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***Mid Season RB Expert Dynasty Rankings (1 Viewer)
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The Real Deal
Footballguy
1 LaDainian Tomlinson2 Shaun Alexander3 Deuce McAllister4 Willis McGahee5 Ahman Green6 Clinton Portis7 Jamal Lewis8 Edgerrin James9 Chris Brown10 Priest Holmes11 Fred Taylor12 Onterrio Smith13 Tiki Barber14 Thomas Jones15 Steven Jackson16 Reuben Droughns17 Kevin Jones18 Kevan Barlow19 DeShaun Foster20 Ricky Williams21 Dom Davis22 Corey Dillon23 Rudi Johnson24 Brian Westbrook25 Michael Pittman26 Warrick Dunn27 Duce Staley28 Julius Jones29 CMart30 Michael Bennett31 Lee Suggs32 Derrick Blaylock33 Lamont Jordan34 Anthony Thomas35 Marcel Shipp
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Footballguy
Yes, the stats are perhaps comparable to Hambrick and Canidate, but what Boone22 discussed is right on the mark.I'm a Jets homer, and have watched every Jets game since Jordan entered the league. As Boone22 said, Jordan runs with authority - very good power and speed to get around the corner. He's a ;oad to bring down.
But if one doesn't want to go off the stats or listen to the fans, listen to Mike Mularkey to Curtis Martin, two guys who know a little something about RBs. They (and others) have said that Jordan could start for a number of teams. Oakland has been after Jordan for two years now, and Houston tried to trade for him when they entered the league.
Bottom line is that the league knows this guy can be a player. Whether he can do it over the course of a season is another matter.
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A few things in regards to Lamont Jordan:
Where was all of his authority and moves when CuMart was really struggling early in 2002?? Martin was nursing a injury and Jordan split carries with him 32 for Martin and 24 for Jordan during the 1st 4 games. He did not play better than average during that span of time.
Then in 2003 Curtis Martin did not score a TD until week 13 of the season and only twice on the year. He clearly struggled by his standards for a variety of reasons you could look at but where was Jordan then? That was Jordans worst EOY performance to date when in my opinion a starting quality Rb should at least show some flashes if they are as talented as some seem to think. Most of the free agent to starting Rbs have shown much more than Jordan has under similar circumstances.
As far as the Raiders showing interest in Jordan if they really thought he was that good I imagine Al Davis would have found a way to make him a Raider then. I guess that Jordan is not yet old enough for them.
I think probobly about 50% of the Rbs in the league would be an improvement over what teams like the Raiders and Cardinals have right now so the comment about Jordan being able to start for some teams is kind of moot imo. I didn't say he sucked I said he was average.
I expect Lamont Jordan to be a career backup or part of a RBBC. Just because the Jets used a 2nd round draft pick on him won't change that.
As far as how good CuMart is which has kept Jordan from getting an opportunity you could make a comparison between the Hearst/Barlow situation except for Jordan is not as good as Barlow is. Not that I think Hearst was as good as CuMart has been but it is fairly close really the situations taken into consideration.
I do not think Lamont Jordan is better than Domanic Rhodes for example and he did not get a new deal this year. The difference here though is that Jordan has been a baby about the situation he is in and so prbobly will not be brought back by the Jets.
I thought it was very telling this offseason the way he reacted to the drafting of Derrick Ward who will probobly replace him as the back up Rb in 2005. Right after the draft Jordan blows up and demands a promise to start which of course the Jets would not and have not given him. Why did he react this way? What had changed from the situation before at that time? The only thing I can see is that he recognised his role as a backup and possible future starter was being threatened by the Jets drafting a rookie.
Lamont Jordan full game logs with the few decent games highlighted:
Julius Jones I am really unsure about. I was not overly impressed with him before Parcells drafted him. So most of my hopes for JJ stem totaly from my faith in Parcells. But maybe Bill made a mistake on this one.
Should Lamont Jordan somehow end up in Dallas though my opinion of him would very quickly change.
However besides SA Edge Bennett Henry (possible trades/Cap space free agents) I like ATrain and Rhodes chances to be given a chance to start over Jordan. And this rookie crop of Rbs looks a lot better imo than last years group. Possibly as good or better than the 2001 or 2002 rookie classes.
Simply put, too many other better options.
Where was all of his authority and moves when CuMart was really struggling early in 2002?? Martin was nursing a injury and Jordan split carries with him 32 for Martin and 24 for Jordan during the 1st 4 games. He did not play better than average during that span of time.
Then in 2003 Curtis Martin did not score a TD until week 13 of the season and only twice on the year. He clearly struggled by his standards for a variety of reasons you could look at but where was Jordan then? That was Jordans worst EOY performance to date when in my opinion a starting quality Rb should at least show some flashes if they are as talented as some seem to think. Most of the free agent to starting Rbs have shown much more than Jordan has under similar circumstances.
As far as the Raiders showing interest in Jordan if they really thought he was that good I imagine Al Davis would have found a way to make him a Raider then. I guess that Jordan is not yet old enough for them.
I think probobly about 50% of the Rbs in the league would be an improvement over what teams like the Raiders and Cardinals have right now so the comment about Jordan being able to start for some teams is kind of moot imo. I didn't say he sucked I said he was average.
I expect Lamont Jordan to be a career backup or part of a RBBC. Just because the Jets used a 2nd round draft pick on him won't change that.
As far as how good CuMart is which has kept Jordan from getting an opportunity you could make a comparison between the Hearst/Barlow situation except for Jordan is not as good as Barlow is. Not that I think Hearst was as good as CuMart has been but it is fairly close really the situations taken into consideration.
I do not think Lamont Jordan is better than Domanic Rhodes for example and he did not get a new deal this year. The difference here though is that Jordan has been a baby about the situation he is in and so prbobly will not be brought back by the Jets.
I thought it was very telling this offseason the way he reacted to the drafting of Derrick Ward who will probobly replace him as the back up Rb in 2005. Right after the draft Jordan blows up and demands a promise to start which of course the Jets would not and have not given him. Why did he react this way? What had changed from the situation before at that time? The only thing I can see is that he recognised his role as a backup and possible future starter was being threatened by the Jets drafting a rookie.
Lamont Jordan full game logs with the few decent games highlighted:
This game against Miami who is a demoralised team does not prove Jordans great talent imo. In fact looking at his best performances it is pretty consistently in situations against bad teams allready worn down by Martin. I do not see him performing well when he has had the opportunity and the Jets really needed him which is what a starting Rb has to do.I was refering to Kevin Jones 2nd year which will be 2005. Mooch has added Woody this year. It takes more than one season to rebuild the offensive line. They probobly wont be there yet in 2005 Mooch's 3rd year either because it ushualy takes time for the Oline to play well as a unit. But I think he may have the right personel to work with by then. Enough for Kevin Jones to make some progress at least.
Julius Jones I am really unsure about. I was not overly impressed with him before Parcells drafted him. So most of my hopes for JJ stem totaly from my faith in Parcells. But maybe Bill made a mistake on this one.
Should Lamont Jordan somehow end up in Dallas though my opinion of him would very quickly change.
However besides SA Edge Bennett Henry (possible trades/Cap space free agents) I like ATrain and Rhodes chances to be given a chance to start over Jordan. And this rookie crop of Rbs looks a lot better imo than last years group. Possibly as good or better than the 2001 or 2002 rookie classes.
Simply put, too many other better options.
at the Larry Johnson rankings?
