Michael Turner- Offseason 2008 (1 Viewer)

[J R]

I think some folks will allow the nonsense that infected this board to cloud their opinions about what happens with Turner.

He has very low mileage, and the kind of body and style NFL teams crave in their running backs. He's thick, runs low, and has breakaway speed. There's no red flags that suggest he can't handle a heavy workload, and has done well against NFL teams, unlike every kid in college. He's gotten less action this year, but has his stock dropped? I dunno.

But it only takes one team to fall in love for him to get a big deal. And I don't think price will be as much of an issue. Almost every NFL team is in good shape, cap-wise.

I think only a few teams will make serious offers, but I think many teams will at least make a phone call.

Oakland? This Raider fan would love it, but I think they'll look elsewhere.

Cleveland? If I was Cleveland, I'd do it, I'm not a believer in Jamal.

Tennessee? They should. IMO.

Green Bay? Is Ryan Grant the answer? Either way, they have very little salary in the RB position.

Chicago? Probably not ready to give up on Ced.

Arizona? Why not? Should at least discuss it. I am unaware of Edge's contract status.

Atlanta? For sure. they need a proven back right away.

Denver? Again, I think they should look at him, but i don't think they will.

Interesting. Here's contract info on James. He might be an affordable cut.A couple of other teams: Miami (depending on Brown's injury)? Carolina? Williams has looked good in limited carries, but maybe there's actually a good reason Carolina limits his carries, since they otherwise give them to an ineffective Foster.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

He's overrated on FF forums. He's a career backup.

Why do you think this?

Based on what I've seen, I haven't seen nearly every game he's played mind you, I don't think he will cut it as a full time 25+ carry guy every week.

That'd be 400 carries - I don't think that anybody cuts it as that.

 

[zamboni]

Found this little blurb on Turner regarding the Bears.

Other than conjecture, I haven't heard anything beyond this seemingly off-the-cuff comment by a beat writer. Perhaps the Bears homers can comment on the local interest (particularly given that Turner is from Chicago and went to Northern Illinois).

The Bears' top target is rumored to be the Chargers' Michael Turner.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-2...,1,869558.story

 

[Interseptopus]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...

If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

 

[zamboni]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

Haven't heard that rumor, although we did see Ladell Betts go for a discount to stay put - so you never know. I'm guessing that he senses that this is his first and last chance to get a bigger contract and be the guy, and will go that direction.As for the comparisons with Jordan and Taylor, we've discussed this ad nauseum in other threads. Jordan was a notorious whiner that became a fat cat after getting paid - from most accounts, Turner is much more humble. As for Taylor, he played very well in his only starting season. He just had the misfortune that Peterson slipped in the draft to the Vikes.

 

[Interseptopus]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...

If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

Haven't heard that rumor, although we did see Ladell Betts go for a discount to stay put - so you never know. I'm guessing that he senses that this is his first and last chance to get a bigger contract and be the guy, and will go that direction.As for the comparisons with Jordan and Taylor, we've discussed this ad nauseum in other threads. Jordan was a notorious whiner that became a fat cat after getting paid - from most accounts, Turner is much more humble. As for Taylor, he played very well in his only starting season. He just had the misfortune that Peterson slipped in the draft to the Vikes.

per ESPN a couple months ago about his situation in SD. Not sure if that was just him throwing on a happy face to be a RFA with a 1&3 tender or if he was truly being honest. Maybe he's singing a different tune now that he's a UFA

 

[Cerwin]

 

[switz]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

Why do people keep saying this?Has your only exposure to Turner been at the NFL level? Did you ever see him in college?I stated before the NFL draft that he was a sleeper at RB, with potential to be a tpp-10 NFL RB. He has the size, the speed, the moves, the hands, he can block, and learning behind LT has only been GOOD for him. He is a far better running back than Jordan and Taylor.I just get the impression the naysayers really just don't know much about Turner

 

[toxicbees]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

 

[switz]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

What exactly is the "Sproles factor"?Also, how deep is this class? McFadden, Jones, Stewart, Mendethall? All of them have serious question marks... outside of them there is nothing at the RB position IMO.

 

[toxicbees]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

What exactly is the "Sproles factor"?Also, how deep is this class? McFadden, Jones, Stewart, Mendethall? All of them have serious question marks... outside of them there is nothing at the RB position IMO.

The Sproles factor is the fact that Sproles lit it up in garbage time, just like Turner has in previous games. Which diminishes the value of Turner's garbage time stats.I would throw guys like Rice, Hart and Slaton into that list. That's 7 RBs, a couple of which can be gotten in later rounds, which means they'll be way cheaper than Turner.

 

[zamboni]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

I think there will plenty of demand for him, but I do think that visions of a Lamont Jordan-like payday may be far-fetched. Recent big FA signings at the RB position (e.g., Jordan, Edge and Green) aren't helping Turner's cause for big money.Also, while teams will likely be impressed with his skills, even with limited carries, he wasn't as impressive this year as he was last year. Of course, we could say the same for LT himself.

 

[zamboni]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

What exactly is the "Sproles factor"?Also, how deep is this class? McFadden, Jones, Stewart, Mendethall? All of them have serious question marks... outside of them there is nothing at the RB position IMO.

The Sproles factor is the fact that Sproles lit it up in garbage time, just like Turner has in previous games. Which diminishes the value of Turner's garbage time stats.

Sproles had one big game. Turner has performed well in several games over the years, and not just in garbage time. I think Maurile has a breakdown in one of these threads that shows it wasn't just garbage time that Turner put up very good numbers.

 

[switz]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

What exactly is the "Sproles factor"?Also, how deep is this class? McFadden, Jones, Stewart, Mendethall? All of them have serious question marks... outside of them there is nothing at the RB position IMO.

The Sproles factor is the fact that Sproles lit it up in garbage time, just like Turner has in previous games. Which diminishes the value of Turner's garbage time stats.

Evidentiary submission #1 of how you don't know much about Turner.In 2006 only 18 f his carries came in the 4th quarter when they had more than a TD lead, and his YPC in that situation was 5.2 He has a 7.8 YPC in the 1st quarter. It's 5.8 YPC in the second quarter. And this year he has a 6.2 YPC in the first half.Yep, garbage time

 

[switz]

I would throw guys like Rice, Hart and Slaton into that list. That's 7 RBs, a couple of which can be gotten in later rounds, which means they'll be way cheaper than Turner.

But they won't be nearly as good as Turner, in fact some of them won't even make opening day rosters...

 

[Max Power]

Found this little blurb on Turner regarding the Bears.

Other than conjecture, I haven't heard anything beyond this seemingly off-the-cuff comment by a beat writer. Perhaps the Bears homers can comment on the local interest (particularly given that Turner is from Chicago and went to Northern Illinois).

The Bears' top target is rumored to be the Chargers' Michael Turner.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-2...,1,869558.story

The word is that someone in the upper tier of the Bears Organization is infatuated with Michael Turner. However the Bears will not be breaking the bank to sign him. If they can get him at a good market price, they will. As a Bears Fan though, I wouldn't be too thrilled with this move. Benson is a slightly below average back who played behind a below average line and produced terrible stats. If the Line Doesn't improve, it wont matter who we have running the ball. Turner SHOULD NOT BE the bears #1 priority.

 

[cstu]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.-=kwantam(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

 

[cstu]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

I think there will plenty of demand for him, but I do think that visions of a Lamont Jordan-like payday may be far-fetched. Recent big FA signings at the RB position (e.g., Jordan, Edge and Green) aren't helping Turner's cause for big money.Also, while teams will likely be impressed with his skills, even with limited carries, he wasn't as impressive this year as he was last year. Of course, we could say the same for LT himself.

The Raiders didn't break the bank with Jordan and with the increased cap Turner should get a similar deal.

LaMont Jordan, the top free-agent running back on the market, signed a five-year deal worth $27.5 million -- including a $7 million signing bonus -- on Thursday. Jordan will receive $11million in guaranteed money and $17.8 million over the first three years of the contract, including $15.7 in bonuses.

 

[Duke1948]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds.

don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

 

[Couch Potato]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

 

[switz]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds. don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

Hmmm... 228 carries, 1257 yards, 6 TDs... sounds like a decent season to me...What's interesting is that Turner has been rather consistent... a good game (YPC-wise) is not an aberration with him, it's the norm.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

The Bears make perfect sense, and if they really let Berrian and Briggs walk, money won't be an obstacle.

 

[SigEp316]

I just hope he doesn't turn out to be Kevan Barlow

 

[switz]

I just hope he doesn't turn out to be Kevan Barlow

He won't.

 

[cstu]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stuck with Green since he has a reasonable contract, but it's also one that makes it easy to cut him ($3.8M 2008 salary vs. ~$4.5M cap hit for his remaining bonus). I imagine they'll plan to go with Green but try to make a play for Turner and cut Green if they get him. I could also envision a Turner/Green backfield for a year, which would certainly be better than re-signing Dayne.

 

[eagles2007]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds. don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

i don't know how sad any of us will really be. yeah, we expect him to be good, but at this point, we just want him to get a chance. i see no reason why he can't be as good as chester taylor. if he fails, at least he's only on our roster another year or so.

 

[coolnerd]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stuck with Green since he has a reasonable contract, but it's also one that makes it easy to cut him ($3.8M 2008 salary vs. ~$4.5M cap hit for his remaining bonus). I imagine they'll plan to go with Green but try to make a play for Turner and cut Green if they get him. I could also envision a Turner/Green backfield for a year, which would certainly be better than re-signing Dayne.

As today, something along those lines seems to be the plan. See if Green is healthy, resign Dayne because he given the Texans a little something, but really bring either a younger veteran RB or draft choice to be the lead guy.

 

[snarfsnarf]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stuck with Green since he has a reasonable contract, but it's also one that makes it easy to cut him ($3.8M 2008 salary vs. ~$4.5M cap hit for his remaining bonus). I imagine they'll plan to go with Green but try to make a play for Turner and cut Green if they get him. I could also envision a Turner/Green backfield for a year, which would certainly be better than re-signing Dayne.

As today, something along those lines seems to be the plan. See if Green is healthy, resign Dayne because he given the Texans a little something, but really bring either a younger veteran RB or draft choice to be the lead guy.

As a Texans fan, those plans suck. With no second round pick they would be pinning their hopes on Green, Dayne, and a RB that slips to the 3rd. Why not sign Turner.

 

[coolnerd]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stuck with Green since he has a reasonable contract, but it's also one that makes it easy to cut him ($3.8M 2008 salary vs. ~$4.5M cap hit for his remaining bonus). I imagine they'll plan to go with Green but try to make a play for Turner and cut Green if they get him. I could also envision a Turner/Green backfield for a year, which would certainly be better than re-signing Dayne.

As today, something along those lines seems to be the plan. See if Green is healthy, resign Dayne because he given the Texans a little something, but really bring either a younger veteran RB or draft choice to be the lead guy.

As a Texans fan, those plans suck. With no second round pick they would be pinning their hopes on Green, Dayne, and a RB that slips to the 3rd. Why not sign Turner.

I think either a younger veteran RB i.e. Turner or whoever they can sign or a draft pick. I am piecing this from Kubiak's comments, the media, and a "source"Also, remember when we line-up this player should go here or there, that the player(s) have control. Even if the team offers the most money and a clear path to a job, it is not just go sign whoever.

 

[code]

:sehorn:

 

[cstu]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stuck with Green since he has a reasonable contract, but it's also one that makes it easy to cut him ($3.8M 2008 salary vs. ~$4.5M cap hit for his remaining bonus). I imagine they'll plan to go with Green but try to make a play for Turner and cut Green if they get him. I could also envision a Turner/Green backfield for a year, which would certainly be better than re-signing Dayne.

As today, something along those lines seems to be the plan. See if Green is healthy, resign Dayne because he given the Texans a little something, but really bring either a younger veteran RB or draft choice to be the lead guy.

As a Texans fan, those plans suck. With no second round pick they would be pinning their hopes on Green, Dayne, and a RB that slips to the 3rd. Why not sign Turner.

I think either a younger veteran RB i.e. Turner or whoever they can sign or a draft pick. I am piecing this from Kubiak's comments, the media, and a "source"Also, remember when we line-up this player should go here or there, that the player(s) have control. Even if the team offers the most money and a clear path to a job, it is not just go sign whoever.

It is up to Turner but Houston should be very attractive to him - young playmakers on offense and a good young defense. Not much more you could ask for as a free agent.

 

[Loan Sharks]

First blush, I'd say HOU or NYJ. The latter, if they really think they need a RB, could take McFadden (currently picking #4) instead, but hopefully they're smarter than that.

-=kwantam

(of course, for the most part teams at the top of the draft are there because they aren't smart...)

The Texans would be one of the most likely places to me. They obviously need a RB and are short on draft picks since their 2nd is going to the Falcons.

I had thought so too, but the Texans said this week they'll be bringing Ahman Green back and hope to re-sign Dayne too. A lot can change, so we'll see if they follow through on that or if it was just noise.

It wouldn't surprise me if they stuck with Green since he has a reasonable contract, but it's also one that makes it easy to cut him ($3.8M 2008 salary vs. ~$4.5M cap hit for his remaining bonus). I imagine they'll plan to go with Green but try to make a play for Turner and cut Green if they get him. I could also envision a Turner/Green backfield for a year, which would certainly be better than re-signing Dayne.

As today, something along those lines seems to be the plan. See if Green is healthy, resign Dayne because he given the Texans a little something, but really bring either a younger veteran RB or draft choice to be the lead guy.

As a Texans fan, those plans suck. With no second round pick they would be pinning their hopes on Green, Dayne, and a RB that slips to the 3rd. Why not sign Turner.

I think Darius Walker may make them comfortable running with what they have.

 

[Gridiron King]

I imagine everyone on this board owns Turner in some dynasty league hoping he will land on some new team because he supposedly is better then half the backs in the league. Yeah right, keep dreaming about Turner being a top ten back in the next couple of years.

 

[Onions]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds. don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

You realize that's 5.51 yards per carry, right?

 

[Smizzy]

He's overrated on FF forums. He's a career backup.

So were Willie Parker, Earnest Graham, Ryan Grant, Marion Barber (still is), Justin Fargas, Kenny Watson, and Brandon Jacobs.

Grant is a rookie, Parker was a 2nd year player, and Brandon Jacobs was pegged for the starter's job midway through his 2nd year.

 

[cws3030]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

you could put priest holmes in the same category and that turned out ok. i'm not saying he's the next priest holmes but somewhere between him and chester taylor, imo.

 

[zamboni]

I hate to say it, but I think there's a good chance he stays in SD. I don't think there will be very much demand for him. This draft is pretty deep at the RB position, and that will hurt Turner's value. I also think the Sproles factor can't be overlooked.

I think there will plenty of demand for him, but I do think that visions of a Lamont Jordan-like payday may be far-fetched. Recent big FA signings at the RB position (e.g., Jordan, Edge and Green) aren't helping Turner's cause for big money.Also, while teams will likely be impressed with his skills, even with limited carries, he wasn't as impressive this year as he was last year. Of course, we could say the same for LT himself.

The Raiders didn't break the bank with Jordan and with the increased cap Turner should get a similar deal.

LaMont Jordan, the top free-agent running back on the market, signed a five-year deal worth $27.5 million -- including a $7 million signing bonus -- on Thursday. Jordan will receive $11million in guaranteed money and $17.8 million over the first three years of the contract, including $15.7 in bonuses.

Depends which bank you're talking about, but I'd say that's quite a bit of coin they gave Jordan. Even with an increased cap, I don't think Turner will get near that number after the aforementioned failure of Jordan and other high-profile FA RBs, coupled with teams successfully finding RBs later in the draft. Again, I think Turner will land a starting gig, but the money won't be that huge IMO.

 

[Banger]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds. don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

You realize that's 5.51 yards per carry, right?

Ya but all those 228 carries were when the other team wasn't trying. I own him in no dynasty league but would love to have him. If he lands in the right situation, Carolina, Texans, Titans he will be a very good producer. The naysayers obviously haven't seen him run and are predicting his failure based on other backups that haven't had much success as starters. Turner could have been an effective starter for probably 1/2 the teams in the NFL this year.

 

[Wu-banger]

Becoming very evident....

where ever Turner lands , it appears he will be very hyped and probably not be a great value pick in redrafts and over paid for in trade in dynasty leagues.

think I might stay away from him this offseason.... too many variables.

 

[Banger]

Becoming very evident....where ever Turner lands , it appears he will be very hyped and probably not be a great value pick in redrafts and over paid for in trade in dynasty leagues.think I might stay away from him this offseason.... too many variables.

On these boards he is hyped (rightfully so IMO) but outside here I'm not sure he's viewed in nearly the same way.

 

[Wu-banger]

these boards normally provide public perception before it becomes public... if that makes sense.

 

[Banger]

these boards normally provide public perception before it becomes public... if that makes sense.

It does and I agree.

 

[Bankerguy]

I'm saying Dallas They kick JJ to the curb and have the best RB tandem in the league with Barber/Turner Wade knows him well and he would also do all the kick returns. This would happen of course because i own him in a keeper league and he would be rendered almost useless.

Count me in that group that believes he'll be here in '08.

My good friend Tex!!I have to say I don't agree with you this time. Turner is very similiar to Barber and brings the same skill set. If Barber goes to the Dolphins (Which has some rumors going on) then perhaps. I expect JJ to be gone and for them to draft a rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round as a replacement.

 

[PranksterJD]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds.

don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

You realize that's 5.51 yards per carry, right?

Ya but all those 228 carries were when the other team wasn't trying.

I own him in no dynasty league but would love to have him. If he lands in the right situation, Carolina, Texans, Titans he will be a very good producer. The naysayers obviously haven't seen him run and are predicting his failure based on other backups that haven't had much success as starters. Turner could have been an effective starter for probably 1/2 the teams in the NFL this year.

I don't have the stats in front of me, but if I remember correctly, Turner's YPC in the first half of games is actually higher than his YPC in the second, so I don't think this is accurate.

Becoming very evident....

where ever Turner lands , it appears he will be very hyped and probably not be a great value pick in redrafts and over paid for in trade in dynasty leagues.

think I might stay away from him this offseason.... too many variables.

On these boards he is hyped (rightfully so IMO) but outside here I'm not sure he's viewed in nearly the same way.

Both Turner enthusiasts and naysayers can agree that without the right situation ( like any other running back ), Turner isn't going to be a stud performer. I tend to agree with Wu-banger in that the time to buy Burner cheap is now in the rear-view. The issue is that most of the people drafting early are the shark variety and already know about him, and if he goes to the right situation then those drafting close to the season will have heard enough of his hype off pre-season rankings to know where he belongs. You may still be able to get him now in dynasties, but likely his owner is a guy like me who's been holding him for 2 years now. If Turner goes to a feature back situation, then he's going to have a late 2nd, early 3rd round ADP and you won't get nearly the upside you could have if you'd gotten on the bus a while back.ESPN covered this guy in detail during the trading window last year. He was on the rumors list almost every day. He may be a secret, but he's not a well kept one.

 

[Banger]

lots of great hopes here for a guy that over 4 years has 228 carries for 1257 and 6 tds.

don't own him in any leagues, he might do it, but if he fails there will be a lot of sad people on this board. not sure if there is a more discussed player the last year.

You realize that's 5.51 yards per carry, right?

Ya but all those 228 carries were when the other team wasn't trying.

I don't have the stats in front of me, but if I remember correctly, Turner's YPC in the first half of games is actually higher than his YPC in the second, so I don't think this is accurate.

I wasn't being serious..sometimes doesn't translate on message boards.

 

[southeastjerome]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

you could put priest holmes in the same category and that turned out ok. i'm not saying he's the next priest holmes but somewhere between him and chester taylor, imo.

Similarly (perhaps not so hyped) Ladell Betts resigned with Washington when he could have been a free agent. I guess it is not completely out of the question that Turner would stay in SD. On the other hand, while rumors might say that he's happy as being the backup, that doesn't often happen. I guess I would be more surprised if he said he doesn't really like it in SD and he wants out. Many athletes who are backups want to be "the man" just because they are competive and there's always the money factor. The Redskins gave Betts a 5 year/$11 million dollar deal. And that was for a guy who excelled when Portis went down last year and perhaps was viewed as necessary insurance for CP. Moreover he's a guy who is in line for more touches in comparison to Turner. That said, why would SD give Turner a deal as big or larger than Betts received if Turner is going to play less. And why would Turner take less when he sees what guys like Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor went out and got pretty nice deals.

 

[PranksterJD]

I wasn't being serious..sometimes doesn't translate on message boards.

 

[PranksterJD]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

you could put priest holmes in the same category and that turned out ok. i'm not saying he's the next priest holmes but somewhere between him and chester taylor, imo.

Similarly (perhaps not so hyped) Ladell Betts resigned with Washington when he could have been a free agent. I guess it is not completely out of the question that Turner would stay in SD. On the other hand, while rumors might say that he's happy as being the backup, that doesn't often happen. I guess I would be more surprised if he said he doesn't really like it in SD and he wants out. Many athletes who are backups want to be "the man" just because they are competive and there's always the money factor. The Redskins gave Betts a 5 year/$11 million dollar deal. And that was for a guy who excelled when Portis went down last year and perhaps was viewed as necessary insurance for CP. Moreover he's a guy who is in line for more touches in comparison to Turner. That said, why would SD give Turner a deal as big or larger than Betts received if Turner is going to play less. And why would Turner take less when he sees what guys like Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor went out and got pretty nice deals.

Seems to me like they'd have gotten this deal done last year and forgone the whole high tender war in the offseason if it was going to happen. That said, Betts only touched the ball 35 more times than Turner did this year, so he doesn't get **that** many more touches. From most people's standpoint, though, both on this board and ( it seems ) in the NFL, Betts has never had close to the upside that Turner does.

 

[Andy Herron]

First of all, I don't have Turner in any dynasty league.

I think Dallas will give him some real serious consideration.

While they will be re-signing Barber(don't think they won't), they won't be re-signing Julius Jones.

They like the RB tandem system, and Wade is familiar with Turner. The Cowboys always make some kind of splash in free agency, and will be in great shape cap-wise. They really don't have any glaring needs in other areas to spend free agency dollars, unless Terry Glenn retires, which is a strong possibility. Even with that, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that they would sign both Turner and a #2 or #3 WR, especially if they could get Turner at a reasonable price.

The Titans need WRs, not RBs.

The Bengals simply don't spend big in free agency, if at all. Although, Rudi Johnson will NOT be back.

The Raiders need anything BUT RBs, with Rhodes, Fargas, Jordan and Bush in the fold. Jordan will be let go, but I'm sure they are anxious to see what Bush can do and give him his shot. As well they should.

Even picking at #6, the Jets will still have a shot at McFadden. Even if they have to move up a spot or two.

The Browns will re-sign Lewis.

The Broncos are a possibility. Henry will probably not be back.

It's hard to tell what Detroit is ever thinking, but they rarely seem to make the right choice or decision.

Seattle just signed SA to a lucrative contract, and they have Morris. Just doesn't fit.

Right or wrong, Chicago will stick with Benson(and Peterson).

There's no telling what Atlanta is going to do, but QB and a coaching staff is their #1 priority right now.

I could definitely see the Texans getting into the Turner mix. While they paid a pretty price for Green, I don't know that health will be on his side from here on out. Dayne is a spare. Always has been, always will. Don't know that they want to bank on Walker.

And for him to stay in San Diego is a bunch of bologna. He's 26 and highly unlikely to be willing to sit behind LT the rest of his career.

 

[southeastjerome]

Rumor has it the guy loves being in SD... likes being LT's backup... wants to resign...If he goes elsewhere, don't expect much more than what Lamont Jordan, Chestor Taylor have shown us... a great backup but can't carry the whole load at RB

you could put priest holmes in the same category and that turned out ok. i'm not saying he's the next priest holmes but somewhere between him and chester taylor, imo.

Similarly (perhaps not so hyped) Ladell Betts resigned with Washington when he could have been a free agent. I guess it is not completely out of the question that Turner would stay in SD. On the other hand, while rumors might say that he's happy as being the backup, that doesn't often happen. I guess I would be more surprised if he said he doesn't really like it in SD and he wants out. Many athletes who are backups want to be "the man" just because they are competive and there's always the money factor. The Redskins gave Betts a 5 year/$11 million dollar deal. And that was for a guy who excelled when Portis went down last year and perhaps was viewed as necessary insurance for CP. Moreover he's a guy who is in line for more touches in comparison to Turner. That said, why would SD give Turner a deal as big or larger than Betts received if Turner is going to play less. And why would Turner take less when he sees what guys like Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor went out and got pretty nice deals.

Seems to me like they'd have gotten this deal done last year and forgone the whole high tender war in the offseason if it was going to happen. That said, Betts only touched the ball 35 more times than Turner did this year, so he doesn't get **that** many more touches. From most people's standpoint, though, both on this board and ( it seems ) in the NFL, Betts has never had close to the upside that Turner does.

I actually was comparing Betts' situation last year when he signed. Obviously he was in a position where the possibility of him seeing plenty of touches was a reasonable possibility given Portis' various health concerns and Betts' overall outstanding play when Portis went down. The same cannot be said for Turner as he heads into free agency this year. Bennett backs up the best there is at the RB position and perhaps one of the least injury prone RBs in football. In terms of touches this year though, you're correct. It is closer, but Betts still has 35% more touches. Looking deeper, Betts also has many more meaningful touches (i.e. Turner gets a lot of carries in blowouts when LT2 is rested, while the Redskins only blew one team out all year). And its probably fair to say that Betts is more likely to get more touches going forward if their situations were to remain the same. I think its fair to expect more carries out of Portis' back up who is also a big receiving threat than there is for LT2's backup. I guess my main point is, I don't see SD ponying up big bucks for a guy who will in all likelihood touch the ball less than 100 times per season over the next 2 seasons? And why would Turner take a Betts type contract when he can probably at least double the dollars of the contract with another team. Like you said (and I agree) Turner is probably viewed as having more upside than Betts and as a result would command more on the open market.