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Could be good because they will lean all the harder on Barber but on the other hand defenses may put 8 in the box and dare Dallas to beat them with Brad Johnson through the air.

What are your thoughts about this situation and Barbers value going forward

 
Could be good because they will lean all the harder on Barber but on the other hand defenses may put 8 in the box and dare Dallas to beat them with Brad Johnson through the air.What are your thoughts about this situation and Barbers value going forward
With the WR threats they have, I can't imaging teams stacking the box much. If they do, they won't for long if BJ can stay healthy for three weeks.
 
Could be good because they will lean all the harder on Barber but on the other hand defenses may put 8 in the box and dare Dallas to beat them with Brad Johnson through the air.What are your thoughts about this situation and Barbers value going forward
With the WR threats they have, I can't imaging teams stacking the box much. If they do, they won't for long if BJ can stay healthy for three weeks.
AgreeBarber may get a few more touches with jones out so you gotta bump him up a bit,if there's room to bump him up anymore
 
BJ can play...
He'll be more of a game manager and will hit Witten and TO. Not sure about his arm-strength, but he won't be loosey-goosey for sure. I would think the uses his studs (ie, less Crayton and Miles) and possibly we see more of MBIII and Felix, assuming Felix's hammy is ok.
 
Could be good because they will lean all the harder on Barber but on the other hand defenses may put 8 in the box and dare Dallas to beat them with Brad Johnson through the air.What are your thoughts about this situation and Barbers value going forward
With the WR threats they have, I can't imaging teams stacking the box much. If they do, they won't for long if BJ can stay healthy for three weeks.
AgreeBarber may get a few more touches with jones out so you gotta bump him up a bit,if there's room to bump him up anymore
it will be similar to when Beldose played... don't expect anymore 170 yd games; but MBIII is a stud and should be fine, the drop off what be much.
 
More carries, more receptions, fewer touchdowns, lower YPC.Neutral.
Almost my exact thoughts. I think TD opps will be down as the offense will be down as a whole. But I could see Barber receiving more checkdowns, screens, and overall touches, esp with Felix out for a bit.
 
More carries, more receptions, fewer touchdowns, lower YPC.Neutral.
Almost my exact thoughts. I think TD opps will be down as the offense will be down as a whole. But I could see Barber receiving more checkdowns, screens, and overall touches, esp with Felix out for a bit.
agreed, though I actually think Witten will be the benefactor of this situation and a lot of the checkdowns. Amazingly I could actually see his reception go up over the next few weeks.
 
game situations and the performance of Choice spelling him could have some baring on his late game touches. BJ should still be good enough to stop defenses from stacking the line.

I see TO taking the biggest hit with the passing game not so "go deep" oriented with BJ's lack of mobility.

Barber will still be a quality play every week, IMHO.

 
More carries, more receptions, fewer touchdowns, lower YPC.Neutral.
Almost my exact thoughts. I think TD opps will be down as the offense will be down as a whole. But I could see Barber receiving more checkdowns, screens, and overall touches, esp with Felix out for a bit.
agreed, though I actually think Witten will be the benefactor of this situation and a lot of the checkdowns. Amazingly I could actually see his reception go up over the next few weeks.
remember when Bledose was the QB... Witten had 1 TD for the yr; JW is going to be blocking a whole lot more.
 
This is clearly bad for Barber. Shorter possessions, fewer scoring opportunities = fewer yards and points. Don't overthink this.

He's still a top 12 RB most likely, but his pace will slow while Romo is out.

 
This is clearly bad for Barber. Shorter possessions, fewer scoring opportunities = fewer yards and points. Don't overthink this.He's still a top 12 RB most likely, but his pace will slow while Romo is out.
Top 12? LOL!I'm not disagreeing with you that his numbers COULD slide, but not top-12. It's not like they're rolling Gus Frerotte in there. What is so bad about Brad Johnson? As for Barber, he's the best back in Fantasy in most formats. He'll be top-5 AT WORST. Tell me who is playing better than him besides Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, and Reggie Bush (in ppr).
 
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His run total won't change much. His reception total will go up because BJ loves to throw the checkdown. TDs will be down as the offense isnt as explosive.

 
Katism said:
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith said:
This is clearly bad for Barber. Shorter possessions, fewer scoring opportunities = fewer yards and points. Don't overthink this.He's still a top 12 RB most likely, but his pace will slow while Romo is out.
Top 12? LOL!I'm not disagreeing with you that his numbers COULD slide, but not top-12. It's not like they're rolling Gus Frerotte in there. What is so bad about Brad Johnson? As for Barber, he's the best back in Fantasy in most formats. He'll be top-5 AT WORST. Tell me who is playing better than him besides Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, and Reggie Bush (in ppr).
wow.. I take it you own him.. Settle down a bit.. I think Chase stated it best. Fewer TD opportunity's for sure going forward without Romo. & you really can't compare who is playing better as of today since he has had Romo up until this week. I think we'll have to wait & see what happens but I think Barber will see a decline for the next 3 weeks. How much remains to be seen.. & I'm not quite sure if Frerotte doesn't just about equal Brad Johnson. albeit less arm strength out of Brad Johnson..
 
Katism said:
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith said:
This is clearly bad for Barber. Shorter possessions, fewer scoring opportunities = fewer yards and points. Don't overthink this.He's still a top 12 RB most likely, but his pace will slow while Romo is out.
Top 12? LOL!I'm not disagreeing with you that his numbers COULD slide, but not top-12. It's not like they're rolling Gus Frerotte in there. What is so bad about Brad Johnson? As for Barber, he's the best back in Fantasy in most formats. He'll be top-5 AT WORST. Tell me who is playing better than him besides Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, and Reggie Bush (in ppr).
wow.. I take it you own him.. Settle down a bit.. I think Chase stated it best. Fewer TD opportunity's for sure going forward without Romo. & you really can't compare who is playing better as of today since he has had Romo up until this week. I think we'll have to wait & see what happens but I think Barber will see a decline for the next 3 weeks. How much remains to be seen.. & I'm not quite sure if Frerotte doesn't just about equal Brad Johnson. albeit less arm strength out of Brad Johnson..
To be fair, Chase also said in the end it's neutral.
 
unckeyherb said:
MCguidance said:
More carries, more receptions, fewer touchdowns, lower YPC.Neutral.
Almost my exact thoughts. I think TD opps will be down as the offense will be down as a whole. But I could see Barber receiving more checkdowns, screens, and overall touches, esp with Felix out for a bit.
agreed, though I actually think Witten will be the benefactor of this situation and a lot of the checkdowns. Amazingly I could actually see his reception go up over the next few weeks.
not sure how witten gets more targets with bj than he was getting with romo, esp considering dallas is likely to throw less passes a game... barber is the benefactor here, if there's one at all... barber will see more touches, but the offense as a whole will probably suffer
 
Katism said:
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith said:
This is clearly bad for Barber. Shorter possessions, fewer scoring opportunities = fewer yards and points. Don't overthink this.He's still a top 12 RB most likely, but his pace will slow while Romo is out.
Top 12? LOL!I'm not disagreeing with you that his numbers COULD slide, but not top-12. It's not like they're rolling Gus Frerotte in there. What is so bad about Brad Johnson? As for Barber, he's the best back in Fantasy in most formats. He'll be top-5 AT WORST. Tell me who is playing better than him besides Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, and Reggie Bush (in ppr).
wow.. I take it you own him.. Settle down a bit.. I think Chase stated it best. Fewer TD opportunity's for sure going forward without Romo. & you really can't compare who is playing better as of today since he has had Romo up until this week. I think we'll have to wait & see what happens but I think Barber will see a decline for the next 3 weeks. How much remains to be seen.. & I'm not quite sure if Frerotte doesn't just about equal Brad Johnson. albeit less arm strength out of Brad Johnson..
Owning him has nothing to do with it. Look at the weapons Dallas has. Witten, TO, and now Roy Williams. Minnesota has ADP, an average WR core and no TE that can compare to Witten. yeah Brad Johnson is 40-years-old but he was a pro-bowl caliber QB during his career. It's not like the entire offense is going to implode. If Brooks Bollinger was the backup QB for the Dallas Cowboys then I would understand your argument. They play St. Louis this weekend who may have won last week against the Redskins but they couldn't stop Clinton Portis (21-129-2). How are they going to stop MBIII? If Frank Gore and Matt Forte can put up top-5 #'s with top-20 QBs and minimal WR help, why can't Barber do the same, if not better with the offense that is around him?
 
Katism said:
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith said:
This is clearly bad for Barber. Shorter possessions, fewer scoring opportunities = fewer yards and points. Don't overthink this.

He's still a top 12 RB most likely, but his pace will slow while Romo is out.
Top 12? LOL!I'm not disagreeing with you that his numbers COULD slide, but not top-12. It's not like they're rolling Gus Frerotte in there. What is so bad about Brad Johnson? As for Barber, he's the best back in Fantasy in most formats. He'll be top-5 AT WORST. Tell me who is playing better than him besides Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, and Reggie Bush (in ppr).
wow.. I take it you own him.. Settle down a bit.. I think Chase stated it best. Fewer TD opportunity's for sure going forward without Romo. & you really can't compare who is playing better as of today since he has had Romo up until this week. I think we'll have to wait & see what happens but I think Barber will see a decline for the next 3 weeks. How much remains to be seen.. & I'm not quite sure if Frerotte doesn't just about equal Brad Johnson. albeit less arm strength out of Brad Johnson..
Owning him has nothing to do with it. Look at the weapons Dallas has. Witten, TO, and now Roy Williams. Minnesota has ADP, an average WR core and no TE that can compare to Witten. yeah Brad Johnson is 40-years-old but he was a pro-bowl caliber QB during his career. It's not like the entire offense is going to implode. If Brooks Bollinger was the backup QB for the Dallas Cowboys then I would understand your argument. They play St. Louis this weekend who may have won last week against the Redskins but they couldn't stop Clinton Portis (21-129-2). How are they going to stop MBIII? If Frank Gore and Matt Forte can put up top-5 #'s with top-20 QBs and minimal WR help, why can't Barber do the same, if not better with the offense that is around him?
I'm an MB3 owner but I have to see it happen. I think Portis is a better runner than Barber (maybe not in short yardages) and Wash's line is playing better than Dallas'. The Cowboys line has just not been as lights out as it was earlier in the season. Ttat being said, he has a very favorable matchup this week and should put up big numbers. I just would like to see the Dallas O line play a bit better.
 
His run total won't change much. His reception total will go up because BJ loves to throw the checkdown. TDs will be down as the offense isnt as explosive.
:thumbup: barber has been seeing his fair share of 8 man fronts. don't think teams are going to play them like the vikings.witten's YPC will decrease. catches will go down, just don't see them having as many 1st downs. also they will probably have him stay to block more. especially if flozell does bad again.
 
I agree the overall offensive production could go down, resulting in fewer TD's, but I think Barber will see a spike in targets on checkdowns, and maybe designed screens. I know he went off receiving this past week, with 12 targets, but prior to that he only had 4-5-4-2-2 targets. Watching a few Dallas games over the past years, I think Romo rarely looks for the checkdown and is usually trying as long as possible to get the ball down the field. With TO in your ear 24/7, who can blame him. To me, prior to last week, it looked like a good part of Barber's catches were on designed RB pass plays. At least I'm hoping the increased receptions will offset any loss in TD's.

 
We need to re visit this with Tampa Bay facing the Cowboys. I am concerned as Hell about Barber in that game if Brad Johnson is the QB. Any one else share these concerns?
I'm not too concerned. It's in Dallas and the Cowboys are beaten down and ready for some revenge. I see this as one of those games where you play your studs and they usually come through for you.
 
We need to re visit this with Tampa Bay facing the Cowboys. I am concerned as Hell about Barber in that game if Brad Johnson is the QB. Any one else share these concerns?
I'm not too concerned. It's in Dallas and the Cowboys are beaten down and ready for some revenge. I see this as one of those games where you play your studs and they usually come through for you.
IF Johnson plays I would bench Barber.
 
We need to re visit this with Tampa Bay facing the Cowboys. I am concerned as Hell about Barber in that game if Brad Johnson is the QB. Any one else share these concerns?
I'm not too concerned. It's in Dallas and the Cowboys are beaten down and ready for some revenge. I see this as one of those games where you play your studs and they usually come through for you.
IF Johnson plays I would bench Barber.
Better have another solid option at RB... otherwise I don't see how you can. He's there only consistent weapon on offense right now.
 

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