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From AOL
04/02/07 01:42 PM
THE NEWS
The Chargers have talked to four teams regarding a possible trade for restricted free agent running back Michael Turner. According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, the Bills, Cowboys, Titans, and Jets have all expressed interest.
Our View
The Bolts placed the highest tender on Turner, but it's unlikely they'll get first- and third-round picks in any proposed trade; in a similar situation, the Falcons wound up with two seconds and a two-spot jump in the first for their RFA, quarterback Matt Schaub. Of the prospective suitors the Bills and Titans have the greatest need for backfield help. The Packers, also widely reported to be in the mix for Turner, have evidently not contacted the Chargers.
This would make my Cowboy pants go crazy!
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Much like a lot of the info surrounding Turner, it doesn't seem to be confirmed one way or another whether the Packers are truly interested.From AOL
04/02/07 01:42 PM
THE NEWS
The Chargers have talked to four teams regarding a possible trade for restricted free agent running back Michael Turner. According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, the Bills, Cowboys, Titans, and Jets have all expressed interest.
Our View
The Bolts placed the highest tender on Turner, but it's unlikely they'll get first- and third-round picks in any proposed trade; in a similar situation, the Falcons wound up with two seconds and a two-spot jump in the first for their RFA, quarterback Matt Schaub. Of the prospective suitors the Bills and Titans have the greatest need for backfield help. The Packers, also widely reported to be in the mix for Turner, have evidently not contacted the Chargers.
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I voted Packers.
Yes.Would you be excited if your team got Turner? I'm a Bills fan and I don't know how I would feel if the Bills traded for Turner. I'm still hoping for Peterson but Lynch will do if we trade down a couple spots. I'm not sure how I would feel if they got Turner. Does everyone here think he's that good?
Yes because he has proved that he can be really good against NFL defenses. There is no may. As you have a Perterson, Lynch may be good at the next level.Remember how good White was supposed to be and Benson and still 3 years later we are all waiting. I would be excited to have Turner on my team.Would you be excited if your team got Turner? I'm a Bills fan and I don't know how I would feel if the Bills traded for Turner. I'm still hoping for Peterson but Lynch will do if we trade down a couple spots. I'm not sure how I would feel if they got Turner. Does everyone here think he's that good?
It would appear so, but I think the real validation comes from the comments among many NFL executives and players (including LT himself). Plus, you don't get tendered at a 1st and 3rd rounder if there's any semblance of doubt about ability.Does everyone here think he's that good?
Chargers restricted free agent Michael Turner will visit the Titans on Monday, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2641
DMN Blog: Cowboys interest in Turner not serious --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Cowboys not seriousThere's a report out there that says the Cowboys are interested in Michael Turner, the Chargers backup running back. San Diego would love to trade Turner for a few picks as Timmy Mac pointed out in an earlier post. But the Cowboys are not serious about acquiring Lewis in a trade or signing him in free agency. If anything, because Wade Phillips used to coach in San Diego, a phone call was probably made as a courtesy.Don't expect Turner to join Dallas.
The problem is they probably won't have the opportunity to make that move since Turner will probably be dealt prior to the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
You seem so sure of this, care to elaborate? I would think the pressure on the Bills and Pack grows as the draft nears and the Texans or some other team make noise about taking Adrian P.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
I think with the report that Turner is visiting the Titans, rumors that his agent is talking to a team about a deal, in addition to all the other recent rumors articles indicates that he'll probably move sooner rather than later. I'm sure SD would rather deal him now as well. A draft day deal would be very tough because not only do they need to agree with the Chargers on a deal, they would also need to have a deal in place with Turner.You seem so sure of this, care to elaborate? I would think the pressure on the Bills and Pack grows as the draft nears and the Texans or some other team make noise about taking Adrian P.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
I don't foresee a trade for Turner until draft day. Reason being that the Packers and Bills both have a shot at RBs in the draft at this point, and they will want to know ALL their options before trading away picks. The Chargers aren't in a ruch to trade Turner, they can keep him if they want. The ball is entirely in the court of the Bills, Packers, Titans. Obviously the Titans have the most pressure to do a trade before the draft. The Bills and Packers have absolutely no impetus to make a trade before the draft.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
It's a poker game though and if they feel that the Titans are making a move for him, one of the two (Bills/GB) will be left with nothing. So do you make a deal for the known or take the risk and potentially end up with nothing. Plus as I mentioned in my prior post, not only do they need to make a deal with SD they also need to strike a deal with Turner and to do both on draft day would not be impossible but difficult to say the least when there are a million other things going on.I don't foresee a trade for Turner until draft day. Reason being that the Packers and Bills both have a shot at RBs in the draft at this point, and they will want to know ALL their options before trading away picks. The Chargers aren't in a ruch to trade Turner, they can keep him if they want. The ball is entirely in the court of the Bills, Packers, Titans. Obviously the Titans have the most pressure to do a trade before the draft. The Bills and Packers have absolutely no impetus to make a trade before the draft.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
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Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.It's a poker game though and if they feel that the Titans are making a move for him, one of the two (Bills/GB) will be left with nothing. So do you make a deal for the known or take the risk and potentially end up with nothing.I don't foresee a trade for Turner until draft day. Reason being that the Packers and Bills both have a shot at RBs in the draft at this point, and they will want to know ALL their options before trading away picks. The Chargers aren't in a ruch to trade Turner, they can keep him if they want. The ball is entirely in the court of the Bills, Packers, Titans. Obviously the Titans have the most pressure to do a trade before the draft. The Bills and Packers have absolutely no impetus to make a trade before the draft.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
That's not true at all... if he is traded, the team just has to be able to fit his current contract under the cap, which should be easy to do. They can work on a long term deal afterward.Plus as I mentioned in my prior post, not only do they need to make a deal with SD they also need to strike a deal with Turner and to do both on draft day would not be impossible but difficult to say the least when there are a million other things going on.
I thought he was a Free Agent and didn't have a contract.Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.It's a poker game though and if they feel that the Titans are making a move for him, one of the two (Bills/GB) will be left with nothing. So do you make a deal for the known or take the risk and potentially end up with nothing.I don't foresee a trade for Turner until draft day. Reason being that the Packers and Bills both have a shot at RBs in the draft at this point, and they will want to know ALL their options before trading away picks. The Chargers aren't in a ruch to trade Turner, they can keep him if they want. The ball is entirely in the court of the Bills, Packers, Titans. Obviously the Titans have the most pressure to do a trade before the draft. The Bills and Packers have absolutely no impetus to make a trade before the draft.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
That's not true at all... if he is traded, the team just has to be able to fit his current contract under the cap, which should be easy to do. They can work on a long term deal afterward.Plus as I mentioned in my prior post, not only do they need to make a deal with SD they also need to strike a deal with Turner and to do both on draft day would not be impossible but difficult to say the least when there are a million other things going on.
No, he is under contract for the amount that SD tendered him. But it is for one year only, so it would benefit the team that acquires him to work out a long term deal, but it doesn't need to be done on draft day, or before the trade.I thought he was a Free Agent and didn't have a contract.Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.It's a poker game though and if they feel that the Titans are making a move for him, one of the two (Bills/GB) will be left with nothing. So do you make a deal for the known or take the risk and potentially end up with nothing.I don't foresee a trade for Turner until draft day. Reason being that the Packers and Bills both have a shot at RBs in the draft at this point, and they will want to know ALL their options before trading away picks. The Chargers aren't in a ruch to trade Turner, they can keep him if they want. The ball is entirely in the court of the Bills, Packers, Titans. Obviously the Titans have the most pressure to do a trade before the draft. The Bills and Packers have absolutely no impetus to make a trade before the draft.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.
That's not true at all... if he is traded, the team just has to be able to fit his current contract under the cap, which should be easy to do. They can work on a long term deal afterward.Plus as I mentioned in my prior post, not only do they need to make a deal with SD they also need to strike a deal with Turner and to do both on draft day would not be impossible but difficult to say the least when there are a million other things going on.
No one is guaranteed anything at this point. It will likely happen that the Bills will get one of the two but crazy things always happen at the draft. Players drop, teams trade, etc.I seriously doubt that GB is happy with their RB's at this point despite the chatter coming from their camp. I certainly wouldn't be happy with Morency and a bag of rocks.Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.It's a poker game though and if they feel that the Titans are making a move for him, one of the two (Bills/GB) will be left with nothing. So do you make a deal for the known or take the risk and potentially end up with nothing.I don't foresee a trade for Turner until draft day. Reason being that the Packers and Bills both have a shot at RBs in the draft at this point, and they will want to know ALL their options before trading away picks. The Chargers aren't in a ruch to trade Turner, they can keep him if they want. The ball is entirely in the court of the Bills, Packers, Titans. Obviously the Titans have the most pressure to do a trade before the draft. The Bills and Packers have absolutely no impetus to make a trade before the draft.A deal for Turner will be done this week...in very short order...well before the draft.If Peterson does not fall to Buffalo, they will swing a deal with SD for Turner,.That's not true at all... if he is traded, the team just has to be able to fit his current contract under the cap, which should be easy to do. They can work on a long term deal afterward.Plus as I mentioned in my prior post, not only do they need to make a deal with SD they also need to strike a deal with Turner and to do both on draft day would not be impossible but difficult to say the least when there are a million other things going on.
What makes you think he doesn't have 1st round talent? I think almost every NFL GM (including the great Marv Levy) agrees that Lynch has 1st round talent. He might not be as awesome as ADP, but then again, who is?Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.Lynch is a first rounder cause of the weakness at RB for this draft , the guy has nt got first round talent . In last years draft Lynch would have gone in the third round so please dont tell me you will take Lynch instead of Turner.
I could still see Peterson going to the Browns. Now I doubt Lynch would then go Houston but he could. Either way I think there's more interest in this draft in the top two backs then most mocks are giving credit for. There is a huge drop off after those two. But all of that is just pure opinion.Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.Lynch is a first rounder cause of the weakness at RB for this draft , the guy has nt got first round talent . In last years draft Lynch would have gone in the third round so please dont tell me you will take Lynch instead of Turner.
There is a huge drop after Peterson .I could still see Peterson going to the Browns. Now I doubt Lynch would then go Houston but he could. Either way I think there's more interest in this draft in the top two backs then most mocks are giving credit for. There is a huge drop off after those two. But all of that is just pure opinion.Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.Lynch is a first rounder cause of the weakness at RB for this draft , the guy has nt got first round talent . In last years draft Lynch would have gone in the third round so please dont tell me you will take Lynch instead of Turner.
I agree that the difference between AD and Lynch is large, but it's less than the difference last year between Bush and Maroney / DW. But the drop after Lynch is larger than the drop from #2 to #3 was last year.There is a huge drop after Peterson .I could still see Peterson going to the Browns. Now I doubt Lynch would then go Houston but he could. Either way I think there's more interest in this draft in the top two backs then most mocks are giving credit for. There is a huge drop off after those two. But all of that is just pure opinion.Well the Bills are guaranteed Peterson or Lynch, the PAckers have a decent shot at Lynch. Plus the Packers are pretty happy withtheir current stock of RBs - even if that seems ludicrous to us, Nether team will overpay just because the Titans are expressing interest in Turner.Lynch is a first rounder cause of the weakness at RB for this draft , the guy has nt got first round talent . In last years draft Lynch would have gone in the third round so please dont tell me you will take Lynch instead of Turner.
I agree with this. I think he has one foot out the door and I think he'll be shipped out before the draft. That said, I have no idea who's going to acquire him. I think Atlanta, Tennessee, Green Bay, Buffalo, and Cleveland look like the most likely destinations. But there's really no way of knowing what these teams are up to. Is Green Bay happy with Morency? Is Tennessee happy with White? Does Buffalo want Lynch? Where will Chris Brown sign? Is Cleveland set on Peterson? There are too many variables to make an accurate prediction.I think with the report that Turner is visiting the Titans, rumors that his agent is talking to a team about a deal, in addition to all the other recent rumors articles indicates that he'll probably move sooner rather than later. I'm sure SD would rather deal him now as well. A draft day deal would be very tough because not only do they need to agree with the Chargers on a deal, they would also need to have a deal in place with Turner.
Assuming that there are 4 possible scenarios: Chargers / Packers / Bills / Titans... and that none of the teams mentioned add RB help in the draft... looking at both dynasty and redraft...I would rank them this way:Not to hijack but since this a hypothetical on where he will end up, how about adding to the speculation how he will do with said teams?
Say he lands in GB - Whats his Dynasty vs keeper vs redraft?
Buffalo - Same thing
I've heard the comparison before but still don't get it. Both backups? Turner>>JordanHas anyone ever seen Michael Turner and Lamont Jordan in the same room?
Turner IMO will be better than Jordan, but Jordan takes way to much flack on this board.Jordan is coming off of a down year, but I still feel Jordan is a quality NFL RB. No one, not even LT could have found much success in Oak last season.Oak was an all around terrible offensive team last season. Jordan was exposed a little bit, but he was not able to use any of his qualities last season b/c there was no where to run. No holes, terrible play calling, just all around bad coaching. To say Jordan is a bad RB at this point is not fair.His first season was above average (low ypc but good stats none the less)Second season was bad but to blame soley Jordan is unfair.Has anyone ever seen Michael Turner and Lamont Jordan in the same room?
Please tell me what you have seen to back that up. The Turner hype on this board is out of hand. I am not saying the guy may not be a decent starting back, but most people here already have in the HOF.I've heard the comparison before but still don't get it. Both backups? Turner>>JordanHas anyone ever seen Michael Turner and Lamont Jordan in the same room?