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McNabb to be benched? (1 Viewer)

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News: The Redskins were considering the idea of changing quarterbacks in-game before playing vs. the Bucs in Week 14. Now they're considering a change before their Week 15 game actually starts. Rex Grossman could be named the team's starter this week in advance of their matchup at Dallas, reports ESPN. Multiple reports have either confirmed the rumor or have a source that says a change involving Grossman and Donovan McNabb is not planned. Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan could name his starting quarterback on Wednesday.
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As a chicago fan who has been through the Grossman debacle, I feel bad for the Skins.. didn't they just give McNabb a bunch of money?

 
two_dollars said:
As a chicago fan who has been through the Grossman debacle, I feel bad for the Skins.. didn't they just give McNabb a bunch of money?
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It's actually only guaranteed if they pick up a $10M roster bonus option this offseason. I think this says they are strongly considering not doing so.
 
If Grossman's named the Skins starter, then the Cowboys defense takes a nice bump, and Jacksonville's D for thier home week 16 matchup could well be tasty as well.

 
Carter_Can_Fly said:
McNabb although not a bad QB was made to seem way better than he actually is/was in Reid's passer friendly system.
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Of course everyone in Philly was saying that for years but we are ignored by the national media because they think we are just hard to please. I guess we see how things really are now. I respect Mcnabb and a lot of the Redskins problems are not his fault but as you can see by watching him. He has a lot of faults and can't get by on sheer athleticism as he did when he was younger and in better shape.With that said, and as much as I'd love to start Dallas' D this week against Rex, I don't see what this move accomplishes. You already know what Grossman is and what he can do. He's not better than Mcnabb, he won't be your starter next year and you have a big money decision to make on Mcnabb this offseason. Why not keep Mcnabb in and continue to evaluate? It's the Redskins though so this makes perfect sense.
 
tonyftony716 said:
Carter_Can_Fly said:
McNabb although not a bad QB was made to seem way better than he actually is/was in Reid's passer friendly system.
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Of course everyone in Philly was saying that for years but we are ignored by the national media because they think we are just hard to please. I guess we see how things really are now.

I respect Mcnabb and a lot of the Redskins problems are not his fault but as you can see by watching him. He has a lot of faults and can't get by on sheer athleticism as he did when he was younger and in better shape.

With that said, and as much as I'd love to start Dallas' D this week against Rex, I don't see what this move accomplishes. You already know what Grossman is and what he can do. He's not better than Mcnabb, he won't be your starter next year and you have a big money decision to make on Mcnabb this offseason. Why not keep Mcnabb in and continue to evaluate?

It's the Redskins though so this makes perfect sense.
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The writing is on the wall I think as Shanny has seen enough to know that he is not a long term answer for them and the direction this team will be heading going forward. Perhpas they want to see what they have in Grossman as to know whether or not he is worth anything as the back up heading into next year.
 
Carter_Can_Fly said:
tonyftony716 said:
Carter_Can_Fly said:
McNabb although not a bad QB was made to seem way better than he actually is/was in Reid's passer friendly system.
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Of course everyone in Philly was saying that for years but we are ignored by the national media because they think we are just hard to please. I guess we see how things really are now.

I respect Mcnabb and a lot of the Redskins problems are not his fault but as you can see by watching him. He has a lot of faults and can't get by on sheer athleticism as he did when he was younger and in better shape.

With that said, and as much as I'd love to start Dallas' D this week against Rex, I don't see what this move accomplishes. You already know what Grossman is and what he can do. He's not better than Mcnabb, he won't be your starter next year and you have a big money decision to make on Mcnabb this offseason. Why not keep Mcnabb in and continue to evaluate?

It's the Redskins though so this makes perfect sense.
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The writing is on the wall I think as Shanny has seen enough to know that he is not a long term answer for them and the direction this team will be heading going forward. Perhpas they want to see what they have in Grossman as to know whether or not he is worth anything as the back up heading into next year.
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They may want to keep Rex cheap and draft a QB for the future using Rex as the bridge. It actually makes some sense in that light. I agree that this says McNabb is as good as gone in Washington this offseason though.
 
Mainevent said:
Carter_Can_Fly said:
Perhpas they want to see what they have in Grossman as to know whether or not he is worth anything as the back up heading into next year.
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Hopeful Grossman owner. :lmao:
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Yes, I am being extremely "hopeful" that Grossman is going to have some sort of magical season next year and take the fantasy world over by storm next year :lmao: I clearly stated that the Redskins may be looking to see what they have as Grossman next year to see if he is worth brining back as the back up.
 
I'm glad if McNabb is benched. I want the Skins to lose all their remaining games for a better draft pick. Starting Grossman all but guarantees that doesn't it? :goodposting:

 
Starting Grossman is conceding the game before it starts. Watching this as a Kitna owner. If Grossman starts I am benching Kitna for Collins.

 
Kwai Chang Caine said:
How will this move affect Torrain?
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A lot like replacing your car's tires with concrete blocks affects the car. Grossman going in brings everyone down with him, including the defense.If they start Grossman I don't know why anyone would even come out to watch the game. Or turn on the tv.
 
tonyftony716 said:
Carter_Can_Fly said:
McNabb although not a bad QB was made to seem way better than he actually is/was in Reid's passer friendly system.
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Of course everyone in Philly was saying that for years but we are ignored by the national media because they think we are just hard to please. I guess we see how things really are now. I respect Mcnabb and a lot of the Redskins problems are not his fault but as you can see by watching him. He has a lot of faults and can't get by on sheer athleticism as he did when he was younger and in better shape.With that said, and as much as I'd love to start Dallas' D this week against Rex, I don't see what this move accomplishes. You already know what Grossman is and what he can do. He's not better than Mcnabb, he won't be your starter next year and you have a big money decision to make on Mcnabb this offseason. Why not keep Mcnabb in and continue to evaluate? It's the Redskins though so this makes perfect sense.
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+1The Philly fans have criticized Mcnabb for years over two minute drills, not being a leader, being out of shape, not being clutch, being inconsistent....for years the national media just blamed it on grumpy philly fans. Deion Sanders said this was the worst trade ever to the Redskins. Now Redskins fans say the same thing about Mcnabb Eagles fans were criticized for saying for years.
 
I thought Mcnabb got a HUGE contract for 4 years? Like 18mil guaranteed or something? Am I wrong? Who makes these kinds of decisions???

 
To Skins fans, is the fact that they are even talking about this a sign of quitting on the season? It sure seems to be. If that's the case can we expect them to basically lay down for the Cowboys this weekend, or is the old rivalry enough for a full out effort as long as they start McNabb?

If they start Grossman I don't think any motivation in the world is enough to convince them that the team is actually committed to winning, so I think a Grossman start means the D will fold early and the Boys will win it on the ground, 24-3.

 
mcnabbmcnow said:
tonyftony716 said:
Carter_Can_Fly said:
McNabb although not a bad QB was made to seem way better than he actually is/was in Reid's passer friendly system.
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Of course everyone in Philly was saying that for years but we are ignored by the national media because they think we are just hard to please. I guess we see how things really are now. I respect Mcnabb and a lot of the Redskins problems are not his fault but as you can see by watching him. He has a lot of faults and can't get by on sheer athleticism as he did when he was younger and in better shape.With that said, and as much as I'd love to start Dallas' D this week against Rex, I don't see what this move accomplishes. You already know what Grossman is and what he can do. He's not better than Mcnabb, he won't be your starter next year and you have a big money decision to make on Mcnabb this offseason. Why not keep Mcnabb in and continue to evaluate? It's the Redskins though so this makes perfect sense.
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+1The Philly fans have criticized Mcnabb for years over two minute drills, not being a leader, being out of shape, not being clutch, being inconsistent....for years the national media just blamed it on grumpy philly fans. Deion Sanders said this was the worst trade ever to the Redskins. Now Redskins fans say the same thing about Mcnabb Eagles fans were criticized for saying for years.
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McNabb was booed at the Wizards game last night by thousands of fans. I want to see if that's mentioned by the national media for the next decade. He was booed by 30 fans who wanted to hear the name "Ricky Williams" but that won't seem to die 11 years later.
 
Did he have a bad game against the Bucs or somethin? I didn't watch it, but his stats were good, his passer rating was 100 I believe. And if I were McNabb, I'd leave WAS and never look back. There's only so much you can do with no receivers or o-line. They can't even get a PAT off.. :)

 
LMAO like grossman is going to fair any better behind that Oline with sketchy run game and who??? type WRs....Rat face & son have to be on their way out

 
Steel Town said:
Is this speculation, or has Shanny named Grossman the starter?
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As of now it's speculation....But this late in the week and Shanny still hasn't committed to a starter and Grossman and McNabb are splitting first team reps. I don't get the Redskins. They embarass McNabb with the game on the line when the pulled him in the 4th quarter of an earlier loss. Then they offer up something like 10 million in guaranteed money. It looks like they are trying to make amends and now they start a QB controversy after the season is already lost. What is the point of all this?
 
Dr. Octopus said:
News: The Redskins were considering the idea of changing quarterbacks in-game before playing vs. the Bucs in Week 14. Now they're considering a change before their Week 15 game actually starts. Rex Grossman could be named the team's starter this week in advance of their matchup at Dallas, reports ESPN. Multiple reports have either confirmed the rumor or have a source that says a change involving Grossman and Donovan McNabb is not planned. Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan could name his starting quarterback on Wednesday.
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The same anonymous sources who started the front-office leaks earlier in the year about the Redskins being unhappy with McNabb. Then the Redskins gave McNabb a new contract.
 
Raiderfan32904 said:
But this late in the week and Shanny still hasn't committed to a starter and Grossman and McNabb are splitting first team reps. I don't get the Redskins. They embarass McNabb with the game on the line when the pulled him in the 4th quarter of an earlier loss. Then they offer up something like 10 million in guaranteed money. It looks like they are trying to make amends and now they start a QB controversy after the season is already lost. What is the point of all this?
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There really is no point, except Shanahan trying to show he has a big ****.
 
Steel Town said:
Is this speculation, or has Shanny named Grossman the starter?
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Wouldn't it be just great if Shanny began switching his QB's just like he does his RB's?

>>>>>>It was cold out here at Redskins Park today. It was so cold that the Redskins were forced to practice on artificial turf, as the three grass fields at Ashburn were frozen. But things heated up later in the afternoon as the assembled media tried to pin down Mike Shanahan as to whether he was fully committed to Donovan McNabb as his starting quarterback.

"I don't go through the starting lineups," Shanahan said. "I've told you guys that before." At one point, so many variations on the McNabb question were asked that, during a pause in the questioning, Shanahan asked, "Would anyone else like to ask the same question a different way?"<<<

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-skins/2010/12...ctice-6033.html

Ok, coach, the starting QB isn't exactly open to debate, pretty sure you can answer that one.

But:

>>>>>“There’s no difference this week than last week, so there’s nothing really to talk about, [Kyle] Shanahan said. “We’ve prepared this week the same as we did last week.”

Shanahan said that contrary to reports, backup Rex Grossman hasn’t received an increased workload in practice over the course of the last two weeks as preparation to take McNabb's job.

"No. It's the same as always," Shanahan said of Grossman's reps in practice.<<<

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-skins/2010/12...raise-6098.html

Glazer and Mortensen report Grossman gets "half" the snaps in practice. The Skins do that every week? Do they really? That seems hard to believe. Kyle Shanahan sounds hard to believe.

 
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Really no other way to look at it. Glad I dropped Kitna for Collins. The Boys are going to roll ovr the Skins this weekend. Guess the rivalry doesn't mean much either.

 
Clifford said:
Starting Grossman is conceding the game before it starts. Watching this as a Kitna owner. If Grossman starts I am benching Kitna for Collins.
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I am kinda worried too. DAL is just gonna run the ball, kinda like SD did in the 4th quarter last night. Not that they would bench Kitna right :nerd:
 
McNabb is benched, it is all but comfirmed by Shanny.

Rotoworld:

Kelli Johnson of CSN Washington is reporting that Rex Grossman will start over Donovan McNabb at Dallas on Sunday. The Washington Post confirms the report.

Per Johnson, the Redskins' locker room is divided and some players are "extremely upset." Essentially, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan lied through his teeth Thursday when he denied that Grossman's snaps have increased. Kyle has never been won over by McNabb, bothered by his scattershot accuracy and uneven grip on the offense. While that is understandable, it's unfathomable to us that the Shanahans believe Grossman gives their team a better chance to win. Quite simply, he doesn't.

So wtf do we do, I've got Moss, but now his situation seems pretty bad. I hate Shanahan. How about you guys, are you benching Moss, Cooley?

 
Thomsen said:
McNabb is benched, it is all but comfirmed by Shanny.

Rotoworld:

Kelli Johnson of CSN Washington is reporting that Rex Grossman will start over Donovan McNabb at Dallas on Sunday. The Washington Post confirms the report.

Per Johnson, the Redskins' locker room is divided and some players are "extremely upset." Essentially, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan lied through his teeth Thursday when he denied that Grossman's snaps have increased. Kyle has never been won over by McNabb, bothered by his scattershot accuracy and uneven grip on the offense. While that is understandable, it's unfathomable to us that the Shanahans believe Grossman gives their team a better chance to win. Quite simply, he doesn't.

So wtf do we do, I've got Moss, but now his situation seems pretty bad. I hate Shanahan. How about you guys, are you benching Moss, Cooley?
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Grossman made a ton of bone headed plays in the past, but people are acting like he can't throw at all. He was able to put up some numbers in the past as well.
 
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