McNabb to the Niners (1 Viewer)

[drdgreenlove]

I think this is a perfect trade for both teams...

I am an eagles homer.. and I think McNabb is wearing out his welcome.. I guess the season isnt over.. but really McNabb hasn't played great the last 6 weeks.. We've won but often not because of him... We have Kolb who I think Reid believes in and may be better or as good in this offense (then again he oculd stink too, what do I know?

Anyhow, the Niners are close... give them a real QB this season and they would be in the playoffs. Put McNabb there with Gore and Crabtree and Davis.. and I think the niners are one of the better teams

The Niners have two first rounders next year...

So why Not the trade Donovan for Niners or Panthers pick 1st round pick (whichever is a beter pick) plus another pick (2-4 round) for McNabb?

The Eagles can then use the pick on defense which is clearly a need.. walk away from the draft with 4 high draft picks all on the defensive side of the ball.... and roll next season with a kolb/desea/maclin/mccoy/celek offense

What do Niner fans think? Sound like a good deal?

 

[cobalt_27]

I think this is a perfect trade for both teams...

I am an eagles homer.. and I think McNabb is wearing out his welcome.. I guess the season isnt over.. but really McNabb hasn't played great the last 6 weeks.. We've won but often not because of him... We have Kolb who I think Reid believes in and may be better or as good in this offense (then again he oculd stink too, what do I know?

Anyhow, the Niners are close... give them a real QB this season and they would be in the playoffs. Put McNabb there with Gore and Crabtree and Davis.. and I think the niners are one of the better teams

The Niners have two first rounders next year...

So why Not the trade Donovan for Niners or Panthers pick 1st round pick (whichever is a beter pick) plus another pick (2-4 round) for McNabb?

The Eagles can then use the pick on defense which is clearly a need.. walk away from the draft with 4 high draft picks all on the defensive side of the ball.... and roll next season with a kolb/desea/maclin/mccoy/celek offense

What do Niner fans think? Sound like a good deal?

What on earth does this guy have to do to make any of you guys satisfied?Further evidence that Philly absolutely has worst fans in pro sports. Hands down, and it's not even close.

 

[morris4903]

I'm a Niner fan and I would hate this move.

 

[dickey moe]

I'm a Niner fan and I would hate this move.

Why?

 

[drdgreenlove]

I think this is a perfect trade for both teams...

I am an eagles homer.. and I think McNabb is wearing out his welcome.. I guess the season isnt over.. but really McNabb hasn't played great the last 6 weeks.. We've won but often not because of him... We have Kolb who I think Reid believes in and may be better or as good in this offense (then again he oculd stink too, what do I know?

Anyhow, the Niners are close... give them a real QB this season and they would be in the playoffs. Put McNabb there with Gore and Crabtree and Davis.. and I think the niners are one of the better teams

The Niners have two first rounders next year...

So why Not the trade Donovan for Niners or Panthers pick 1st round pick (whichever is a beter pick) plus another pick (2-4 round) for McNabb?

The Eagles can then use the pick on defense which is clearly a need.. walk away from the draft with 4 high draft picks all on the defensive side of the ball.... and roll next season with a kolb/desea/maclin/mccoy/celek offense

What do Niner fans think? Sound like a good deal?

What on earth does this guy have to do to make any of you guys satisfied?Further evidence that Philly absolutely has worst fans in pro sports. Hands down, and it's not even close.

'He has to win a SuperBowl... not to much to ask given how close we have consistently beenI assume you dont watch all of his games.. if you did you would see him miss open receivers, throw bounce passes, and have poor clock management. But you probably just look at the boxscore I'm guessing

EDIT TO ADD- Why would the Niners want him them? They have no hope at QB.. if they draft one, it delays success by 3-4 years and by then Gore is done... McNabb is a top 10 QB (despite his flaws) and would be a major upgrade. Philly does the trade because they believe in Kolb, need to reload on D, and have so many young weapons that they can wait a year or two if Kolb stinks

 

[TLEF316]

unless mcnabb wins a super bowl, nothing will be good enough for Philly fans.

They'll boo him right out of town at some point.

 

[perry147]

I think this is a perfect trade for both teams...I am an eagles homer.. and I think McNabb is wearing out his welcome.. I guess the season isnt over.. but really McNabb hasn't played great the last 6 weeks.. We've won but often not because of him... We have Kolb who I think Reid believes in and may be better or as good in this offense (then again he oculd stink too, what do I know? Anyhow, the Niners are close... give them a real QB this season and they would be in the playoffs. Put McNabb there with Gore and Crabtree and Davis.. and I think the niners are one of the better teamsThe Niners have two first rounders next year...So why Not the trade Donovan for Niners or Panthers pick 1st round pick (whichever is a beter pick) plus another pick (2-4 round) for McNabb?The Eagles can then use the pick on defense which is clearly a need.. walk away from the draft with 4 high draft picks all on the defensive side of the ball.... and roll next season with a kolb/desea/maclin/mccoy/celek offenseWhat do Niner fans think? Sound like a good deal?

McNabb is not appreciated enough in Philly. I hope he goes elsewhere also. The Seahawks would be a nice fit.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Kolb is the one getting traded. Already several teams are in discussions and kicking tires for the off season.

 

[morris4903]

Kolb is the one getting traded. Already several teams are in discussions and kicking tires for the off season.

I would rather have Kolb at this point.

 

[RUSF18]

Niners aren't going to use a 1st for a QB, either in FA or by trade. Likely will grab an OL and a CB.

 

[cobalt_27]

I assume you dont watch all of his games.. if you did you would see him miss open receivers, throw bounce passes, and have poor clock management. But you probably just look at the boxscore I'm guessing

You guessed wrong. You just can't help yourself for wanting to get rid of a HOF QB who is one of the winningest QBs of his era. As a Philly fan, it's sort of in your DNA. Besides, they're not trading McNabb to the Niners, so it's a pretty stupid hypothetical, anyway.

 

[drdgreenlove]

Niners aren't going to use a 1st for a QB, either in FA or by trade. Likely will grab an OL and a CB.

Only FA worth anything is Jason Campbell...So then this trade makes sense possibly, no?

 

[jasvic]

Well this nonsense popped up faster than I thought it would.

Should be noted, the views and opinions of the OP are not representative of every Eagles fan. Entire team #### the bed today so far.

 

[cobalt_27]

Niners aren't going to use a 1st for a QB, either in FA or by trade. Likely will grab an OL and a CB.

Only FA worth anything is Jason Campbell...So then this trade makes sense possibly, no?

No.

 

[morris4903]

I'm a Niner fan and I would hate this move.

Why?

I would rather give Alex Smith another year than trade two high picks for a 34 year QB who has played in the same system is entire career and then would have to learn a whole new system. I would rather have Kolb.

 

[cobalt_27]

Well this nonsense popped up faster than I thought it would.Should be noted, the views and opinions of the OP are not representative of every Eagles fan. Entire team #### the bed today so far.

I hear ya. Definitely not all Philly fans are complete dooshes. But, it does seem that an inordinate number of fans in that city throw out ridiculous speculations/hypotheses/pleas like this one, showing a complete lack of common sense. Or even loyalty to their guys. McNabb's been a warrior. And, he gets this sort of treatment. It's so lame.

 

[RUSF18]

Niners aren't going to use a 1st for a QB, either in FA or by trade. Likely will grab an OL and a CB.

Only FA worth anything is Jason Campbell...So then this trade makes sense possibly, no?

Sorry, I typed the wrong word quickly...meant that they wouldn't use a 1st either by a draft pick or trading one for a QB.

 

[Slider]

I assume you dont watch all of his games.. if you did you would see him miss open receivers, throw bounce passes, and have poor clock management. But you probably just look at the boxscore I'm guessing

You guessed wrong. You just can't help yourself for wanting to get rid of a HOF QB who is one of the winningest QBs of his era. As a Philly fan, it's sort of in your DNA. Besides, they're not trading McNabb to the Niners, so it's a pretty stupid hypothetical, anyway.

HOF? Really? Btw, hope you do good at band camp next year.

 

[shadyridr]

Philly fans are so ####in spoiled with this guy Never seen any fanbase wanna trade a franchise QB every year

PS: OK maybe dumb Yankee fans that wanted ARod run out of town

 

[comfortably numb]

I agree, needs to happen, if not SF, then anywhere.

You guys just don't deserve him.

 

[Slider]

You guys clearly aren't Eagle fans and don't watch the games. In the biggest of games he comes up so lame. It's the reason we don't have a Superbowl or two. He's not in the 4,000 yard club and is a leader that caves and pukes. He's clearly average.

 

[CaptainHook]

lol you guys can have him.

He's a mediocre QB who achieved undeserved stardom by playing on teams with great OLines and D's

 

[drdgreenlove]

Well this nonsense popped up faster than I thought it would.Should be noted, the views and opinions of the OP are not representative of every Eagles fan. Entire team #### the bed today so far.

I hear ya. Definitely not all Philly fans are complete dooshes. But, it does seem that an inordinate number of fans in that city throw out ridiculous speculations/hypotheses/pleas like this one, showing a complete lack of common sense. Or even loyalty to their guys. McNabb's been a warrior. And, he gets this sort of treatment. It's so lame.

whatev1) At present he is a borderline HOF QB... he is not Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or Big ben.. He is a very good QB who has failed consistently in big games.. and then when he does throws everyone under the bus and never takes blame for his failures2) How do you know who they are trading him to? Word is McNabb declined last off-season to sign a long term deal (so they only redid his last two years)... If the Eagles lose next week in the Wild Card, I think he is gone assuming they can make a trade that satisfies the Eagles Front Office.3) I dont disagree he is one of the winningest QB of his era.. except he has won only one NFC Championship Game and Zero superbowls.. not acceptable4) The Eales really like Kolb.. and he played pretty well this year in his starts5) Wanting to trade a position of strength to improve other areas is actually logical. It depends on what Kolb becomes.. The defense has been bad all year.. There are a lot of holes that need to be filled.. So trading for draft picks makes sense. Either McNabb or Kolb will probably be traded... 6) Eagles fans have loyalty to the guys they like. The city was heart-broken when Dawkins left... Donovan has never been beloved again due to his lack of clutch performance and quirky personalityMost importantly, tell me why this isnt a good trade for both teams.... Niners need a QB, Eagles may want to move on....Saying that we don't deserve him is silly.. Again unless you watch him every week throw bounce passes, smile after incompletions where he misses his WRs, can't run a 2 minute offense etc.. he may appear to be a top QB. But when you see his game, his flaws are quite obvious... YEs we are losing today due to multiple reasons. And we lost to Arizona for multiple reasons last year. But.. McNabb doesnt take over a game like the legends do... He also is not as quick and elusive as he once was... he has gained too much weight and is older and is either unable to afraid to scramble. He can't even convert 4th and inches reliably.This is not the best QB of the era.. far from it.. In 15 years, we will look at Favre, Manning, Brady, big Ben, Warner, and possibly Rivers as better QBs. He is the best Eagles QB ever.. but for a city that has never won a Super Bowl.. and has very few championships in all sports.. being close every year isnt enough.

 

[cobalt_27]

I assume you dont watch all of his games.. if you did you would see him miss open receivers, throw bounce passes, and have poor clock management. But you probably just look at the boxscore I'm guessing

You guessed wrong. You just can't help yourself for wanting to get rid of a HOF QB who is one of the winningest QBs of his era. As a Philly fan, it's sort of in your DNA. Besides, they're not trading McNabb to the Niners, so it's a pretty stupid hypothetical, anyway.

HOF? Really? Btw, hope you do good at band camp next year.

If Jim Kelly is in the HOF, yes.

 

[jojoh07]

Ughhh not this #$%^ again.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I assume you dont watch all of his games.. if you did you would see him miss open receivers, throw bounce passes, and have poor clock management. But you probably just look at the boxscore I'm guessing

You guessed wrong. You just can't help yourself for wanting to get rid of a HOF QB who is one of the winningest QBs of his era. As a Philly fan, it's sort of in your DNA. Besides, they're not trading McNabb to the Niners, so it's a pretty stupid hypothetical, anyway.

HOF? Really? Btw, hope you do good at band camp next year.

well, he has played in 4 or 5 NFC Championships... won 2 of them. A Super bowl be a nice finish to it all.

 

[Mulletzilla]

Well this nonsense popped up faster than I thought it would.Should be noted, the views and opinions of the OP are not representative of every Eagles fan. Entire team #### the bed today so far.

I hear ya. Definitely not all Philly fans are complete dooshes. But, it does seem that an inordinate number of fans in that city throw out ridiculous speculations/hypotheses/pleas like this one, showing a complete lack of common sense. Or even loyalty to their guys. McNabb's been a warrior. And, he gets this sort of treatment. It's so lame.

Not sure if it's an inordinate number, or just the loudest. There are fans (I am one) who appreciate everything this guy does. Yes he missed receivers and throws balls in the ground, but what about the plays where he avoids the rush, extends the play to hit Desean for a 50 yd TD. Guess we;ll just ignore those.I forget the poster, but someone in the McNabb thread called this...the McNabb haters have been hiding during the 6 game win streak, only to pop up with ridiculous propositions like this when he has a poor game.

 

[cobalt_27]

I assume you dont watch all of his games.. if you did you would see him miss open receivers, throw bounce passes, and have poor clock management. But you probably just look at the boxscore I'm guessing

You guessed wrong. You just can't help yourself for wanting to get rid of a HOF QB who is one of the winningest QBs of his era. As a Philly fan, it's sort of in your DNA. Besides, they're not trading McNabb to the Niners, so it's a pretty stupid hypothetical, anyway.

HOF? Really? Btw, hope you do good at band camp next year.

well, he has played in 4 or 5 NFC Championships... won 2 of them. A Super bowl be a nice finish to it all.

Which was the case for Jim Kelly, who also was a 5 time Pro Bowler, like McNabb. I think McNabb should get in the HOF for having to deal with idiotic, ungrateful Philly fans his entire career.

 

[Avery]

Well this nonsense popped up faster than I thought it would.

Should be noted, the views and opinions of the OP are not representative of every Eagles fan. Entire team #### the bed today so far.

I hear ya. Definitely not all Philly fans are complete dooshes. But, it does seem that an inordinate number of fans in that city throw out ridiculous speculations/hypotheses/pleas like this one, showing a complete lack of common sense. Or even loyalty to their guys. McNabb's been a warrior. And, he gets this sort of treatment. It's so lame.

3) I dont disagree he is one of the winningest QB of his era.. except he has won only one NFC Championship Game and Zero superbowls.. not acceptable

If only football was a team sport so it wouldn't be so obvious where all the blame lay.

 

[CaptainHook]

Why do people give him all the credit for being one of the winningest quarterbacks if they aren't going to then blame him for being 1-4 and god awful in nfc championship games

 

[JuniorNB]

Philly fans are so ####in spoiled with this guy Never seen any fanbase wanna trade a franchise QB every yearPS: OK maybe dumb Yankee fans that wanted ARod run out of town

Philly fans also booed Mike Schmidt towards the end of his career. Worst fanbase BY FAR in the country. Just terrible. I'm often ashamed of being a Philly fan.

 

[cobalt_27]

Philly fans are so ####in spoiled with this guy Never seen any fanbase wanna trade a franchise QB every yearPS: OK maybe dumb Yankee fans that wanted ARod run out of town

Philly fans also booed Mike Schmidt towards the end of his career. Worst fanbase BY FAR in the country. Just terrible. I'm often ashamed of being a Philly fan.

I understand booing Santa Claus. I understand cheering when Michael Irvin lay motionless on the carpet. I understand drunken ingrates throwing batteries all over the place. It's all so stupid, but I get it.But, booing Mike Schmidt is the dumbest thing any fanbase has ever done.

 

[drdgreenlove]

EVERYBODY

PLEASE ONLY COMMENT ON IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD TRADE FROM THE NINERS PERSEPECTIVE.. or THE EAGLES (IF THE TEAM LIKES KOLB)

IS IT FAIR? WOULD THE NINERS BE INTERESTED

IF YOU WANT TO TRASH PHILLY FANS START YOUR OWN THREAD

IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE MCNABBS CAREER FURTHER START YOUR OWN THREAD

Again, this is based on the premise that the Eagles do not advance far this post-season.. and Reid thinks Kolb is a starting QB he can trust. If both of these are true, and a decison is made to trade McNabb, then I think this is a win win for both teams

thank you

 

[drummer]

The 49ers are on a suicide mission with Smith. They're happy where they are at. Even with Jimmy Raye.

Yeah, they're kinda stupid in SF.

 

[Black&Gold]

EVERYBODY

PLEASE ONLY COMMENT ON IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD TRADE FROM THE NINERS PERSEPECTIVE.. or THE EAGLES (IF THE TEAM LIKES KOLB)

IS IT FAIR? WOULD THE NINERS BE INTERESTED

IF YOU WANT TO TRASH PHILLY FANS START YOUR OWN THREAD

IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE MCNABBS CAREER FURTHER START YOUR OWN THREAD

Again, this is based on the premise that the Eagles do not advance far this post-season.. and Reid thinks Kolb is a starting QB he can trust. If both of these are true, and a decison is made to trade McNabb, then I think this is a win win for both teams

thank you

I can see the Eagles wanting to trade McNabb but you're nuts if you think anyone is giving up a #1 for him. He's 34. Alex Smith is a #1 overall pick. He looks to be turning it around. So...Yes, if you are a a Philly fan, that sounds great, but you aren't finding a team to do this.

 

[cobalt_27]

EVERYBODY

PLEASE ONLY COMMENT ON IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD TRADE FROM THE NINERS PERSEPECTIVE.. or THE EAGLES (IF THE TEAM LIKES KOLB)

IS IT FAIR? WOULD THE NINERS BE INTERESTED

IF YOU WANT TO TRASH PHILLY FANS START YOUR OWN THREAD

IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE MCNABBS CAREER FURTHER START YOUR OWN THREAD

Again, this is based on the premise that the Eagles do not advance far this post-season.. and Reid thinks Kolb is a starting QB he can trust. If both of these are true, and a decison is made to trade McNabb, then I think this is a win win for both teams

thank you

Your hypothetical is ridiculous to start with, so that's #1.But, beyond this, McNabb's career is relevant when considering the Niners scenario you wish would happen (but never will). It's relevant and revealing, so it's important to highlight why it's ludicrous, given all that he's given the Eagles and the Philly fans.

 

[DropKick]

PLEASE ONLY COMMENT ON IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD TRADE FROM THE NINERS PERSEPECTIVE.. or THE EAGLES (IF THE TEAM LIKES KOLB)

I wouldn't give a #1 for McNabb at his age. I suspect Kolb, although less accomplished, is more marketable because of his age. Apparently you also believe Kolb is ready and hence the motivation to move Donovan?

 

[super sleeper]

Shorter OP:

McNabb sucks, trade us your high draft picks for him.

Perfect summation of Eagles fans: stupid and ungrateful

Realistically, if a high-upside, much-younger guy like Matt Cassell commands less than a second round pick, why would McNabb, on the downside, bring back multiple picks, including a 1st, especially if he makes bad decisions and throws the ball into the ground? Can't Alex Smith do that for less money and no picks?

 

[NeverEnough]

I think this is a perfect trade for both teams...

I am an eagles homer.. and I think McNabb is wearing out his welcome.. I guess the season isnt over.. but really McNabb hasn't played great the last 6 weeks.. We've won but often not because of him... We have Kolb who I think Reid believes in and may be better or as good in this offense (then again he oculd stink too, what do I know?

Anyhow, the Niners are close... give them a real QB this season and they would be in the playoffs. Put McNabb there with Gore and Crabtree and Davis.. and I think the niners are one of the better teams

The Niners have two first rounders next year...

So why Not the trade Donovan for Niners or Panthers pick 1st round pick (whichever is a beter pick) plus another pick (2-4 round) for McNabb?

The Eagles can then use the pick on defense which is clearly a need.. walk away from the draft with 4 high draft picks all on the defensive side of the ball.... and roll next season with a kolb/desea/maclin/mccoy/celek offense

What do Niner fans think? Sound like a good deal?

What on earth does this guy have to do to make any of you guys satisfied?Further evidence that Philly absolutely has worst fans in pro sports. Hands down, and it's not even close.

 

[editor47]

should the eagles trade mcnabb? i don't know. i can see the positive and negatives in it.

why WOULD you trade him? because he is 34, because he isn't as good as he once was. no one said they would trade him for a fifth-round pick. but if you can get a first and a second, i think you consider it.

why would another trade FOR him? because if you are close, or at least think you are close, he gives you a better chance than, say, alex smith. alex smith stinks. alex smith will never win a playoff game. ever. book it. now, i'm not saying the 49ers should trade for him, but they need to realize they aren't going anywhere with alex smith.

why would the eagles not trade him? because they can't get enough for him.

i've posted in other threads, i think reid's 3-year extension results in 1 of 2 things at the end of this season: an end to the mcnabb era in philly, or a commitment to mcnabb for 3 more years. there is no middle ground there.

 

[CaptainHook]

Shorter OP:McNabb sucks, trade us your high draft picks for him. Perfect summation of Eagles fans: stupid and ungratefulRealistically, if a high-upside, much-younger guy like Matt Cassell commands less than a second round pick, why would McNabb, on the downside, bring back multiple picks, including a 1st, especially if he makes bad decisions and throws the ball into the ground? Can't Alex Smith do that for less money and no picks?

because cassell is/was never good and mcnabb is somehow perceived as a star?

 

[Da Guru]

I do think a change would be good for McNabb and the Eagles. The Niners would welcome him and the Eagles seem pretty set with Kolb and Vick to try and win the big one.

 

[MaddHatter]

I think this is a perfect trade for both teams...

I am an eagles homer.. and I think McNabb is wearing out his welcome.. I guess the season isnt over.. but really McNabb hasn't played great the last 6 weeks.. We've won but often not because of him... We have Kolb who I think Reid believes in and may be better or as good in this offense (then again he oculd stink too, what do I know?

Anyhow, the Niners are close... give them a real QB this season and they would be in the playoffs. Put McNabb there with Gore and Crabtree and Davis.. and I think the niners are one of the better teams

The Niners have two first rounders next year...

So why Not the trade Donovan for Niners or Panthers pick 1st round pick (whichever is a beter pick) plus another pick (2-4 round) for McNabb?

The Eagles can then use the pick on defense which is clearly a need.. walk away from the draft with 4 high draft picks all on the defensive side of the ball.... and roll next season with a kolb/desea/maclin/mccoy/celek offense

What do Niner fans think? Sound like a good deal?

What on earth does this guy have to do to make any of you guys satisfied?Further evidence that Philly absolutely has worst fans in pro sports. Hands down, and it's not even close.

In other news, north Florida remains the home of the blackout... Thanks NFL fans in N. Florida.

 

[Bankerguy]

McNabb = Over rated

 

[CaptainHook]

What I don't get is how a mediocre QB like mcnabb got the perception of stud to begin with. Can someone explain this?

 

[Fennis]

You could get a conditional pick based on performance. Maybe a 2nd and a 6th. You’re not getting a first

 

[CaptainHook]

can you get a conditional pick if you cut a guy

 

[Arch Stanton]

A first round pick for a 34yo QB who you think is too flawed to take a team to the SB and win after 5 NFC championship games? What team in their right mind would do that? Hell, what team in Matt Millen's mind would do that?

 

[Jimmy James]

The only trade I see making sense with McNabb is one that ships him to Minnesota. That means Favre would have to retire in a time frame that allowed such a trade to make sense (before the draft, likely, because I see the Eagles moving as many as 2 QBs before the draft).

I think Minnesota could be talked into giving their mid-high-20s first rounder for McNabb if they think he's what they need to take things to the level of a championship. Surely Philadelphia, if they were retaining Kolb, would be primarily playing for 2011 or later. You don't expect to win it all with a QB in his first year of starting.

 

[Riffraff]

A recent reference:

Brett Favre's Trade DetailsThe New York Jets acquire Brett Favre. The Packers get a fourth round pick if Brett plays under 50 percent of the snaps in 2008.If Favre plays over 50 percent of the snaps it becomes a third round pick. If Favre plays 70 percent of the snaps and makes the playoffs it becomes a second round pick. If the Favre plays 80 percent of the snaps and the Jets make the Super Bowl it becomes a first round pick.However, there is one more clause. If Favre is traded to the Vikings, the Jets owe the Packers three first round picks

So, possibly the best QB in history is worth a conditional 3rd or 4th round pick, but McNabb is worth a first rounder?And the Niners would know about trading away the HOF QB for a high price, so why would they be the sucker this time around?

the 49ers traded the 36-year-old quarterback -- along with safety David Whitmore and a 1994 third-round draft pick -- to Kansas City for the Chiefs' first-round selection (the 18th over all)

Can't see any team sending a 1st round pick. If they are in dire need of a QB, they are probably drafting at a decent slot in the first. Plenty of back-up hopefuls that can be bought for less.The OP just wants something for a QB he thinks sucks.. but someone else may want him at an exuberant price tag. Something doesn't jive in the justification. Need to lower the expectations.