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McNair looks done.. (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Mcnair has looked done for 2 yrs now....Ravens will be lucky to even get in the playoffs this year....I expect Steelers and Bengals to make it very tough on the Ravens. The AFC is a blood bath....
2 Minute Drill w your mom
Footballguy
Agreed that McNair has looked done for 2 years now. I don't think the Ravens would be lucky to get in the playoffs though. Their D is awesome.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I agree..McNair looked done his last year in Tenn.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
HE needs to be a backup for the next 2 years and then retire to Mississippi, proud of his career. I'm one of his biggest fans, and he's done.
It's true. He's like a boxer at the late stages of their career, still flashes but nothing that sustains. A warrior, who left it all out there even when he had no business playing. Now he has little left but the warrior mentality remains, who will go down swinging even to the detriment of himself/team.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I loved McNair in his heyday..but he does not have it anymore. Hold a clipboard..and cash a check for a couple of years,,he has earned that.
You're kidding right?You need to look beyond the surface. He's lost it.
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Steel Dillo
Footballguy
Wow! Boller's in!
delusional
Footballguy
apparently he is, boller is in ???
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General Tso
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oh yeah. boller is the solution. what a f'in joke. 
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General Tso
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Rex is my #3. Eli is my #2. I'm screwed..
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He yanked himself....FOR a pulled groin. With less than 5 minutes left, and a cold Boller, he is really putting his team in a tight spot in a divisional game.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
That was Heaps fault..Boller put in right in his hands. Heap has to make that catch.But you are right, McNair just can`t be counted on anymore.Stick a fork in McNair...He yanked himself....FOR a pulled groin. With less than 5 minutes left, and a cold Boller, he is really putting his team in a tight spot in a divisional game.And the look on Billick's face when Boller's pass was intercepted:
ceo3west
Footballguy
McNair reminds me of Eddie George at the end of his career. He just looks like a broken man out there.
enfuego
Footballguy
I am not blaming Boller or Heap. I put this one on McNair. He is not the "warrior" he used to be. I could not imagine him coming out in a crucial situation a couple years ago...unless he was on a stretcher.That was Heaps fault..Boller put in right in his hands. Heap has to make that catch.But you are right, McNair just can`t be counted on anymore.Stick a fork in McNair...He yanked himself....FOR a pulled groin. With less than 5 minutes left, and a cold Boller, he is really putting his team in a tight spot in a divisional game.And the look on Billick's face when Boller's pass was intercepted:
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Mcnair missed some easy passes out there....the WRs were open and he still could not do much
Tex Goldstein
Footballguy
It was sad to see him lose it that badly on opening night, national TV. To be fair, he had his groin taped up early in the game and fought through several series before he pulled himself. If your groin is not right, and you attempt to pass without proper mechanics (planting off the back foot, twisting at the waist and transferring that energy up to the throwing arm), your passes will look bad. The twisting at the waist part is almost impossible to do correctly if your groin muscles are not right.
Also, he took a vicious hit (shoulder to the sternum) shortly before he came out - a sternum injury was what limited him to 8 games in 2004, IIRC. Could be a combination of groin and sternum problems that led him to pull out of the game. Again, IIRC, he couldn't play with the sternum injury because there was a real chance that a free floating rib or fragment of sternum cartilage/bone could pierce his heart/lungs/aorta and kill him instantly if he was hit in the region.
Also, he took a vicious hit (shoulder to the sternum) shortly before he came out - a sternum injury was what limited him to 8 games in 2004, IIRC. Could be a combination of groin and sternum problems that led him to pull out of the game. Again, IIRC, he couldn't play with the sternum injury because there was a real chance that a free floating rib or fragment of sternum cartilage/bone could pierce his heart/lungs/aorta and kill him instantly if he was hit in the region.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
After one half of play McNair is going to be ??? for the rest of the season.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Also a big fan of McNair's over the years. I'd say he's one of my all-time favorite players, and the Titans aren't even my favorite team. I grew up in the Nashville area and watched him most of his career. The guy is a warrior and one of the toughest guys to ever play the game. It's a shame how the Titans done him. Just embarrassing 
And yes, he's done.
And yes, he's done.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Boller should be starting imo.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
McNair will be listed as questionable all week..then Boller will get the nod. McNairs body is failing him.
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Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
How did this thread not get purged? Weird to resurrect an old thread from 2003 like that.
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Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Hello?! What the heck are you talking about? McNair and his agent WILLINGLY negotiated and signed a contract with mucho bonus that included a large balloon type payment. Payment came due. Mac was done. What team in their right mind would pay him that money? No one...but Baltimore would still pay him much more than market value. So, in order to not lose value, the Titans wouldn't allow him to work out at their place so as to lessen the risk of injury that they'd have to pay the $ on before a trade was worked out. McNair and his agent were WELL AWARE OF THIS in advance but Mac chose to push the issue by trying to go work out. Mac made it an issue.And guess what? The Titans have been proven correct in this matter.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
It was clear all game that McNair couldn't move properly or step into his throws due to the groin injury. Several times he had to almost hop backwards to take his drops and it seemed several were not as deep as they should have been leading to even more pressure in his face. The third-and-1 overthrow to mason that was intercepted looked like a case where he couldn't get proper mechanics and floated it. I was surprised they didn't pull him sooner. It will be interesting to see if he can heal properly this season. Boller was an improvement last night, but he still tends to be inaccurate at the worst times. Last night was not Boller's fault, but I don't trust a full season to him.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Every pass (other than the one he tried to throw through Heap) I saw Boller throw last night was off his back foot. The worst was the flare he threw to the fullback at the goalline where he threw it like a girl - leading with his plant foot.
His mechanics are still awful and you can scratch the Ravens off the "Contenders" list.
His mechanics are still awful and you can scratch the Ravens off the "Contenders" list.
msommer
Footballguy
And count me in the fanclub
msommer
Footballguy
He got what 12M over 2006 and 2007 in BAL, right. For all the crap I spewed about not understanding why they did not keep him and then went with Young (and Collins :barfHello?! What the heck are you talking about? McNair and his agent WILLINGLY negotiated and signed a contract with mucho bonus that included a large balloon type payment. Payment came due. Mac was done. What team in their right mind would pay him that money? No one...but Baltimore would still pay him much more than market value. So, in order to not lose value, the Titans wouldn't allow him to work out at their place so as to lessen the risk of injury that they'd have to pay the $ on before a trade was worked out. McNair and his agent were WELL AWARE OF THIS in advance but Mac chose to push the issue by trying to go work out. Mac made it an issue.And guess what? The Titans have been proven correct in this matter.Also a big fan of McNair's over the years. I'd say he's one of my all-time favorite players, and the Titans aren't even my favorite team. I grew up in the Nashville area and watched him most of his career. The guy is a warrior and one of the toughest guys to ever play the game. It's a shame how the Titans done him. Just embarrassing
And yes, he's done.
I am going to have to contend that Reese, Fisher and Adams were right, no way, was McNair worth the 9M base salary they were to pay him last year. And yes, Young has so far been a lot better than I expected - so there you have it, I had crow for lunch today.
dnurk
Footballguy
If the offensive line doesn't perform any better, NO quarterback will have a chance. Peyton Manning couldn't do anything behind that group. Bengals were blitzing on almost every play and the Ravens O-line looked confused and completely outclassed. McNair couldn't even finish his 5 step drop without having someone in his face or hammering him. Yeah, McNair did miss a few throws but given how hurried he was all night, I wouldn't lay too much of the blame on him.
The Ravens better get their line shored up or it is going to be a long season for either QB and for Willis
The Ravens better get their line shored up or it is going to be a long season for either QB and for Willis
Verbal Kint
Footballguy
Are you kidding? He played hurt almost the entire game. Watching him in between plays, he could barely move.
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The_Man
Footballguy
If that's how McNair looks after an off-season of rest, on an 80 degree night, vs. the Bengals, then what's he going to look like on a cold December night vs. the Patriots after absorbing three months of NFL punishment?
He is an absolute warrior, but his heart far exceeds his skill at this point (and his decision-making was never that good).
He is an absolute warrior, but his heart far exceeds his skill at this point (and his decision-making was never that good).
flapgreen
Footballguy
What the HECK are you talking about? Where exactly did I say the Titans should've kept him and paid him the money? You guys need to start reading closer instead of just jumping to any conclusion you can dream up, so you can start an argument to try and make yourself look informed. It's not working, and it's getting old real quick.As much as the NFL is a business, I still believe in something called loyalty. McNair was quite possibly the most important player to the franchise since it moved to Nashville. Telling a player of that stature he has to leave the premesis while attempting to workout is beyond insulting imo. So sue me.Weapon of Mass Instruction said:Hello?! What the heck are you talking about? McNair and his agent WILLINGLY negotiated and signed a contract with mucho bonus that included a large balloon type payment. Payment came due. Mac was done. What team in their right mind would pay him that money? No one...but Baltimore would still pay him much more than market value. So, in order to not lose value, the Titans wouldn't allow him to work out at their place so as to lessen the risk of injury that they'd have to pay the $ on before a trade was worked out. McNair and his agent were WELL AWARE OF THIS in advance but Mac chose to push the issue by trying to go work out. Mac made it an issue.And guess what? The Titans have been proven correct in this matter.Also a big fan of McNair's over the years. I'd say he's one of my all-time favorite players, and the Titans aren't even my favorite team. I grew up in the Nashville area and watched him most of his career. The guy is a warrior and one of the toughest guys to ever play the game. It's a shame how the Titans done him. Just embarrassing
And yes, he's done.
(unwelcomed)GUEST
Footballguy
both Tex and Mungo nailed itMungo Burrows said:
McNair has lost the zip on the long ball and his mobility has really diminished in the past few seasons. He has been a seasoned, smart QB that reads defenses and manages a game well. He has nerves of steel, unlike Boller. The groin injury completely screwed up his mechanics last night. Too bad the coaching staff didn't take notice of the correlation (high throws-poor mechanics-groin injury) just as a few posters here did, maybe they (Ravens Offense) would have concentrated on the run a little more.Bears_Man2
Footballguy
Great topic.
How swift of a decline. No zip on the ball and terribly inaccurate. I thought he had the 'former MVP' and 'first year in Balt' as crutches last year. I expect him out of Baltimore after this year unless they get to the Super Bowl.
How swift of a decline. No zip on the ball and terribly inaccurate. I thought he had the 'former MVP' and 'first year in Balt' as crutches last year. I expect him out of Baltimore after this year unless they get to the Super Bowl.
