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gregjcross
Footballguy
Watch Armando Salguero's blog, this changes by the minute Today "Changes coming to Dolphins lineup: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/
Brutis
Footballguy
It seems that both Brown and RW are the types of backs who need carries to get into some sort of a rhythm. Its a shame that Soprano isnt smart enough to figure that out. I guess he doesnt mind the lack of running game that is sure to follow all year.
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Footballguy
I guess you own both?Ronnie is getting more 1st team reps this week and has moved ahead of Ricky on the depth charts. They'll both get carries again this week with maybe Ronnie getting the majority.
ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
Which is exactly why I'm dropping Ricky. Ronnie looked much crisper than Ricky on Sunday.
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Footballguy
Agreed.Rotoworld . . .
Ronnie Brown worked ahead of Ricky Williams at Dolphins practice Wednesday.
The Dolphins' staff has made formal depth chart switches in practice at several other positions in the last few weeks (e.g. free safety, wide receiver) and we could have another one here. Williams took first-team handoffs throughout training camp and the preseason. While a carry split is still certain for Week 2, Brown is the more valuable fantasy back if he's starting. Sep. 10 - 1:36 pm et
Source: Miami Herald
gregjcross
Footballguy
Note; Last night's updated official Dolphins depth chart did not change at the tailback position but it was updated (left blank compared to last week) for a new OG and new FB after the cut of Boomer Grigsby. Ricky Williams still tops the halfback position on the Depth Chart regardless of what happened at practice today.
Sparano is the only word that matters.
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Todem
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The team was not happy with their OL play at all and Thomas our rookie suprise at LG is out for the year after he tore up his ankle in the first quarter but continued to play on it the entire game.
As a homer my best guess at this point of the wekk is Ricky will start again. But I don't think it is really going to matter. This will be a 2 back attack all season long.
Ronnie owners think he looked crisper (he looked decent)....but Ricky also ran very hard (and was very quick to the tiny cracks they called holes last Sunday) and was wide open for an easy TD pass that Chad missed him on. Both backs were not that impressive in reality. The running game stunk. Also they were throwing out Patrick Cobbs on 3rd downs (dumb move) and that will not happen this week IMO.
This is going to be a fantasy nightmare for those who were banking on Ronnie as their RB2. Those of us using Ricky as weekly flex option at RB3 (when needed) are still sitting pretty because he will be heavily involved enough each week to give us the 7-10 points we are trying to get out of him as a flex therefore eating into the production Ronnie owners were thinking they were going to get. I have been singing the same song since May. Ronnie is not going to be a workhorse back with this team as long as Ricky is healthy and running hard and Parcells and Sparano are running the show. And chances are based on Ronnie history he will miss some time again this year as he always seems to and Ricky will carry the load those games he may be out. I am not one who predicts injuries but it is well known that you always can expect certain players to miss games every year if that has been their MO in the league. Ronnie is one of those guys that seems to always get either banged up (sprained thumbs) or suffer big injuries (broken wrist, shredded knee)
As a homer my best guess at this point of the wekk is Ricky will start again. But I don't think it is really going to matter. This will be a 2 back attack all season long.
Ronnie owners think he looked crisper (he looked decent)....but Ricky also ran very hard (and was very quick to the tiny cracks they called holes last Sunday) and was wide open for an easy TD pass that Chad missed him on. Both backs were not that impressive in reality. The running game stunk. Also they were throwing out Patrick Cobbs on 3rd downs (dumb move) and that will not happen this week IMO.
This is going to be a fantasy nightmare for those who were banking on Ronnie as their RB2. Those of us using Ricky as weekly flex option at RB3 (when needed) are still sitting pretty because he will be heavily involved enough each week to give us the 7-10 points we are trying to get out of him as a flex therefore eating into the production Ronnie owners were thinking they were going to get. I have been singing the same song since May. Ronnie is not going to be a workhorse back with this team as long as Ricky is healthy and running hard and Parcells and Sparano are running the show. And chances are based on Ronnie history he will miss some time again this year as he always seems to and Ricky will carry the load those games he may be out. I am not one who predicts injuries but it is well known that you always can expect certain players to miss games every year if that has been their MO in the league. Ronnie is one of those guys that seems to always get either banged up (sprained thumbs) or suffer big injuries (broken wrist, shredded knee)
sholditch
Footballguy
Umm, OK Ricky owner, thanks for the unbiased opinion...
Here is the reality: Ronnie did better than Ricky the first game. Higher ypc, higher ypr, with fewer carries. Ricky averaged 2.4. Ronnie is younger. Ronnie is higher paid. Ronnie could easily play into the clubs future plans. Ricky is older, just as injury-prone, and can't figure into the Dolphins longterm plans.
This is going exactly how everyone said it would: Ricky will start at the beginning of the season until Ronnie Brown gets back to full speed. It's clear that Ronnie's recovery has gone very well and that he looks like the better back as early as right now. My money is that he starts this week and sees about 60% of the carries. After this week 65%-75%.
Here is the reality: Ronnie did better than Ricky the first game. Higher ypc, higher ypr, with fewer carries. Ricky averaged 2.4. Ronnie is younger. Ronnie is higher paid. Ronnie could easily play into the clubs future plans. Ricky is older, just as injury-prone, and can't figure into the Dolphins longterm plans.
This is going exactly how everyone said it would: Ricky will start at the beginning of the season until Ronnie Brown gets back to full speed. It's clear that Ronnie's recovery has gone very well and that he looks like the better back as early as right now. My money is that he starts this week and sees about 60% of the carries. After this week 65%-75%.
Pied Piper
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Anyone who isn't blind could see that Ronnie was running better than Ricky. It was very clear. Ricky looked his age. This is also why Ronnie is taking more first team snaps at practice this week. Barring a setback with his knee injury, I expect Ronnie to start.Todem said:
Max Power
Footballguy
Sorry, I might be out of the loop on this one, but what has Ricky Williams done in the last 5 years or so to warrent such optimism?
Thats great he looked good in practice and the pre-season. Outshined a recovering Ronnie Brown.
In the first real action, Ronnie looked hands down the better back. I'll just say I am skeptical Ricky Williams keeps a significant role in this offense. I really expect to see Ronnie as a 20+ carry back by week 4.
Thats great he looked good in practice and the pre-season. Outshined a recovering Ronnie Brown.
In the first real action, Ronnie looked hands down the better back. I'll just say I am skeptical Ricky Williams keeps a significant role in this offense. I really expect to see Ronnie as a 20+ carry back by week 4.
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sholditch
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I got the point, I just disagree that RB will be in an even split all year. If that's why he won't be a no.2. If you think the line is so bad that he won't be a viable #2 getting 65%+ of the carries, then that's a different story as I know nothing about their line.
Todem
Footballguy
That is a work in progress and should get better as the year wears on.
SupaDupaTD
Footballguy
Lifetime Dolphin fan who owns neither Ricky nor Ronnie here. There is no doubt that Ronnie played better against the Jets, but as an earlier poster insinuated they are both really the kinds of running backs who get better as the game goes on. Even when Ricky was in his heyday, he'd start out with an average first half and then really put the game away with some big runs in the second. Ronnie showed that same promise and fourth quarter prowess, too. It'd be better for the team - and fantasy owners - if one of them just got hot and they could run with it, but it doesn't look like that will be the case. They both seem to like sharing time, (and by all accounts are friends and happy about it), so that should continue for the foreseeable future.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
Doesn't Ricky Williams have a pretty long list of injuries throughout his career as well? I remember him missing time in his first two years, and I believe he broke his leg in the CFL, and last year he lasted about one play before being out for the season. He seems as brittle as RB.Todem said:
I agree that Ronnie looked a little more sharp in the Jets game. However, what was the most telling to me was that Ricky Williams was the RB in the game on that final drive. I'm not sure if it is bc he is better at pass block or just a better receiver. However, I think it showed who the coaches were counting on when it mattered.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
This thing is just ugly. With RB's injury one would think they would work him in slowly. And now he's working with the first team? As a RW and non RB owner, I'm not really happy, but RW was nothing more than a novelty and a long shot for my squad.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
To put this in the simplest terms....
RBBC
RBBC
If you think Ronnie played better than Ricky you didnt watch the game.
Every time Ricky was in, there was an 8-man front waiting for him.
Brown also missed a block that led to a huge sack, and lined up incorrectly forcing us to burn a timeout in the 4th Q. Those are big mistakes that will keep him from getting more touches.
Every time Ricky was in, there was an 8-man front waiting for him.
Brown also missed a block that led to a huge sack, and lined up incorrectly forcing us to burn a timeout in the 4th Q. Those are big mistakes that will keep him from getting more touches.
-jb-
Footballguy
what do you make of him taking first team snaps? i didn't see the game, just the stats.
Max Power
Footballguy
yet a pair of fumbles by Ricky keeps him in the game because...?
BigJim®
Footballguy
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