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Meltdown in Japan's Reactors (1 Viewer)

Seems to me if they butcher the animal, harvest the plant, or catch and clean the fish, they will be measuring it for contamination before selling it domestically or exporting it. None of my regularly consumed foods came from Japan prior to the tsunami, and I'm not worried about local food here in California.

you people

 
'Mr. Ham said:
'3C said:
Does this mean no Kobe Steaks too? Cuz that would kinda suck.
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I admit the fish thing is based on lack of understanding, but Bloomberg has reported the radiation levels today suggest at least Reactor 2 is in at least partial meltdown and it's been reported often that plutonium and MOX have leaked into the ocean. Don't know how this travels or dilutes of if and how it penetrates food chains, but I know it can't be good.This falls into the unifying theory of science that I'm working on and soon to publish is journals around the world:Over significant periods of time, good things begets good results, while bad things beget bad results.
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On Sundays, the supermarket would usually run out of romaine lettuce first, or corn if it's on sale. This last weekend was different. There was a run on carrots and tomatoes, even cherry tomatoes were sold out. And in the egg aisle, the entire shelf of Jumbo eggs was emptied out, only 2 cartons of Extra Large were left, but no such problem with the Large or Medium sizes. Is there something special about these kinda food? None of them were on sale. The most puzzling part was the sudden preference for supersize eggs.
 
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'bueno said:
'David Dodds said:
So what happens when the workers just say this is pointless and refuse to work in this environment?
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They get fired. Keep trying to find a cloud for that silver lining David.
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Seriously, I don't get the hostility aimed at me here. You have been wrong on this whole event. You have continually downplayed the whole event (as dangerous as eating a banana). This thing is burning up/melting and there is no plan to fix it. They are measuring 1 sievert/hour in the air right now at the plant. According to the revised estimates that TEPCO allowed their workers, these people could work for 15 minutes before reaching their annual allowance. So yes I definitely can see workers starting to say no to this BS and walking off. So my question remains, what happens when the workers say no (or all of the workers exceed their annual dosage - raised to 250 millisieverts at the start of this accident).
 
David, the intent is not to be hostile, but you tend to put more credence in the fringe element than in those people who actually know what is going on.

As to who has been right and wrong, I don't see where i have been wrong at all, while the sites you quote seem to be trying to create mass hysteria. That is what I feel hostile toward, because it is irresponsible.

 
'bueno said:
David, the intent is not to be hostile, but you tend to put more credence in the fringe element than in those people who actually know what is going on.As to who has been right and wrong, I don't see where i have been wrong at all, while the sites you quote seem to be trying to create mass hysteria. That is what I feel hostile toward, because it is irresponsible.
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I am calling the event for what it is. A meltdown of multiple reactors. It's not under control now and there is no plan to get it under control. They can't fix the pumps that were destroyed by the earthquake, tsunami, and hydrogen explosions. And if the pumps could have been fixed, TEPCO screwed that up by corroding them for weeks with salt water.You call that mass hysteria. I call it the truth.
 
Let's read the latest BBC link and assess what it is really says behind all the hyperbole: My comments in red.

Japan nuclear: PM Naoto Kan signals maximum alert

Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan has said his government is in a state of maximum alert over the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant.

Plutonium how much?was detected in soil at the facility and highly radioactive water had leaked what means highly and how much?from a reactor building.

Officials in China, South Korea and the United States have recorded traces of radioactive material in the air.

Earlier, Japan's government strongly criticised the plant's operator, Tepco, over mistaken radiation readings.

Mr Kan told parliament the situation "continues to be unpredictable".

The government "will tackle the problem while in a state of maximum alert," he said.

'Very grave' Speaking on Tuesday about how the government might fund relief and recovery efforts, Mr Kan said: "We need to pursue various possibilities."

Scrapping a planned cut in corporate taxes was one option under consideration, he added.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: "The situation is very grave."

"We are doing our utmost efforts to contain the damage.

"We need to avoid the fuel rods from heating up and drying up. Continuing the cooling is unavoidable... We need to prioritise injecting water," This isn't news.he said.

Correspondents say the government has been accused of indecision and delay.

Regional fallout The Environmental Protection Agency in the United States said it had detected traces of radiation in rain water in the north east of the country.

It said these were consistent with the Fukushima nuclear accident and also said they did not constitute a health hazard.

China's Ministry of Environmental Protection has said that "extremely low-level" doses of iodine-131, a radioactive material, have been found in coastal areas including Jiangsu, Shanghai, Zhejiang, Anhui, Guangdong and Guangxi.

It had already reported traces of the radioactive material in the air above the northeastern province of Heilongjiang.

However, the doses were so small as to not pose a threat to public health and no measures against it were necessary, the agency statement said.

Water and food is being tested for radiation; bans on some imported Japanese foodstuffs remain in place.

In Vietnam, the Thanh Nien newspaper has reported that Vietnamese scientists have found small amounts of radiation in the air.

The Korea Institute of Nuclear Safety said it had detected traces of iodine-131 in Seoul and seven other places across South Korea.

However, an agriculture ministry official told AFP that "no trace of radiation has been found so far either in our own fish or those imported from Japan".

Plutonium Highly radioactive water has been found for the first time outside one of the reactor buildings at Fukushima plant.

The leak in a tunnel linked to the No 2 reactor has raised fears fear isn't fact of radioactive liquid seeping into the environment.

Plutonium has also been found in soil at the plant, but not at levels that threaten human health, officials say.

Tepco later said that plutonium had also been detected in soil at five locations at the plant but not at levels that represented a risk to human health.

It said the results came from samples taken a week ago and would not stop work at the plant.

Plutonium was used in the fuel mix for only one of the six reactors, No 3.

On Sunday ,Tepco said radiation levels at reactor No 2 were 10 million times higher than normal, before correcting that figure to 100,000.

"Considering the fact that the monitoring of radioactivity is a major condition to ensure safety, this kind of mistake is absolutely unacceptable," said Mr Edano.

Tepco has been criticised for a lack of transparency and failing to provide information more promptly and for making a number of mistakes, including worker clothing.

Workers are battling to restore power and restart the cooling systems at the stricken nuclear plant, sounds like a plan to me David which was hit by a quake and tsunami over two weeks ago.

A 9.0-magnitude earthquake on 11 March and the powerful tsunami it triggered is now known to have killed 10,901 people, with more than 17,000 people still missing.
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'bueno said:
Let's read the latest BBC link and assess what it is really says behind all the hyperbole: My comments in red.

Japan nuclear: PM Naoto Kan signals maximum alert

1. Plutonium how much?was detected in soil at the facility and highly radioactive water had leaked what means highly and how much?from a reactor building.

2. "We need to avoid the fuel rods from heating up and drying up. Continuing the cooling is unavoidable... We need to prioritise injecting water," This isn't news.he said.

3. The leak in a tunnel linked to the No 2 reactor has raised fears fear isn't fact of radioactive liquid seeping into the environment.

4. Workers are battling to restore power and restart the cooling systems at the stricken nuclear plant, sounds like a plan to me David which was hit by a quake and tsunami over two weeks ago.
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I decided to number your points to discuss each. I doubt you really are looking for the answers though, but I will address them as if you really are seeking the truth here.1. Would you agree that discovery of plutonium is a worsening of the situation? It indicates a breach (which Japan officials have been hinting at for weeks). As for readings, the Japanese aren't very forthcoming regarding many of the bad readings. In regards to the highly radioactive water, TEPCO stated in their press conference that it was reading at 1,000 millisieverts per hour in the "highly radioactive" pool. Based on TEPCO's own inflated annual worker allowance of 250 millisieverts, that represents 15 minutes of exposure before the worker must be sent home. I think highly is the correct adjective here.

2. Sure they need to cool the rods. But the measurements are showing that the situation is worsening despite mostly around the clock water going into these reactors. Besides water, they need circulation. But the pumps were damaged by the earthquake, tsunami, hydrogen explosions and further made worse by pouring salt water into these units. The cooling systems are toast. They are not repairable.

3. I suppose the authors need to use these words despite clearly showing large levels of iodine in the ocean now. I don't think this is very hard to connect the dots. Radiation in the sea plus huge levels of radiation outside of the building in water pools that is running into the ocean. Where exactly did we expect all of this saltwater to go that they were pumping into these units for weeks?

4. I agree that's what is being reported, but I think it's just a ruse. The pumps are not going to be fixed. Operation Power Cord was abandoned today because of the high level of radiation near the turbine building. These pumps are gone. The salt water has added 99,000 lbs of salt corrosion per reactor as well. The plan was always a hail mary anyway, but now with radiation levels so high, there is virtually no possibility of getting the pumps to work because it would result in death of any workers trying to get these tasks done.

 
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Plutonium levels are about the same as they've always been, but it's still a concern.

"Detected so far are levels of radioactive decay ranging between 0.18 and 0.54 becquerels per kilogram of soil — about the same amount observed in Japan after the nuclear tests carried out in the Pacific in the 1950s and 1960s."

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110329x2.html
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From the link:
Tepco officials claim the plutonium leak is small, but people were still alarmed.

This is because plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, unlike the eight days for iodine-131 and 30 years for cesium-137, the two major radioactive substances that have contaminated vegetables and tap water as far away as Tokyo.
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Good to hear the plutonium leak is small, for what you are willing to believe the Japanese media, this plutonium leak is not something to be swept under the rug.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'3C said:
Plutonium levels are about the same as they've always been, but it's still a concern.

"Detected so far are levels of radioactive decay ranging between 0.18 and 0.54 becquerels per kilogram of soil — about the same amount observed in Japan after the nuclear tests carried out in the Pacific in the 1950s and 1960s."

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110329x2.html
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From the link:
Tepco officials claim the plutonium leak is small, but people were still alarmed.

This is because plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, unlike the eight days for iodine-131 and 30 years for cesium-137, the two major radioactive substances that have contaminated vegetables and tap water as far away as Tokyo.
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Good to hear the plutonium leak is small, for what you are willing to believe the Japanese media, this plutonium leak is not something to be swept under the rug.
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RIF
 
Well, the plutonium leak is something, finally, that should cause a fearful reaction, but it's still being blown out of proportion.

The bigger concern is the contaminated water, which is getting close to spilling back into the sea. They have to get tanks in there to hold that water, because they can't stop pouring water into the reactors. That could be real bad. It's still likely only to be a localized problem in terms of health risks, but very bad for the Japanese fishing industry if it starts pouring back into the sea. You could forget about harvesting and shellfish from the region for a very long time. Clams are natural filtration animals.

Ground contamination isn't all that hard to contain, seawater is another story. Still, almost impossible for it to affect the US or Alaska in any meaningful ot harmful way, but could be very bad for the Japanese coastline for a long time.

 
'Joe Summer said:
'SofaKings said:
It was reality but if you want to armchair qb it, go ahead. Guilt? :lmao:
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It's difficult to justify the execution of 250,000 women and children. One way to do it is to claim that those women and children would have armed themselves and killed millions of our soldiers. With sticks and rocks. Well, it could have happened, right??
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You're an idiot. It's not a claim. They were not armed with sticks and rocks. And even those that weren't armed were prepared to die (exhibit A being those who jumped off the cliffs in Okinawa rather than surrender).
 
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'Joe Summer said:
'SofaKings said:
It was reality but if you want to armchair qb it, go ahead. Guilt? :lmao:
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It's difficult to justify the execution of 250,000 women and children. One way to do it is to claim that those women and children would have armed themselves and killed millions of our soldiers. With sticks and rocks. Well, it could have happened, right??
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Maybe next time they'll learn not to go picking a fight.
 
'Thunderlips said:
'Joe Summer said:
'SofaKings said:
It was reality but if you want to armchair qb it, go ahead. Guilt? :lmao:
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It's difficult to justify the execution of 250,000 women and children. One way to do it is to claim that those women and children would have armed themselves and killed millions of our soldiers. With sticks and rocks. Well, it could have happened, right??
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Maybe next time they'll learn not to go picking a fight.
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Sort of an aside, but I can't recommend the documentary Hiroshima: BBC History of World War II highly enough. I think it takes a fairly balanced approach and presents both sides of the event, with interviews of survivors and crew of the Enola Gay. All woven through some incredible reenactments of the lead-up to, bombing, and aftermath.It's not for the faint of heart, but something I think most people should see at least once.

 
'David Dodds said:
'bueno said:
'David Dodds said:
So what happens when the workers just say this is pointless and refuse to work in this environment?
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They get fired. Keep trying to find a cloud for that silver lining David.
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Seriously, I don't get the hostility aimed at me here. You have been wrong on this whole event. You have continually downplayed the whole event (as dangerous as eating a banana). This thing is burning up/melting and there is no plan to fix it. They are measuring 1 sievert/hour in the air right now at the plant. According to the revised estimates that TEPCO allowed their workers, these people could work for 15 minutes before reaching their annual allowance. So yes I definitely can see workers starting to say no to this BS and walking off.

So my question remains, what happens when the workers say no (or all of the workers exceed their annual dosage - raised to 250 millisieverts at the start of this accident).
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For me, it's the fact that you posted a link from the world leader in Nuclear news....Bulgaria....
 
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor





 
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'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Still, it is a very localized danger, not some frreakin plume of plutonium that is going to drift across the ocean. The real danger is the water.... Mr. Dodds... you don't understand why people are ridiculing you. You are near crazy in your reactions and assumptions. There is real danger, but not what you keep sounding alarms over. You really have to be searching for the most scared media outlets you can possibly find. That is why people are on your buttocks. You find the most unreliable sources, the most alarmist "news outlets" you can find, discard anything from reliable sources, and can't figure out why peoiple think you are off the deep end? December 23, 2012. Check into that one and report back. TIA.

 
'Rovers said:
'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Still, it is a very localized danger, not some frreakin plume of plutonium that is going to drift across the ocean. The real danger is the water.... Mr. Dodds... you don't understand why people are ridiculing you. You are near crazy in your reactions and assumptions. There is real danger, but not what you keep sounding alarms over. You really have to be searching for the most scared media outlets you can possibly find. That is why people are on your buttocks. You find the most unreliable sources, the most alarmist "news outlets" you can find, discard anything from reliable sources, and can't figure out why peoiple think you are off the deep end? December 23, 2012. Check into that one and report back. TIA.
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Of course this is a localized issue. I have always said that. It's also a full meltdown now based on the latest from UKs biggest paper, The Guardian.
 
'David Dodds said:
The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.
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Would just like to chime in and point out that if you read back to the beginning of this thread Dodds was a hell of a lot closer to right than the people currently arguing with him in terms of what's currently being reported.Maybe he's not 'wrong' - just 'early'?
 
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'wdcrob said:
'David Dodds said:
The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.
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Would just like to chime in and point out that if you read back to the beginning of this thread Dodds was a hell of a lot closer to right than the people currently arguing with him in terms of what's currently being reported.Maybe he's not 'wrong' - just 'early'?
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:no:One of his first posts that wasn't a copy/paste: "This is a full meltdown going on." At the time it wasn't a full meltdown and it's not likely that it is now either.
 
'bueno said:
'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Oh, so the core catcher discussion comes into play now.
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Does this core catcher exist for this reactor? I was under the impression it was introduced after these reactors were built.
 
I live in Japan and it`s frustrating trying to get good information . The government and Tepco have lied since the beginning of this fiasco . I live about 500 kilometers to the north and you can`t buy bottled water at the supermarket here . There are empty shelves at the market even though we are in an area that really wasn`t harmed by the earthquake or the tsunami . Hopefully heads will roll in an inquest after this is over . Tokyo Power and the Japanese government have failed on so many levels dealing with this disaster that it should be criminal .

 
My first post used the word meltdown because that was the word the article used:

TOKYO (Nikkei)--The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) said Saturday afternoon the explosion at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant could only have been caused by a meltdown of the reactor core.

 
'3C said:
Plutonium levels are about the same as they've always been, but it's still a concern.

"Detected so far are levels of radioactive decay ranging between 0.18 and 0.54 becquerels per kilogram of soil — about the same amount observed in Japan after the nuclear tests carried out in the Pacific in the 1950s and 1960s."

http://search.japant...20110329x2.html
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Seriously, I am still looking for levels of radiation that would create a "kill zone."As to plutonium, like uranium, its natural decay scheme is beta radiation. Throw a couple inches of dirt over it. Beta particles are stopped by a piece of paper.

I admit I wouldn't eat any filter feeders like clams down on the beach, but this is not the Armageddon some people make it out to be.

 
'David Dodds said:
'bueno said:
'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Oh, so the core catcher discussion comes into play now.
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Does this core catcher exist for this reactor? I was under the impression it was introduced after these reactors were built.
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I believe all reactors are built with a thick concrete core designed to hold a melted down core. The term core catcher came into play later, but not the concept. Having said that, if we had total core meltdown, encasement is probably the best solution at this time. I'd still ike to see the use of definitive words instead of "appears to". Makes it hard to separate fact from speculation.
 
Just wanted to share some info from an energy report we get in the US Gov't that tracks all of the energy commodities. The part that is pertinent to nuclear is that there is no forecasted long or short term drawdown of nuclear power on the horizon. This despite both Germany and Italy are powering down to do indefinite "safety inspections" on some of their reactors. This will slow the development and commissioning of future nuclear plants until the political effects and stigma of the situation are behind us. So nuclear is in a holding pattern as far as growth.

Lots of other details from that report that include the Libya effect, and the heavy rains in the southern hemisphere artificially bloating coal prices, but that is for another topic.

Whatever they are reporting on the day to day developments in Japan, the nuclear industry seems impervious to it.

 
'Wolverine said:
I live in Japan and it`s frustrating trying to get good information . The government and Tepco have lied since the beginning of this fiasco . I live about 500 kilometers to the north and you can`t buy bottled water at the supermarket here . There are empty shelves at the market even though we are in an area that really wasn`t harmed by the earthquake or the tsunami . Hopefully heads will roll in an inquest after this is over . Tokyo Power and the Japanese government have failed on so many levels dealing with this disaster that it should be criminal .
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These are my thoughts as well. People think I have some big axe to grind against nuclear power. I don't. What I have disliked though is all of the lying done by TEPCO and the Japanese government. It's sickening to me that they seem more concerned with their companies stock (or stock market) than the people in Japan.
 
'David Dodds said:
'Wolverine said:
I live in Japan and it`s frustrating trying to get good information . The government and Tepco have lied since the beginning of this fiasco . I live about 500 kilometers to the north and you can`t buy bottled water at the supermarket here . There are empty shelves at the market even though we are in an area that really wasn`t harmed by the earthquake or the tsunami . Hopefully heads will roll in an inquest after this is over . Tokyo Power and the Japanese government have failed on so many levels dealing with this disaster that it should be criminal .
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These are my thoughts as well. People think I have some big axe to grind against nuclear power. I don't. What I have disliked though is all of the lying done by TEPCO and the Japanese government. It's sickening to me that they seem more concerned with their companies stock (or stock market) than the people in Japan.
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You ever consider that in the absence of concrete information that they are just speculating as well? Just a thought. Hard to know what is going on inside a building when you don't have a visual.
 
'bueno said:
'Otis said:
'3C said:
http://www.bloomberg...rc-says-1-.html
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:lmao: For every gloom and doom news report there is one saying things are under control.
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I would think that the executive director for operations at the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission testifying before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee is a pretty credible source, considering our expert observers over there report to the NRC.
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NRC is the truth on nuclear. I don't question that as a credible source. Anyone who does is very misinformed.
 
'David Dodds said:
Bueno, You are saying it's impossible for the core to breach the concrete?
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I am saying what I said in post 377: " We are probably looking at a meltdown into the core catcher, but there may also be a possibility of radioactive water escaping. That would definitely be close to worst case." In 393 I said: "Eventually all of the steam would have to be vented anyway, but this would make it difficult to vent it in a controlled manner (i.e. keeping the amount of radiation at lower levels). Still not dealing with anything even approaching Chernobyl but this makes complete meltdown more likely. The nuclear material will likely melt and get collected in the core catcher, but any steam in the building could escape."I also said somewhere in the late #400s: "The situation has gotten to the point where it is approaching worst case scenario."All that is true. The difference is whether the worst case scenario is the Armageddon that it is being hyped up to be. It is still worse than 3MI, nowhere near as bad as Chernobyl.So assuming the floor of the containment building does what it was designed to do, the core is contained.
 
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'David Dodds said:
'Rovers said:
'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Still, it is a very localized danger, not some frreakin plume of plutonium that is going to drift across the ocean. The real danger is the water.... Mr. Dodds... you don't understand why people are ridiculing you. You are near crazy in your reactions and assumptions. There is real danger, but not what you keep sounding alarms over. You really have to be searching for the most scared media outlets you can possibly find. That is why people are on your buttocks. You find the most unreliable sources, the most alarmist "news outlets" you can find, discard anything from reliable sources, and can't figure out why peoiple think you are off the deep end? December 23, 2012. Check into that one and report back. TIA.
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Of course this is a localized issue. I have always said that. It's also a full meltdown now based on the latest from UKs biggest paper, The Guardian.
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what does the UK's biggest news SOURCE, BBC have to say.
 
'Incogneto said:
'David Dodds said:
'Rovers said:
'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Still, it is a very localized danger, not some frreakin plume of plutonium that is going to drift across the ocean. The real danger is the water.... Mr. Dodds... you don't understand why people are ridiculing you. You are near crazy in your reactions and assumptions. There is real danger, but not what you keep sounding alarms over. You really have to be searching for the most scared media outlets you can possibly find. That is why people are on your buttocks. You find the most unreliable sources, the most alarmist "news outlets" you can find, discard anything from reliable sources, and can't figure out why peoiple think you are off the deep end? December 23, 2012. Check into that one and report back. TIA.
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Of course this is a localized issue. I have always said that. It's also a full meltdown now based on the latest from UKs biggest paper, The Guardian.
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what does the UK's biggest news SOURCE, BBC have to say.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12899399
 
'David Dodds said:
'Incogneto said:
'David Dodds said:
'Rovers said:
'David Dodds said:
The Guardian is now reporting:

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.



http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



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Still, it is a very localized danger, not some frreakin plume of plutonium that is going to drift across the ocean. The real danger is the water.... Mr. Dodds... you don't understand why people are ridiculing you. You are near crazy in your reactions and assumptions. There is real danger, but not what you keep sounding alarms over. You really have to be searching for the most scared media outlets you can possibly find. That is why people are on your buttocks. You find the most unreliable sources, the most alarmist "news outlets" you can find, discard anything from reliable sources, and can't figure out why peoiple think you are off the deep end? December 23, 2012. Check into that one and report back. TIA.
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Of course this is a localized issue. I have always said that. It's also a full meltdown now based on the latest from UKs biggest paper, The Guardian.
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what does the UK's biggest news SOURCE, BBC have to say.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12899399
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That's what I THOUGHT!
 
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