Michael Turner vs. the Vikings (1 Viewer)

[rockalum]

Projections? I was ready to bench him this week figuring it was a fluke by the Panthers against the Bucs on MNF. Glad I didn't. But I seriously don't think he can be counted on for more than 50 yards against the Vikings.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

70 and a touch seems about right.If Ryan does well he should get Turner a couple shots at the end zone.

Didnt Pat Williams get hurt yesterday? If so - bid deal for Turner.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Turner hasn't done as well on the road this year. He's still had some decent games, but in my league he's averaged:

Home: 23.4 pts / game

Road: 10 pts / game

 

[wildbill]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

 

[zamboni]

Turner hasn't done as well on the road this year. He's still had some decent games, but in my league he's averaged:Home: 23.4 pts / gameRoad: 10 pts / game

Turner's last three performances on the road:Week 14 @ NO: 18-61-1Week 13 @ SD: 31-120-0Week 9 @ OAK: 30-130-0Sure, he's done better at home and those weren't exactly the best defenses, but Turner has still produced regardless. The bottom line is that he's on a roll, and I wouldn't sit him for anyone right now, particularly with the team fighting for its playoff life.

 

[PatrickT]

Turner owners should take note that he had 2 receptions yesterday. That's twice as many as he's had in any other game, and half his total for the season. Now, does that mean throwing to Turner is going to be part of the game plan from here on, or was Ryan simply checking down after having thrown the two picks? I don't know, but I'll be listening to the coaches this week on that.

 

[DBomb]

Turner owners should take note that he had 2 receptions yesterday. That's twice as many as he's had in any other game, and half his total for the season. Now, does that mean throwing to Turner is going to be part of the game plan from here on, or was Ryan simply checking down after having thrown the two picks? I don't know, but I'll be listening to the coaches this week on that.

Exactly That could be a very big deal.

 

[zamboni]

Turner owners should take note that he had 2 receptions yesterday. That's twice as many as he's had in any other game, and half his total for the season. Now, does that mean throwing to Turner is going to be part of the game plan from here on, or was Ryan simply checking down after having thrown the two picks? I don't know, but I'll be listening to the coaches this week on that.

How fluid did he look on those grabs? It's been talked about that he's not a good receiver, but having Norwood out there has certainly limited the opportunities in the passing game for Turner.

 

[PatrickT]

Turner owners should take note that he had 2 receptions yesterday. That's twice as many as he's had in any other game, and half his total for the season. Now, does that mean throwing to Turner is going to be part of the game plan from here on, or was Ryan simply checking down after having thrown the two picks? I don't know, but I'll be listening to the coaches this week on that.

How fluid did he look on those grabs? It's been talked about that he's not a good receiver, but having Norwood out there has certainly limited the opportunities in the passing game for Turner.

He looked fine, very natural. Maybe they'll look at the film and see a way to get him past the Williams wall.

 

[zamboni]

Turner owners should take note that he had 2 receptions yesterday. That's twice as many as he's had in any other game, and half his total for the season. Now, does that mean throwing to Turner is going to be part of the game plan from here on, or was Ryan simply checking down after having thrown the two picks? I don't know, but I'll be listening to the coaches this week on that.

How fluid did he look on those grabs? It's been talked about that he's not a good receiver, but having Norwood out there has certainly limited the opportunities in the passing game for Turner.

He looked fine, very natural. Maybe they'll look at the film and see a way to get him past the Williams wall.

Good to know. For some reason, I thought he did catch the ball out of the backfield at Northern Illinois, but he hasn't been asked to do it that much at the pro level.

 

[The_Fonz]

I remember a game last year where everone said to bench Marion Barber against the Vikings....it may even have been 2 seasons ago. Point is that I played him and he exploded that day. I am not liking the matchup for my superbowl but hopefully he'll still have a good day. Are the Falcons completely out of it at this point?

 

[zamboni]

Are the Falcons completely out of it at this point?

They totally in it right now for a wild card berth - expect the Falcons to continue to lean heavily on Turner the next two weeks.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I've played him every week this year except week 2 @Tampa.

The idea that he'd suck yesterday because "the Bucs would be pissed" was of course ridiculous.

The home/road thing is overblown. Has a lot to do with a rookie QB playing tough D's in his first 2 career road starts in September.

All that notwithstanding I still don't like this matchup at all given that he's primarily a "between the tackles" runner and isn't a receiving threat.

Argghh, why can't he be playing the Rams this week?

 

[hotlanta]

Turner has been a Godsend to my fantasy team this year.

My only beef is that he'll be 27 in Feb. and really has only 3 good years left in his career. He stayed in SD a year or 2 too long! Why did he sign that 1 year deal anyway when he was a RFA?

 

[Major]

Turner has been a Godsend to my fantasy team this year.My only beef is that he'll be 27 in Feb. and really has only 3 good years left in his career. He stayed in SD a year or 2 too long! Why did he sign that 1 year deal anyway when he was a RFA?

He's more than made up for SJax with my 5th pick. Looks like I'll be benching him this week in favour of SJax.

 

[iSnitch]

Turner owners should take note that he had 2 receptions yesterday. That's twice as many as he's had in any other game, and half his total for the season. Now, does that mean throwing to Turner is going to be part of the game plan from here on, or was Ryan simply checking down after having thrown the two picks? I don't know, but I'll be listening to the coaches this week on that.

Exactly That could be a very big deal.

If he's going to start getting receptions as well I might starting crying with joy.

 

[joffer]

tough matchup for sure, but I don't see how you can bench him. and the receptions were a nice surprise.

 

[fantasyplayer]

tough matchup for sure, but I don't see how you can bench him. and the receptions were a nice surprise.

But what if the Vikings have some reason to be pissed? :(

 

[Bills_Fan11]

70 and a touch seems about right.If Ryan does well he should get Turner a couple shots at the end zone.

Didnt Pat Williams get hurt yesterday? If so - bid deal for Turner.

I just read this as well - left in the 3rd Qtr and had his arm in a sling. His status is huge.

 

[MDSkinner]

70 and a touch seems about right.If Ryan does well he should get Turner a couple shots at the end zone.

Didnt Pat Williams get hurt yesterday? If so - bid deal for Turner.

I just read this as well - left in the 3rd Qtr and had his arm in a sling. His status is huge.

I had not heard this. Definitely huge news here. Turner has been so good lately that it is tough to bench him, but Minny D is really good against the run and there are clearly options next week that would be potentially considered better than Turner. If Williams is out, there may not be any that are better.

 

[bcr8f]

Pro Bowl defensive tackle Pat Williams had his right arm in a sling in the locker room after injuring his shoulder in the third quarter.

Williams declined to comment. He is scheduled to have an MRI today.

"I wouldn't know how to characterize it until we get back to Minneapolis," coach Brad Childress said. "I just know that he's a tough guy and if there's any chance he can be in there, he's going to be in there."

 

[puckalicious]

70 and a touch seems about right.If Ryan does well he should get Turner a couple shots at the end zone.

Didnt Pat Williams get hurt yesterday? If so - bid deal for Turner.

I just read this as well - left in the 3rd Qtr and had his arm in a sling. His status is huge.

I had not heard this. Definitely huge news here. Turner has been so good lately that it is tough to bench him, but Minny D is really good against the run and there are clearly options next week that would be potentially considered better than Turner. If Williams is out, there may not be any that are better.

I am begging forgiveness for hoping for this to be a meaningful injury. My other options are Portis and CJ3 and they have been big letdowns lately.

 

[hwjchim]

After my ######ed post last week, I am sticking with Turner this week (luckily I forgot to bench him in 1 league).

But be warned though.

AP vs. Turner

It will be a big matchup. Both of these guys are (if I am correct) 1-2 in the league in rushing yards. I'm sure both teams/defenses know it very well so I'm sure they will try their best to hold the other guy the best that they can to help their teammate get a better chance to win the rushing title.

 

[MDSkinner]

After my ######ed post last week, I am sticking with Turner this week (luckily I forgot to bench him in 1 league).But be warned though.AP vs. TurnerIt will be a big matchup. Both of these guys are (if I am correct) 1-2 in the league in rushing yards. I'm sure both teams/defenses know it very well so I'm sure they will try their best to hold the other guy the best that they can to help their teammate get a better chance to win the rushing title.

This is a solid point, but I am not sure if it plays into the benefit of the players themselves (both Turner and AP playing up to the competition) or the defenses as a whole trying to stop them. You could make a strong argument either way I suppose.

 

[zamboni]

He's more than made up for SJax with my 5th pick. Looks like I'll be benching him this week in favour of SJax.

At the expense of being a WSIS thing, I would advise against benching Turner for S-Jax.

 

[encaitar]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD.

Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

 

[iSnitch]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD. Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

He's not called Turner the Burner because he's slow. He can shoot to the outside corner if need be. With how terrible the Viking's secondary is, Ryan should be able to move them into the redzone a few times. Turner has a solid chance of scoring at least one touchdown.

 

[puckalicious]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD. Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

The only 2 RB's with over 20 carries were the "between the tackle" types -Week 13: Forte 22/96/0 & 4/29/1Week 14: Smith 22/63/0 & 2/27/0Turner has 30+ carries in 2 out of the last 3 games and I expect this to continue. He has a good chance to do no worse than Smith in the YPC department and a very good shot at a TD. I'd say 80yds/TD is a very respectable projection. Regardless if Williams is out, Turner is a must start. He has scored at least 12 pts every week since week 8. Look at what he did against CAR! (24/117/4)

 

[encaitar]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD.

Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

He's not called Turner the Burner because he's slow. He can shoot to the outside corner if need be. With how terrible the Viking's secondary is, Ryan should be able to move them into the redzone a few times. Turner has a solid chance of scoring at least one touchdown.

This is what Arizona thought too.

 

[simey]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD.

Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

He's not called Turner the Burner because he's slow. He can shoot to the outside corner if need be. With how terrible the Viking's secondary is, Ryan should be able to move them into the redzone a few times. Turner has a solid chance of scoring at least one touchdown.

This is what Arizona thought too.

I think Atlanta is a better team than Arizona, and more balanced on offense too.

 

[ourmanflint]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD.

Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

He's not called Turner the Burner because he's slow. He can shoot to the outside corner if need be. With how terrible the Viking's secondary is, Ryan should be able to move them into the redzone a few times. Turner has a solid chance of scoring at least one touchdown.

This is what Arizona thought too.

I think Atlanta is a better team than Arizona, and more balanced on offense too.

No team could deal with the pressure Warner faced all day yesterday. He rarely had time to do anything other than dump off or throw it away. That's why Fitz and Boldin did nothing.

 

[PatrickT]

I think Turner's chances depend on how healthy Pat Williams is next week. If he's playing, then Turner is going to be lucky to get 60 yards and a TD.

Turner is a between the tackles type of guy and no one has been able to run between the tackles on the Vikings. The only way to beat the Vikings run defense is with speed to the corners and I can't see Turner doing that. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Pat Williams plays, don't count on too much from Turner.

He's not called Turner the Burner because he's slow. He can shoot to the outside corner if need be. With how terrible the Viking's secondary is, Ryan should be able to move them into the redzone a few times. Turner has a solid chance of scoring at least one touchdown.

This is what Arizona thought too.

I think Atlanta is a better team than Arizona, and more balanced on offense too.

No team could deal with the pressure Warner faced all day yesterday. He rarely had time to do anything other than dump off or throw it away. That's why Fitz and Boldin did nothing.

Plus, Minny jumped out to a huge early lead on the Berrian return, and TD catch, forcing Arizona's hand. We need to, as usual, get a fast start on the day, put up early points and get first blood. Then we can pound Turner and, hopefully, bring Snelling in a little bit, so we don't kill the man.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I think the idea that the Vikings secondary is terrible is mostly a myth based on stats that fails to take into account that a lot of teams don't even bother trying to run on them, which isn't necessarily a terrible idea. Sure ATL is more balanced than Arizona but that's not really a big key to beating Minny anyway.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I think the idea that the Vikings secondary is terrible is mostly a myth based on stats that fails to take into account that a lot of teams don't even bother trying to run on them, which isn't necessarily a terrible idea. Sure ATL is more balanced than Arizona but that's not really a big key to beating Minny anyway.

A lot of people that say their secondary is terrible are going off the last couple years. Their pass defense isn't great, but they aren't bad either. I'm not sure how the Falcons play with their running game. If they attack the edges they may have success running the ball, although Griffin has done a better job in run support of late. Winfield always plays the run well, so if Griffin continues his tackling it will be tough for Turner. The Vikings are also a MUCH better team at home, so I would temper expectations for Turner - but by no means do you ever bench the guy.

 

[encaitar]

I think the idea that the Vikings secondary is terrible is mostly a myth based on stats that fails to take into account that a lot of teams don't even bother trying to run on them, which isn't necessarily a terrible idea. Sure ATL is more balanced than Arizona but that's not really a big key to beating Minny anyway.

Minnesota's secondary was really bad earlier this year. Sharper and Griffin were playing terrible and Tyrell Johnson at safety just isn't ready for a starter's position.However, in the last 6 or 7 weeks Griffin has been playing the best he's played in his entire career. Winfield is still just as much of a stud as he always was(it's amazing that no one recognizes him as one of the best corners in the league). Now, Madeiu Williams is healthy and starting and if only the had someone to replace Sharper with they'd be a solid secondary.

 

[Native]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

 

[puckalicious]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

If you're telling us you have not 1, but 2 better options I'd like to hear them.

 

[Q-Bert]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

If you're telling us you have not 1, but 2 better options I'd like to hear them.

I have MJD against the Colts and Steven Jackson against the 49ers. I am not sure yet what I will do but certainly don't think it is unreasonable to start either/both of those guys ahead of Turner.

 

[Major]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

If you're telling us you have not 1, but 2 better options I'd like to hear them.

I have Forte and SJax with better matchups on paper. Still debating about who to start in the all important week 16.

 

[Native]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

If you're telling us you have not 1, but 2 better options I'd like to hear them.

I have Forte and SJax with better matchups on paper. Still debating about who to start in the all important week 16.

Deangelo, Westbrook, Pierre Thomas....why is it so difficult to fathom?

 

[BigJim®]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

 

[encaitar]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

 

[puckalicious]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

If you're telling us you have not 1, but 2 better options I'd like to hear them.

I have MJD against the Colts and Steven Jackson against the 49ers. I am not sure yet what I will do but certainly don't think it is unreasonable to start either/both of those guys ahead of Turner.

On paper, the matchup last week of Portis against CIN was supposed to be good too. That didn't work out well for me. Glad I didn't bench Turner for him, I benched CJ3 instead, who also had a great matchup on paper. I can't possibly bench Turner right now for either of these guys.For you maybe it's more difficult, Jackson has been solid lately and MJD has been getting some nice receiving action to go with a handful of carries.

 

[BigJim®]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

I wonder if he can serve at least part of the suspension he is contesting since he will miss time anyway, without jeopardizing his legal claims?

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

I'll be the 2nd to ask for forgiveness....just can't help myself.

 

[hwjchim]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

i second that

 

[puckalicious]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

I wonder if he can serve at least part of the suspension he is contesting since he will miss time anyway, without jeopardizing his legal claims?

This would be the height of hypocrisy. Goodell would laugh him out of the room and tack on an extra game for next season.Start Turner w/o any reservations now.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

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[BigJim®]

Just reported on KFAN in Minneapolis that Pat Williams is out 2-6 weeks woth a fractured scapula.

I wonder if he can serve at least part of the suspension he is contesting since he will miss time anyway, without jeopardizing his legal claims?

This would be the height of hypocrisy. Goodell would laugh him out of the room and tack on an extra game for next season.Start Turner w/o any reservations now.

I'm sorry, can you explain how it is "hypocrisy" to limit his exposure in the event he loses in court and the suspension is upheld? IMHO, this should come down to whether or not other suspensions have been allowed to be served while a player is recovering from injury. If others have done this, Pat should be allowed to do so also.

 

[Beef Ravioli]

Turner is the #1 running back in my main league. He's averaging over 100 yards and a touchdown per game. What else does the guy have to do to convince people he shouldn't be benched?

Some people have great RB depth - especially since so many late round picks are playing well this year. Not a silly question at all.

If you're telling us you have not 1, but 2 better options I'd like to hear them.

I love Turner and have played him 90% of the time this year. The Williams news may cause me to reconsider, but I have been planning on starting SJax and Pierre over him 100% because of the matchups.