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Has anyone heard anything about McFadden's injury??
and bonus update on Bush[Comment From DanielDaniel: ]
Do you play fantasy football? Is Bush a good fantasy pickup, with McFadden hurt?
Tuesday October 5, 2010 11:58 Daniel
11:59 jerrymac: No, I don't play, not for the last 15 years or so. But I'd be surprised to see McFadden out there and playing. Cable said he felt much better than last time _ so maybe he's out a week instead of three or four.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010...oon-on-tuesday/[Comment From JimboJimbo: ]
Is Michael Bush Ready? To take the rock 25 times like DMC did?
Tuesday October 5, 2010 12:13 Jimbo
12:14 jerrymac: He may not have a choice. Might be better off keeping it closer to 20 and getting Cartwright involved for five to eight carries as change of pace. Bennett has a hamstring injury as well.
Status update of McFadden:
From Jerry Mac's noon chat with Raider fans:
and bonus update on Bush[Comment From DanielDaniel: ]
Do you play fantasy football? Is Bush a good fantasy pickup, with McFadden hurt?
Tuesday October 5, 2010 11:58 Daniel
11:59 jerrymac: No, I don't play, not for the last 15 years or so. But I'd be surprised to see McFadden out there and playing. Cable said he felt much better than last time _ so maybe he's out a week instead of three or four.http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010...oon-on-tuesday/[Comment From JimboJimbo: ]
Is Michael Bush Ready? To take the rock 25 times like DMC did?
Tuesday October 5, 2010 12:13 Jimbo
12:14 jerrymac: He may not have a choice. Might be better off keeping it closer to 20 and getting Cartwright involved for five to eight carries as change of pace. Bennett has a hamstring injury as well.
It looks like M. Bush is a safe play at least this weekend, but I'd guess at least 2 games. I'd like to think the fire that DMAC showed in the first four games will light a fire under Bush in his contract year.
Only if Bush gets hurt in the mean time. This has mess written all over it.I would imagine when McFadden returns, he will be in a RBBC with Bush, thus eliminating/reducing both RB's fantasy value. It was a nice 3-4 games for McFadden, but the ride is over, correct? Does anyone envision it playing out differently?
I think I agree.I would imagine when McFadden returns, he will be in a RBBC with Bush, thus eliminating/reducing both RB's fantasy value. It was a nice 3-4 games for McFadden, but the ride is over, correct? Does anyone envision it playing out differently?
Yes. I think when McFadden is healthy from his injury, he will be the lead back much like the first few weeks. The Raiders got a sniff of what he could do, and it was damn good. They'll at least give him a chance to keep going with the hot hand. Remember that Bush didn't leech very many carries when he returned from injury, and I refuse to believe that the thumb injury was the primary reason for that low # of carries. All of the quotes from Bush indicated that he felt fine, and that he was itching to play again.I would imagine when McFadden returns, he will be in a RBBC with Bush, thus eliminating/reducing both RB's fantasy value. It was a nice 3-4 games for McFadden, but the ride is over, correct? Does anyone envision it playing out differently?
Feels like a lose/lose for Bush owners. If he blows up, it may be RBBC. If he falters, he's a backup. I'm considering selling to the McFadden owner.I think Bush is going to have to erupt in order to keep a noticeable piece of the pie once McFadden gets healthy.
He was on pace for 300+ total yards before he went out. Bush simply does not have that potential. Mcfadden is a game breaker. And let's not forget that a healthy Bush did not show enough in TC or preseason to be annointed a feature back. McFadden has now proven he has that ability.Yes. I think when McFadden is healthy from his injury, he will be the lead back much like the first few weeks. The Raiders got a sniff of what he could do, and it was damn good. They'll at least give him a chance to keep going with the hot hand. Remember that Bush didn't leech very many carries when he returned from injury, and I refuse to believe that the thumb injury was the primary reason for that low # of carries. All of the quotes from Bush indicated that he felt fine, and that he was itching to play again.I would imagine when McFadden returns, he will be in a RBBC with Bush, thus eliminating/reducing both RB's fantasy value. It was a nice 3-4 games for McFadden, but the ride is over, correct? Does anyone envision it playing out differently?
I view the few carrie Bush got in the Arizona game as a testing ground to see if his hand could hold up. In Bush's first real game action back from injury he got the carries at the goal line. That's a very strong statement.You can refuse to believe all you want that his thumb wasn't the primary reason for the low number of carries, but an RB needs to be able to grip the ball with his thumb and protect it with both hands. A thumb injury and any protective padding a player has to wear as a result could pose a problem with ball security, so there's no reason why the Raiders would force-feed Bush the ball when he was still limited. As his thumb has become less of a liability he's getting more touches.A player can "feel fine" and be itching to play again, but that doesn't mean an injury can't be re-aggravated; especially when helmets are flying at his hands and DL, LB and DB's are ripping at the ball trying to jar it loose.All pre-season indications were that Bush would be the main back with McFadden in a COP role or there would be a committe approach. Due to Bush's injury, McFadden proved that he can be a great weapon when given the opportunity, but he's also hurt. Again. The Raiders don't care about any of our FF teams, and in all honesty the best thing the Raiders can do is likely rotate Bush and McFadden to limit the wear and tear on both of them.Yes. I think when McFadden is healthy from his injury, he will be the lead back much like the first few weeks. The Raiders got a sniff of what he could do, and it was damn good. They'll at least give him a chance to keep going with the hot hand. Remember that Bush didn't leech very many carries when he returned from injury, and I refuse to believe that the thumb injury was the primary reason for that low # of carries. All of the quotes from Bush indicated that he felt fine, and that he was itching to play again.I would imagine when McFadden returns, he will be in a RBBC with Bush, thus eliminating/reducing both RB's fantasy value. It was a nice 3-4 games for McFadden, but the ride is over, correct? Does anyone envision it playing out differently?
I agree with the first part of your opinion. But you're overthinking the broken finger of Bush. Low # of carries was because he was injured.Darren McFadden had the coming out party that most expected in his rookie year. Over his career, he has been constantly injured and he was surely frustrated by the nagging injuries. But now, management has seen the talent level of their #4 overall pick and it is as you say, “damn good”. McFadden has shown a combination of interior running moves and power that many thought he was incapable of just a few weeks ago. I think his situation is already defined by the work he has put in. The starting position is awaiting his healthy return, imho.From what I’ve heard, this hammy injury isn’t as bad as his previous one he had in camp. "Darren's statement was, it's not nearly like the one I had in camp. So, we'll see," Raiders coach Tom Cable said.As for Bush, his thumb injury is kind of a big deal. If he doesn’t let it heal right, it may never be the same. He really needed to stay inactive, but in a contract year, he’s been pushing to get playing time. This Sunday, the thumb wrapping will finally be off, and we’ll see him as a feature back. As a Raider fan, I hope he can cause a controversy and put together some of his monster games that he has had in the past. But I am skeptical, as the Raider’s offensive line is perhaps worse than previous years, (if that’s plausible). It’s incredible that McFadden was able to be that successful, given the tight holes and traffic he had to fight through. I doubt that Michael Bush has the lateral quickness to duplicate McFadden’s numbers. I’d love for him to prove me wrong, but he has to be favoring still the thumb, has to fight off some rust, and that thumb makes you worry that he may be a fumble machine. Full disclosure: I own both, (obviously). So I don’t care one way or the other, but I truly believe that nothing has changed, and McFadden comes back in a couple of weeks and Bush goes back to change of pace back.Yes. I think when McFadden is healthy from his injury, he will be the lead back much like the first few weeks. The Raiders got a sniff of what he could do, and it was damn good. They'll at least give him a chance to keep going with the hot hand. Remember that Bush didn't leech very many carries when he returned from injury, and I refuse to believe that the thumb injury was the primary reason for that low # of carries. All of the quotes from Bush indicated that he felt fine, and that he was itching to play again.I would imagine when McFadden returns, he will be in a RBBC with Bush, thus eliminating/reducing both RB's fantasy value. It was a nice 3-4 games for McFadden, but the ride is over, correct? Does anyone envision it playing out differently?