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Memo to AJ Smith (1 Viewer)

We still don't know if he can handle a full load. I don't think teams are going to pay him Turner-like money.

 
Yesterday, Smith did not seem overly eager to get an extension done. Sproles want to stay in SD, but there might be some decent offers if the Chargers let him test the waters. Here is a recent blurb:

There are bigger issues – such as what the Chargers will do at a couple of positions on the offensive line – but perhaps the most intriguing aspect of the team's offseason will be what they do with yet another stellar backup running back.

A year after Michael Turner left for big bucks in Atlanta, Darren Sproles is due to be an unrestricted free agent this spring, which means Saturday could be his last game as a Charger.

Sproles said this week he was focused solely on the Colts game, in which he will likely play a large role with LaDainian Tomlinson nursing a strained groin.

Sproles has said his desire is to stay in San Diego, but it is also likely he will test the market. There are bound to be at least a couple of teams willing to give Sproles a bigger role in their offense than the Chargers, which means they will offer more money.

Coach Norv Turner has found a spot for Sproles in his offense – using him in a variety of ways to get him a career-high 61 carries for 330 yards and 29 receptions for 342 yards.

But the Chargers view Sproles as continuing in his role as a returner and situational back. The sides have spoken this season, but not substantially.

“I have no idea on Darren Sproles,” General Manager A.J. Smith said. “We would love to have Darren Sproles, and my understanding is he would love to be a Charger. That's a good start.”

 
We still don't know if he can handle a full load. I don't think teams are going to pay him Turner-like money.
i dont care about that.a RBBC with LT and sproles is needed next season. Due to the lack of a 2nd rounder, I dont think they can afford to draft a RB this season.his special team contributions are enough to bring him back IMO.
 
We still don't know if he can handle a full load. I don't think teams are going to pay him Turner-like money.
i dont care about that.a RBBC with LT and sproles is needed next season. Due to the lack of a 2nd rounder, I dont think they can afford to draft a RB this season.his special team contributions are enough to bring him back IMO.
I would love to bring him back too, but I'm not so sure they should put the franchise tag on him. He's not worth a franchise tag in a RBBC. I can't think of a team that would pick him up and pay him workhorse RB money.
 
if they have the room they should franchise him and deal him like NE will do with Cassell - SD is stuck like the JEts were a few years ago with Curtis and Lamont Jordan. Tough to shove a HOF out the door - best move would be to deal Sproles for some picks.

 
I think people drastically underestimate the importance of a dynamic return specialist. I can't say if Sproles should be franchised (I personally think yes), but a returner like him who could be used for 10-15 touches on offense as well is a nice weapon to have. Field position is overlooked as an offensive and defensive weapon.

I would love to see the Lions go after Sproles. He is a playmaker and is a threat to score a TD every time the ball is in his hands.

 
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if they have the room they should franchise him and deal him like NE will do with Cassell - SD is stuck like the JEts were a few years ago with Curtis and Lamont Jordan. Tough to shove a HOF out the door - best move would be to deal Sproles for some picks.
The big difference, though, is that in Jordan's last season with the Jets Martin led the league in rushing with 1,697 yards. He had a sensational season. Jordan wasn't better than Martin that season and honestly he hasn't done anything since to suggest the Jets made the wrong decision with him.I think the Chargers need to do everything they can to keep Sproles. I don't know if he can handle the full load but all the guy does is produce and produce at a high level when he's called upon. At the very least, an LT-Sproles RBBC would be dynamite for the Chargers next season. No way would I let him go and take a chance on having him go Michael Turner for another team. No way.
 
Awful lot of love for a guy who has less than 200 CAREER touches. Both Lamont and Turner had a more experience under the belts by their 3rd year and similar to better ypc or ypr. Heck, even Chester Taylor had a larger body of work to go on by his 3rd season. All 3 of those players stuck around for a 4th year as backups so there was a better idea of how well they might do with a change of scenery. I'm not saying I don't like the kid (I own him in dynasty) but those expecting him to be the new Turner should temper their expectations. A lot of risk involved.

All that being said, the chargers should keep him as a 3rd down back / returner. His intangibles in Special Teams likely make him worth one year at the franchise tag. I wouldn't want him carrying a full load as that wouldn't allow him to contribute as a returner which is where a lot of his value lies.

 
Franchise him? People are getting mighty liberal with their franchise tag declarations. Wow.
why not?6-7 million for one more season doesnt seem like that big of a deal?SD is always under the cap and has the roomLJ Smith got franchised for cryin out loud
Don't mean to insult your intelligence, but you do realize that franchise salaries are based on position, right? Sproles is valuable, but I can't see paying him around $7 Million dollars for the year, just to see him go next year. The more he plays at RB, the less success he'll likely have as a returner - just look at Hester.
 
Awful lot of love for a guy who has less than 200 CAREER touches. Both Lamont and Turner had a more experience under the belts by their 3rd year and similar to better ypc or ypr. Heck, even Chester Taylor had a larger body of work to go on by his 3rd season. All 3 of those players stuck around for a 4th year as backups so there was a better idea of how well they might do with a change of scenery. I'm not saying I don't like the kid (I own him in dynasty) but those expecting him to be the new Turner should temper their expectations. A lot of risk involved.All that being said, the chargers should keep him as a 3rd down back / returner. His intangibles in Special Teams likely make him worth one year at the franchise tag. I wouldn't want him carrying a full load as that wouldn't allow him to contribute as a returner which is where a lot of his value lies.
i think his lack of PT up to this point is really serving him well. once teams and players get a 2nd or 3rd look at the guy on the field then they will figure how to deal with him. he's a fine player but the nfl seems to work that way.
 
Franchise him? People are getting mighty liberal with their franchise tag declarations. Wow.
why not?6-7 million for one more season doesnt seem like that big of a deal?SD is always under the cap and has the roomLJ Smith got franchised for cryin out loud
Don't mean to insult your intelligence, but you do realize that franchise salaries are based on position, right? Sproles is valuable, but I can't see paying him around $7 Million dollars for the year, just to see him go next year. The more he plays at RB, the less success he'll likely have as a returner - just look at Hester.
This is what I was thinking as well. You can not compare franchised players at different positions. A couple of years ago, Vinatieri was franchised. He cost a lot less than Sproles or Cassel would this year.
 
Tornacl said:
Franchise him? People are getting mighty liberal with their franchise tag declarations. Wow.
why not?6-7 million for one more season doesnt seem like that big of a deal?SD is always under the cap and has the roomLJ Smith got franchised for cryin out loud
Don't mean to insult your intelligence, but you do realize that franchise salaries are based on position, right? Sproles is valuable, but I can't see paying him around $7 Million dollars for the year, just to see him go next year. The more he plays at RB, the less success he'll likely have as a returner - just look at Hester.
to me Sproles is worth every penny. We will see what AJ has in mind
 
jonessed said:
I would love to bring him back too, but I'm not so sure they should put the franchise tag on him. He's not worth a franchise tag in a RBBC. I can't think of a team that would pick him up and pay him workhorse RB money.
He is great, but every time he got hit yesterday, either on ST or off tackle, I thought he was going to be crushed. He would get up a head of steam and then look like he hit a brick wall. Then, under the pile, he'd get bent over backwards.I know he ripped off the game winner after 20+ touches against IND, but no team should make him an every down back. He should get 10-15 touches a game to preserve him and what he can bring to a game.
 
jonessed said:
I would love to bring him back too, but I'm not so sure they should put the franchise tag on him. He's not worth a franchise tag in a RBBC. I can't think of a team that would pick him up and pay him workhorse RB money.
He is great, but every time he got hit yesterday, either on ST or off tackle, I thought he was going to be crushed. He would get up a head of steam and then look like he hit a brick wall. Then, under the pile, he'd get bent over backwards.I know he ripped off the game winner after 20+ touches against IND, but no team should make him an every down back. He should get 10-15 touches a game to preserve him and what he can bring to a game.
I agree he's not an everydown back.
 
Do they have to franchise him as a RB or can one be franchised as a return guy. He has way more touches as a return guy to RB one would think

 
Do they have to franchise him as a RB or can one be franchised as a return guy. He has way more touches as a return guy to RB one would think
Pretty sure there's no separate category for KR. For roster purposes, he's listed as an RB and that would be his category for franchising purposes.
 
Franchise or not, what kind of contract was given to the last "return specialist" type - be it a cb, safety, wr or rb that could contribute at a position other than returns?

I would assume all teams will go after him for those reasons first and foremost, and look at his contributions at rb second.

The bolts should keep him, however possible. RBBC or spelling LT2 as well as using hester should have them covered for 2009 at rb.

 
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massraider said:
Rough estimate on Chargers cap situation next year?
The last decent number I can find is they were 16Mill under the cap in the spring. Other then the draft, where they did not have all their picks or high picks, they brought in virtually nobody other then Vet mins. They did give Castillo a new contract, thats all I can find. The Cap increases to I belive another 10Mill to 126 from 116. Bottom line they would have amble room to sign sporles if they wanted. A larger problem is that Rivers, Merriman, VJax, and others will be in contract years in 2009, only so much cash to go around.
 

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