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[Maroney=Speed]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.

Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.

By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.

If anyone has them please post.

Thanks.

I don't make the news I just report it.

 

[BigJim®]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

Stewart's pro day results: 1 surgery

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

Stewart's pro day results: 1 surgery

Yep, thanks.

 

[obxlegends]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

Stewart's pro day results: 1 surgery

Leader in the clubhouse for funniest line of the day.

 

[EBF]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

 

[aposulli]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

Stewart's pro day results: 1 surgery

Yep, thanks.

But seriously. He didn't do anything on Oregon's Pro day.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

So do you get to pick and choose what you believe from Maylock?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

So do you get to pick and choose what you believe from Maylock?

?.What about Stewart needing Turf Toe surgery?I said Stewart has issues, maybe Mayock is starting to listen to Me. I'll add this again.Dallas is working to move up too 1.06 with the Jets.Even the Dallas guy, isn't posting this.Time will tell. I don't make the news I just report it.

 

[Futeki]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.

How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

It was a new guy. The following is from another thread.

I'm having trouble buying either explanation. Neither explains the sudden and significant decrease from last year to this year. How do you account for that?

Too small a sample size. You can't tell if last year wasn't the anomaly.

It wasn't. Here are the averages of the top 10 jumps for WR's for the last 5 years:2008 - 36.15

2007 - 38.90

2006 - 38.35

2005 - 38.65

2004 - 38.90

This year was definitely reduced. RB's were similar with this year producing an average of more than 2 inches lower than the averages of the previous 4 years. Something was different this year.

They had a video up on NFL.com. A Chiefs low level wannabe scout type was running the vertical this year. He was fairly adamant about making the guys really stretch on the initial measurement. Also, he was making doubly sure nobody took a stutter step, no matter how small, before the jump. Basically, it sounds like this year they were making players do it the right way. They could go back to cheating the test at their pro days.

 

[brock]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

Stewart's pro day results: 1 surgery

Yep, thanks.

maybe someday you'll be as good as bigjim with the reporting accuracy.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Maylock said that the way they measured the vertical jumps may have been wrong.Really? That would explain McFadden's under 38 Vertical to me.By the way Stewart's Pro Day was March 13th, waiting to see what happen.If anyone has them please post.Thanks.I don't make the news I just report it.

Stewart's pro day results: 1 surgery

Yep, thanks.

maybe someday you'll be as good as bigjim with the reporting accuracy.

It was a setup to have someone post that Stewart was or did have surgery.I posted weeks ago, theres a problem with Stewart.But of course no one beleived me than, and now they have a short memory.Thats ok, I'll keep reminding them.

 

[KoolKat]

"I don't make the news, I just unnecessarily contrive it to fit my stance."

 

[cstu]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.

How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

It was a new guy. The following is from another thread.

I'm having trouble buying either explanation. Neither explains the sudden and significant decrease from last year to this year. How do you account for that?

Too small a sample size. You can't tell if last year wasn't the anomaly.

It wasn't. Here are the averages of the top 10 jumps for WR's for the last 5 years:2008 - 36.15

2007 - 38.90

2006 - 38.35

2005 - 38.65

2004 - 38.90

This year was definitely reduced. RB's were similar with this year producing an average of more than 2 inches lower than the averages of the previous 4 years. Something was different this year.

They had a video up on NFL.com. A Chiefs low level wannabe scout type was running the vertical this year. He was fairly adamant about making the guys really stretch on the initial measurement. Also, he was making doubly sure nobody took a stutter step, no matter how small, before the jump. Basically, it sounds like this year they were making players do it the right way. They could go back to cheating the test at their pro days.

I forget who it was, but there was a player on ESPN who talked about how guys learn to 'cheat' the vertical by pulling their shoulder back for the initial measurement. I'd venture to guess that these measurements were more accurate and that past measurements were exaggerated.

 

[redman]

This just means that we can judge the relative measurements between players in this draft class, and not compare them to prior years.

 

[switz]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

 

[cstu]

This just means that we can judge the relative measurements between players in this draft class, and not compare them to prior years.

EBF = :headexplode:

 

[ImTheScientist]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

there is a lot he doesn't realize

 

[Maroney=Speed]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

 

[gianmarco]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

 

[Maroney=Speed]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

True, good point.I'll own up to it, I was the guy who blow all the vertical measurements.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not necessarily. But I'm thinking it would severely limit his bench press numbers.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not necessarily. But I'm thinking it would severely limit his bench press numbers.

He still would be a better player than Stewart, better hands.

 

[redman]

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not necessarily. But I'm thinking it would severely limit his bench press numbers.

There's a niche for everyone in football.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.

How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?

So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not that I'm always right.But I do have all the answers.

Standing with your side next to a wall, reach up & touch as high as you can on the wall. (do not go onto your toes though)

Mark the spot the top of your hand reached (either with chalk, tape, or easiest way...saliva)

Standing in the same spot, now jump up as high as you can and once again with your hand make a second marking at the top of your jump.

Measure the distance between the two markings & this is your vertical leap.

Link: http://vertcoach.com/measure-vertical-leap.html

My professor once told me ('Son, they will first laugh at you,then they will start to listen, then thats when its up to you to be the better person

and continue to teach the less gifted').

So I'm use to this, but I have all the answers.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Is anyone there?

 

[gianmarco]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.

How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?

So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not that I'm always right.But I do have all the answers.

Standing with your side next to a wall, reach up & touch as high as you can on the wall. (do not go onto your toes though)

Mark the spot the top of your hand reached (either with chalk, tape, or easiest way...saliva)

Standing in the same spot, now jump up as high as you can and once again with your hand make a second marking at the top of your jump.

Measure the distance between the two markings & this is your vertical leap.

Link: http://vertcoach.com/measure-vertical-leap.html

My professor once told me ('Son, they will first laugh at you,then they will start to listen, then thats when its up to you to be the better person

and continue to teach the less gifted').

So I'm use to this, but I have all the answers.

Hopefully you understand with what you just explained that arm length does NOT affect vertical at all.

 

[switz]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

Yes I read your post. Yes I know how they measure for vertical. No, arm length means nothing. I don't think you understand how it works.Let me try to spell it out....A guy stands with one arm outstretched upward, they measure the height...He jumps, hits some paddles and they measure the height of the highest.You see, his arm length is meaningless, because it doesn't change at all between starting and finishing the jump.If a guy has 36" arms, hist starting height may be higher than someone with 31" arms... but if their finishing heights are both 36" from their starting heights, they both jumped 36"...I'm pretty sure you don't understand how that works. I've been pretty easy going with your schtick so far, but your argument about vertical leaps is ridiculous.

 

[sheerterror]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.

How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?

So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not that I'm always right.But I do have all the answers.

Standing with your side next to a wall, reach up & touch as high as you can on the wall. (do not go onto your toes though)

Mark the spot the top of your hand reached (either with chalk, tape, or easiest way...saliva)

Standing in the same spot, now jump up as high as you can and once again with your hand make a second marking at the top of your jump.

Measure the distance between the two markings & this is your vertical leap.

Link: http://vertcoach.com/measure-vertical-leap.html

My professor once told me ('Son, they will first laugh at you,then they will start to listen, then thats when its up to you to be the better person

and continue to teach the less gifted').

So I'm use to this, but I have all the answers.

Dude, the net difference between your standing reach and your jumping reach is your vertical. The initial number (your regular reach) has absolutely no bearing on how far you leave the ground when you jump. Putting this all together - having longer arms has no bearing whatsoever on how high you jump.

 

[switz]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark.

If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.

How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?

So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

So if a guy has no arms, his vertical will be 0? Who knew not having arms could keep you from jumping......

Not that I'm always right.But I do have all the answers.

Standing with your side next to a wall, reach up & touch as high as you can on the wall. (do not go onto your toes though)

Mark the spot the top of your hand reached (either with chalk, tape, or easiest way...saliva)

Standing in the same spot, now jump up as high as you can and once again with your hand make a second marking at the top of your jump.

Measure the distance between the two markings & this is your vertical leap.

Link: http://vertcoach.com/measure-vertical-leap.html

My professor once told me ('Son, they will first laugh at you,then they will start to listen, then thats when its up to you to be the better person

and continue to teach the less gifted').

So I'm use to this, but I have all the answers.

Exactly, which is why arm length is meaningless.

 

[gianmarco]

And, if that skill were indeed dependent on arm length, then it would probably be renamed the "arm length test" and not the "vertical jump".

I seriously hope you're joking with your posts.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

Yes I read your post. Yes I know how they measure for vertical. No, arm length means nothing. I don't think you understand how it works.Let me try to spell it out....A guy stands with one arm outstretched upward, they measure the height...He jumps, hits some paddles and they measure the height of the highest.You see, his arm length is meaningless, because it doesn't change at all between starting and finishing the jump.If a guy has 36" arms, hist starting height may be higher than someone with 31" arms... but if their finishing heights are both 36" from their starting heights, they both jumped 36"...I'm pretty sure you don't understand how that works. I've been pretty easy going with your schtick so far, but your argument about vertical leaps is ridiculous.

I posted how they measure for vertical jump, I pointed out THAT THEY MESSED THIS UP AT THE COMBINE.That Stewart's vertical was most likey a truer reading than McFadden.I've been correct on just about everything. Do you now understand what I was saying?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

And, if that skill were indeed dependent on arm length, then it would probably be renamed the "arm length test" and not the "vertical jump".I seriously hope you're joking with your posts.

Please re-read what I first wrote.I explained or tried to explain that Stewart's vertical was most likey close to what it should be.It will not still be 6 1/2 inches more than McFadden. Why you ask, I'm guessing because of arm length.My first guess, everyone else is allowed to guess.Fact: Stewart will be a 2nd rounder. That was not a guess. Catching on?

 

[gianmarco]

And, if that skill were indeed dependent on arm length, then it would probably be renamed the "arm length test" and not the "vertical jump".I seriously hope you're joking with your posts.

Please re-read what I first wrote.I explained or tried to explain that Stewart's vertical was most likey close to what it should be.It will not still be 6 1/2 inches more than McFadden. Why you ask, I'm guessing because of arm length.My first guess, everyone else is allowed to guess.Fact: Stewart will be a 2nd rounder. That was not a guess. Catching on?

Wow. You just don't get it. I don't know how anyone else can explain it any simpler to you. The vertical jump has NOTHING TO DO WITH ARM LENGTH. Even if they made mistakes, those mistakes apply to everyone. Not sure why you're convinced that McFadden's vertical was mistaken but Stewart's is right (well, I do know since you have a serious man-crush on DMac), but arm length has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I've reread what you wrote, unfortunately. I may have lost a few IQ points because of it.

 

[sheerterror]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

Question, did you read my post?Question do you know how they measure for the vertical?So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

Yes I read your post. Yes I know how they measure for vertical. No, arm length means nothing. I don't think you understand how it works.Let me try to spell it out....A guy stands with one arm outstretched upward, they measure the height...He jumps, hits some paddles and they measure the height of the highest.You see, his arm length is meaningless, because it doesn't change at all between starting and finishing the jump.If a guy has 36" arms, hist starting height may be higher than someone with 31" arms... but if their finishing heights are both 36" from their starting heights, they both jumped 36"...I'm pretty sure you don't understand how that works. I've been pretty easy going with your schtick so far, but your argument about vertical leaps is ridiculous.

I posted how they measure for vertical jump, I pointed out THAT THEY MESSED THIS UP AT THE COMBINE.That Stewart's vertical was most likey a truer reading than McFadden.I've been correct on just about everything. Do you now understand what I was saying?

So, what you are saying is that they messed up the measurements at the combine for everyone except for Stewart? And since when do you care what Mayock says, rankings or otherwise? All of a sudden, he says something that you have contorted to fit your anti-Stewart schtick and you care what he's got to say? You criticize him for not ranking McFadden no.1 for "shock value" meanwhile you are probably the only person in America that thinks Stewart isn't a top 10 RB talent in this draft.

 

[SayWhat?]

Maroney=Speed = IGNORE

 

[switz]

It makes sense intuitively. I was surprised to see Mendenhall and McFadden fail to crack the 35 inch mark, since most elite RB prospects usually hit that mark. If Stewart's 36.5" was the best mark then the marks may have been off by about 3-5 inches. Each class usually has some guys pushing 40".

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.Stand reach up, than you jump. Take the two number minus them thats your vertical.How did they blow that? I say it was a new guy doing it this year.

M=S - you do realize that arm length make zero difference in the vertical. Don't you????

So Arm Lenght, do mean something.

I'm pretty sure you don't understand how that works. I've been pretty easy going with your schtick so far, but your argument about vertical leaps is ridiculous.

I posted how they measure for vertical jump, I pointed out THAT THEY MESSED THIS UP AT THE COMBINE.

A number of people have already said that the verticals this year were different than previous years. You're not on to something new at all. And in fact, the numbers this year are probably more accurate than previous years.

That Stewart's vertical was most likey a truer reading than McFadden.

That is your opinion. However, your reasoning for it, and I quote "Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden", it completely false as I pointed out. Now, bear in mind, I share your opinion that Stewart is very likely to bust at the NFL level, or not be a STUD RB at the least. But my reasoning is not based on fraudulent arguments such as "vertical leaps are based on arm length"

I've been correct on just about everything.

That's your opinion, but it's already been proven wrong. Arm length has nothing to do with vertical leaps.

Do you now understand what I was saying?

I've understood what you were saying all along. I merely pointed out that what you were saying was factually incorrect. It's fine to have opinions, we all do. But you present your opinions as facts, and you need to acknowledge that they aren't factual in most cases.

 

[switz]

Maroney=Speed = IGNORE

And you probably thought my schtick was bad

 

[sheerterror]

And, if that skill were indeed dependent on arm length, then it would probably be renamed the "arm length test" and not the "vertical jump".I seriously hope you're joking with your posts.

Please re-read what I first wrote.I explained or tried to explain that Stewart's vertical was most likey close to what it should be.It will not still be 6 1/2 inches more than McFadden. Why you ask, I'm guessing because of arm length.My first guess, everyone else is allowed to guess.Fact: Stewart will be a 2nd rounder. That was not a guess. Catching on?

Fact: Stewart just had surgery.He may in fact end up a 2nd rounder, but not for the reasons you've attempted to cite over the past few months - so how exactly does that make your assessment of him correct?

 

[ThePittbully]

Do you even understand what you're saying? So everyone else's vertical was off, but because Stewart has short arms his was right? Even though everyone was measured the same way....

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.

Yep, arm length to start. Correct.

Again I'm guessing Stewart's vertical is some were between 38-41. Yes I know it was 36 1/2.

I saw one site have Him at His vertical jump is 40.5 inches.

Darren McFadden had a 33.

I saw one site have Him at His vertical jump is 40 inches.

If this is true, this would make McFadden equal to Stewart were before Stewart was 3 1/2 more.

BIG Differents I would say.

Sorry I wasn't clear the first time.

 

[gianmarco]

Hopeless.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

And, if that skill were indeed dependent on arm length, then it would probably be renamed the "arm length test" and not the "vertical jump".I seriously hope you're joking with your posts.

Please re-read what I first wrote.I explained or tried to explain that Stewart's vertical was most likey close to what it should be.It will not still be 6 1/2 inches more than McFadden. Why you ask, I'm guessing because of arm length.My first guess, everyone else is allowed to guess.Fact: Stewart will be a 2nd rounder. That was not a guess. Catching on?

Fact: Stewart just had surgery.He may in fact end up a 2nd rounder, but not for the reasons you've attempted to cite over the past few months - so how exactly does that make your assessment of him correct?

It was all on the tape, I'm sure you saw the no cutting and no 2nd gear?You did see that, correct?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Hopeless.

Wrong again.Stewart is not going to Seattle.

 

[EBF]

Guys, if you haven't figured it out by now, Maroney = . He's just trying to get a rise out of people.

 

[sheerterror]

Guys, if you haven't figured it out by now, Maroney = . He's just trying to get a rise out of people.

Man I hope so, and I hope the spelling and grammatical errors are a part of it - because some of them are...impressive....

 

[switz]

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.

No, it doesn't. You are embarrassing yourself.

Yep, arm length to start. Correct.

Arm length is included in BOTH the starting and ending measurements, that factor does not change at all during the jump. A guy with shorter arms may have a shorter starting point, but his ending point is completely dependent on his jumping ability, not his arm length. The difference in beginning and ending measurements is the leap, it does not use arm length as a factor. I don't understand how hard this is for you to figure out. Do I need to draw a picture?Just as an example, I'm really trying to help you out here:

Say player A is 5'11" tall with 33" long arms and has a starting height of 93"

Say player B is 6'1" tall with 36" long arms and has a starting height of 99"

If both jumped 30":

player A's ending height would be 123"

player B's ending height would be 129"

You see, arm length is eliminated as a factor, by basing the starting measurement on an extended arm. The starting measurement is unique to the player.

Again I'm guessing Stewart's vertical is some were between 38-41. Yes I know it was 36 1/2.

I saw one site have Him at His vertical jump is 40.5 inches.

Darren McFadden had a 33.

I saw one site have Him at His vertical jump is 40 inches.

If this is true, this would make McFadden equal to Stewart were before Stewart was 3 1/2 more.

BIG Differents I would say.

Sorry I wasn't clear the first time.

The problem with your argument is you are using as a basis something which is FACTUALLY INCORRECT!!

 

[gianmarco]

Guys, if you haven't figured it out by now, Maroney = . He's just trying to get a rise out of people.

With H.K., it's obvious. Here, not so much. Unfortunately, I think you might actually be mistaken. I truly hope you aren't, though.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I posted how they measure for vertical jump, I pointed out THAT THEY MESSED THIS UP AT THE COMBINE.

That Stewart's vertical was most likey a truer reading than McFadden.

I've been correct on just about everything. Do you now understand what I was saying?

I don't think you understand what you are saying.

 

[KoolKat]

Goes on arm length, Stewart's arms are smaller than McFadden. I think His(Stewart's) vertical is close to being correct.

No, it doesn't. You are embarrassing yourself.

Yep, arm length to start. Correct.

Arm length is included in BOTH the starting and ending measurements, that factor does not change at all during the jump. A guy with shorter arms may have a shorter starting point, but his ending point is completely dependent on his jumping ability, not his arm length. The difference in beginning and ending measurements is the leap, it does not use arm length as a factor. I don't understand how hard this is for you to figure out. Do I need to draw a picture?Just as an example, I'm really trying to help you out here:

Say player A is 5'11" tall with 33" long arms and has a starting height of 93"

Say player B is 6'1" tall with 36" long arms and has a starting height of 99"

If both jumped 30":

player A's ending height would be 123"

player B's ending height would be 129"

You see, arm length is eliminated as a factor, by basing the starting measurement on an extended arm. The starting measurement is unique to the player.

Again I'm guessing Stewart's vertical is some were between 38-41. Yes I know it was 36 1/2.

I saw one site have Him at His vertical jump is 40.5 inches.

Darren McFadden had a 33.

I saw one site have Him at His vertical jump is 40 inches.

If this is true, this would make McFadden equal to Stewart were before Stewart was 3 1/2 more.

BIG Differents I would say.

Sorry I wasn't clear the first time.

The problem with your argument is you are using as a basis something which is FACTUALLY INCORRECT!!

Not that it was hard, but...