Maurice Jones-Drew (1 Viewer)

[Wilbur Wood]

MJD has been a bust so far this year, certainly underperforming his ~ 2nd round draft status. TD totals from last year were not repeatable given his usage profile.

However, with RBs now injured and busted for smoking dope, etc., I am curious as to what any "buyers" of MJD have paid or what "sellers" have received.

I certainly would not advise buying Drew at anything approaching his pre-season price tag. However, I think that now is the time to target someone like Drew if you have run into some RB misfortune (S-Jax, Henry) and can slot him in as a RB#3 or maybe a Flex.

He is healthy and plays on a competitive team with a decent defense. If you've got WR depth I would recommend seeing if you can get MJD for a 2nd tier WR

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If you go back and watch the game tape, you might be surprised how close MJD is to having a couple of TDs, which would make his lack of long plays and yardage much less alarming. I think he is one of the most undervalued RBs right now - Im shocked at some of the MJD trades I'm hearing about. He'll still have 8-12 TDs by the end of the year the way Garrard and the defense are playing.

 

[MechEng]

Saw two games and he looked ok. Twice he was within 2 yards of a touchdown. Hopefully he turns it around and starts to find the endzone.

 

[MDSkinner]

If you go back and watch the game tape, you might be surprised how close MJD is to having a couple of TDs, which would make his lack of long plays and yardage much less alarming. I think he is one of the most undervalued RBs right now - Im shocked at some of the MJD trades I'm hearing about. He'll still have 8-12 TDs by the end of the year the way Garrard and the defense are playing.

You might be completely right and I may just be one of the guys that is undervaluing MJD right now, but the fact is he is averaging 1 fewer YPC than Taylor and has a couple of fumbles (Taylor does not). In terms of touches they are about 50/50 since Taylor has 39 rushes and 1 catch where MJD has 33 and 6, but at 3 YPC and 2 catches a game it just doesn't seem worth making much of a play for MJD. I think if I owned him and had drafted him early in the second round I would be hanging on to him in hopes of what you say here, but I would not put him in my lineup right away.

 

[Sabertooth]

If you go back and watch the game tape, you might be surprised how close MJD is to having a couple of TDs, which would make his lack of long plays and yardage much less alarming. I think he is one of the most undervalued RBs right now - Im shocked at some of the MJD trades I'm hearing about. He'll still have 8-12 TDs by the end of the year the way Garrard and the defense are playing.

You might be completely right and I may just be one of the guys that is undervaluing MJD right now, but the fact is he is averaging 1 fewer YPC than Taylor and has a couple of fumbles (Taylor does not). In terms of touches they are about 50/50 since Taylor has 39 rushes and 1 catch where MJD has 33 and 6, but at 3 YPC and 2 catches a game it just doesn't seem worth making much of a play for MJD. I think if I owned him and had drafted him early in the second round I would be hanging on to him in hopes of what you say here, but I would not put him in my lineup right away.

You sound like somebody looking at game logs instead of watching the games.

 

[Joe T]

his value = 12 wheat pennies

 

[jbz]

I am trying to buy MJD for these very reasons. Most MJD owners are done with him, but some are holding out hope that the bye week has fixed things. If he doesn't perform this week, you probably can get him for pennies.

 

[djjosee]

I was offered MJD for Caddy last Saturday. I turned it down as I thought Caddy have more value in the short term. If short term is considered 1 quarter, I was right.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I am trying to buy MJD for these very reasons. Most MJD owners are done with him, but some are holding out hope that the bye week has fixed things. If he doesn't perform this week, you probably can get him for pennies.

There's nothing that has to be fixed. He still has the same balance, burst, and intensity. The offense has just not been dominating in the run game like they were last year, and he hasnt quite broken free for his signature plays yet. Teams are also a little more focused on stopping him. Still, this is an adjustment period all young talents at RB go through. Bush is going it through it too. He has 15 red zone touches, 5 inside the 5. Ive seen MJD tackled inside the 5 as much as any RB in the league. John Abraham made one of the best DE coverage plays Ive ever seen to break up a sure TD on a 4th and 6 wheel route from the 34 that would have made MJDs fantasy week in week 2. Ill break down more close calls if you want. His fumble vs. Denver was more due to his balance and perservance than poor ball security.He's basically MBIII in a less potent offense. The TDs will come. The worst case scenario is a switch to Greg Jones at the GL, but MJD was extremely efficient there last year, and Jones scored as the fullback while MJD was the tailback on his TD this year. Even if Greg Jones gets put in, MJD will still score 3-5 TDs on passes/draws inside the 20 and a long play or two.BUY LOW!

 

[Steeler07]

A six pack of light beer.

 

[jaana1us]

do you think i could get him for graham or ward or both?

 

[Fodasme69]

do you think i could get him for graham or ward or both?

not from me Not even close!

 

[LHUCKS]

Agree with the buy low sentiments.

 

[Bears_Man2]

What would you realistically say buying low is in a dynasty league?

For What RB(s)?

Fow What WR(s)?

 

[Shermanator]

I was offered MJD for Colston straight up. I am strongly considering it.

 

[faux_bear]

The problem with MJD is that his perceived value tends to be much lower than his actual value, making it difficult to get adequate compensation for him in a trade.

 

[BigJim®]

Y'all have me thinking... at the risk of turning this into an AC thread, I've been sitting on SJax for 2 weeks now and I'm wondering if his torn groin, not to mention his OL being in a shambles, might justify trading him off in my redraft for MJD and a WR upgrade [Walker/Fitz fizzling so far]. SJax for MJD/B.Edwards? S.Young straight up? What's the right value here?

 

[Bears_Man2]

Y'all have me thinking... at the risk of turning this into an AC thread, I've been sitting on SJax for 2 weeks now and I'm wondering if his torn groin, not to mention his OL being in a shambles, might justify trading him off in my redraft for MJD and a WR upgrade [Walker/Fitz fizzling so far]. SJax for MJD/B.Edwards? S.Young straight up? What's the right value here?

I doubt many will upgrade you much, if at all, in a redraft with SJax. I think eventually you have to come to the realization that he's not going to live up to his Top 3 value. if you're .500 or above currently, you might just keep him.MJD has suffered (while unlikely, still possible he lives up to his Round 2 value), but there's no telling when Jackson comes back....and how he fares. I highly doubt a Braylon owner would include him.

 

[MDSkinner]

If you go back and watch the game tape, you might be surprised how close MJD is to having a couple of TDs, which would make his lack of long plays and yardage much less alarming. I think he is one of the most undervalued RBs right now - Im shocked at some of the MJD trades I'm hearing about. He'll still have 8-12 TDs by the end of the year the way Garrard and the defense are playing.

You might be completely right and I may just be one of the guys that is undervaluing MJD right now, but the fact is he is averaging 1 fewer YPC than Taylor and has a couple of fumbles (Taylor does not). In terms of touches they are about 50/50 since Taylor has 39 rushes and 1 catch where MJD has 33 and 6, but at 3 YPC and 2 catches a game it just doesn't seem worth making much of a play for MJD. I think if I owned him and had drafted him early in the second round I would be hanging on to him in hopes of what you say here, but I would not put him in my lineup right away.

You sound like somebody looking at game logs instead of watching the games.

You would be 100% correct about that. I have not watched a single Jags game this year in its entirety. And clearly stats can lie. If you guys are right on this one, I may be missing a massive opportunity. But the stats scare me.

 

[MOAT]

You would be 100% correct about that. I have not watched a single Jags game this year in its entirety. And clearly stats can lie. If you guys are right on this one, I may be missing a massive opportunity. But the stats scare me.

Check the red zone stats. MJD is getting a lot of RZ carries. I have him in a TD heavy league and would rather have him than a RB that will run for 100 with no chance at TDs. It is a gamble since he isn't getting in but worth the spot in my opinion.

 

[BigJim®]

How do people rate MJD vs. Kevin Jones in redraft? I've been thinking about targetting both. Both are involved in RBBC, MJD has a slightly better primary back in his way, while KJ has the possibility of limited play during healing as his obstical.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

How do people rate MJD vs. Kevin Jones in redraft? I've been thinking about targetting both. Both are involved in RBBC, MJD has a slightly better primary back in his way, while KJ has the possibility of limited play during healing as his obstical.

jones has more upside. I would probably opt for Jones, but they are the two best buy low RBs right now, with Thomas Jones also in the mix. KJ will be hard to get in trades because his owner probably believed in him and still knows that they havent harvested the best value from him. MJD and Thomas JOnes are better targets because their owners have been suffering with them. MJD is perfect bc he is also is past his bye.

 

[MDSkinner]

You would be 100% correct about that. I have not watched a single Jags game this year in its entirety. And clearly stats can lie. If you guys are right on this one, I may be missing a massive opportunity. But the stats scare me.

Check the red zone stats. MJD is getting a lot of RZ carries. I have him in a TD heavy league and would rather have him than a RB that will run for 100 with no chance at TDs. It is a gamble since he isn't getting in but worth the spot in my opinion.

Actually the red zone is part of my concern, not that he is not getting the carries, because he clearly is (outnumbers Fred 3 to 1 on red zone carries) but the fact that he has done nothing with them. Earlier in the thread it is mentioned that he missed a couple of TD's by by 2 yards....well given his current ypc when given the ball inside the 10 yard line (he has 7 carries) it would take him 2 more carries just to get those 2 yards. The 1 YPC when given the ball inside the 10 would not worry me in the least if he had a single TD to his credit.

 

[Sabertooth]

If you go back and watch the game tape, you might be surprised how close MJD is to having a couple of TDs, which would make his lack of long plays and yardage much less alarming. I think he is one of the most undervalued RBs right now - Im shocked at some of the MJD trades I'm hearing about. He'll still have 8-12 TDs by the end of the year the way Garrard and the defense are playing.

You might be completely right and I may just be one of the guys that is undervaluing MJD right now, but the fact is he is averaging 1 fewer YPC than Taylor and has a couple of fumbles (Taylor does not). In terms of touches they are about 50/50 since Taylor has 39 rushes and 1 catch where MJD has 33 and 6, but at 3 YPC and 2 catches a game it just doesn't seem worth making much of a play for MJD. I think if I owned him and had drafted him early in the second round I would be hanging on to him in hopes of what you say here, but I would not put him in my lineup right away.

You sound like somebody looking at game logs instead of watching the games.

You would be 100% correct about that. I have not watched a single Jags game this year in its entirety. And clearly stats can lie. If you guys are right on this one, I may be missing a massive opportunity. But the stats scare me.

I agree. I haven't watched the Jags at all either. I was just trying to state that others that are watching the games can tell you things that might not show up in the logs.

 

[gheemony]

I am trying to buy MJD for these very reasons. Most MJD owners are done with him, but some are holding out hope that the bye week has fixed things. If he doesn't perform this week, you probably can get him for pennies.

There's nothing that has to be fixed. He still has the same balance, burst, and intensity. The offense has just not been dominating in the run game like they were last year, and he hasnt quite broken free for his signature plays yet. Teams are also a little more focused on stopping him. Still, this is an adjustment period all young talents at RB go through. Bush is going it through it too. He has 15 red zone touches, 5 inside the 5. Ive seen MJD tackled inside the 5 as much as any RB in the league. John Abraham made one of the best DE coverage plays Ive ever seen to break up a sure TD on a 4th and 6 wheel route from the 34 that would have made MJDs fantasy week in week 2. Ill break down more close calls if you want. His fumble vs. Denver was more due to his balance and perservance than poor ball security.He's basically MBIII in a less potent offense. The TDs will come. The worst case scenario is a switch to Greg Jones at the GL, but MJD was extremely efficient there last year, and Jones scored as the fullback while MJD was the tailback on his TD this year. Even if Greg Jones gets put in, MJD will still score 3-5 TDs on passes/draws inside the 20 and a long play or two.BUY LOW!

Bloom, thanks! I don't have time to watch the games and appreciate your insight. I'm holding steady with MJD in one league, bought him low in another, and am going to start him this week based on your Second Look Projections. Really appreciate your insight.P.S. Not to hijack, but appreciate the hard work you and Cecil put into covering the Travis Henry story.

 

[Sabertooth]

I am seriously considering sending Ahman Green to an owner for MJD.

 

[rascal]

How do people rate MJD vs. Kevin Jones in redraft? I've been thinking about targetting both. Both are involved in RBBC, MJD has a slightly better primary back in his way, while KJ has the possibility of limited play during healing as his obstical.

jones has more upside. I would probably opt for Jones, but they are the two best buy low RBs right now, with Thomas Jones also in the mix. KJ will be hard to get in trades because his owner probably believed in him and still knows that they havent harvested the best value from him. MJD and Thomas JOnes are better targets because their owners have been suffering with them. MJD is perfect bc he is also is past his bye.

What is MJD worth?

 

[Judge Smails]

You would be 100% correct about that. I have not watched a single Jags game this year in its entirety. And clearly stats can lie. If you guys are right on this one, I may be missing a massive opportunity. But the stats scare me.

Check the red zone stats. MJD is getting a lot of RZ carries. I have him in a TD heavy league and would rather have him than a RB that will run for 100 with no chance at TDs. It is a gamble since he isn't getting in but worth the spot in my opinion.

Actually the red zone is part of my concern, not that he is not getting the carries, because he clearly is (outnumbers Fred 3 to 1 on red zone carries) but the fact that he has done nothing with them. Earlier in the thread it is mentioned that he missed a couple of TD's by by 2 yards....well given his current ypc when given the ball inside the 10 yard line (he has 7 carries) it would take him 2 more carries just to get those 2 yards. The 1 YPC when given the ball inside the 10 would not worry me in the least if he had a single TD to his credit.

This should not concern you at all. A guy is either good in the red zone or he isn't. MJD proved last year that he is exceptional in short yardage situations. The line has not performed to date. He's been met at the line of scrimmage. The question is the offensive line, not MJD. If they improve even a little bit (and their history as a running team makes this a very real possibility), then you will seen MJD score in short yardage, start breaking into the secondary on other plays, etc. If a guy can't get by the line of scrimmage because there are no holes, it doesn't matter how good he is. Taylor and Jones would have the same issue.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Just dealt Fitzgerald to get MJD in a dynasty league FWIW. (I'm a F.Taylor owner)

 

[Sack-Religious]

I'm currently in talks with the MJD owner in my 22 man dynasty league to acquire MJD.

I've started the discussion with Brandon Jacobs and possibly one of my "young" WR's (Jacoby or James Jones). I'm loaded at WR with Marvin Harrison, Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, Santonio Holmes, Brandon Marshall, Chris Chambers, and the Jones' so I'm really hoping a package of Jacobs and one of the Jones' works. I'm also debating offering Jacobs and my rookie 2nd rounder for MJD if he doesn't like one of the Jones'. Hopefully that's enough. I'm also hoping MJD struggles against the resurgent KC rush D and that Jacobs performs admirably this weekend.

 

[swirvenirvin]

2 weeks ago I traded Bobby Engram and MJD

for

Colsten and Ju Jones

 

[Franchise Playa]

So how is this for buying low....

I got MJD for Patrick Crayton, Shaun Mcdonald and a 3rd round pick.

 

[sho nuff]

Benson or MJD?

Looking at the MJD owner...I have Benson who I hate. He also is the Addai owner and I have Keith. So there is a possible package deal where I would give Benson, Keith and Curry for MJD and Cotchery

Any thoughts?

 

[howo5]

Just sent Bulger for him. Not sure why the other owner accepted it.