:MERGED: Westbrooks Knee & PHI RB situation (1 Viewer)

[Whizzinator]

Carroll has been scooping the baseball beat guys for a couple years, and the reason is simple: he's pretty active in following up leads, checking out reported symptoms against possible causes, and talking to a lot of doctors and trainers. Mort, Clayton, etc don't do any of that...they wait for a leak from a source and that's it.

Carroll definitely can get ahead of himself on stories, and he very much is trying to make a name for himself. But just because you haven't heard of him don't think he isn't an established expert in the area, either...he is, and has been for several years. You just had to follow baseball to know.

 

[Snotbubbles]

it's hard for me to imagine why over these last few years Philadelphia hasn't aquired a running back who can run the football like a normal running back. Westy is a weapon but he's not a 300 carry guy. Not even 250. I'm thinking this but also wondering the same thing about their WR position although they've tried a little harder in this area and had bad luck.

San Fransisco in 1988 was the only instance I could find where a team ran the West Coast Offense and had a 300+ carry RB in the same year they won the Superbowl.1996 Green Bay: Edgar Bennett only had 222 carries.1994 SF: Ricky Watters only had 239 carries.1989 SF: Roger Craig only had 271 carries.The WCO is more about using the short pass instead of the run. For that purpose Westbrook may be the perfect back for this type of offense.

 

[Swanny]

Can those same guys that Tivo'd the show and confirmed that "herniated discs" were mentioned in reference to Caddy also confirm that "cartilage problem/bone on bone" was mentioned in reference to Westbrook?

I'm wondering how this show obtains such in depth injury information. I heard Westbrook on Sirius and he definitely didn't allude to a lingering cartilage problem - now obviously he is probably going to downplay the problem/injury, but it really didn't sound like much of a concern.

 

[beavers]

Westbrook is in Sunday's game plan...

I am starting to wonder if Westbrook's injury status is equal to Tom Brady's status... Always on the reports, always plays.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15577904.htm

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

How is Moats not the backup there? Kid had some monster games at the end of last season, and now he's fallen off the map?

C. Buckhalter. He runs harder and more North-South.Moats is like Westy - but less talented.

For those of us in PPR, which one would get the bulk of the passes, or would that be split fairly evenly. In ppr, it doesn't matter if Buckhalter runs hard for 15-20 carries and 70 yards and has 1 catch for 10 yds. if moats is getting 10 yards rushing but puts up 6 catches for 60 yards each game he would be the guy I'd want.

Moats would be more of the recevier.Should Westy go down, Moats would be used about 50/50 with C-Buck, but most passes would go towards him. CBuck is more of a classic between the tackles runner.I'd say if Westy would have 15 pass plays and 15 runs geared towards him in a game, without him it would be 12/3 pass/run to Ryan and vice versa for CBuck.

 

[hammerd]

Westbrook is in Sunday's game plan...

I am starting to wonder if Westbrook's injury status is equal to Tom Brady's status... Always on the reports, always plays.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15577904.htm

As much as I would love to see Westbrook play this Sunday, I wouldn't necessarily put up a smiley emoticon after reading this news blurb. Sounds like it's not a certainty he's playing yet.Sure he's in the gameplan, but at the same time, they're planning for him not playing too.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Moats would be more of the recevier.Should Westy go down, Moats would be used about 50/50 with C-Buck, but most passes would go towards him. CBuck is more of a classic between the tackles runner.I'd say if Westy would have 15 pass plays and 15 runs geared towards him in a game, without him it would be 12/3 pass/run to Ryan and vice versa for CBuck.

Actually the way I see it is Moats would get about 50% of Westbrook's carries and Buck would get the other 50%.Then assuming Reno Mahe is healthy, he'd split the Westbrook receptions with Buck, not Moats.

 

[beavers]

Westbrook is in Sunday's game plan...

I am starting to wonder if Westbrook's injury status is equal to Tom Brady's status... Always on the reports, always plays.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15577904.htm

As much as I would love to see Westbrook play this Sunday, I wouldn't necessarily put up a smiley emoticon after reading this news blurb. Sounds like it's not a certainty he's playing yet.Sure he's in the gameplan, but at the same time, they're planning for him not playing too.

Westbrook is like a high-risk stock... High risk /High reward (I'm in a PPR league).Since Westbrook has the "injury prone" label, I think this is going to be the norm throughout the season. Even though he's going to be on the injury report every week, my guess is that he'll most likely play until he can't play anymore. He's going to do everything he can to get out on the field.

If an owner can't handle the high risk / high reward then trade him away. But be prepared to deal with this every week.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

He sure didn't look limited last weekend.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Moats would be more of the recevier.Should Westy go down, Moats would be used about 50/50 with C-Buck, but most passes would go towards him. CBuck is more of a classic between the tackles runner.I'd say if Westy would have 15 pass plays and 15 runs geared towards him in a game, without him it would be 12/3 pass/run to Ryan and vice versa for CBuck.

Actually the way I see it is Moats would get about 50% of Westbrook's carries and Buck would get the other 50%.Then assuming Reno Mahe is healthy, he'd split the Westbrook receptions with Buck, not Moats.

agree with this, and i would also take into account that philly will probably go away from any pass-to-rb plays, further diminishing the rb value in philly. cbuck/mahe/moats will not be worth much this year imo even if westbrook takes time off, but mcnabb's value would increase significantly. maybe we'll see reggie brown finally catch enough passes to be worth a damn. as a westbrook owner, i don't see handcuff value here at all. cbuck won't even get all of the goal line carries in that offense.

 

[#@%&$!?]

Moats would be more of the recevier.Should Westy go down, Moats would be used about 50/50 with C-Buck, but most passes would go towards him. CBuck is more of a classic between the tackles runner.I'd say if Westy would have 15 pass plays and 15 runs geared towards him in a game, without him it would be 12/3 pass/run to Ryan and vice versa for CBuck.

Actually the way I see it is Moats would get about 50% of Westbrook's carries and Buck would get the other 50%.Then assuming Reno Mahe is healthy, he'd split the Westbrook receptions with Buck, not Moats.

agree with this, and i would also take into account that philly will probably go away from any pass-to-rb plays, further diminishing the rb value in philly. cbuck/mahe/moats will not be worth much this year imo even if westbrook takes time off, but mcnabb's value would increase significantly. maybe we'll see reggie brown finally catch enough passes to be worth a damn. as a westbrook owner, i don't see handcuff value here at all. cbuck won't even get all of the goal line carries in that offense.

I'm not completely sold on SF's turnaround. If philly builds an early lead, I can see buckhalter used to run down the clock late game.

 

[chocolate bomber]

Westbrook is in Sunday's game plan...

I am starting to wonder if Westbrook's injury status is equal to Tom Brady's status... Always on the reports, always plays.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15577904.htm

Get ready for this every week. In a PPR league, you must start him unless he's declared OUT. I doubt many people in competitive PPR leagues honestly have two better options in front of him. I will ride him until this injury report bites me in the ####.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Moats would be more of the recevier.

Should Westy go down, Moats would be used about 50/50 with C-Buck, but most passes would go towards him. CBuck is more of a classic between the tackles runner.

I'd say if Westy would have 15 pass plays and 15 runs geared towards him in a game, without him it would be 12/3 pass/run to Ryan and vice versa for CBuck.

Actually the way I see it is Moats would get about 50% of Westbrook's carries and Buck would get the other 50%.Then assuming Reno Mahe is healthy, he'd split the Westbrook receptions with Buck, not Moats.

agree with this, and i would also take into account that philly will probably go away from any pass-to-rb plays, further diminishing the rb value in philly. cbuck/mahe/moats will not be worth much this year imo even if westbrook takes time off, but mcnabb's value would increase significantly. maybe we'll see reggie brown finally catch enough passes to be worth a damn. as a westbrook owner, i don't see handcuff value here at all. cbuck won't even get all of the goal line carries in that offense.

Reid will NOT go away from the pass to RB plays. Its an absolute staple of his offense. I'll admit I'm surprised Moats hasn't gotten a sniff of the field yet, but I don't see Mahe as a factor AT ALL. He's a special teamer. Bottom line, no one will have close to Westbrook's value, but Buck would make a decent #2 and Moats a decent flex play in PPR.

 

[beavers]

Moats would be more of the recevier.Should Westy go down, Moats would be used about 50/50 with C-Buck, but most passes would go towards him. CBuck is more of a classic between the tackles runner.I'd say if Westy would have 15 pass plays and 15 runs geared towards him in a game, without him it would be 12/3 pass/run to Ryan and vice versa for CBuck.

Actually the way I see it is Moats would get about 50% of Westbrook's carries and Buck would get the other 50%.Then assuming Reno Mahe is healthy, he'd split the Westbrook receptions with Buck, not Moats.

agree with this, and i would also take into account that philly will probably go away from any pass-to-rb plays, further diminishing the rb value in philly. cbuck/mahe/moats will not be worth much this year imo even if westbrook takes time off, but mcnabb's value would increase significantly. maybe we'll see reggie brown finally catch enough passes to be worth a damn. as a westbrook owner, i don't see handcuff value here at all. cbuck won't even get all of the goal line carries in that offense.

I totally agree... I have Westbrook and did not pick up cbuck or moats. It may burn me in the long run, but with limited bench space, I couldn't do it without dropping someone else.

 

[eoMMan]

610 WIP just said that he IS practicing today and should be good to go for Sunday.

 

[joffer]

610 WIP just said that he IS practicing today and should be good to go for Sunday.

HAPPY ####IN

 

[beavers]

 

[rascal]

WOOT!!

Brian Westbrook (questionable, knee) returned to practice Friday.

Coach Andy Reid said Westbrook felt good coming off the field and indicated Westbrook should start Sunday. The swelling in Westbrook's knee is down and he looks safe to start against San Francisco.

Rotoworld

BTW...

In case anybody missed it. During last weeks game the announcers were talking about how Westbrook admitted that CBuck is faster then he is, and then immediately after that CBuck had that amazing play were he ran for like 50 yards and made multiple people miss (think he ended up getting back to the line of scrimmage).

I think Cbuck is the better handcuff IMO.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

 

[Snotbubbles]

Reid will NOT go away from the pass to RB plays. Its an absolute staple of his offense. I'll admit I'm surprised Moats hasn't gotten a sniff of the field yet, but I don't see Mahe as a factor AT ALL. He's a special teamer.

What gives you the impression that Moats will see the RB receptions IF Westbrook got hurt. He surely didn't see them in 2005 when Westbrook missed 4 games. Mahe was the one Reid used in those situations, not Moats.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

WOOT!!Brian Westbrook (questionable, knee) returned to practice Friday.Coach Andy Reid said Westbrook felt good coming off the field and indicated Westbrook should start Sunday. The swelling in Westbrook's knee is down and he looks safe to start against San Francisco. Rotoworld

 

[FantasyGuru#1]

WOOT!!Brian Westbrook (questionable, knee) returned to practice Friday.Coach Andy Reid said Westbrook felt good coming off the field and indicated Westbrook should start Sunday. The swelling in Westbrook's knee is down and he looks safe to start against San Francisco. Rotoworld

So I guess these Espn reports are off then..