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McGahee to be possibly cut before season is over? (RUMOR) (1 Viewer)

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Mike Preston on his blog reports:

Harbaugh said he didn't know when injured running back Willis McGahee would return, and that McGahee might possibly miss the entire preseason. Somehow that doesn't surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens cut him before the season is over.

McGahee has angered a lot of Ravens officials over at the Castle with his poor work ethic. He doesn't know his plays so I don't see him playing much in the first regular-season game.

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Seems a little extreme to me. Especially since McGahee has said he will be back for the regular season opener. Looks a little more like reporter speculation vs actual team info.

 
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This type of idle speculation isn't going to make it any easier for me to get Ray Rice at a bargain. :shrug:

 
While you correctly noted that it was a rumor, even the rumor only mentions that he would be cut before the season was over, so it's not like even the rumor suggests he'll be cut anytime soon.

 
Dave Baker said:
While you correctly noted that it was a rumor, even the rumor only mentions that he would be cut before the season was over, so it's not like even the rumor suggests he'll be cut anytime soon.
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True, true. It is another piece of info in the Ray Rice/McGahee puzzle though.
 
mrspree15 said:
Mike Preston on his blog reports:

Harbaugh said he didn't know when injured running back Willis McGahee would return, and that McGahee might possibly miss the entire preseason. Somehow that doesn't surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens cut him before the season is over.

McGahee has angered a lot of Ravens officials over at the Castle with his poor work ethic. He doesn't know his plays so I don't see him playing much in the first regular-season game.

Ravens Insider

Seems a little extreme to me. Especially since McGahee has said he will be back for the regular season opener. Looks a little more like reporter speculation vs actual team info.
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Thank you mrspree,This is exactly how you should handle a story like this in the Shark Pool. This isn't someone's sister's cousin's boyfriend's frat brother saying McGahee is in the doghouse and wouldn't be surprised if they were cut before the season was over. This is Mike Preston from the Baltimore Sun. It is absolutely worth noting that Preston feels this way. One may disagree with Preston and that's cool. But when Mike Preston talks about the Ravens, he's a guy that I will listen to. Doesn't mean I'll agree with him. But I'll listen. Thanks for sharing.

J

 
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mrspree15 said:
Mike Preston on his blog reports:

Harbaugh said he didn't know when injured running back Willis McGahee would return, and that McGahee might possibly miss the entire preseason. Somehow that doesn't surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens cut him before the season is over.

McGahee has angered a lot of Ravens officials over at the Castle with his poor work ethic. He doesn't know his plays so I don't see him playing much in the first regular-season game.

Ravens Insider

Seems a little extreme to me. Especially since McGahee has said he will be back for the regular season opener. Looks a little more like reporter speculation vs actual team info.
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That would be ridiculously surprising.It is extremely rare that high priced players get cut mid-season. If he said that he, "Wouldn't be surprised if McGahee was relegated to backup before the season is over" that would be one thing but a player has to do something absolutely outrageous to hurt the team to get cut mid-season.

If he wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens decided to eat McGahee's contract for the season, hurt their depth at RB and rely on a rookie RB with very little at WR or QB you would think he would have something better to go on.

 
Joe Bryant said:
mrspree15 said:
Mike Preston on his blog reports:

Harbaugh said he didn't know when injured running back Willis McGahee would return, and that McGahee might possibly miss the entire preseason. Somehow that doesn't surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens cut him before the season is over.

McGahee has angered a lot of Ravens officials over at the Castle with his poor work ethic. He doesn't know his plays so I don't see him playing much in the first regular-season game.

Ravens Insider

Seems a little extreme to me. Especially since McGahee has said he will be back for the regular season opener. Looks a little more like reporter speculation vs actual team info.
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Thank you mrspree,This is exactly how you should handle a story like this in the Shark Pool. This isn't someone's sister's cousin's boyfriend's frat brother saying McGahee is in the doghouse and wouldn't be surprised if they were cut before the season was over. This is Mike Preston from the Baltimore Sun. It is absolutely worth noting that Preston feels this way. One may disagree with Preston and that's cool. But when Mike Preston talks about the Ravens, he's a guy that I will listen to. Doesn't mean I'll agree with him. But I'll listen. Thanks for sharing.

J
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Thanks for a nice perspective on this Joe. Starting to warm up to your insight - :goodposting:
 
:goodposting:

Hard to believe. I know he is a beat writer for the Baltimore Sun.....but McGahee is a workout warrior so physically I have no worries. But if he indeed is slacking on the play book I have some concerns.

Cut before the season is over?

Total BS.

 
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If all those reasons were true, they would have cut Kyle Boller a long time ago too. But he's still on the roster, so I'm guessing McGahee will continue to be a Raven as well.

 
I wouldn't even put this as a (RUMOR)... Subject line needs to be something along the lines of "Beat writer thinks McGahee could be cut"....

This is more about one guys dumb opinion then anything to do with McGahee or the Ravens.

 
yeah I doubt it happens either, but it worth making a mental note of and keeping an eye on. pretty sure i'll be watching Ray Rice a little closer though.

 
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When is the last time a well-known well-paid player coming off a season like Willis had in '07 without any significant injury or major attitude issues got cut sometime before the season was over?

 
gump said:
When is the last time a well-known well-paid player coming off a season like Willis had in '07 without any significant injury or major attitude issues got cut sometime before the season was over?
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Dude, if Brett Favre can be traded ANYTHING is possible....
 
mrspree15 said:
Mike Preston on his blog reports:

Harbaugh said he didn't know when injured running back Willis McGahee would return, and that McGahee might possibly miss the entire preseason. Somehow that doesn't surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens cut him before the season is over.

McGahee has angered a lot of Ravens officials over at the Castle with his poor work ethic. He doesn't know his plays so I don't see him playing much in the first regular-season game.

Ravens Insider

Seems a little extreme to me. Especially since McGahee has said he will be back for the regular season opener. Looks a little more like reporter speculation vs actual team info.
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Sounds an awful lot like the complaints about McGahee in Buffalo, and why they had no problem drafting Lynch and letting Willis go. Why is this board so damn quick to rip things? It wouldn't surprise me at all if Baltimore has tired of McGahee's act by now.
 
McGahee is featured in a interview on the Ravens website today. He says the scope went fine and he should be ready for the season opener.

 
I think the important message to get here is not whether or not Willis is likely to be cut or not, but there is a clear indication that he may not have the desire to put in the work to be great. Therefore he will only be around until his god given talent fades. Which with the injury compounding may not be that far off.

 
Fullback Fro said:
I think the important message to get here is not whether or not Willis is likely to be cut or not, but there is a clear indication that he may not have the desire to put in the work to be great. Therefore he will only be around until his god given talent fades. Which with the injury compounding may not be that far off.
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this has always been a knock on him. He changed his feathers slightly last year after the trade to the Ravens and it was a big deal that he showed up for the OTA's. When he was in Buff he apparently "worked out" in Miami and never came up for the OTA's. There were also rumors about him not knowing the playbook, etc. when he was in Buff but there are a lot of people that follow Buff closer than I that could back that stuff up.
 
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Fullback Fro said:
I think the important message to get here is not whether or not Willis is likely to be cut or not, but there is a clear indication that he may not have the desire to put in the work to be great. Therefore he will only be around until his god given talent fades. Which with the injury compounding may not be that far off.
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So considering that he obviously did put in the work when his leg folded like a lawnchair in college, are some presuming that he's lost his fire now that he's rich?
 
gump said:
Fullback Fro said:
I think the important message to get here is not whether or not Willis is likely to be cut or not, but there is a clear indication that he may not have the desire to put in the work to be great. Therefore he will only be around until his god given talent fades. Which with the injury compounding may not be that far off.
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So considering that he obviously did put in the work when his leg folded like a lawnchair in college, are some presuming that he's lost his fire now that he's rich?
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Not sure if your looking for an answer or not. But he's disenfranchised one team with his tude, and it looks like he well on his way with his second team. Are some presuming there is a pattern developing?
 
This is from the Ravens website:

McGahee, Heap Eye Week 1Injuries to Willis McGahee and Todd Heap may leave the Ravens without playmakers in preseason. by Mike DuffyAug 19, 2008, 3:44PM The third preseason contest is typically the game where starter see the majority of playing time together, but as the Ravens enter their matchup with the St. Louis Rams this weekend, they will be without two of their top offensive playmakers. Running back Willis McGahee and tight end Todd Heap will each be sidelined due to injuries. And while a few reps in Baltimore’s preseason finale would be an ideal warmup for the former Pro Bowlers, both players are eyeing a return Sept. 7, when the Cincinnati Bengals come to M&T Bank Stadium. Not having McGahee and Heap is causing the Ravens’ coaches to shift their thinking, instead plugging in players deeper on the depth chart.“The third game is the game you play your guys together as a group for the most plays,” head coach John Harbaugh said, “But, there are going to be certain individuals that may need to play more in the fourth game because they don’t play the third game, or maybe not. “We just have to deal with it case by case.”McGahee, who underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right knee last week, assured reporters that he would be prepared for the regular-season opener. “It’s always making progress. Every day I come out here and rehab, it’s just getting better,” he said, briefly stopping through the locker room in-between training room sessions.“I will be ready [for the regular season], but I don’t know about playing in the preseason. I think I should be [able to play in the preseason], but we have to wait and see.”Heap is also taking a cautious approach to his strained calf muscle after missing 10 games last season with off-and-on hamstring injuries. “I want to make sure it’s completely right,” noted Heap. “I definitely don’t want setbacks at this point. I want to be 100 percent healthy going into the first game.“I’m still learning. I definitely learned some lessons last year trying to battle a hamstring. You have to let it heal before you get out there, so you have to be smart about it.”
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.02 from a homer..

Mike Preston is a blow-hard who's writing style is always that the glass is half empty.

That doesn't mean that everything he says is nonsense. Just that, like any other source, you have to filter it.

What has been coming out in the local media the last few weeks is:

McGahee reported to camp out of shape and that he hasn't had his nose in the playbook. It has been reported that he has been having to ask the other players on the field what he is supposed to be doing. (This doesn't seem that odd to me as it is a new offense). The media says that the club is angry with him.

Everything coming from the coach is "McGahee is our starter", "The surgery was just a clean up procedure to have him 100 percent for the season", etc.

I would be shocked if he were cut.

Hope this helps.

 
BertJones said:
.02 from a homer..Mike Preston is a blow-hard who's writing style is always that the glass is half empty. That doesn't mean that everything he says is nonsense. Just that, like any other source, you have to filter it.What has been coming out in the local media the last few weeks is:McGahee reported to camp out of shape and that he hasn't had his nose in the playbook. It has been reported that he has been having to ask the other players on the field what he is supposed to be doing. (This doesn't seem that odd to me as it is a new offense). The media says that the club is angry with him.Everything coming from the coach is "McGahee is our starter", "The surgery was just a clean up procedure to have him 100 percent for the season", etc.I would be shocked if he were cut. Hope this helps.
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It looks like Willis played nice for a year after the trade and reverted back to his old self. It makes Rice a more interesting dynasty pick with Willis due a $6.5 mill roster bonus after this season....
 
Anyone who knows Baltimore sports knows that Mike Preston is an idiot who likes to throw things to the wall just to see what will stick, just so he can be the first to report it. 9 times out of 10 he's wrong and his opinions are for the most part controversial just to get people talking.

The Ravens would be idiots to let McGahee go this year. Ray Rice has shown good work ethic and is doing all the right things so far in camp but NO ONE knows how he will do this year. To speculate that the Ravens would get rid of their franchise back now because they have a capable RB on the bench is rediculous. The Ravens have a lot more problems this season then worrying about if their franchise RB will still be on the roster when the season is over.

The Ravens may not like the way McGahee does things, but if they were so upset with his attitude why did they acquire him. He's had the same crappy attitude since he was in college, now their surprised? He just does things his way and for the most part he has produced on the field. They need to give him some slack and let him do what he does.

 
North said:
Anyone who knows Baltimore sports knows that Mike Preston is an idiot who likes to throw things to the wall just to see what will stick, just so he can be the first to report it. 9 times out of 10 he's wrong and his opinions are for the most part controversial just to get people talking.

The Ravens would be idiots to let McGahee go this year. Ray Rice has shown good work ethic and is doing all the right things so far in camp but NO ONE knows how he will do this year. To speculate that the Ravens would get rid of their franchise back now because they have a capable RB on the bench is rediculous. The Ravens have a lot more problems this season then worrying about if their franchise RB will still be on the roster when the season is over.

The Ravens may not like the way McGahee does things, but if they were so upset with his attitude why did they acquire him. He's had the same crappy attitude since he was in college, now their surprised? He just does things his way and for the most part he has produced on the field. They need to give him some slack and let him do what he does.
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I agree with much of what you're saying but many teams, GMs and coaches can't resist a talented player and feel like they can turn a bad attitude around. Guys like Lawrence Philips, Chris Henry and Javon Walker get chance after chance.Edit to add: I'm not comparing McGahee's apparent lack of work ethic with some real bad apples, just siting examples of guys signed by teams who had a history of bad attitudes and the team then had a problem with their attitude.

 
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QUEZILLA said:
So Ronnie Brown & Willis McGahee are getting cut. :goodposting:
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No, Ronnie's getting traded. And Jonathan Stewart has been starting in Carolina since he was drafted, Antonio Bryant is going to be more valuable this year than Joey Galloway, Fargas is a better back than McFadden, Chris Johnson is going to start over LenDale White, Aaron Rodgers will have a better year than Brett Favre, Josh Cribbs is a better return man than Devin Hester, and Adrian Peterson will never have a year as successful as his rookie year.Did I miss anything?
 
kaso said:
I wouldn't even put this as a (RUMOR)... Subject line needs to be something along the lines of "Beat writer thinks McGahee could be cut"....This is more about one guys dumb opinion then anything to do with McGahee or the Ravens.
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I agree with kasodamn, why did I bump this :goodposting:
 
sholditch said:
QUEZILLA said:
So Ronnie Brown & Willis McGahee are getting cut. :popcorn:
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No, Ronnie's getting traded. And Jonathan Stewart has been starting in Carolina since he was drafted, Antonio Bryant is going to be more valuable this year than Joey Galloway, Fargas Michael Bush is a better back than McFadden, Chris Johnson is going to start over LenDale White, Aaron Rodgers will have a better year than Brett Favre, Josh Cribbs is a better return man than Devin Hester, and Adrian Peterson will never have a year as successful as his rookie year.Did I miss anything?
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:rolleyes: It's Michael Bush over McFadden, not Fargas. You also forgot Slaton getting the most yards in Houston. And don't forget that Pierre Thomas will be the only guy playing RB for the Saints by the end of the season....What have I told you about getting your info straight....

;)

 
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Looks like Baltimore is finding out what we Bills fans did: that Willis is a dude who has loads of talent, but no work ethic.

Willis didn't even bother to learn the play book in his last years in Buffalo - the Bills had a coach devoted to motioning to Willis what he should do on each play. Unsurprisingly, he would run the wrong way or just flat out fail to pick up a blitzer when he needed to.

He seems to only be motivated when being in a new situation. Perhaps he should be traded to a new team each year.

 
FWIW, Adam Caplan speculated months ago that the Ravens might look to make this a Thomas Jones/Cedric Benson situation, meaning he thought they might try to ride McGahee for one year and then trade him for whatever they could get.

 
If anything, I'll use the link to inform the McGahee owner in my league and see how bad he wants to handcuff Rice to his team. I'm all for leverage since I have Rice on my roster.

 
Fullback Fro said:
I think the important message to get here is not whether or not Willis is likely to be cut or not, but there is a clear indication that he may not have the desire to put in the work to be great. Therefore he will only be around until his god given talent fades. Which with the injury compounding may not be that far off.
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:goodposting: The coaches keep saying the right things, but the rumors are still persisting that they're not happy with his work ethic. They don't feel that he was in top shape and he certainly hasn't learned the playbook. They're not cutting him, but I think that Rice's playing time could be a whole lot more than what they're letting on. If people want to keep shutting their eyes and ignoring the situation, that's a mistake IMO.
 
sholditch said:
QUEZILLA said:
So Ronnie Brown & Willis McGahee are getting cut. :lmao:
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No, Ronnie's getting traded. And Jonathan Stewart has been starting in Carolina since he was drafted, Antonio Bryant is going to be more valuable this year than Joey Galloway, Fargas is a better back than McFadden, Chris Johnson is going to start over LenDale White, Aaron Rodgers will have a better year than Brett Favre, Josh Cribbs is a better return man than Devin Hester, and Adrian Peterson will never have a year as successful as his rookie year.Did I miss anything?
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:own3d:
 
bucsbaby said:
sholditch said:
QUEZILLA said:
So Ronnie Brown & Willis McGahee are getting cut. :lmao:
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No, Ronnie's getting traded. And Jonathan Stewart has been starting in Carolina since he was drafted, Antonio Bryant is going to be more valuable this year than Joey Galloway, Fargas is a better back than McFadden, Chris Johnson is going to start over LenDale White, Aaron Rodgers will have a better year than Brett Favre, Josh Cribbs is a better return man than Devin Hester, and Adrian Peterson will never have a year as successful as his rookie year.Did I miss anything?
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:own3d:
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Almost a good post
 
sholditch said:
QUEZILLA said:
So Ronnie Brown & Willis McGahee are getting cut. :own3d:
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No, Ronnie's getting traded. And Jonathan Stewart has been starting in Carolina since he was drafted, Antonio Bryant is going to be more valuable this year than Joey Galloway, Fargas is a better back than McFadden, Chris Johnson is going to start over LenDale White, Aaron Rodgers will have a better year than Brett Favre, Josh Cribbs is a better return man than Devin Hester, and Adrian Peterson will never have a year as successful as his rookie year.Did I miss anything?
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Well, there was the rumor last year that Ryan Grant was looking better than his much more highly valued competition. There was the rumor that Shaun Alexander was going to be cut a year and a half removed from an MVP season. There was the rumor that Wes Welker was looking really good in practice and might be more valuable than Donte Stallworth in 2007. There was the rumor this year that Favre was interested in un-retiring followed by the rumor he was going to be traded to the Jets. There was a rumor a couple of years that TO was going to be DE-ACTIVATED by the Eagles for more than half a season when he was probably the best player on the team and their only decent receiver. Whole BUNCH of crazy rumors out there.Point is, crazy stuff happens, and the casual fan is almost never privy to the real deal. Some of the rumors are more outrageous than others, but quite a few of them have at least a seed of truth in them.
 
North said:
Anyone who knows Baltimore sports knows that Mike Preston is an idiot who likes to throw things to the wall just to see what will stick, just so he can be the first to report it. 9 times out of 10 he's wrong and his opinions are for the most part controversial just to get people talking.
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Indeed, Preston likes to be "out there" with his opinions and I've never been a fan of his opinions or writing style. Not to pick nits with other posters, but he is a general sports columnist and NOT the Ravens beat writer for the Sun.
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Well, there was the rumor last year that Ryan Grant was looking better than his much more highly valued competition. There was the rumor that Shaun Alexander was going to be cut a year and a half removed from an MVP season. There was the rumor that Wes Welker was looking really good in practice and might be more valuable than Donte Stallworth in 2007. There was the rumor this year that Favre was interested in un-retiring followed by the rumor he was going to be traded to the Jets. There was a rumor a couple of years that TO was going to be DE-ACTIVATED by the Eagles for more than half a season when he was probably the best player on the team and their only decent receiver. Whole BUNCH of crazy rumors out there.Point is, crazy stuff happens, and the casual fan is almost never privy to the real deal. Some of the rumors are more outrageous than others, but quite a few of them have at least a seed of truth in them.
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Having said what I did about Preston, the above is still a very true statement. While I think it unlikely, Willis has no real history here in Baltimore and the emotional bindings aren't very tight. If the organization (with a new head coach) decided to move quickly in a new direction, well, like Schneikes says, we've all seen crazier things happen.
 
Don't think McGahee gets cut but not being shape, poor work etic on studing playbook, minor injury = more playing time for Rice so Ravens can be sure of what they have after this season. I can see it being a 50/50 split at RB by season end.

 
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