in a great situation in Arizona. I question the Raiders passing on Leinart.

I agree with that.

 

[Slinger]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

To be fair, Travis Henry won that game.

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

To be fair, the stink ### pathetic Redskins lost that game.

fixed

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

What, I casn't comment the I think that Leinart was far and away the best QB coming out last year? Who they play for right now has absolutely zero bearing on my statement.Use the search engine, my comments on Leinart are well documented (unless they were part of the 'pruning process' )as I said he'd be the best player coming out in the draft period. I would have taken him over ANYONE in this draft and I'm not a USC fan.

I think that alot of people thought that. Out of about 20 draft guides and online sites last year that I tracked, only Pro Football Weekly had Vince over Matt. I certainly cursed out EBF when he took Leinart right before me in Z30, forcing me to take Vince. Certainly no one thought that Vince would be as good in his rookie year as Matt.

 

[Yah_Shoor_Yoobetchya]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

I can't knock the Titans for taking Vince. Leinart landed in a great situation in Arizona. I question the Raiders passing on Leinart.

Gee, I wonder how many different ways this phase can be used.

 

[icehouse]

Matt played well last night. I think his next couple of weeks could be solid with that pancake schedule of his.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Matt played well last night. I think his next couple of weeks could be solid with that pancake schedule of his.

He was set up to enter the bye week with a .500 record.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Nothing but good things to say about this kid. On that final drive, when Theisman was saying that Leinart was looking cool and collected I disagreed. He looked like someone who was nervous and realized what was at stake. But it didn't matter. He drove down the field against, allegedly, the best defense on the planet.Very impressed with this kid. Kurt Warner never would've had Zona in that game. Very early on, Leinart made a couple throws with no time to setup in the pocket. That would've been a sack-fumble-TD for the Bears. I know it's only one game, but it was one heck of a game. Can't blame the kid for a too conservative game plan with plenty of time left on the clock.

Leinart definitely has the look of a guy who is going to be a great NFL QB.

 

[baronson]

anyone else think this is just a **wee** bit premature??? it's 2 games, people. saying things like "i thought he was the best guy in the draft" and such is a pretty easy comment to make after he looks good this week.

don't get me wrong, i have him in a dynasty league and i love having him, but lets just relax a little here. it's WAAAAY too early to say leinert is/was the best QB in the draft class when we haven't seen what Cutler can do, and nor have we seen what vince can really do yet.

hell, in 1999 people were probably saying "wow, the Browns really made the right call with Tim Couch... he looks way better than McNabb..."

Leinert has looked good, def better than advertised. but no one cares who Jimmy Joe from Nashville thought was a better QB in the draft. fact is, even Gradkowski should be mentioned as among the best rookie QBs this season, and he hasn't been.

ok, rant over.

 

[Angry Beavers]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

I can't knock the Titans for taking Vince. Leinart landed in a great situation in Arizona. I question the Raiders passing on Leinart.

Gee, I wonder how many different ways this phase can be used.

Why, the raiders get to take Brady Quinn or any other highly touted QB this coming spring?

 

[LHUCKS]

 

[Bevo]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

To be fair, Travis Henry won that game.

To be fair the Titans won that game. But QBs get a disproportionate amount of the blame when the team loses so they should get a disproportionate amount of the credit when they win.

 

[Gargoylez]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Both have great potential in completely different ways. Leinart I think will be more of a field general and Young will be the big play guy making highlight reels week in week out.In 3 years... I think we will have enough to say... Titans BLEW that pick or it was a sound pick or even a Great pick. But until then, this is all too new and not enough info to correctly say anything.

 

[Banger]

anyone else think this is just a **wee** bit premature??? it's 2 games, people. saying things like "i thought he was the best guy in the draft" and such is a pretty easy comment to make after he looks good this week.don't get me wrong, i have him in a dynasty league and i love having him, but lets just relax a little here. it's WAAAAY too early to say leinert is/was the best QB in the draft class when we haven't seen what Cutler can do, and nor have we seen what vince can really do yet.hell, in 1999 people were probably saying "wow, the Browns really made the right call with Tim Couch... he looks way better than McNabb..." Leinert has looked good, def better than advertised. but no one cares who Jimmy Joe from Nashville thought was a better QB in the draft. fact is, even Gradkowski should be mentioned as among the best rookie QBs this season, and he hasn't been.ok, rant over.

I agree to an extent that it's early since it's only been two games but to me it's more the fact that he's more than held his own in his two starts one of which was against the top defense in the league. It's not as if he threw a couple bombs and you could chalk his success to a few big plays. He had methodical drives, faced the pass rush, picked up 1st downs on 3rd down in obvious passing situations. Young needs to go a long way to look decent and Leinart is already there and will only get better. There isn't a much bigger stage than Leinart faced last night and he came through it very well IMO. Even using the superior weapon theory isn't that applicable since Fitz missed this game and part of his last start. His poise and accuracy in the face of a big time pass rush and blitzes was truly impressive and he will get better. Agree with Gradkowski, I'd put him ahead of Young so far but he has more limitations in his game.

 

[BoulderBob]

It may be early, well very early, but with Fitz and Boldin in tow, Leinart is going to have the chance to be a HOF QB, if his team can start picking up the slack, of course. The guy was amazing last night.

 

[Banger]

It may be early, well very early, but with Fitz and Boldin in tow, Leinart is going to have the chance to be a HOF QB, if his team can start picking up the slack, of course. The guy was amazing last night.

now this is definitely early....

 

[BoulderBob]

It may be early, well very early, but with Fitz and Boldin in tow, Leinart is going to have the chance to be a HOF QB, if his team can start picking up the slack, of course. The guy was amazing last night.

now this is definitely early....

True...but Leinart is obviously special, rookie QB's simply don't do what he did last night...the early bird gets the worm...

 

[baronson]

It may be early, well very early, but with Fitz and Boldin in tow, Leinart is going to have the chance to be a HOF QB, if his team can start picking up the slack, of course. The guy was amazing last night.

now this is definitely early....

True...but Leinart is obviously special, rookie QB's simply don't do what he did last night...the early bird gets the worm...

what, lose? rookie QBs find ways to lose all the time.now that is not to pin the loss on Leinert... i hardly think he deserves much if any of the blame... but i seem to remember a guy named Roethlisberger coming in and putting on quite a different show early on. hell, even Gradkowski looks like a HOFer by this definition.

 

[Slinger]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

To be fair, Travis Henry won that game.

To be fair the Titans won that game. But QBs get a disproportionate amount of the blame when the team loses so they should get a disproportionate amount of the credit when they win.

The Titans offense picked up because of their RB play.The Cardinals offense picked up because of their QB play.In Week 6, Leinart > Young.

 

[belyeapower]

It may be early, well very early, but with Fitz and Boldin in tow, Leinart is going to have the chance to be a HOF QB, if his team can start picking up the slack, of course. The guy was amazing last night.

early?yeah - you can say that again

 

[BoulderBob]

It may be early, well very early, but with Fitz and Boldin in tow, Leinart is going to have the chance to be a HOF QB, if his team can start picking up the slack, of course. The guy was amazing last night.

early?yeah - you can say that again

Check back in 15, years... I see a stock that is going to be huge, and I'm buying

 

[belyeapower]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

wait a minute.. vince younge beat a pathetic redskin team - and in fact if travis henry doesnt dominate, the titans dont win.vince young cant read NFL defenses - any good team/coach w/ a smart D scheme is going to eat him aliveLeinart is NFL ready - his ceiling talent wise isnt as astronomical as athletes like young's are - but the guy is smart and accurate thats all i want from my QB - someone that can keep mistakes to a minimum and make accurate throwsis this sexy for fantasy purposes? nopebut hey vince young could be the next michael vick...he might rush for 1000 yds one yearsad thing is he might only throw for 1000 yds also

 

[belyeapower]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

vince couldnt read an nfl defense if you got him hooked on phonics

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Last I checked, Vince Young already won a game this season.

To be fair, Travis Henry won that game.

Do you think it's a coincidence that Texas is suddenly seeing a dropoff in their running game while Tennessee has experienced a sharp upswing running the ball since Young has taken the helm?Why does every post that praises Young or Leinart have to turn into knocking down one to elevate the other? They've both looked good at times and like rookies at times. Imagine that...rookies looking like rookies. They'll both be great in the long run, imho.I think both of these teams are and will be very happy with their selections, and I think each was the best selection for the given situation.

 

[belyeapower]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

What, I casn't comment the I think that Leinart was far and away the best QB coming out last year?

im sorry - what did you say?!

 

[belyeapower]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

Both have great potential in completely different ways. Leinart I think will be more of a field general and Young will be the big play guy making highlight reels week in week out.In 3 years... I think we will have enough to say... Titans BLEW that pick or it was a sound pick or even a Great pick. But until then, this is all too new and not enough info to correctly say anything.

Vince Young will be a dominating QB...in a video game.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Leinart looked pretty good last night -- some of the hype in this thread and elsewhere might be attributed to the fact we thought he was a dead man against the Bears and was not.

As an aside, Grossman looked awful for most of the evening.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

vince young cant read NFL defenses - any good team/coach w/ a smart D scheme is going to eat him alive

This is the same wisdom we all heard ad nauseum pre-Rose Bowl. Pete Carroll, with a month to prepare, and his NFL defensive scheming, will have Young's head spinning.Funny thing was it didn't turn out that way. He was baited all night long and never fell for the disguised coverages. If you've seen him play this year you know he's making some good reads and good throws, just as Leinart is. They're both looking very good for rookies.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

vince couldnt read an nfl defense if you got him hooked on phonics

Your attempt at being witty is just... well at least you tried, right?

 

[belyeapower]

Young needs to go a long way to look decent and Leinart is already there and will only get better. .

why do you say that? leinart was never touted as not "NFL ready" - in fact that was his strongest point.

The biggest knock on Leinart is that he failed to really get better from his junior year to his senior year at USC.

I think leinart is a what you see is whay you get kinda QB - smart, and accurate. his ceiling isnt sueper high and thats why he wasnt drafted as high as many thought he should be.

Ultimately i think he'l be a winning QB in the NFL. definitley a better QB than vince

but everyone is getting too excited about Leinart..

i think denny Green mght say it best.. ' IF you want to Crown em, go ahead and Crown his ###!'

 

[belyeapower]

vince young cant read NFL defenses - any good team/coach w/ a smart D scheme is going to eat him alive

This is the same wisdom we all heard ad nauseum pre-Rose Bowl. Pete Carroll, with a month to prepare, and his NFL defensive scheming, will have Young's head spinning.Funny thing was it didn't turn out that way. He was baited all night long and never fell for the disguised coverages. If you've seen him play this year you know he's making some good reads and good throws, just as Leinart is. They're both looking very good for rookies.

i fyou think pete carrol's Defense - which everyone knew couldnt touch the talent he had the year before can even slightly compare to a true NFL D - you are really off basec'mon the leap to the NFL is so much harder to makeand Vince won that game w/ his legs not his armyou gotta beat people w/ your arm in the NFL to winunless you are a believer in the michael vick style of QB'ing which will get you a sweet Nike contract at least..

 

[Bad_Mo]

How many Fantasy teams did Leinart screw up with his performance last night?

Screwed up in a good way, that is. People have to seriously consider starting this kid the rest of the way based on his performance against KC and, arguably, the best defense in the NFL.

I can only hope for a Leinart to Boldin connection for many weeks to come.

 

[belyeapower]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time

now i am not a leinart fan at all, but he did play very well last night. but to make this comment is not fair. leinart is handing off to james, throwing to fitz,boldin and johnson. who does vince have the great drew bennet. yeah that is a fair comparison in the moment.

vince couldnt read an nfl defense if you got him hooked on phonics

Your attempt at being witty is just... well at least you tried, right?

OK buddyyou take vince youngride his single digit wonderlic score all the way to Madden 09

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Some pretty weak attempts at in here.

 

[belyeapower]

Some pretty weak attempts at in here.

I'm just glad everyone followed the 'NO HYPE ZONE' tag

 

[baronson]

ride his single digit wonderlic score all the way to Madden 09

the wonderlic is hardly an iron-clad indicator of QB success. hang your hat on something that holds more weight. like your XBox console...

 

[red]

How many Fantasy teams did Leinart screw up with his performance last night?Screwed up in a good way, that is. People have to seriously consider starting this kid the rest of the way based on his performance against KC and, arguably, the best defense in the NFL.I can only hope for a Leinart to Boldin connection for many weeks to come.

@ OAK@ GBBYEDALDET@ MIN@ STLSEADEN@ SFSDhe's definitely worth a start (depending who your other QB is) in 5 games; and, depending on what defense shows up for SEA and STL, possibly 7 if these latter two team continue to force and allow shoot outs in order to win. he could be huge in week 16 (many FF superbowls) facing the worst defense in the NFL.

 

[belyeapower]

ride his single digit wonderlic score all the way to Madden 09

the wonderlic is hardly an iron-clad indicator of QB success. hang your hat on something that holds more weight. like your XBox console...

name a QB that came close to vince's score that has had success in the nflwonderlic doesnt = successbut i really dont want my qb to be a guy that slept through classes and basically blew off the wonderlicit shows that his character is pretty weak - maybe all the flack he recieved for blowing it off woke him up and motivated him to try harderbut c'mon - look at the successful winning qb's in the nfl - they are students of the game and tend not to be the 'super athlete'vince young has a ton of talent - but he has a LONG way to go to learn the art of QB'ing - maybe in 3 or 4 years he'll blossomim sure watching the progress of michael vick's career is def scaring me off a bit.

 

[Smeagol]

Matt Leinart reminds me very much of Tom Brady (QB play wise). Both make smart reads, accurate throws and have a decent arm. Seeing much of Leinart at USC and now in Arizona, its obvious this kid plays cool under pressure, very much like Brady. Now Leinart has better weapons around him than Brady, so I fully expect him to put up 4000 yards, 25+ TD in a few years.

With time, I can see the Cardinals being a playoff contender with Leinart at helm.

 

[corpcow]

I still chuckle when I think Vince Young was taken before him. The Titans will regret that for a loooonnnngggg time.

I can't knock the Titans for taking Vince. Leinart landed in a great situation in Arizona. I question the Raiders passing on Leinart.