bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
why will he out do those guys in PPR? Bruce Arians doesnt throw to the RBs he has come out and said as much.
Gimme Ivory over him for sure regardless of format
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Gimme Ivory over him for sure regardless of format
Not disrespecting STL defense, it's a unit with good potential and a good line coach.
However, through Week 16 last season, they were mediocre both in total yards and in rushing yards allowed. So no, I don't see STL in the same tier as SF, SEA and HOU. If you do think STL will be a particularly tough matchup for rushers next season, then surely adjust accordingly!
However, through Week 16 last season, they were mediocre both in total yards and in rushing yards allowed. So no, I don't see STL in the same tier as SF, SEA and HOU. If you do think STL will be a particularly tough matchup for rushers next season, then surely adjust accordingly!
Not sure when Arians has said he doesn't throw to RBs, but fair enough - feel free to add a perspective on the discussion re: Arians, Carson Palmer and the ARI/OAK RB receptions a few pages back.
On Ivory and BJGE......I will offer you a friendly wager: I say Mendenhall makes more catches per game next season than either of those two.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I found this on the blogger, but I recall him saying something like Running backs run the ball, receivers catch the ball, or something like that:
Cardinals | Won't Throw to RBs much Tue May 14, 09:11 PM
Darren Urban, from AZCardinals.com, notes that new Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians has made plain he doesn't plan on throwing to the running backs as much.
Footballguys view: Important note for fantasy owners here, especially those in PPR leagues. Rashard Mendenhall signed in free agency and the most receptions he's had in a season is 25. Last year (under Arians as the OC) Colts RB Vick Ballard only managed to catch 17 passes. Arians wants one RB to emerge as the feature back but may not pass to him much in 2013.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Well in ppr I have him at 9.5 ppg and he dropped a spot for Pierre Thomas. Trust me, I really believe in Mendenhall as a talent. Just read some of my earlier post in this thread. I don't like the line, QB, or schedule. From week 4-7 he has TB-SF-SEA... three of those four games are against teams that had the best run defenses in the league in 2012, and I'd project them to to again this season. Even a team like PHI can be a problem that late in the season. If he does start hot I'll be the first guy to deal him. I can't go all in this year. Ari arguably has the toughest schedule for RB's.
Count me in the minority that is not 100% sold on the TB run defense yet. Just doesn't fully pass the eyeball test. They went from last to first in the course of one season...can't think of another similarly dramatic example. Heck, almost 20% of runs against them went for a loss.....how is that even possible, let alone sustainable? Might have something to do with being abused by the pass, especially by Brees and Matt Ryan.
Now they are losing Michael Bennett to the Seahawks - Bennett was top-5 in the league in tackles for a loss. Roy Miller was rock solid as nose tackle - he is now gone as well. Yeah, Lavonte is a beast already and should improve further, but I just am not convinced the run defense will be as formidable as the 2012 stats suggest.
rjv
Footballguy
Yes
Not Sleeping
Footballguy
RalphMouth
Footballguy
how is Philly against the run ?
Krilons Resa
Footballguy
Great. Should I pull Pierre Thomas now for Mendy?
What are people's expectations for Mendy today?
What are people's expectations for Mendy today?
kutta
Footballguy
Well call me crazy, but I'm considering benching Gio and Zac for him. Gio is a bit hit or miss, and Zac is playing San Fran and coming back from the concussion. Both scare me just a little this week. Mendy looked really good last week, and with Ellington out, I just see him getting a few more catches, a few more carries, and all the goal line work.
Disclaimer: I don't really need the win in the league I am playing him in, so I might be letting my homerism rule here.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Philly ranks 21st against the run yardage wise, is giving up 4.1 ypc, and only allowed 7 rushing TDs. So I think that's pretty middle of the pack.
I suddenly have an interesting decision at my flex with either Mendy or Bolden. Leaning toward Mendy in hopes that he catches a few more passes out of the backfield with Ellington out.
Both are suddenly much better options than they were a week ago but still plenty of question marks for both.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Benched Shorts for Mendenhall at flex in five leagues. Like the matchup and like how he looked last week. Also like Mendy's floor this week compared to Shorts's -- who will likely see a lot of Haden.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Postseason you mean?
hawks will have clinched one of those top seeds by then. they'll be smart to rest players and avoid injuries.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I am always amused at the "take away this run and his longest run was only this" talk. It is stupid to play that game.
That aside, Mendenhall is mediocre now, so him retiring can only help Ellington and the Cardinals.
That aside, Mendenhall is mediocre now, so him retiring can only help Ellington and the Cardinals.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Jesus. It's like Mad Magazine, where they take something a guy said and turn it into something he didn't say at all, over there at Rotoworld.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Good catch. Rotoworld's "writers" are such agenda pushing hacks sometimes. That one is particularly brutal -- to pull something out of context from two years ago and say that he's looking at retirement now is really awful.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Ten, I think.
Don't care so much what Mendenhall does or doesn't do though -- he was a nice RB3 last year, but not a key piece.
But whoever wrote the blurb at Rotoworld is an idiot. Mendenhall is talking about the end of the two year journey he envisioned when he tore his ACL, not retirement. Not retirement.
JohnnyU
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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Godsbrother
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gianmarco
Footballguy
I've never been a big Mendenhall fan, but I really do admire what he wrote here.
He's a unique person who isn't afraid to be who he is, it seems. Good for him. While I don't know him other than reading these words and from what's reported, if this is a genuine representation of who he is as a person, then the world needs more like him.
Copeman
Footballguy
Rashard Mendenhall was different, but he was right about one thing
By Gerry Dulac about 1 hour ago
I have always found Rashard Mendenhall to be a different sort.
There are several reasons for that, going back to his rookie season when he told the bizarre story how he was mugged walking along Lake Shore Drive in Chicago.
Even he was suffered a broken scapula after a thunderous hit from Ray Lewis in Week 2, ending his rookie season, Mendenhall never came around the locker room much, if at all, after that, preferring to remain away from his teammates when you would think he would want to be around the team and soak up as much experience and knowledge as possible in his first season.
Further proof of his odd behavior came when Mike Tomlin benched him the week of the Tennessee game in 2011, saying Mendenhall was not doing enough to know his assignments – a curious critique of a 1,000-yard rusher who had never missed a game after his rookie season.
It would be easy to criticize Mendenhall for having much the same lackadaisical approach in 2012 when he was deactivated for two games and suspended by the team for another. The suspension was a result of Mendenhall not showing up for a home game against the San Diego Chargers when he was told on Friday he would be inactive for the second game in a row.
Mendenhall said he did not know he was supposed to show up for the game merely to stand on the sideline, a comment that might have been even more damaging than an insubordinate attitude, which is how his no-show was initially perceived. By admitting that, Mendenhall was viewed as a player who didn’t support his teammates or, worse, didn’t care what happened. In a team game, there is nothing viewed with more disdain than a player who doesn’t have a teammate’s back, whether in the game or along the sideline.
That being said, I think the situation was not entirely Mendenhall’s fault. Rather, I think it was the result of Tomlin punishing Mendenhall for a pair of fumbles (one of which he lost) in a big game in Cleveland on Nov. 25. Mendenhall was upset because he felt he was being singled out for fumbling when other players on the team, such as Antonio Brown in an earlier defeat in Oakland, committed the same number of gaffesin a game without any recrimination.
This is not to suggest Mendenhall was right for not showing up for the Chargers game. That is wrong. But Tomlin went a little too far with the punishment, and was even told as much by one of his assistant coaches.
All this comes to light because Mendenhall did another strange thing the other day: Announced he was retiring from the game, at age 26, after six NFL seasons. In a blog post he authored for the Huffington Post, Mendenhall said he has grown weary of the game, of being a private person who had to lead a very public life, of sacrificing his body for entertainment. He said he wants to live, to be free and to write – the latter another odd admission from a player who gave new meaning to dull when interviewed in the locker room.
But I will say this for Mendenhall: He gained some new-found admiration from me with this passage in his blog post:
“What was more difficult for me to grasp was the way that the business of entertainment had really shifted the game and the sport of football in the NFL. The culture of football now is very different from the one I grew up with. When I came up, teammates fought together for wins and got respect for the fight. The player who gave the ball to the referee after a touchdown was commended; the one who played through injury was tough; the role of the blocking tight end was acknowledged; running backs who picked up blitzing linebackers showed heart; and the story of the game was told through the tape, and not the stats alone. That was my model of football.
“Today, game-day cameras follow the most popular players on teams; guys who dance after touchdowns are extolled on Dancing With the Starters; games are analyzed and brought to fans without any use of coaches tape; practice non-participants are reported throughout the week for predicted fantasy value; and success and failure for skill players is measured solely in stats and fantasy points. This is a very different model of football than the one I grew up with.
“My older brother coaches football at the high-school and youth level. One day he called me and said, “These kids don't want to work hard. All they wanna do is look cool, celebrate after plays, and get more followers on Instagram!" I told him that they might actually have it figured out.”
Mendenhall has that figured out. And I, for one, concur.
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By Gerry Dulac about 1 hour ago
I have always found Rashard Mendenhall to be a different sort.
There are several reasons for that, going back to his rookie season when he told the bizarre story how he was mugged walking along Lake Shore Drive in Chicago.
Even he was suffered a broken scapula after a thunderous hit from Ray Lewis in Week 2, ending his rookie season, Mendenhall never came around the locker room much, if at all, after that, preferring to remain away from his teammates when you would think he would want to be around the team and soak up as much experience and knowledge as possible in his first season.
Further proof of his odd behavior came when Mike Tomlin benched him the week of the Tennessee game in 2011, saying Mendenhall was not doing enough to know his assignments – a curious critique of a 1,000-yard rusher who had never missed a game after his rookie season.
It would be easy to criticize Mendenhall for having much the same lackadaisical approach in 2012 when he was deactivated for two games and suspended by the team for another. The suspension was a result of Mendenhall not showing up for a home game against the San Diego Chargers when he was told on Friday he would be inactive for the second game in a row.
Mendenhall said he did not know he was supposed to show up for the game merely to stand on the sideline, a comment that might have been even more damaging than an insubordinate attitude, which is how his no-show was initially perceived. By admitting that, Mendenhall was viewed as a player who didn’t support his teammates or, worse, didn’t care what happened. In a team game, there is nothing viewed with more disdain than a player who doesn’t have a teammate’s back, whether in the game or along the sideline.
That being said, I think the situation was not entirely Mendenhall’s fault. Rather, I think it was the result of Tomlin punishing Mendenhall for a pair of fumbles (one of which he lost) in a big game in Cleveland on Nov. 25. Mendenhall was upset because he felt he was being singled out for fumbling when other players on the team, such as Antonio Brown in an earlier defeat in Oakland, committed the same number of gaffesin a game without any recrimination.
This is not to suggest Mendenhall was right for not showing up for the Chargers game. That is wrong. But Tomlin went a little too far with the punishment, and was even told as much by one of his assistant coaches.
All this comes to light because Mendenhall did another strange thing the other day: Announced he was retiring from the game, at age 26, after six NFL seasons. In a blog post he authored for the Huffington Post, Mendenhall said he has grown weary of the game, of being a private person who had to lead a very public life, of sacrificing his body for entertainment. He said he wants to live, to be free and to write – the latter another odd admission from a player who gave new meaning to dull when interviewed in the locker room.
But I will say this for Mendenhall: He gained some new-found admiration from me with this passage in his blog post:
“What was more difficult for me to grasp was the way that the business of entertainment had really shifted the game and the sport of football in the NFL. The culture of football now is very different from the one I grew up with. When I came up, teammates fought together for wins and got respect for the fight. The player who gave the ball to the referee after a touchdown was commended; the one who played through injury was tough; the role of the blocking tight end was acknowledged; running backs who picked up blitzing linebackers showed heart; and the story of the game was told through the tape, and not the stats alone. That was my model of football.
“Today, game-day cameras follow the most popular players on teams; guys who dance after touchdowns are extolled on Dancing With the Starters; games are analyzed and brought to fans without any use of coaches tape; practice non-participants are reported throughout the week for predicted fantasy value; and success and failure for skill players is measured solely in stats and fantasy points. This is a very different model of football than the one I grew up with.
“My older brother coaches football at the high-school and youth level. One day he called me and said, “These kids don't want to work hard. All they wanna do is look cool, celebrate after plays, and get more followers on Instagram!" I told him that they might actually have it figured out.”
Mendenhall has that figured out. And I, for one, concur.
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