Why must you work so hard to make something so right, wrong?I am just trying not to picture two guys holding each others hair while tandem vomiting. Even if only one guy holds the hair, doesn't the guy with the hair get covered in vomit?Damn, I now need a bottle of scotch after all to remove images from brain.I am NOT gay.you guys are weirding me outOddly, it's also on my list. I only wish I still had my long hair.I would feel completed if only I could hold Evilgrin's hair during a tandem vomit. It's a bucket list item I have had for some years now.![]()
Weird....people keep telling me my chicken is the best they have ever had. MUSHY has never come up.A lot more salt? This has 5x more than is required to do the job even if all the other components were changed to water. Salt in a brine needs to be added by weight, not measure. This is more to prevent waste than to do anything chemically.Binky The Doormat said:Many are interested - go on. How is this low ph mixture going to impart a different texture on the meat that a more typical brine with a lot more salt? We want to know!!!What you have here is a marinade, not a brine. One that will start to unravel the protein strands in minutes. The effect on the texture will be deterministic. I'm surprised such a wide window of time in the marinade is quoted.What?It works...There is some acid here. I would be curious to see the ph of this mixture measured. If too low (<7.5) I would worry about causing the bird to lose it's ability to retain moisture. This is also a 35%-ish salt solution. 6% is all that is required. Anything north of 6% is just food waste.the brine recipe is not for sale....but here ya go....1 part soyZTipsy how do I go about ordering some of the Brine ? Would like to try it myself and also have a coworker who is into smoking and brings stuff in all the time, would like to get him some to try as well.
1 part oj
1 part sugar
1 part salt
1 can sprite
4 parts water.
Sprite has a pH level of 4.08. (I don't even want to know what they use to get there)
Soy sauce has a similar ph in the low 4s (Lactic Acid)
OJ should be even lower. 3.5 is the best guess.
Sugar and water is neutral. Salt has no H so it isn't a factor here.
I'm guessing you are looking at a ph of perhaps 5.5.
Any airflow over the bird during cooking is going to cause problems.
Brining is a very well understood reaction. This isn't a brine, which is fine, you just need to understand what it is. The amount of acid here will tenderize the meat. Quickly. Most people do not care for mushy chicken.
What I imagine happens here is that the long slow cooking dries out the mushy chicken to the point it's edible and the salt holds just enough moisture such that it doesn't taste like a 2x4. I am not a fan of smoked chicken. I think the whole concept of smoking something with so little intramuscular fat makes no sense whatsoever.
It certainly wasn't mushy, but I did use more water in order to cover the birds so it may not be the perfect test/proof.Weird....people keep telling me my chicken is the best they have ever had. MUSHY has never come up.A lot more salt? This has 5x more than is required to do the job even if all the other components were changed to water. Salt in a brine needs to be added by weight, not measure. This is more to prevent waste than to do anything chemically.Many are interested - go on. How is this low ph mixture going to impart a different texture on the meat that a more typical brine with a lot more salt? We want to know!!!What you have here is a marinade, not a brine. One that will start to unravel the protein strands in minutes. The effect on the texture will be deterministic. I'm surprised such a wide window of time in the marinade is quoted.What?It works...There is some acid here. I would be curious to see the ph of this mixture measured. If too low (<7.5) I would worry about causing the bird to lose it's ability to retain moisture. This is also a 35%-ish salt solution. 6% is all that is required. Anything north of 6% is just food waste.the brine recipe is not for sale....but here ya go....1 part soyZTipsy how do I go about ordering some of the Brine ? Would like to try it myself and also have a coworker who is into smoking and brings stuff in all the time, would like to get him some to try as well.
1 part oj
1 part sugar
1 part salt
1 can sprite
4 parts water.
Sprite has a pH level of 4.08. (I don't even want to know what they use to get there)
Soy sauce has a similar ph in the low 4s (Lactic Acid)
OJ should be even lower. 3.5 is the best guess.
Sugar and water is neutral. Salt has no H so it isn't a factor here.
I'm guessing you are looking at a ph of perhaps 5.5.
Any airflow over the bird during cooking is going to cause problems.
Brining is a very well understood reaction. This isn't a brine, which is fine, you just need to understand what it is. The amount of acid here will tenderize the meat. Quickly. Most people do not care for mushy chicken.
What I imagine happens here is that the long slow cooking dries out the mushy chicken to the point it's edible and the salt holds just enough moisture such that it doesn't taste like a 2x4. I am not a fan of smoked chicken. I think the whole concept of smoking something with so little intramuscular fat makes no sense whatsoever.
Most people wouldn't complain to a portly, self-important figure such as yourself.Weird....people keep telling me my chicken is the best they have ever had. MUSHY has never come up.A lot more salt? This has 5x more than is required to do the job even if all the other components were changed to water. Salt in a brine needs to be added by weight, not measure. This is more to prevent waste than to do anything chemically.Many are interested - go on. How is this low ph mixture going to impart a different texture on the meat that a more typical brine with a lot more salt? We want to know!!!What you have here is a marinade, not a brine. One that will start to unravel the protein strands in minutes. The effect on the texture will be deterministic. I'm surprised such a wide window of time in the marinade is quoted.What?It works...There is some acid here. I would be curious to see the ph of this mixture measured. If too low (<7.5) I would worry about causing the bird to lose it's ability to retain moisture. This is also a 35%-ish salt solution. 6% is all that is required. Anything north of 6% is just food waste.the brine recipe is not for sale....but here ya go....1 part soyZTipsy how do I go about ordering some of the Brine ? Would like to try it myself and also have a coworker who is into smoking and brings stuff in all the time, would like to get him some to try as well.
1 part oj
1 part sugar
1 part salt
1 can sprite
4 parts water.
Sprite has a pH level of 4.08. (I don't even want to know what they use to get there)
Soy sauce has a similar ph in the low 4s (Lactic Acid)
OJ should be even lower. 3.5 is the best guess.
Sugar and water is neutral. Salt has no H so it isn't a factor here.
I'm guessing you are looking at a ph of perhaps 5.5.
Any airflow over the bird during cooking is going to cause problems.
Brining is a very well understood reaction. This isn't a brine, which is fine, you just need to understand what it is. The amount of acid here will tenderize the meat. Quickly. Most people do not care for mushy chicken.
What I imagine happens here is that the long slow cooking dries out the mushy chicken to the point it's edible and the salt holds just enough moisture such that it doesn't taste like a 2x4. I am not a fan of smoked chicken. I think the whole concept of smoking something with so little intramuscular fat makes no sense whatsoever.
I'm sure if he did, someone would have started a thread about it.Wat? Tipsey is seriously being questioned? Doesn't he actually own a resteraunt?
I don't see the issue with it. Because he owns a restaurant he can't be questioned on why he uses a certain brine? All business owners can't be questioned? Seems silly.Wat? Tipsey is seriously being questioned? Doesn't he actually own a resteraunt?
Tipsey is always learning and questioning food. Poster was a bit ridiculous in his comment.I don't see the issue with it. Because he owns a restaurant he can't be questioned on why he uses a certain brine? All business owners can't be questioned? Seems silly.Wat? Tipsey is seriously being questioned? Doesn't he actually own a resteraunt?
As others have explained, a brine is a technique that is basically scientifically proven. Tipsey's is very different from that. It may work for him, though.
And to a certain extent, Tipsey should be continually learning and questioning himself. That's how business owners become successful.
i call it brine, some call it a marinade....but all I know is my method works really well for what I am doing. And no...l have no problem being questioned...I was after all a front of house guy most of my career.
Installed a home made scrubber this weekend for under 100 bucks. It sprays a fine mist / fog over the smoke exiting the stack with two different nozzles attached inside another stack with a cone at the bottom to collect the moisture & particulate matter. It is working really well...but we are going to make version 2.0 with another nozzle and higher stack. I want to be able to show the judge that may or may not ever here this case that we are trying to help reduce the smoke my neighbors detect. Basically I pulled an end run around their attempt at shutting me down and now they are negotiating a truce of sorts....if their fence is rebuilt (see landlord destroys their fence post some pages back) and the smoke is reduced they are allegedly going to drop the suit.
If they don't...well....they will lose horribly in court in my opinion and I will counter sue for everything I possibly can. I've had enough of being messed with.
i call it brine, some call it a marinade....but all I know is my method works really well for what I am doing. And no...l have no problem being questioned...I was after all a front of house guy most of my career.
Installed a home made scrubber this weekend for under 100 bucks. It sprays a fine mist / fog over the smoke exiting the stack with two different nozzles attached inside another stack with a cone at the bottom to collect the moisture & particulate matter. It is working really well...but we are going to make version 2.0 with another nozzle and higher stack. I want to be able to show the judge that may or may not ever here this case that we are trying to help reduce the smoke my neighbors detect. Basically I pulled an end run around their attempt at shutting me down and now they are negotiating a truce of sorts....if their fence is rebuilt (see landlord destroys their fence post some pages back) and the smoke is reduced they are allegedly going to drop the suit.
If they don't...well....they will lose horribly in court in my opinion and I will counter sue for everything I possibly can. I've had enough of being messed with.
Whatever it is, I used the "mixture" for wings yesterday for the first time. I did not have enough sugar on hand so I substituted roughly half of the sugar the recipe calls for with Brown Sugar. The wings turned out great. Everybody loved em' - even the wife approved which is a tough sell as she is not a big wing fan. Thanks for sharing!i call it brine, some call it a marinade....but all I know is my method works really well for what I am doing.
I liked it as well and used the rub after the brininade. The wings were great. I added some salt and pepper to the rub as suggested and probably didn't need any salt after the brininade. They still tasted great, especially the chicken, but they really didn't need any extra seasoning beyond the rub.Whatever it is, I used the "mixture" for wings yesterday for the first time. I did not have enough sugar on hand so I substituted roughly half of the sugar the recipe calls for with Brown Sugar. The wings turned out great. Everybody loved em' - even the wife approved which is a tough sell as she is not a big wing fan. Thanks for sharing!i call it brine, some call it a marinade....but all I know is my method works really well for what I am doing.
planning on going today for lunch if i can get some work doneAwfully quiet in here...![]()
Had the brisket cheesesteak sandwich for lunch. Phenomenal. We were the 2nd group in for lunch and then it got slammed....was packed the entire time.planning on going today for lunch if i can get some work doneAwfully quiet in here...![]()
Did you say hi to Portly McStagger?Had the brisket cheesesteak sandwich for lunch. Phenomenal. We were the 2nd group in for lunch and then it got slammed....was packed the entire time.planning on going today for lunch if i can get some work doneAwfully quiet in here...![]()
Impressed with the technology behind the whole smoke capture thing. Very little smoke was visible and minimal smell while we were walking a block or so from where we parked. (I love that smell, but just commenting on how the thing worked).
I did. Sent him your loveJoe T said:Did you say hi to Portly McStagger?Tiger Fan said:Had the brisket cheesesteak sandwich for lunch. Phenomenal. We were the 2nd group in for lunch and then it got slammed....was packed the entire time.Tiger Fan said:planning on going today for lunch if i can get some work doneAwfully quiet in here...![]()
Impressed with the technology behind the whole smoke capture thing. Very little smoke was visible and minimal smell while we were walking a block or so from where we parked. (I love that smell, but just commenting on how the thing worked).
It was really good. Brought 4 people from work, only 1 of which had been before. Out of the other 3, one of them was swearing up and down by one of the competitors down the street.....this changed his mindAcerFC said:Brisket cheesesteak
:yum:
It only took 1 hour. Only problem now is I have them done too early. I just put them in foil and will fry them before I serve them. Hope that doesnt ruin them. But I stole one before the fry and they were awesome. I would love to buy that rub when its available TipsWings are being brined tipsy style. Smoke em and frying them tomorrow.
I didn't have peanut oil so I'll have to use canola. Plan on using tipsyrub as well.
I've never smoked wings before, 2 hours in the big green egg sound good or is that too long
I usually don't smoke my wings for more than an hour or so at around 250 on my WSM. Not a lot of meat to cook.Wings are being brined tipsy style. Smoke em and frying them tomorrow.
I didn't have peanut oil so I'll have to use canola. Plan on using tipsyrub as well.
I've never smoked wings before, 2 hours in the big green egg sound good or is that too long
How much pepper did you put in with the rub?It only took 1 hour. Only problem now is I have them done too early. I just put them in foil and will fry them before I serve them. Hope that doesnt ruin them. But I stole one before the fry and they were awesome. I would love to buy that rub when its available TipsWings are being brined tipsy style. Smoke em and frying them tomorrow.
I didn't have peanut oil so I'll have to use canola. Plan on using tipsyrub as well.
I've never smoked wings before, 2 hours in the big green egg sound good or is that too long
no worries. Appreciate itWhoops, sorry.
left it as was. Added nothing. The rub got me about 17 wings or so. Had to use 3 little pigs for the remaining wings.How much pepper did you put in with the rub?It only took 1 hour. Only problem now is I have them done too early. I just put them in foil and will fry them before I serve them. Hope that doesnt ruin them. But I stole one before the fry and they were awesome. I would love to buy that rub when its available TipsWings are being brined tipsy style. Smoke em and frying them tomorrow.
I didn't have peanut oil so I'll have to use canola. Plan on using tipsyrub as well.
I've never smoked wings before, 2 hours in the big green egg sound good or is that too long
Used Canola Oil as well. Turned out great. Think I've got some room for improvement with respect to applying the rub. I used the ziplock/shake method after I patted them dry. Is there something better out there?left it as was. Added nothing. The rub got me about 17 wings or so. Had to use 3 little pigs for the remaining wings.How much pepper did you put in with the rub?It only took 1 hour. Only problem now is I have them done too early. I just put them in foil and will fry them before I serve them. Hope that doesnt ruin them. But I stole one before the fry and they were awesome. I would love to buy that rub when its available TipsWings are being brined tipsy style. Smoke em and frying them tomorrow.
I didn't have peanut oil so I'll have to use canola. Plan on using tipsyrub as well.
I've never smoked wings before, 2 hours in the big green egg sound good or is that too long
yes indeed.5Rings said:I will be in town for Halloween and want to come by. Are you open every night?
Agreed. Tipsy, if you start bottling the rub and selling it online, I'll buy some. It made my pork chops delicious.It only took 1 hour. Only problem now is I have them done too early. I just put them in foil and will fry them before I serve them. Hope that doesnt ruin them. But I stole one before the fry and they were awesome. I would love to buy that rub when its available TipsWings are being brined tipsy style. Smoke em and frying them tomorrow.
I didn't have peanut oil so I'll have to use canola. Plan on using tipsyrub as well.
I've never smoked wings before, 2 hours in the big green egg sound good or is that too long
City: Odor from Sriracha chili plant a nuisance California city sues Sriracha hot sauce maker, calls odor from factory a public nuisance LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The maker of Sriracha hot sauce is under fire for allegedly fouling the air around its Southern California factory.
The city of Irwindale filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court Monday asking a judge to stop production at the Huy Fong Foods factory, claiming the chili odor emanating from the plant is a public nuisance.
City officials say residents have been complaining of burning eyes, irritated throats and headaches and that some people have had to leave their house to escape the smell.
One family was forced to move a birthday party indoors after the strong smell overwhelmed the festivity, Irwindale City Attorney Fred Galante told the Los Angeles Times.
Huy Fong initially cooperated with the city, but talks broke down last week after company representatives denied there was an odor problem, saying their employees worked in similar olfactory settings without complaint, Galante said.
The city, which is about 20 miles east of downtown Los Angeles, is seeking temporary closure of the factory until Huy Fong submits a plan to minimize the smell.
"If they fix it and the odor problems stop, we don't need this order; but so far the odor complaints continue," Galante said.
An after-hours call to the company was not immediately returned.
Huy Fong's green-capped chili bottles are hugely popular and are a fixture at restaurants around the world. The first Sriracha Festival held in downtown Los Angeles over the weekend drew hundreds of fans. The condiment's creator, David Tran, was there sporting a T-shirt that said "I put Sriracha on my Sriracha."
The company had operated out of two buildings in nearby Rosemead since the late 1980s until it opened large factory in Irwindale this year.
All of the chili needed for producing the year's sauce is processed and stored between September and December.
Some great comments in there, too, including a couple of people who want to support the restaurant because of the lawsuit.
Update on this one: http://www.abc27.com/story/23841829/calif-citys-bid-to-close-sriracha-plant-deniedSee, it's not just you...
City: Odor from Sriracha chili plant a nuisance California city sues Sriracha hot sauce maker, calls odor from factory a public nuisanceLOS ANGELES (AP) -- The maker of Sriracha hot sauce is under fire for allegedly fouling the air around its Southern California factory.
The city of Irwindale filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court Monday asking a judge to stop production at the Huy Fong Foods factory, claiming the chili odor emanating from the plant is a public nuisance.
A judge refused Thursday to order an immediate halt to production of the internationally popular hot sauce Sriracha at a Southern California factory that local residents say is stinking up their neighborhoods with pepper and garlic fumes. In rejecting the city of Irwindale's request for a temporary restraining order, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert O'Brien indicated he wasn't given enough time to consider the case.
"You're asking for a very radical order on 24-hour notice," O'Brien told attorney June Ailin, representing the city. Instead, O'Brien scheduled a Nov. 22 hearing to consider issuing a preliminary injunction.
The harvest season will end in about a week, meaning the smell should be gone by the Nov. 22 hearing - at least until next August.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.Making me hungry, reading that. Hope I get down there someday.
Saucy's is the best you can getWhat's your opinion of Saucy's? They seem pretty close to you.